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BBC Wales Investigates

he referred to one of the drills in one of the sessions as the c—word drill, you know, in front of other senior members of the team. and that it was ok. we had 17—, 18—year—olds there. and they used the c—word in front of them? and referred to the drill as the c—word. charlotte says she reported her concerns to bosses. we understand one of those bosses didn't recall that conversation. the man in question left the wru. she says she was told the complaint couldn't be investigated further. marc says he also reported incidents elsewhere. he says that, last march, he witnessed colleagues making jokes about child sexual abuse during a staff team—building event. very early on in that day, somebody on a bus journey to the activity referenced somebody was, um, from a private school.

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BBC Wales Investigates

at the time. you know, i didn't go to hr on it. two reasons, i think. 0ne, because... i — just total apathy to, one, it being listened to, dealt with or, you know, and... and the fear of repercussion, you know, to me and others, i suppose, around, you know, just... life was already tough enough. but she did eventually write to the wru, detailing that allegation and others as part of a formal grievance. the wru hired a lawyer to look into her allegations, and charlotte gave them a list of potential witnesses to corroborate what she was saying. but we've discovered

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BBC Wales Investigates

0n the balance of what was the most important at that time — my family and our livelihood versus trying to fix an organisation i'd left — i chose my family and my livelihood. at the time, she says the wru argued she'd left it too late to bring a claim, and that she had no grounds for one. it told us her case was investigated and proper procedures were followed. unless you are a woman, and — excuse the expression — but with balls and deep pockets, how on earth do you take on somebody like the wru and stand up to them without there being financial detriment, reputational detriment? there has to be an independent body set up to look at complaints. i would like to see

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BBC Wales Investigates

know their place in the kitchen and stick to the ironing, and that some board members felt it unfair to take too many free tickets away from him as a sanction. she also warned that when it came to equality, diversity and inclusion, they were sitting on a ticking time bomb. that doesn't surprise me. i find it abhorrent that you cannot put your hands up and say what you found that was so awful and tell people what you are doing to put it right. the wru insist they have implemented change as a result of the review. it didn't comment on amanda blanc�*s concerns, but it did strongly refute any suggestion that the women's game has been held back by the issues described and remains committed

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BBC Wales Investigates

we show the women's game because, you know, they're going to detract from us as a brand. it was, you know, those types of things. and who was it coming out with this? was itjuniorfigures or were these senior figures within the organisation? seniorfigures and juniorfigures. senior figures...and it was... it's the lack of the game being taken seriously. i remember charlotte coming into the organisation and, as guilty as it makes me feel, i remember looking at her, thinking, _ "woman, blonde and working in women's rugby." that made me feel, "you're going to be the next target." we've spoken to another former employee about her time at the wru. she's asked us not to identify her. an actor tells her story. being from a rugby family and a rugby background, the concept of working for the wru had always been a bit of a dream. to the outside, the wru was this bright, shiny organisation.

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BBC Wales Investigates

sports organisations. what were people telling you as you're about to... mm. ..take this step and join the wru? mm. "don't." "are you sure?" i'd heard whispers around some of the challenges the young female team within the women's programme had faced. just feeling quite ridiculed, undervalued. misogyny, sexism. it was... everything was always an additional hurdle. when she started herjob, she says she soon began to see it for herself. there was an attitude that it was ok to make derogatory comments to, you know, to make sexist/sexual comments around women, or about women, within groups of the organisation. it was always sort of palmed off as banter, but i think again, there's...there's a line. that line got crossed for me, personally, and i know for others.

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BBC Wales Investigates

that a number of them were not contacted and the man she accused of saying he wanted to rape her in his hotel room wasn't interviewed as part of the grievance inquiry. he still works for the welsh rugby union. the manager who charlotte said witnessed the incident told the inquiry though he remembered the man accused saying that she could visit him in his hotel room, he couldn't recall the word "rape" being used. disbelief. because it's such a strong word, you know? evokes such a strong reaction, doesn't it, to most people? so, i think — i think i'm surprised if he can't recall that word being used. we've been told that a witness, identified by charlotte to the wru, was willing to make a statement, confirming that they'd seen and heard the man make the rape comments, but they were

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BBC Wales Investigates

the welsh government take the bull by the horns and develop a system that is robust enough to hold sporting governing bodies to account. um... will that happen? i don't know. the mp wants a senedd inquiry into the wru, on a par with yorkshire cricket. she's also written to the wru's most famous patron about what women have told her. the prince of wales needs to know that this is a real issue. the well—being and mental health of people that have worked at the wru is a concern, and it should be a concern for him. the wru said how sad it was to hear how individuals in this programme felt, and said it will continue to work with staff to ensure they feel valued and listened to.

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BBC Wales Investigates

wru is always keen to push its commitment to the women's game. we're committed to making the best professional programme in the world. over the last 12 months, we've seen some real progress| in the women's game in wales. we've seen the first i professional contracts, we've seen _ the professional staff, the support staff bolstered. while progress was being made, some in the organisation were still worried about the culture in parts of the wru. it's not a culture that likes to be challenged. marc roberts has just quit the wru after 20 years of helping to develop the men's and women's game in north wales. when i first started and i thoroughly enjoyed the experience, i think, unfortunately, the last five or six years, the culture has got worse.

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BBC Wales Investigates

some positive change. but she quit after four years, telling the wru she was sick of being exposed to bullying, sexism and sexual harassment at work. and that's really sad. um... the women's game had long struggled for crowds and credibility. and, in 2018, things had hit rock bottom. commentator: well, they beatl wales here at twickenham, 52-0. after 20 years working in sport, charlotte's job was to get more women and girls playing and to develop a strategy for the future. i was working as a consultant, research and insight, particularly for

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