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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150419:11:22:00

james "t-bone" taylor was one of the most respected inmates among inmates at iowa's anamosa state penitentiary. not for doing good but being a two-time cop killer but when one of the victim's sister for gave him, he inspired a group called s.a.v.e., seriously acknowledging victims' emotions. >> this group is like after-care. you know, it get guys chance enough to come and sit down and find out why they have behaviors that they have. >> our cameras rolled as inmates involved in the program met with families of victims. >> our past action implied we had no regard for human life. today we know what it is feel, see hear and all the insanity and destruction and this whole

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150419:11:18:00

everything that i perceive that made me the big dog, she just took all that from me, you know what i mean. she took all that from me. she made me real humble, you know what i mean and i'm saying we hugged when she left. you know, i killed this woman's brother and people don't do that. people don't just do that. >> taylor found it hard to shrug off the emotions stirred up by the visit. >> because i was brought up that if you murder, people are going to get over it. you know i was a hardened person and i'm saying now that i see a whole different side of me, this is how it go, man. people don't forget. people don't forgive all the time. and i'm saying, you have to live with this your whole life. >> coming up -- >> we're not looking for pity. what we're looking for is an understanding we did wrong. >> t-bone's past continues to haunt him.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150419:11:15:00

bust me with it and seen it in my hand so they took it and the name just stuck. guys in the penitentiary just started calling me t-bone. >> but it was taylor's desire to rise to the top of the gang hierarchy on the outside that led him to commit the cold-blooded murders for which he will spend the rest of his life behind bars. it happened at a raucous water in waterloo, iowa. when police tried to shut it down he grabbed one of the police officer's pistols. >> i shot the man three times, right. everybody broke and run and the other police, he was still down, right so i ran over there and then i shot him three times. it wasn't cause i was on no drugs or no alcohol. you know, i wasn't impaired. >> and afterwards? >> trying to get away. it wasn't no remorse or nothing when i tried -- as i did -- i wasn't even thinking about turning myself in or nothing like that, right. you know, i hid for about like

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150419:11:14:00

>> i imagine some were a little leery of me and got respect because of my crimes. >> he is not the only convicted murderer who sees fear behind the respect. when our crew arrived they were warned, the toughest inmate here might just be james t-bone taylor serving two double life sentences for murdering two police officers in 1981. >> i had a cop killer case, it made me feel like i was big man on campus because i was getting the respect but it was only out of fear, it wasn't they respect me because who i was. >> taylor was related in gang related activity on both sides of the wall since a teenager. he earned his nickname t-bone while serving time in another prison. >> because it happened in ft. madison in the '70s, it was hard to get a knife, right so i made a knife out of bone, out of t-bone steak. we used to get steaks there back in the day and i had sharpened it down and i was going to stab a guy with it and before i could stab the guy with it, they had

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150418:06:47:00

man on campus, because i was getting respect. but it was only out of fear. it wasn't because they respected me because of who i was. >> he was involved in gang related activity on both sides of the wall since he was a teenager in east st. louis. he earned his nickname t-bone while serving time at another prison. >> because the incident happened at ft. madison in the '70s, it was hard to get a knife. so i made a knife out of bone, out of a t-bone steak. we used to get steak back in the day. i sharpened it down and i was going to stab the guy with it. before i could stab the guy with it, they had busted me with it. they saw it in my hand. they took it. the name stuck. the guys in the penitentiary called me t-bone. >> but it was taylor's desire to rise to the top of the gang hierarchy on the outside what led him to conduct the cold-blooded murders. for which he will spend the rest of his life behind bars. it happened at a ruckus party in waterloo, iowa.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150418:06:49:00

shortly afterwards taylor chose to participate in a victim pact program. but it wasn't out of remorse. he was hoping it would earn him a transfer back to his favorite prison. >> first, i was going to use it to try to get back to ft. madison. you know, i wanted to play a game -- because i wanted to go back to ft. madison. >> his participation in the program required him to meet the sister of one of the officers he murdered. >> i was scared, you know, because, you know, we're under the illusion that they're going to come and cuss us out, call us all kind of names. and this and that. and you know we're sitting down. i'm truly scared. first thing she asked me, she said, why you kill my brother? i don't have no reason, you know. she said, did you kill my brother because he was the police? i said, no. she says, suppose i kill your mother or something -- and that tore me up. we broke down. we cried. i'm talking sincerely. we cried.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150418:06:46:00

i shot two employees in the head, then i also shot two in the leg. >> riefland's symptoms have been treated with medication for several years. he now works in another factory, the metal shop on prison grounds. >> here you are back in a work environment. your fellow workers, did they know what your crime was? i was curious how that played out. >> i imagine some of them were a little leery, a little scared. i got a lot of respect, it seems like. >> where? >> at work and in the yard and stuff because of my crimes. >> he's not the only convicted murderer who sees fear behind the respect. when our crew arrived at anamosa, they were warned. the toughest inmate here might just be james "t-bone" taylor. he's serving a double life for murdering two police officers in 1981. >> i had a cop killing case. it made me feel like i was big

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150418:06:50:00

she said, i hate you. she said, i wish you was dead, you know? and it was hard for me, because all this time i've been the one that's been in control. she took that control and i couldn't, like, attack her or nothing like that. you know what i mean? that wasn't even in my mind. i didn't have control of the situation. she took control of the situation. she asked me, should i be forgiven? i said, no. she said, i'm going to forgive you. you know what i'm saying? everything that i perceived that made me the big dog, she just took all that from me. you know what i mean? she took all that from me. she made me real humble, you know what i mean? i'm saying we hugged when she left. i killed this woman's brother. and people don't do that, right? people don't just do that. >> taylor found it hard to shrug

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150418:06:48:00

when police arrived to shut it down, taylor grabbed one of the officer's pistols. >> i just shot the man three times, right? everybody broke and run. and the other police, he was still down, right? so i ran over there and i shot him three times. it wasn't because i was on no drugs or alcohol. i wasn't impaired, you know. >> and afterwards? >> trying to get away, it wasn't no remorse or nothing. i wasn't even thinking about turning myself in or nothing like that, right? i hid for about five or six days in the cornfields before they caught me, right? they give me a natural life sentence, discharged by death. >> for the next 20 years he was transferred to various prisons due to gang activity and predatory behavior. the aging inmate landed in anamosa in 2002.

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