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FOXNEWSW Hannity July 7, 2024



john, good evening to you. that's exactly what this absolutely horrific keep in mind, rob, elementary school here, this is mostly for the second, third and fourth graders. so that is predominantly seven ,eight and nine year olds. and as you mentioned tonight , we've now learned there are 18 children who were murdered by a gunman at the school tonight as well as one adult. i want to show you one little girl who is missing tonight . this is a photo provided to us by her father. this is 10 year old annabel guadalupe rodriguez. her dad tells us he has lost contact with he is looking for her . he doesn't know where he is. he is desperate to find out if she is okay or not. he provided this photo to texas rangers as well. again, she's a 10 year old at this school. take a listen to what that father told us earlier tonight . i was at work in the including my dad was in school where they were shooting and i'll wait for more details and nobody ever called me back on detail and now come back in town looking for my daughter and i can't find now. now the video you're looking at right now is video that was posted to social media shortly after the shooting took place that alleges to show the 18 year old male shooter salvador ramos entering into the school armed with a rifle. we are told by law enforcement that he is a local here, has family here, apparently shot his grandmother before going over to the school, abandoning his vehicle, going inside and starting to shoot in discriminately. you take a look at some of the scene video today. children leaving the massive scene. the medical examiner is on scene here and what we're being told now by border patrol sources is that it was a bortac, an elite border patrol bortac agent who actually went in and shot and killed this gunman. what i'm told happened is that bortac agents went in with a team of texas law enforcement, was engaged with the shooter who was barricaded. they essentially went in together at different ends and that bortac agent is the one who shot and killed the shooter. i'm told that agent was shot in the leg, injured in the leg excuse me. right now they're trying to figure out if he was shot in the leg or suffered a shrapnel injury in the leg sean. the latest update out here tonight is a grim one . again, 18 children at one adult that believed to be a teacher inside. and i can tell you just a short time ago i spoke with the mayor of all day, mayor john mclaughlin, and he told me two of his staffers had just found out that their children had been killed here in this school and unfortunately so many other parents may get that phone call tonight , a phone call that could potentially change their life forever. so can i have no words when you're talking about kids as young as so sad, so tragic? how does a parent ever recover from this ? our thoughts our prayers are with all of them. thank you , bill . and will circle back and check in with you later in the hour. here now with more on the background of the shooter and potential motives. what we know at this point trace gallagher is with us. trace, what do we know about the shooter? let me just piggyback on top of bill's reporting there, sean, because texas democratic state senator roland guitarra says the shooter, 18 year old salvadori, almost bought two assault rifles on his 18th birthday. but we should note that we have zero confirmation of what type of weapon or weapons were used in the shooting. in fact, texas governor greg abbott says the shooter used a rifle and a handgun. now for clarity. we should note in texas you can buy a long gun when you're 18 years old , but you cannot buy a handgun, at least not from a licensed dealer. you can apparently buy a handgun at 18 years old from a private citizen. in texas, investigators and private groups are now scouring. as you might imagine, it happens in every shooting. they're scouring the shooter's social media footprint and we have also pulled up sites that certainly match the name and the identity of the shooter and they do show pictures of weapons and messages taunting a young woman, actually taunting a few young women. we won't show you those posts because we have not yet confirmed now. we should also note there are reports we are getting word that after the shooter shot his grandmother, which we still have not confirmed that she has died, some believe that she might be still alive, that he apparently got into some kind of car accident and that's when he got out of the car and went in as bill was saying, the associated press, everybody reporting the shooter ran into the school, followed by that tactical border patrol agent who went in with another team shot and killed salvador ramos. ramos was hiding behind a barrier at the time. and finally, we should know this now becomes the second deadliest primary school shooting in u.s. history. remember when adam lanza went and he opened fire in sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut? he killed 20 six and seven year old along with six adults. he also killed his mom before he went to that school shot. all right, trace gallagher, we'll check in with you later in the program. now let's bring in law enforcement, their perspective . joining us now is retired nypd detective pat bronson. pat, good to see you. thank you for being with us. i wish under better circumstances the one thing that you've got to give a lot of credit to once again is law enforcement look like you had law enforcement and border patrol agents that were in the area, tactical teams that they have within their organization and they were able to successfully take this guy out but not after 18 kids. sadly, were were murdered. well, it's it's a horror show. it's an absolute horror show. and i've been on a number of times with you want and i salute them heroes and they do it every single day. but unfortunately there is no complete solution. there's only a series of partial solutions. we can't just throw labor at this site with passion pleas. sean, for an officer in every school in america that's logistically feasible and mathematically impossible, what we need to do is utilize smart technology. that's what's needed to straw man traps. this is something we've discussed in the past like 2018 i chat mantrap a series of interlocking doors at the school entrance that are triggered by a trip wire trip wire can be a gunshot broken glass, a manual switch towards a school employee and it traps the shooter like a rat. and when he's trapped like a rat, we're buying time. the most precious commodity these children can ever get is trying to run to hide, to get away from this madman and his bullies. it's wires, it's mantrap. it's not labor. it's not gun control. sorry to say, you know, you look at this and i've said this we've had way too many of these shootings and one of the solutions i would like to have is i don't care how great the response team is for any law enforcement, even the best response time is not enough. we have retired military. we have retired law enforcement . they can be in every school. they can be outside the perimeter. they could be inside the school and at least you have people there on the ground that are fully trained that would be capable of immediately responding and hopefully preventing death in the process. people seem resistant to that idea. i'm not sure why. well, you know, sean, i'm in the business. we provide secure security for schools on security and security and perhaps all the stuff technology, labor, the fact is mathematically it's impossible. it's a logistical impossibility to 700000 sworn officers. the united states, if every single one took off and were assigned to a school, we still wouldn't cover the at least nine hundred thousand entry doors in the public school system. today i took a look at the math. it's possible the math doesn't work. it's a physical impossible for that help in some way as a layered security solution. and let's be clear, these are only partial solutions because the madness that's ricocheting in the mind of these mad madmen unless they share it with somebody, write it down. memorial's post it or say it, there's no way in the world that law enforcement can interject and mitigate. it's impossible. let's we can read their minds. and by the way, the shooting in buffalo were murdered in that race to the top grocery store that clown was stopped and interviewed and throw in a mental hospital for thirty six hours back in june because he confessed that he wanted to murder a bunch of people 36 hours and he's back out on the street, as it were. we've got to help us get the kids more we all the more we owe the children in america more . we've got to figure this technology. it's labor. it's a series of layers. you know, the president weighed in on a lot of this today and i'd hope when i became president i wouldn't have to do this again. another massacre as a nation we have to ask when in god's name are we going to stand up to the gun lobby when in god's name you will we do what we all need in our gut needs to be done. pat guns don't shoot themselves and you know, there are more instances that nobody ever reports, i guess because it doesn't advance an agenda, a political one , political agenda. but guns are used to save lives every day also. and it's not the issue of the gun. it's the issue of the evil that's in the heart of somebody that does something like this one thousand percent sure the gun genie has been out of the bottle for decades. there were more guns in america than all the bad guys combined could ever use. the last 100 years with minimal maintenance stayed around forever. they were around here forever. it's not about the next one that's being manufactured. it's about a series of other interlocking mitigating factors to help save these children. and i hate to say it and it saddens me to say it, but there's no full solution. there's only ways to minimize the probability of reoccurrence, you know, minimize i wish days like today. i wish we could put politics aside for five seconds and just think of the tragedy and the horror the parents are going through tonight because they lost their children. their lives will never, ever be the same . we send our kids to school. we expect them to be safe and it's really not time in my opinion to be politicizing something like this . and we don't even i we don't even know that every parent's been contacted yet. but anyway, pat bronson, stay with us. we'll check in with you later in the program. now the border patrol assisted with the response to the shooting today and one officer, as we told you at the top of the show, injured by gunfire. and as you heard both fox's bill meluzin and the ap reporting that a border patrol officer fatally shot this suspect. here with more is national border patrol council president brandon judd along with border patrol chief jason owens who is in charge of the del rio sector. jason , we'll start with you. as i understand within the department you have to elite force that was actually dispatched because of the location which happened to be right near the schools. what happened today? well, first off, john, it's good to talk to you and thanks for having me. so yes, the sectors along the southwest border have detachments from our special operations group, one of the teams is called the border patrol tactical unit, or bortac. they were thankfully close to the close to the scene are able to respond and played a critical role in actually neutralizing the threat inside the school. yeah, and brandon, bringing you in here, we talk about this again. you know, the border patrol have had such a difficult job. one of the things with this record of illegal immigration crush that you guys have been working under every single day now we've got a record in april again, two hundred thirty five thousand illegal immigrants and encounters at the border. we have more drugs crossing that border than before. resources are really thin in that sense. it sounds like we were a little bit lucky that your guys were in position, that they were able to help today. perhaps many lives were saved because of it. >> yeah, undoubtedly were lives that were saved because we had the resources that were available. look, i first of all, my heart goes out to the families of lost children. this is horrible. this is a horrible tragedy that is being politicized rather than looking at what we can actually do. that is right. we're trying to blame we're trying to to blame the gun lobby. we're trying to blame gun control. we're trying to blame everything except for what needs to be blamed. we have to look at what needs to be done to protect these children. and thankfully i'm so grateful for my fellow border patrol agents. i'm grateful that they're ready to respond at a moment's notice ,that they're ready to go in and that they've received the training that is necessary to actually protect these children. and that's what they did today. they were they were heroes and one of our agents was in fact injured in the process of trying to save as many children as he could. i'm grateful for for my fellow corporal. all right, gentlemen, thank you and thank all your fellow officers for all that they do every day. brandon, thank you . and chief jason jason owens, thank you as well. here now with more reaction, the host of unfiltered, dan bongino, along with the co-host of the five geraldo rivera. i'll say this to both of you up front. you're both dear friends. under no circumstances do i want to politicize any this tonight. families may not even know the status of their own children at this hour and yet we have this race even by the president to politicize it. i just find so offensive. but at the end of the day, we have to figure out a way to keep kids safe in school. dan bongino, i've been advocating for years people retired military, retired law enforcement outside the perimeter of every school in the country they can donate their time. they can offer them tax breaks, no income tax state, no income tax federally 10 hours a week and we could have every school in america covered people around the perimeter, people in the halls, first responders there. we don't have to worry about police response times. that to me seems like a no brainer. nobody seems to find that idea appealing. i don't know any other way to keep kids safe though then. and metal detectors by it would be a lot less than what we're giving ukraine with the 40 billion we're sending over there. well, a couple of things. first, it's too late to not politicize it. i respect where you're coming from, but it's not you do. and it john, i mean the president of the united states just came out and what could have been a great healing moment for all of us to be able to mourn together. i mean, he is the president of the united states decided to attack the gun lobby. i wasn't where the gun lobby was involved in the shootings. were you so again, he's the president of united states. and in a moment where he could have been a great healer and unifier, he chose that moment to start screaming at americans and the gun lobby who had nothing to do with the irish we coming from. but those days are over . sean, cutesie time with these people is over . they don't care. now on your second point, you know this is what i did for a living. you know, operational security and physical security on locations and buildings was a big component of it. pat was a great guess. he bred the mantrap is a terrific idea because you can't get into the second door in the mantrap unless the first doors close and they have to operate the second door. meaning if you have a gun they're just going to trap you between the two doors and you're not going go anywhere. but i do disagree with them that we don't have the personnel he's accurate if you think of it in terms of active police officers in the united states. yes, we can't take one now and put one at every single school everywhere, every door all the time. but what you're thinking, i think you're more correct is we should expand that footprint. we have a number of retired law enforcement who have the skills who may not be able to engage pursuits but are perfectly capable of securing, say, two or three acre school somewhere. so i think we have to start to think outside the box. the skills are there. the human capital is there. we can do it. sean, we just got know what , 20 , 30 billion dollars school funding probably more than that for the covid thing. you know, we can't go out and take care of some of these schools with security. come on . we can do better. rather, i would think this might be an area of agreement all three of us can have and that is you have all of these people trained retired police, retired military, you know these people well. and you know what ? if they donated ten , fifteen hours a week the local school district and what if we said, okay, if you do that , we'll give you a break on your income taxes, you don't have to pay it and you don't have to pay state and local taxes either. >> it wouldn't even cost us a penny in the end. you know, sean, i obviously agree with you about school security. i always have as the father of five the grandfather of five . this absolutely makes me sick to my stomach. i beg those families to accept our condolences. the slaughter has been something that will live with all of us . it is absolutely horrible when you think of those little babies i covered sandy hook, you know, it is that again, it's these little children the most vulnerable innocent beings on earth being slaughtered. you know, the only place you, dan and i diverge is it is not to me irrelevant that in the last ten days thirty people have been killed by two eighteen year olds with assault weapons. how can you buy an assault weapon on your 18th birthday when you cannot buy a beer? it does not make any sense. i've spoken with president trump about this . why not have a juvenile assault weapons ban? why can't the nra get behind if you can't buy a beer, you can't buy an assault weapon? why is that un-american? how does that violate you know what the problem with i think the argument is and i really my thoughts tonight are really with these families. but i'll answer your question and i will tell you one of the it's predicated on a false notion that evil people with evil intent you have to be evil to perpetrate a crime and murder an innocent child. and the problem is by the very nature of somebody being that evil, they're going they're not going to obey. they're not going to listen to any laws because that is coming from their heart. and if your heart drives you to do something like this , it doesn't matter what's legal or not legal in their world. it matters in your world. i pay all my taxes pays all it is. it's a matter of fact i usually overpack just to be sure. but the reality in this case you're asking people that don't have a heart and soul or conscience to obey a law they're not going to obey. two quick points. one , we have to protect our children with the same vigor that we protect the money in our banks. what's worth more, the money or the children you're in ? why can't we on if we can protect the money and we ran the school with law enforcement tie a cop, an old retired cop, but somebody military. yes. are you armed, armed to go? absolutely. absolutely. because i just really don't her all the way, way, way. i want to respond to your first point. you asked a question. i think i deserve an answer there. you know, over a decade law enforcement i arrested a lot of people who had illegal guns and you know, they love your idea for gun laws and new gun laws. you know why? because nobody gives you can i answer the question why some of these are you having the two children with assault weapons on their first gun? it's so hard to come up with you because you go ahead. i'm sorry i didn't interrupt you, man. okay, listen, le

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