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the clinton administration, back to the early bush administration, 2002 when they started to reverse theirements work, going through the obama administration. the north has provoked with its tests but has not really been willing to deal. that's what's significant. but there is a script here, right? so the south has been pushing for closer ties, china has always been the key player here. china can turn the lights on and off here. and they don't want a flood of -- they don't want a failed regime there because of what it would mean in terms of korean refuge refugees. >> china has somewhat of a laborious situation and has a border issue. they are not as hard line as the u.s. is obviously and they don't want a u.s.-backed unified regime in government in korea. >> that's right. there's somewhat of a naked preference there as well. then you also have to look at,
>> i don't know. the leader of the 9/11 attacks had a degree from germany. if you're an isis terrorist, the last thing you do is pose as a syrian ref fees, they get the most attention of any group. two years of extreme vetting for refuge refugees. i'm an ago nnostic about this program, i don't know about the vetting. i presume there is some vetting. does it need to be more intense? maybe. the fact is citizens coming from certain companies spend years trying to get in. if you're coming from afghanistan you're not going to see your family for four years while your visa is processed. there's a pretty robust program in place already. >> the president says more extreme vetting before someone could come into the united states would that stop a terror
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refuge refugees, most living in tent settlements. tom price with the congressional budget office now with the senate health bill in an interview with "meet the press." >> the analysis suggests the for older americans with preexisting conditions, it's going to go up. there's not a single analysis that says otherwise. >> that's because the congressional budget office and all of these analysis don't look at the entire plans. if you look at it in its totality, we'll bring down premiums, increase coverage, choices and i believe we'll increase the eququalify of care provide nd the nation. >> still reflecting on the senate health care bill, ten year, 22 million fewer people will have health insurance, but as you just saw, critics do not think you should pay too much attention to the cbo scoring
i think you're setting up an interesting new argument inside catholicism where trump really challenges some of the conservative pitch shops who don't agree with a lot of this anti-immigrant, anti-refugee politics. >> you know, father martin, i'm old enough to remember when the little sisters of the poor went to court against the obama administration's contraception mandate and you had what appeared to be a friction between the obama administration and the church over things like abortion, does immigration wind up pulling the politics, if you will, in the other direction? because we know that, you know, shielding the immigrants are a big part of the catholic teaching? on topics like migrants and refuge refugees, the church has been in the forefront. catholic relief services, jesuit
so. why would we act like that in modern times in a place like iraq. >> gloria, i want to talk about refuge refugees. >> i wanted to follow up on dana a little bit. it's the same kind of thinking when you talk about torture. because this is not something this country does. it's something that has been debated vociferously since 9/11, and laws have been passed about it. and we now know it is against our laws to torture. and, yet, donald trump raises it again and says i'm going to pay attention to general mattis and i'm going to pay attention to mike pompeo, my new cia director, but i actually believe we should do it. when, in fact, as president of the united states he needs to acknowledge that this country has had a long debate about it, and it is not what we do.
refugee program needs to be stopped temporarily. we're not sure if the vetting process is good enough for these refuge refuge refugees, these poor people who have no home and need help desperately. >> what's interesting, it's not rn , when you say the process is broken, there was a process, there was a robust process. it wasn't like going to the post office and buying a postage stamp and the fact it failed raises questions on how you keep people like this out. >> aren't you saying that the visa, are you saying something might be in line with donald trump's policy? >> i'm not saying we should ban all muslims but i think this all question has to be looked at. >> when she did her interview she had no red flags raised. >> she knew everything about
legal authority to do that but they are doing that anyway, and it was pretty uniformly republican governors that came out today to shut the door on refuge refugees, and the exception is in new hampshire. the u.s. government has only agreed to take in a total of 10,000 refugees and that's a fraction of those leaving that country and a smaller portion that many of our allies, including western europe, and all of these states said, no, no, you are not coming here. you have cut with the refugee tide closer than anybody. how do you understand this, all of these other countries are taking in more refugees than the u.s. is anyway? >> you mentioned the u.s. government has agreed to take in
deter especially refugees who fled horrific conflict in neighboring syria and iraq. >> reporter: i'm atika shubert at munich train station. this is the scene as thousands arrive here to germany. this is the preferred destination for so many refugees. at this reception center you have medical screening with doctors and nurses. people are applauding. that's the kind of warm welcome to people are receiving. germany has said it would put aside $6 billion to ref with refuge refugees. it is considering more than 800,000 applications, but german,says it can't do it alone. it needs helps from the neighbors in the eu, but also looking to other cunning like the united states to take in more refugees. jake? >> atika, ivan and arwa, thank you so much for all those reports. if you are wondering how you can help in the ongoing refugee crisis, visit cnn.com/impact for