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trump was in fact on the line. but the congressman appeared to brush off the ex presidents call. that is telling. in the end, trump's support for mccarthy wasn't enough to flip the chamber's most conservative members. six maka republicans, including rosendale, couldn't stomach voting for the new speaker. instead, mustering a mirror present vote. so has the trump factor lost its luster? the ex presidents fresh off a disastrous midterm performance were his once-coveted endorsement, less like a golden ticket, more like a kiss of death. trump's own political future is still to be determined, pull after poll shows him trailing other conservatives like florida governor ron desantis in key matchups for the 2024 gop nomination. and now the republican party -- can't even managed to keep his maga house in order for a simple speaker vote. let's discuss this and a whole lot more with freshman democratic congressman daniel goldman of new york was a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of

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NBC Nightly News With Lester Holt

mike rogers had to be physically restrained from lunging at gaetz, the height of the frustration and a sign of anger bubbling over at possible deals offered to holdouts. finally, just around midnight. >> gaetz, boebert. >> present. >> rosendale. >> present >> present >> and at last, a mccarthy victory. >> two months ago you voted for a new direction for our country. you embraced our commitment to america. and now we're going to keep our commitment to you. >> reporter: installed officially in the speaker's office mccarthy ushering in a new era of divided government in washington, and quickly thanking trump for his help. >> he was with me from the beginning. he would call me, and he would call others. >> reporter: the newly minted speaker promising immediate votes on defunding the irs, a focus on the southern border, and curbing spending. >> we must get america back on track. >> reporter: but the business of

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

i think we'll eventually see mccarthy probably come out and endorse a 2024 candidacy for trump. i would imagine there was some sort of agreement behind the scenes for him to stick by him during this whole process. yeah, it was certainly a cloud over that day, what should have been a success for mccarthy, finally securing the speaker ship. we were reminded by the fact that it was the anniversary of the attack on the united states capitol. >> marc, we saw this image of congresswoman marjorie taylor greene who uncharacteristically was very much in the establishment camp this time helping mccarthy. there she is passing her phone to congressman matt rosendale, one of the last six holdouts and says td. we're assuming that's donald trump, she wants to pass on this call to rosendale. rosendale is waving it offer. apparently he said you can't do that to me right now. what do you make of it all? >> i think president trump was able to sway a couple of people

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

greene who uncharacteristically was very much in the establishment camp this time helping mccarthy. there she is passing her phone to congressman matt rosendale, one of the last six holdouts and it says "dt." we're assuming that's donald trump, she wants to pass on this call to rosendale. rosendale is waving it offer. apparently he said you can't do that to me right now. what do you make of it all? >> i think president trump was able to sway a couple of people from going no to present. i think that's it -- >> that's not a huge influence for a former president. >> i do appreciate you have chip roy on here, because i think chip was consistent and always has been on the spending. what you watched were some of the people in the opposition, the reality is that in 20 -- i'd say the trump/pence administration, i think one of the areas we failed was spending. highest deficit ever was 2020. many taking credit for writing the omnibus big in 2019 that became law in 2020.

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Erin Burnett OutFront

vote. just with the math here, as you were explaining, he has three paths. either he gets three people to vote present. he gets two people -- of the holdouts, two people to vote for him, or he gets one to vote present and one to vote for him. so, in this case, the thinking is if they can get three people, so crane, rosendale, and boebert, to vote present, they would theoretically still be committed to not voting for kevin mccarthy and not violate that pledge, but it would be a way to get kevin mccarthy to 218. he has already made a number of concessions. so it's unclear what his pitch is at this moment. could just be a pressure campaign. we know donald trump was trying to get involved today. it could be additional committee assignments. there's a number of things that kevin mccarthy could be saying. but it does seem the pressure is growing and things are moving in the right direction for kevin mccarthy, erin. >> melanie, thank you very much. melanie with that really crucial piece of information here as these minutes tick away to this next round of voting. so, what do we know about these

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Erin Burnett OutFront

have to roll. >> lots of things have to happen. >> it's better than sounding doubtful at this juncture. but there are going to be conservatives on every committee. every republican in the conference and the house -- the newfound enthusiasm about reducing the deficit and the debt, where was that focus when donald trump increased by $7 trillion. it'd be nice if they met it when someone other than a democrat was present. >> some of this trump spending was covid related. >> but he was a beginning government king of debt guy. >> back to this looking at biggs, good, boebert, gaetz, rosendale and crane. the focus is on rosendale and crane, to get them to vote, whether they're present or not. but that alone doesn't do it. >> it sounds like you need one more. i don't know who that is.

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Erin Burnett OutFront

that mccarthy is trying to flip. >> do you think you'll have the votes to be elected speaker tonight? >> yes. >> and you'll be able to flip rosendale and crane? >> i'll have the votes. >> well, that's an answer -- not an answer to manu's question but an answer to the bigger question, he has the votes but now? and now i will say congressman matt gaetz, a leader in the crusade against him, along with lauren boebert, tells cnn that mccarthy is likely to pull it off even though he is obviously not going to support him in any way. a lot of fast-moving developments tonight so let's begin with manu raju "outfront" live on capitol hill. here we are, it has been like this excruciating hours and hours and days, and now all of a sudden moving incredibly quickly. so much happening behind the scenes. house going to gavel back in. they're waiting on flights, going to whisk people in. what are you hearing about where we are right now? >> reporter: after 13 failed ballots of kevin mccarthy in the

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Erin Burnett OutFront

mentioning, obviously, crane and rosendale. so what do we know about them? >> so let's start with matt rosendale. we know he's from montana. he, like boebert, has one of the most conservative records, one of the most antiestablishment records. if you look at the roll call records, he's in the top 5% for both of those in the republican conference. it's something that was hinted on the last segment by scott jennings is that he has aspirations besides just being in the house. he wants to run for senate, we believe in, 2024 against ryan zinke who represents the other district in montana. he's made his point that he's antiestablishment. but at this point i think there is this question, hey, i need friends, i don't want to upset so many people, upset republicans so much. >> coming in here -- he's new. >> right. he doesn't want to upset them so much. so i think the idea is essentially, i've made my point, maybe i'll vote present this time around. >> and what about mr. crane? >> when i have to go back and i have to look, okay, how do you

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Erin Burnett OutFront

coming just hours before the house reconvenes for its 14th round of voting. that is going to happen tonight. melanie zanona is "outfront" on capitol hill. so, melanie, everyone's been looking at these, looking at the math saying there needs to be one more. it couldn't be any of these four. they're all just so never-never kevins. what more do you know about the efforts to get boebert or any of the others to vote present? >> yeah. so this is a big development, erin. because as we've previously reported eli crane and matt rosendale were in the mix as part of the strategy to try to get them to vote present. but lauren boebert, we thought, was part of the never-ever-ever camp. she's been getting up there and nominating other people. she even pushed back on donald trump and said he needs to stop calling us and asking him to support kevin. in fact it should be the other way around, trump calling mccarthy and telling him to drop out. but we are now hearing that as this pressure campaign has been building and mccarthy has been working that she is potentially open to voting present. at least mccarthy and his allies are looking at her as that potential key third present

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