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stations sleeping for many days, not just the 72 hours that they are allotted as the maximum time they're supposed to stay in these border control facilities. why are they all there? because the president of the united states has instituted a policy on the border called metering where people who want to seek asylum are made to wait. they are made to wait on bridges. many of them are sent back into mexico. we heard stories of people dying in the rio grande. the reason they are in there is not because of horrible democrat laws like the president likes to talk about over and over again. it's because of the policies that exacerbate an already tenuous situation on the border put forward by the trump administration. >> hans, there was quite a bit of news on a multitude of other
there's a lot of the government trying to verify identities. you have privately run detention facilities and basically prison, like the one behind me with thousands of children in it. you have kids with point of contact. heidi explained through those points of contact they are not being processed out quickly and to echo what jacob is saying, there is zero oversight. we can't take cameras in, not allowed access to these facilities and can't accurately report what we believe to be truly horrendous conditions. to heidi's talk about metering, you're talking about returning people to humanitarian conditions we're not clear on. the situation is very bad, getting worse, talking about thousands of people being released, en masse, from what are basically detention facility is in the u.s. into mexico, into a system also not equipped to handle it. on this end, the humanitarian
of our foreign policy in a significantly diminished the national security of this country. >> i want to talk about some domestic issues. your fellow candidate julian castro immigration plan calls for repeal of a law that makes it a crime to enter the united states illegally. do you agree with that? should that law be repealed? >> i don't know if it should be repealed but we should acknowledge most of those arriving at the border now, especially from central america, are at the most desperate and vulnerable moment. they pose no threat or harm to this country. and we proposed a family case management program so that they are not held in detention, at a fraction of the cost and at an improved rate of showing for the court date or their appointments with i.c.e. officials. we help them to follow our own laws and we tweet them like the human beings they are. so policies of caging kids or separating families or metering
laws and we treat them like the human beings they are. so policies of caging kids or separating families or metering where we have migrants and asylum seekers wait in mexico where they are prey to criminals and to those who would take advantage of the most vulnerable, that cannot be this country. we have to live our values and ensure that our laws reflect our reality and our true interest in this country. >> but just to get a straight answer on it, it sounds to me like you think that the law that makes it a crime to be in this country illegally, it sounds like you think that that should stay the law? >> i think what i'm saying is that in the vast majority of cases, there is no need to incarcerate or to detain migrant families and especially children. but if somebody is attempting to smuggle human beings into the united states, if they are attempting to cross illegal drugs into this country, i want to make sure that we have the legal mechanism necessary to hold them accountable and to
of domestic violence say that is not the way to go and that mexico is not set up to safely deal with these people. and crime against immigrants is dramatically increased this year as more and more people have waited in northern mexico to come into the united states. and we understand that there was the largest encounter of undocumented immigrants yesterday morning early in el paso, they came across,off 1, o 1,000 who traveled together to cross illegally. we know from sources that the president might use that in his speech to say that this a reason for these dramatic steps. but advocates say the reason is because people are finding safety in numbers because of the violence i spoke about. and also because it is becoming increasingly hard to come here legally because of policies called metering and other policies that turn asylum
continue to happen. it's crazy. >> laura: joe, i'm going to go to you here, because newsom was on another network tonight, the governor of california, and he said this. >> crisis, not just manufactured in the context of the larger issue, but is substantively manufactured with intentionality by the trump administration, that's metering those crossings, doing nothing to help support these people and actually creating the conditions that they are condemning. this is a farce. it's political theater, and the fact is, california is not going to play part of that. >> laura: okay, joe, so it's manufactured, that by the end of this year, we'll have about 800,000 people who have crossed our border in between ports of entry, gaming the system, jumping ahead in line of other people waiting patiently to apply legally, claiming asylum,
to you here, because newsom was on another network tonight, the governor of california, and he said this. >> crisis, not just manufactured in the context of the larger issue, but is substantivelyhe manufactured with intentionality by thesu trump administration, that's metering those crossings, doing nothing to help support these people and actually creating the conditions that they are condemning. this is a farce. it's political theater, and the fact is, california is not going to play part of that. >> laura: okay, joe, so it's manufactured, that by the end of this year, we'll have about 800,000 people who have crossed our border in between ports of entry, gaming the system, jumping ahead in line of other people waiting patiently to apply legally, claiming asylum, being released into the system, maybe an ankle bracelet slapped n but won't show up, can you
perspective. just one single family not counted. let's talk about customs and border protections. they released the numbers with 1,076 crossing the border without authorization last month in february. this is the highest number in 12 years. can the border security handle this influx? >> what an irony, alex. remember president trump campaigned on i'm going to solve the undocumented immigration problem and lower the numbers. we are seeing a record high number. this has to do with the fact that these folks are getting frustrated. they cannot seek asylum at port of entry because of the metering president trump put in place. they are so desperate and frustrated. they are trying to go at it through crossing between ports of entry which is dangerous. they are turning themselves in to border patrol. we are seeing similar numbers to
needed. one of the first things he said were judges. just an indication it's not just the wall here. >> thanks for being with me. i want to turn to msnbc correspondent 400 mules southeast of me. she's across the border from the texas town of eagle pass. thanks for being with me. >> reporter: good evening, chris. the trump administration has made it more diffdprlt migrants to be able to apply for asylum at the u.s. border. instead the administration reached an agreement with mexico to keep the asylum seekers south of the border. a policy known as metering. so we travelled to the sister cities so close you could see them on the other side and the president's policy and its effect on everyone we spoke to was loud and clear. ♪
>> reporter: go ahead. >> i just wanted to ask. the shelter scene you showed, basically it seems whether it's a deal that's been struck for the mexican government to essentially warehouse people. those folks are essentially in a stateless limbo, is that right? >> reporter:many of the families told me they feel like they're in prison, crus rr. and that is what is new. metering is not new but this is from mexico. keeping these families, these mothers behind this fence here. i mean look at where i'm standing now. this is new and it is a direct response to what is happening on the other side thoorks fact that cdp can only take 12 to 20 people today and we're talking almost 2,000 whose main purpose was to turn themselves in to seek asylum.