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holy god and these days of uncertainty and change we turn to you who are the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. regardless of the circumstance, lord, you are not just present but provisioning supplying us all that we need. >> harris: and while the c house reconvenes taking a moment for prayer which is very necessary especially now with so much chaos. i want to bring in bret baier. brett, when you watch this i can't make a joke about it i have a book about faith. in this situation it's more than embarrassing, it's broken. >> bret: it is broken. it does not seem to be resolving anytime soon. a lot of talk about adjournment, but if they bring forward that effort to adjourn or gather their forces and count the votes behind the scenes, they may not have the votes for it. democrats would and can block it with a few votes and no votes against mccarthy, a few of them like representative ralph norman have already said we need to vote. we are not going to vote to adjourn. it is sticky either way. you don't want to be embarrassed by bringing up a motion to adjourn and not have the votes for that either. the bottom line is kevin out.rthy is going to stick it he will contino fight it he ds have 203 votes. e dimini but so r there is notd rnative. to jason's point, yes, it does get problematic after a while. after the opening in the swearing's end of elect and representatives, then they had a break until january 23rd. so it could take a while. it's not going to interrupt the legislating. >> harris: that was my big question. >> bret: it could interrupt the setting up of the committees that happens usually during that time. after they are sworn in. >> jason: and brett, i want to add onto that we november 9th becausesmg g be later theygathered togetc going to have the steering committee get together and figure out who will be chairman. from then what committee assignments, then go higher the staff, you don't know what committee you are on so you can hire staff. the delay is actually much longer, but you are right. in terms of actually passing legislation, probably the end of january even in the best-case scenario. >> harris: let's talk about nancy pelosi for a second. we are six votes shy if they can get the six votes. can you imagine a situation where hakeem jeffries gets the six votes from republicans he needs and becomes the deck democratic house speaker over majority of a republican house? >> jason: i can't imagine a scenario that the republicans would go toward democrats. i think that that would be, remember all of these people in that room right there are up for reelection in two years. it will be tough to go back to her republican district and say i voted for hakeem jeffries to be speaker of the house. i also think there is a possibility because of all of the logistics and how much everyone is running around with her head cut off that someone could vote present thinking they are doing the right thing, and if there are too many votes present the numbers shrink. >> harris: how many could he have? >> jason: 19 or 20, no votes for kevin mccarthy, right? if 15 of those vote present thinking they were going to be helping kevin mccarthy, hakeem jeffries could end up with enough votes if all the democrats show up. >> harris: that's interesting. >> jason: listen, they have to be careful. it's on a knife's edge here. there's a lot of chaos and a lot of under the tent it's really hitting each other. it's not done yet. this will last for a little >> emily: and harris matt gaetz ay said he esy doesn' if i effries becomes speaker anthe ques from "the wet journal" l board is how does that ople of florida you are serv l of the use questions you important toee the reactio current members and to this anhow itre reacting es constituents ultimate >> harris: kenne >> kennedy: i wa to hear on. u know a lot of these people beeyave been in ress a while. what does it take for ght now has voted he has said he doe want to be speaker. what happens if that dynamic shifts? >> jason: for the 20 -- mccarthy? yes. that's kevin mccarthy. go ahead, jason. he is arriving. >> jason: the problem for the 20 is they supported and endorsed jim jordan, jim says he doesn't want to run, they endorse largely donald trump, donald trump says vote for kevin mccarthy. that puts them in a predicament. the underlying problem here is those 20 fundamentally at their core i mean to the heart of the heart do not trust kevin mccarthy. i say what those 20 need to do is if they want to be obstructing what is moving forward then tell us who you are actually for? >> kennedy: what jim jordan stuff stood up and said i had and i to think about it i can do a much better job i'm a fighter i will fight for the party. i will fight to reduce the size of government here. >> jason: but the 200 would say i don't want to do that. this system is broken perry we know more about how you elect to miss america than we do the next speaker of the house. this has been playing out since november 9th. [laughter] ninth. [laughter] >> kennedy: you are absolutely right. >> harris: i have a lot of interest in this. so we saw kevin mccarthy walk in. and jackie, i saw your eyes get big. because this is the moment, right? he will find out if he lost more votes while people were eating free pizza. >> jackie: it's really interesting to watch this play out. i'm wondering if an adjournment wouldn't be a good idea for everyone to take a deep breath and continue to have conversations instead of having it play out on this public stage. what i tend to do being from a business background is look at with the stock market is doing. markets are a big today. down slightly a little yesterday, and what i find interesting today is the markets like gridlock, right? they like nothing happening on washington. so even if there is chaos on the floor of the house, that is what they are focused on. we having a great 2023 with respect to the economy to the wall street perspective, no more spending is what they want to see at this point. you won't see spending as long as you see this. >> harris: and with no one sworn in. >> kennedy: maybe that's true but that's only way republican get real change here we talked about yesterday but there's so much status quo with democrats, they think they are, pushing sally by chanting hakeem, hakeem but their party isn't going to change. there is no introspection. there is no process that forces some of these people to go yes, we have been moving in the wrong direction and may be with a couple of days of chicken they will do something meaningful which voters have not been able to accomplish. >> harris: i want to bring bret baier back in, once i second, emily. bret bring us back with the politics we have interviewed him and he said things that make you think he is pretty radical calling a former president the grand wizard of the kkk. he has had some moments periods but what is politics? >> bret: well, he portrays himself as centrist but you are right he has some left views that are very public including questioning the election of donald trump. but he says he is going to try to work across the aisle. there is no indication that has really happened. however, hakeem jeffries right now would like for this continue on. he would like this to keep going because every day this happens they are raising money for democrats. they are saying we are all united, republicans are divided. they are living off of what they consider a very successful midterm, even though they lost seats. they did better than was predicted. then was productive going in. hakeem jeffries is positioning himself to be speaker, maybe not this time but in another house. i want to answer jackie one quick thing. if you want, the markets want stagnation or blockage, gridlock. they are likely going to have. it could be really nice market time because if you look at how this is all being handled, imagine governing with that slim majority. and you have all these folks say we are not like that and we are moving forward. >> jackie: it's really interesting because we think we are setting up to have a rough year economically and again i separate the markets from the underlying fundamentals of the economy, bret. but i think you know i think wall street is looking at this and finally saying it has gotten what it wanted here because we have seen trillions of dollars in spending continue to pass. spending some may argue we haven't necessarily needed. this was a change wall street is looking for. wall street isn't saying we want answers to questions of the origins of covid or the withdrawal of afghanistan or hunter biden's laptop or all of those investigations the american people care about. they are looking at policy at this point. i find it very interesting the way the big money moves. >> emily: bret, diwali, tell mike kennedy's question, this is emily, is this right strategy however on the part, will this t their future careers? what blight will this have if any is the longer this goes and the more their goals are not achieved is this hurting them ultimately in the long run? >> bret: two things, one is if kevin mccarthy eventually succeeds they are hurting their careers. what committee assignments they get or don't get. also if this drags out and becomes a stain on republicans, many are saying is already there but i think you have some time to iron this out months from now people will not say we spent two days figuring out a speaker. they may go back to the districts and say hey, we want the border. we want to stop fentanyl, we want to stop crime, will want to do with inflation. we don't want to play these games in washington. that is a tougher thing to say. you can say you don't like kevin mccarthy. you don't trust kevin mccarthy. but unless you have an alternative that can get all the votes, you have nothing. >> harris: kennedy do you want to? >> kennedy: no. i think bret is absolutely right. but i think there is more going on here than just going along with the status quo which is what kevin mccarthy represents to a lot of these congress members. he is someone who said he earned the speakership, they don't feel the same way. how do you bridge the chasm within the republican party? nancy pelosi, you know, love her or hate her she was actually able to wrangle her caucus. will kevin mccarthy be able to do the same thing? with the same kind of schism? >> bret: former president trump is hardly an established with figure and when he comes out and endorses mccarthy and says we need to move this forward and is getting nominated once again putting his name back and that is what's happening with congressman gallagher on the floor. so former president trump putting out that statement essentially saying you need to get this done. if you don't like him, afterwards you now have negotiated away -- >> harris: bret i will jump in one second, excuse me. obviously with the congressman elect, gallagher, nominating kevin mccarthy now he'll make his pitch. let's watch and listen. >> we are to serve this country in congress. how lucky we all are, democrats and republicans, to be citizens of the greatest country in the history of the world. [cheers and applause] he is definitely out of order, madame clerk. i say that because i know last night people are frustrated they want to go to parties and take pictures with their families. honestly we find ourselves here in the chamber for the second day and we know we've got work to do, but in some ways there is no place i would rather be with the possible exception of lambeau field on sunday, no place i would rather be. but maybe with the excitement some of you hadn't had an opportunity to check what is happening online. let me fill you in or what's happening on twitter with the press and what they are writing about. in some ways, they are salivating. there are lead lines about the chaos this and that, yesterday our colleagues on the other side of the aisle were tweeting bags of popcorn they had out, they love it. the schadenfreude is palpable. but i think, my friends come on the democratic side misunderstand what is happening here. sure, it looks messy. but democracy is messy! democracy is messy! by design. by design. and that is a feature not a bug of our system. we ere it all out in the open for the american people to see because i think at the end of the day the president is not in charge. the supreme court is not in charge. the speaker of the house is not even in charge. the american people are in charge. [cheers and applause] i'm proud to be part of a party that welcomes debate and invites different views that isn't afraid of that. now listen to some my colleagues yesterday, mr. roy from texas my good friend, he knows i respect his views. i have been his partner and anti-crusades, per regular crusades, i know his intentions are pure, i know a lot of people are frustrated with the way congress works, but and chip, you know i believe that in my bones. nobody has done more to lay out a plan for how we restore the basic functioning of this institution then kevin mccarthy. nobody. [applause] nobody has done that. now you may not have gotten everything you wanted. there are things i want that i know are just not possible to get done in this congress. mr. mccarthy has gone above and beyond in terms of listening to people with concerns and laying out a plan for how we restore the basic functioning of the house of representatives. furthermore, i believe no one has done more to bring us into the majority then kevin mccarthy. [applause] listen, i wish we had a bigger majority, right? i wish we could do everything over the next two years but the american people gave us an opportunity. they gave us republicans, an opportunity to inject some basic common sense into the federal government. to pull the emergency brake on a lot of the crazy we have seen in the last few years. they are asking us to do a job, and nobody has laid out a plan, proactive policy agenda, for the direction we want to take this country in more detail then kevin mccarthy. you all had an opportunity. to provide input. and the irony of this current moment and this debate we are having is on the big stuff we all agree, right? we want to secure the border. we don't want the executive branch to do everything through a pen and a phone. we want to work with our democratic colleagues when it comes to standing up to our enemies abroad. right? there are basic things we know we need to do. it is time to get to work. [applause] so, you may tweet more popcorn and moji's i get it. you may write your headlines, but what i see right now is energy. a tremendous amount of energy in this republican caucus who want to do the work of the people. mr. mccarthy is not asking you to endorse business as usual in the house. he has laid out a plan to renew the house of representatives and once again make it an institution that we can credibly look ourselves in the mirror and say "we are working in the people's house" for that many other reasons, i nominate kevin mccarthy for speaker of the house. [cheers and applause] >> what purpose does a gentleman from california rise? >> madame clerk iritis to nominate hakeem jeffries as speaker of this house. >> nar>> the gentleman is recog. >> madame clerk make no mistake there is no frustration on our side. we are focused on serving the american people. in order to do that, we have to unite behind a speaker. democrats are united behind a speaker who prioritizes putting better paying jobs in industries of the future. growing up in a working-class family he knows a good paying job and a good education are key to economic mobility. he knows that to tackle the afford ability crisis in this country we need to make sure that everybody gets paid enough to live and work in any zip code. and he knows about creating these jobs we can once again make it in america. madame clerk, as chair of the democratic caucus i am directed by that boat of the caucus to present for election to the 118 congress the honorable hakeem jeffries were presented f elect for the state of new york for the office of speaker. [cheers and applause] [chanting "hakim"] >> for what purpose does the government from texas rise? >> i seek to place nomination for speaker. >> joma and is recognized. >> yesterday my stomach first vote for speaker of the house was byron donalds perry today i am rising to nominate byron donalds for speaker of the house of representatives. [cheers and applause] byron is a dear friend. a solid conservative. but most importantly, a family man who loves dearly his wife, erica, his three children, has a proven track record as a businessman, public service in the florida legislature, and now is a member of the united states congress. now, here we are in for the first time in history, there have been two black americans placed into the nomination for speaker of the house. [applause]