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this was on thursday in michigan. on thursday, last week, you might remember something was going on. the country was sort of distracted. every news organization when donald trump had a verdict. the jury found him guilty on all 34 charges. he totally melted down. earning what i think was the headline for the ages from that day. convicted, trump blames judge, jury, and country gone to hell. what a nice man. what a leader. but while that was happening in new york, there was a big surprise in michigan. now, do you remember seeing this tape? this was from right after the 2020 election. it was december 14 of 2020. this really appear today be a crime being committed there on tape. and an important crime. these are republicans in michigan showing up at the door of the state capitol, demanding that they be let inside because they insisted that they were michigan s votes for the electoral college. since december 14th was the day all the states were casting their votes, these guys demanded to be let in to cast michigan s electoral college votes for trump. which is not the way it works because trump lost michigan and biden won. but these republicans were pretending to be the real electors and demanding to be let in. and that police officer stopped them. and he was very polite. he was like, the soul of patience. very kind to them. he was very, very firm with them. >> he is so patient. the electors are here and you re not them. he stops them from what they were going to do. get themselves into the state capitol. that was in 2020. that was the middle of the effort to try to overturn the election results and have trump stay in power though he lost. i say that looked like a crime being committed and an important one because those fake electors have been criminally indicted for what they did there. for conspiracy to commit forgery and election law forgery. the 16 fake trump electors were all charged with those felony counts. and in that criminal case in michigan, there were 11 other people besides the fake electors who were listed as unindicted coconspirators in that same case including former president trump himself and his then lawyer rudy giuliani who has since had his law license removed. the prosecutor described trump s status in the michigan case by saying quote he is a part of the investigation. but he hasn t been charged with a crime yet. hasn t been charged yet. in court proceedings on that criminal case. because there are felony charges pending against the fake electors themselves. last week, there was testimony from that particular police official. the same guy who had to personally bar the door of the state capitol when they were trying to get in. on thursday, while trump was being convicted in his new york criminal case, he, this michigan state police captain now, he was being interviewed by the fbi and by federal prosecutors from washington dc. wait a second. i thought he was testifying in a state case. a state criminal case that has been brought against those fake electors, yes, he was, but he testified he had just been in touch with federal prosecutors and the fbi. so in that michigan fake elector s prosecution, michigan is one of four states where they are pending. prosecutor says he is not charged under michigan law. we find out in surprise testimony that federal prosecutors as of right now, as of thursday, are interviewing people who saw what happened with the attempted overthrow of the election in michigan. there haven t been federal charges brought in michigan. right? trump is already facing federal criminal charges for trying to overthrow the government and stay in power after losing the 2020 election. those charges were brought in dc. but it would appear that federal investigation into that overall matter is still open. if federal prosecutors from dc and the fbi are still investigating and still interviewing people right now. if they are doing so, and according to that police captain s testimony they are, i would guess the fbi and federal prosecutors are still looking into the michigan fake electors matter. there is already the federal criminal indictment against donald trump, maybe these interviews with important figures in this matter in michigan indicates the possibility of a superseding federal indictment. maybe additional charges for the same defendant who has already been charged. trump may be potentially adding more defendants to it. we do not know. but, that michigan state case is still open and ongoing and it is apparently a matter of active investigation by federal prosecutors and the fbi as well. knock me over with a feather right? that was unexpected for me. it is a reminder that things may not unfold the way any of us is expected. and you may think you are sort of running through the tape in this stuff and you look ahead and realize there s a lot more tape and lots more intervals. i mean, who knows how this is going to unfold. and for how long. this is the first former president to ever be criminally indicted. then he got criminally indicted three more times. he was the first former president to face a criminal trial. then he became the first former president ever convicted of a felony. then he was convicted of two felonies, then three, then four, then ultimately 34. he is named as an unindicted coconspirator in the criminal case against arizona republicans who helped try to overthrow the election result ins that state. he is named as an unindicted coconspirator in the case in michigan as well. things are not necessarily going to unfold the way we are expecting. and none of this is over. yes, if trump gets elected in november, that s one thing. but if he loses in november, this is all going to go on for a very long time in lots of different places which is important for us to think about as a country. because we have a legal system that we use for all sorts of things. including for holding people accountable for when they try to overthrow the government. and we have now got not just trump and his most rabid followers, but we have now got a whole republican party that is on the record, deeply and radically invested in delegitimizing the american legal system in the eyes of the american people. which means in practical terms, that the people who end up, it is by choice, sometimes it s not. these people are going to need protecting in an ongoing way. stormy daniels to whom the push money payment was made that was falsely booked in trump s business record which is why he was convicted of 34 felonies. stormy daniel has done her first interview since the verdict. and in that first interview, you can see that she is just, an emotional interview. you can see she is overwhelmed in particular by the revelation though this one trump case is over, this whole thing is never going to be over for her. >> it is not how i feel. it is how i don t feel. i am obviously glad of the verdict. it proves i was telling the truth. that i was not paid for sex. it was not a prostitution job. i was not an escort or a prostitute. but i guess i just thought i would put the bow on the package and it would be all tied up and good. the good part is, i don t have to go to court again because that s never fun. you always feel like you are the bad guy even when you are not. because being on the stand is intimidating with all the jurors looking at you. i m glad some stuff came out in court that i wanted to come out. and it proved like i said, i have been telling the truth the entire time. but at the same time, emotionally, it is not over. it is probably i realize, it is probably never going to be over for me. he has the patience of a saint. and he is brave i think. i know what his life is going to be like in the immediate future. i fear for the jurors as well. i fear for the jurors as well. nbc news reporting that the other main prosecution witness in the trump criminal trial michael cohen has since the verdict had his whole family doxed. people have posted street addresses for his wife and children and other identifying information. nbc news reported in the immediate wake of the verdict, pro trump message boards posted a high volume of violent threats toward the prosecutor and the judge in the new york case including what purported to be the home address of the district attorney alvin bragg and the home addresses for some of the jurors from the case. this is what it is like for people who are part of a legal system. and this is an ongoing thing. this is not going away. there s lots of pending cases against trump. and, these threats and the harassment and intimidation of people who are involved, witnesses, jurors, prosecutors, court personnel. the intimidation campaign against everyone they have involved. they circulated the purported names and photographs of members of the grand jury in fulton county georgia. this year before trump was convicted in march and april. reuters counted at least 152 posts on three pro trump websites. urging the beating or killing of judge merchan or judge mcafee. one january 6th convict who has served his prison sentence taking part in the trump mob attack, he posted on twitter. a noose. it is designed to make the legal system unworkable when it comes to trump. it is designed to make people more willing to participate in the system if trump is involved in the case. they want you to fear for your life and the live of your family. that s the basic idea behind it. right? we are all supposed to be so scared of what he will do. we are supposed to be so scared of how crazy his supporters will go, to be safe, we should let him do whatever he wants. anything that annoys him or holds him back or punishes him for what he has done, they will get so mad and we should be so scared of what he will do. because oh, you wouldn t like them when they re mad. trump was asked about his potentially being sent to prison when he gets sentenced next month. he said this in response. he said quote, i don t know that the public would stand for it. i m not sure the public would stand for it. i think it would be tough for the public to take. at a certain point, there is a breaking point. he is saying you jail me, there will be a breaking point. the public won t stand for it. sounds like a threat right? it is a threat. he wants us all to feel threatened. he makes the same threat all the time. september, 2022 after the fbi served the search warrant, he said i don t know how much more our country will be willing to withstand. two months later, december, 2022, all caps. the people of this country are not going to take it much longer. then he was asked about the possibility of him being criminally indicted. he said i think you will have problems in this country the likes of which we have never seen before. i don t think the people of the united states would stand for it. i this i they would have big problems. i don t think they would stand for it. in march, 2023, he said if he was indicted, it would rain down death and destruction. that he said would be catastrophic for our country. death and destruction if he were indicted. then he was indicted. then, last summer after he was indicted, he was asked about a possible prison sentence. he say theres will be civil war level catastrophic violence if anything happens to him. like an indictment or an arraignment which has happened multiple times. like a conviction which has happened 34 times. every step of the way, he has made the same threat. death and destruction, like nothing the country has ever seen before. it was not actually what they do. it is not actually how the country feels. most people in this country think the verdict was the right thing. the country is not rising up en masse to defend him. the country thinks, he committed crimes and it makes sense he was convicted of them. these threats that if anything happens to him in the legal system, the country won t stand for it and there will be mass violence and there will be blood in the streets and there will be riots. that is not happening. what is happening is his followers are terrorizing individual people. involved in the legal process. and the republican party at the highest level and with almost total uniformity is simultaneously telling the american people that the american legal system is bunk and they shouldn t respect or trust it and republicans at the state level are not just tolerating and trying to get away with election crimes to help trump, criminal election subversion is now being celebrated and rewarded even in places where criminal prosecutions of these folks are ongoing. places like arizona and nevada. fake trump electors are charged with felonies there. but the accused felons have been given new jobs. state representatives to the republican national committee. they have done the same with one of the fake electors in wisconsin. where republicans are trying to recall a state legislative leader who acted with insufficient fervor to overthrough the election results in wisconsin when biden won that state and trump lost. in nevada, two of the states official electors for the 2024 election will be people who are currently under indictment for what they did as fake electors in the last election. in the republican party right now, january 6th defendants are hostages and hero who s will be fully and immediately pardoned. fake electors will be new party leaders. brave souls who said no to the coup. people who democrats and normal people briefly tried to lionize for their bravery. they are rejected. while prosecutors and judges and witnesses and jurors are hounded and threatened daily. this is not something about which you can put your head down and wait it out. because these cases are going to go on and on. but we are in a moment where the burden of intimidation and harassment and threat and violence, the burden of what is going on in the trump movement is terroristic. it is not mass violence. the burden of what is being threatened against our fellow americans is falling disproportionately on on a small number of people. to try to pick them off. in order to intimidate the whole country. there isn t a civil war. there isn t a riot. i was promised there would be riots if trump were convicted. there were no riots. there hasn t even been a good sized trump protest in years. they are not using mass action. they are using targeted harassment and threats toward specific people to try to cow all of us. to make us all scared of anything that holds trump to account and punishes him for committing crimes. so the solution to that is not rocket science. it is not complex. it s like a couple of things fairly obviously. one, we defend more than we have been. the people being intimidated and harassed and threatened, because they are standing in for all of us. we as a country will change our behavior. we will in the words of tim snyder s book, we will advance, we will cower and try to make sure we only do things that make trump happy. because we are so scared of the response. there are individual people who are bearing the brunt of terroristic intimidation by the pro trump movement that is designed to carol all scare all of us. if we don t stand up for those people, it is a self-fulfilling prophesy. they can all be protected. second. we have a report coming up live from michigan where the testimony from the end of last week opened a spotlight on the fact that there might be further federal criminal charges related to the efforts to overthrow the election. we should not cower about the prospect that trump and his supporters will get mad if trump is held to account. yes, they will be mad. more federal charges could be brought. if so, so be it. there is no reason anybody should shy away are the that. more state charges may yet be brought. there are open investigations, not guilty just in michigan, but in some of the other states, they have pronounced trump to be an unindicted coconspirator. they said the 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>> i think you hit on a couple of them. this is ongoing. the attorney general s staff is trying to figure out what the guidance was that was provided to these 16 electors whose signatures ended up on this certificate claiming donald trump had won michigan 16 elector votes. the investigation is ongoing. there is a federal probe that is ongoing as you mentioned. the key thing here is the attorney general s office has to prove as part of his case to be successful, these individuals had an intent to defraud the public. the question is, did these individuals have that intent? or was someone essentially fooling them into signing this document not letting them know what the true purpose of the document was and turning it around, taking their signatures and doing something different than what they had told them they were going to do? that s the crux of all of this. it is not their attempt at fraud, if it is someone else s, the question is whose was that and why have they not been charged so far? >> right. and to have the state prosecutors in michigan, the investigators say we have these 16 defendants but here are another 11 people unindicted coconspirators including the former president. they are painting a sprawling picture. but the charges haven t necessarily followed all of the all of the allegations. part of the reason i wanted to talk to you, i was surprised by this revelation you reported in court that there appear to be an ongoing federal investigation here. a federal investigation on top of what s going on with the state. do you have any sense from what has been disclosed in court what the contours might be of that federal investigation? >> well, the police captain who revealed this, and everyone in the courtroom was surprised by this. the defense attorneys were surprised. even the judge used the word surprised to talk about this. statement that was made by the michigan police captain all of a sudden out of the blue is kind of a traditional line of questioning. who else have you talked to? and this police captain says oh, i talked to some people yesterday from washington dc. everyone froze for a second. what do you mean you talked to someone from washington dc yesterday? he said that this interview focused on the electors. this was an interview that lasted some amount of time talking about the fake electoral votes that the people brought to the doorstop of the michigan capital on december 14th, 2020. he said that they didn t ask about specific individuals. he had a list of names they asked about this person. it must have been from what i could tell from his testimony, must have been overall what happened when you were at the doorstep. what happened? >> it was fbi, fbi personnel, and federal prosecutors. >> exactly right. >> wow. >> it s amazing. it is important to keep your old tape when you play a tape of something. hold onto it. you never know when the fbi will finally follow up on the crime that you aired on your tv show. craig, you have really helped us and the whole country follow the nitty-gritty of these stories as they have unfolded and they unfold in more and more important ways so we are grateful for you. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> craig, politics reporter for the detroit news. all right. we ll be right back. stay with us. be right back. stay with us. good vision is more important than ever, but so is saving. that s why america s best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. here s to getting better with age. here s to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don t. so, here s to now. boost. 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class= nosel > div class= colspacer > div class= gutr > that is it for us, thank you so much for watching. remember, if your friends are busy tonight, had a hot date, you and can watch the nightcap tomorrow night, saturday at 11:00. he s turn right here on msnbc. for now i am signing off and on that note i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late with me, i will see you tomorrow. i think back and i go, this was such a senseless murder. and why diane? why, when she was ready to start a brand-new life? i will never know that answer. spectacles kept coming. >> hi diane, it s 2:00, just making sure you are here today. >> at 2:00 it was too late. >> simone have killed her. >> we had her body at the scene, that was all. >> she had a fiance. >> they argued a lot. >> we had our ups and downs, no question. >> and a coworker with a crush. >> he was an odd character. >> i was always very spoiled lead to her. >> everybody was suspect. >> then the break. tips from other women. >> he wanted to get me in there and i didn t budge and all of the bells were going off. >> i jumped in my car and took off. i felt i had dodged a bullet. >> the who was frightening, but the y was much worse. >> in my wildest rooms i would have never imagined something like this could even exist >> we you certainly had a motive. >> yes, we did. >> ♪ it was the afternoon of november the 15th, austin, texas, 4:00 p.m. something ominous in the air. suddenly, the familiar feel of it against the skin, comping. something big. >> they did tell us on the news, if you don t have to go out tonight, don t, because we are going to get relentless reins. >> and then the sky overhead turned dark, like midnight in the afternoon. >> when stuff like that is pitch black out and you have the fear of tornadoes. >> sure enough, so the announcers on tv, twisters had been spotted heading towards the city, including northwest. >> diane lived in the northwest and i called her i said, hey, girl, they just said there is a tornado heading in your direction, and she said my direction? and she s like, i don t know what to do. i ve never been in a tornado. >> so, she was kind of freaked out? >> she was very freaked out. >> then the ferocious rain and heavy wind, the thick funnel clouds dipped around the city. the next morning, a friday. it was all over. friends checked on friends. but no one could reach diane. the freaked out one. diane holik work from home, for ibm. that morning, so unlike her. she missed the conference call. >> hi diane, it is to:00. i am just checking to make sure you are safe. >> all day, phone calls from ibm and friends went to voicemail. >> diane, hey, this is sharon, i was going to see if you are going to show up tonight or not. >> she didn t. >> i got to the club and i was waiting, and she didn t come, she didn t come, and i spent all of my time wondering when she was going to show up. >> had she been caught in the storm? had her house been hit? a coworker called the police. they cruised over to diane s neighborhood and found her big house unscathed. they. through windows, the security key. they went upstairs. there, all but hidden behind a guest room bed, they found diane. >> someone had killed her. i actually had a scream of some sort, just like, you can t-- it is not true. that is not what happened, that is not diane. >> but of course it was. diane holik, 43 years old, suddenly the unlikely center of a strange and disturbing mystery, and a most unlikely victim, murdered. >> absolutely lived life with gusto. she was a vivacious, beautiful woman. >> reporter: lynn had a known diane since the 90s when they started working together at ibm. >> she let her friends, she let her family. we would vacation together. we would have so much fun and just laugh and laugh and laugh. well, a lot of things we like to do altogether was we hit the clubs a lot. >> lots of dancing. >> lots of dancing. >> diane met anita and cheyenne cooper at the ladies room of an austin bar. >> she was in there, she said oh, you have cowboy boots, you must know where country barn is. we said yeah, i do. our best friend is coming and we are going to go when she gets here. and she said cool, i m going to go with y all. first time i had ever met her, never seen her before. >> she was in town for 3 weeks. >> diane said well, not just for the club, so she gets into the truck where her clothes are and starts pulling at something western and starts putting it on right there in the parking lot. she was crazy. she was throwing things on that she was-- >> stripped right there in the parking lot. >> right there in the parking lot. we danced all night long, she was having a blast, so happy that she had met the two of us, because she said, now i have me some dancing buddies. >> so magnetic. which, said her colleague, helped make her a fine recruiter for ibm. >> i would center off to colleges, and these kids, they would just gravitate to her. she had a personality that just stood out. >> and her attitude? endlessly adventurous. >> one time i remember sending her off to do a recruiting trip, and she got out there and they were doing a balloon fest, and she called me up and said, i need half a day off. and i said why? she said, i m jumping in a balloon and going. >> she would always test the edges with you? >> always, yes. >> she would throw all kinds of parties at her house and invite everyone she knows. >> so, they may not know each other, but everybody knew her? >> yes. yes. and she was great, she just loved having all of these wonderful people around her. >> in any room, any crowd, diane was the lure, especially to men. >> it was never a problem going out with her, because she was like a magnet for all of us. >> yeah. there was always been around when diane was there. always. >> so there were. now she was dead. and the one thing that seemed obvious, there is that second floor bedroom, what happened to diane for the mark of a man. coming up, a killer is calm and cool as he is coldhearted. >> you commit the act of murder, and then you leave, you don t want to get caught, the that person didn t do it. that, in itself was odd. >> someone close to diane? 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(energizing music) i got a page from the supervisor in homicide saying that a woman had been found deceased in her home in northwest austin. narrator: detectives tracey gerrish and eric de los santos i got a page from the supervisor and homicide, saying that the woman had been deceased in her home in northwest boston. >> detectives tracy garrett i long since learned that if didn t tell them much. but when diane was murdered? >> we had the body, and that was all in the beginning. >> they looked for evidence of forced entry, there was none. >> the doors were locked and windows were attacked. >> either the killer knew her, or she let the person in. in any event it certainly didn t look like a robbery turned deadly. >> she still had her watch on, she still had a tennis bracelet on, and she had a charm that was in her hair that had obviously been on that was not around her neck. she also had some money that was sticking out of her pocket. >> so, maybe diane s body would tell them the story. the killer had hidden her under a bedspread. >> it appeared that she had been strangled, a ligature mark around her neck. >> it could have been a rope, it could have been one of those flecks fans that you used to exercise. >> clearly not somebody s had? >> clearly. what about her eyes and her face? was there any sign there? >> she definitely had in the eyes sign strangulation. she appeared to have a bruise on her cheek. it was like a rubbing type of a bruise on her cheek and she had four of them on her stomach. >> rubbing type of ruse? >> as if you are being dragged across the carpet and it was a rug burn. >> they discovered sponges of lipstick and mascara on the carpet. >> we also found a spot of urine, where her body would have been, had she been strangled. so, we knew something that happened there at that particular spot. >> she must have been killed there. and behind the bed where they found her body, was there any indication that she had been sexually assaulted in any way? >> no. >> her clothes weren t messed up. there was nothing indicating that she had been fighting, she had no scratch marks on her neck. why didn t she try to defend herself? so, as we continue to look at the body we notice some red marks on her wrist. that was interesting, because you don t usually see that. there was no ties, there was no rope, there is no tape around her in the room. >> just red marks. >> just red marks. >> little red marks that look, somehow familiar. >> it looks like two parallel lines, and then perpendicular to those lines were little lines , probably a 16th of an inch apart. i ve seen these marks before, sometimes on the flex ties that we use. >> ties. zip tied binder. >> but then he would have cut them off afterwards. >> he obviously cut them off afterwards, and we knew that immediately. >> detective santos s mind went to the darkest of places. diane must have been restrained with those zip ties, helpless, terrified as she watched her killer preparing the ligature and put it around her neck. >> what kind of horror did you go through? what was going through your head? >> after she was dead, the killer must have stayed for a while, carefully erasing any sign of his or her presence. >> so, that in and of itself was odd, that doesn t happen. you commit the act of murder and then you leave, you are scared, you want to get out of there, you don t want to get caught. this person that we didn t know, if they were male or female, didn t do that. >> with this person? so deliberate, so cold-blooded. this was no straightforward case, nothing simple about it. >> i probably didn t sleep for 72 hours. >> as they chased down their endless questions. >> so, what does that leave you with? was it a targeted killing? the one who is angry with her? >> those were all possibilities. most of the time you are going to be killed by someone you know. sometimes it is someone you know very well. and of course, we are all familiar with domestic violence, so, you know, we want to see who is in the immediate inner circle of her life? >> diane s friends, they learned, she had been married years before, but had spent most of her adult life as a single woman and happily so. until she changed her mind. >> she left her single life, and she loved her independence, but an interesting thing happened when she had 40. she decided, i need a partner, i need somebody like my friends have. i wanted marriage, i want the things they have. >> so, diane set out to find a mate. with the help of the dating service, it s just lunch. and pretty soon she met a divorced father of two, named dennis connolly. >> i think they truly, immediately had a chemistry. i think they were in love. he was a successful businessman, he was handsome, he took her everywhere, and that is what she was looking for. >> just two months later, dennis presented diane with the bubble of a lifetime, a $20,000 engagement ring. >> he loved her, he put her on a pedestal and treated her like a queen. >> she likes his daughter, she cared very much for his daughters. and that was a strong point. >> they make plans, as lovers do. dennis had moved from austin to houston. the idea was diane could sell her big house and move down there too. it was a downmarket then, but as diane told her friends, there was one potential buyer. now diane was dead. and there were all of those questions. not a robbery, and yet, as the detectives soon discovered, something was missing that $20,000 engagement ring nowhere to be found. so, police wondered, where was fiance, dennis, during the violent storm? and did he know something? coming up. the storm outside and in. >> they argued a lot. >> we had our ups and downs, no question. you know, it wasn t like -- >> physical? >> never. >> when dateline continues. lin it s okay to show off. with dupixent, show off your clearer skin and less itch. because you have plenty of reasons to show off your skin. with dupixent, the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists and allergists, you can stay ahead of your eczema. it helps block a key source of inflammation inside the body that can cause eczema to help heal your skin from within. many adults saw 90% clearer skin, some even achieved long-lasting clearer skin and fast itch relief after first dose. serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes including blurred vision, joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don t change or stop asthma medicines without talking to your doctor. show off to the world. ask your eczema specialist about dupixent. ask your eczema specialist it was true, all her friends knew it, diane holik was in love with the man it was true. all of her friends knew it. diane holik was in love with the man she met , smitten like a teenage girl, but the road of love, as we all know isn t always smooth. they were engaged so quickly. too quickly? before long they encountered some serious issued set her friends, anita and jared. >> they argued a lot. >> about, one example? her dogs, were like children to diane. but she told her friends, dennis didn t want any dogs in their new house in houston. they fought, set her friends, about what he seems to want her to be. >> she was always talking about, hey, didn t want her to do this or didn t want her to do that and that will cause arguments. >> she would not go along with it? >> no. she was independent? what was he? >> controlling. >> oh. >> very controlling. >> that can be a difficult combination to >> so, it was confusing, she probably wore this spectacular ring, but the engagement was off and then, maybe on again. and yet, that very week, set her friends, diane told them she still didn t know what to do. >> so, she had gone back and forth and back and forth? >> emotionally she was a roller coaster, because she just couldn t see how it was going to work and none of us could see how it would work either. >> especially when she told sharon she had made a date with another man. >> we kept telling her, if you are still wanting to do these things, you are not ready for that. >> but she had her house for sale? >> yes, she was going to downsize. if she didn t get married, she was going to downsize anyway, because this house was just way too good. >> waffling under plans for dennis? a date with another man? she said she had seen dennis angry, so, after diane was murdered, she wondered-- >> maybe he had just lost control of his life and killed her. that was my first thought. >> detective gerst ash dennis to come to the station to speak without the aid of a lawyer. the detectives focused on the timeline. they believed diane had been killed that stormy thursday afternoon or evening. her body was discovered about 5:30 p.m., friday. >> we were definitely interested in where he had been for the last three days. he knew he was going to verify his alibi to us. >> at the station, dennis seemed upset, but composed. as he told investigators, he was in his office in houston the night of the big storm, but exchange online messages with diane, back in austin that afternoon. >> it was just, you know, like, hey, i m working late, i m getting ready to go home, and she just send me, you know, i love you. that was it. >> and you were at the office? okay. >> dennis said he got home from work late thursday evening and was back on friday. >> we looked at the conference, could he have driven down to austin for diane and theoretically driven back in time for work? and yes, he probably could have. >> they checked diane s answering machine and found messages from him, this one was left on friday, the day after the big storm. she was dead by then. >> hey, you, if i don t hear from you in about an hour, and calling the freaking police. and have to go by your house okay? >> another message, saturday morning. >> diane, what is going on? give me a call. you have me worried to death. by. >> which could have been some sort of cover-up, of course. dennis admitted, their relationship was iffy. >> we ran into rough spots. we were going to build a house in houston and i decided that, you know, given the fact that we weren t getting along to gather, very well-- i mean, there was no fight, we all fight, it s just -- everybody carries baggage of your relationships at this age, and -- and our baggage was clashing, and we were working on it, but we decided not to be engaged anymore. >> okay. >> and stop holding a house. >> but he said they were going to therapy, which was hoping. >> i mean, we were really, really making breakthroughs, you know? >> about diane s dogs, for example. >> she saw that i was accepting the fact that, you know, her dogs were going to be in the house. >> and not long before diane was killed-- >> i remember her saying you know, that she would-- she loved me and that she would jump at the chance to be in a relationship and marry me, and, you know, no matter how long it took. yeah. we had our ups and downs, no question, but it wasn t like -- >> no physical fights? >> no. never, never, never even angry or loud words. it was just -- it s stupid, you know? >> she thought i should be more of a-- like, handyman kind of guy, like her dad, right? and-- and i thought she should be more appreciative. >> what she faithful to you? >> i would-- i would be shocked if she wasn t. i would be stunned. >> everyone has his or her version of the truth, of course. dennis story, not at all what diane s friends said they had been hearing from her. >> i wanted so many times to just say, dude, you are just so stupid, because she did want to marry you. >> detective geyer garrett took fingerprints, collected dennis s dna and check his alibi, and dennis? before he left, dennis brought up another name. >> has anybody gotten a hold of ray? >> no, we are trying to figure out who ray is. >> ray was a colleague of diane s at ibm. >> he seemed to worship the ground she walks on. he seems to be attracted to women that are not attracted to him. honestly, if i was-- if i was a woman, i would-- he would be giving me the creeps. >> and according to dennis, he and diane were not on good terms. >> now, they had a falling out about a month or so ago. don t know the exact nature of it. >> so, time for a talk with ray. coming up. a coworker, with a crush, but did he want something more? >> i was always very spoiled to her, and very affectionate to her. >> when dateline continues. i asked my doctor about treating my td, and learned about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ ingrezza is clinically proven for reducing td. most people saw results in just two weeks. people taking ingrezza can stay on most mental health meds. only number-one prescribed ingrezza has simple dosing for td: always one pill, once daily. ingrezza can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington s disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, behaviors, feelings, or have thoughts of suicide. don t take ingrezza if you re allergic to its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including angioedema, potential heart rhythm problems, and abnormal movements. report fevers, stiff muscles, or problems thinking as these may be life threatening. sleepiness is the most common side effect. take control by asking your doctor about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. i ll be honest. by the end of the day, my floors...yeesh. but who has the time to clean? that s why i love my swiffer wetjet. it s a quick and easy way to get my floors clean. wetjet absorbs and locks grime deep inside. look at that! swiffer wetjet. i am just collate in with the hour s top stories. the united nations is answering adding israel and hamas to its military forces harming children amid military conflict. the news comes as israel faces new criticism for an airstrike in central gaza that killed dozens of people at a u.n. displacing palestinians. and president biden spoke of the need to protect democracy while fighting dictators and hateful ideology, as he honor the sacrifices of soldiers 80 years ago on the beaches of normandy. now, back to dateline. suspicion. there was lots of it to go around after diane holik was choked to death in her own guest bedroom. at least one of diane s friends directed her suspicion at dennis. the man who said he was her fiance, but was he anymore. dennis swore it wasn t him, but maybe he was suspicious too. what about this guy? he asked? what about ray. >> there was a man that she worked with, by the name of rafael chauncey, and she had actually hired him at ibm, so she was kind of his boss. >> maybe more than his boss? here s what diane s friends told the police about ray. >> he was johnny on the spot every time she needed something. he always called ray and ray was there. honestly in my heart i believe that he truly loved her and would have varied her. >> if she would have him? >> yeah. if she would have him. >> it seemed off to dennis. s relationship with diane he told the police, it was a little too cozy, obsessive maybe? >> he always felt like maybe ray kind of took a liking to her was very infatuated with her, and he would always offer to take care of her dogs when she was out of town. always wanted to be kind of close to her. so, he thought maybe that he had too much of an interest in diane. >> what s more, ray had his own personal key to diane the house and remember, there was no forced entry. the killer was either invited and or had a key. so, detective gerrish asked ray to come into the station and answer a few questions, except it was ray who seems to be full of questions. >> working on it. unfortunately i don t know anything about diane holick when until i went to her house last night. >> he seemed excited to share what he knew. >> how long have you known diane? >> two years. >> he was an odd character, eager to help us, almost too i eager, to the point where throw us off a little bit. >> my group, my payment to her was not to always take care of her dogs. in two years she didn t have a dog sitter, i even change my schedule so i could walk her dogs. he told you a lot didn t he? man, i can t believe it. i always had a crush on diane, since i was younger. >> to diane reciprocate your feelings? >> no. >> did that ever cause problems to you? >> no. in the beginning-- >> argument that stuff? >> no, in the beginning we have some -- i was always very spoil- ey to her, very affectionate, she didn t like it. >> they played good cup, that cop. another detective came in, frustrated. >> no sexual relationships? you want to? i always wanted to, but never did. know, it was a little bit more formal than that i guess. >> you never had a sexual relationship? >> no. never. so, your dna shouldn t be found on her? >> you are not giving it to us? >> if you wanted. >> ray agreed, he did have a key to her house, but he also had an alibi, he was at work the day diane was murdered. >> i had the badge. there s cameras all over the place too at work. you can ask for the records. >> that day, ray said he stayed late at work and then drove home through the terrible traffic created by the storm. and after that, stayed home. >> stayed home and didn t go anywhere. back to work this morning at 8:00, 8:00. >> of course they needed to verify all of that. but when they asked ray about dennis, the fiance? >> that is a loaded question. >> it is and. i mean, i want the truth. >> there were some problems or whatever? >> they were going to get married this november. >> clearly diane had complicated relationships with dennis and ray. so, just as they had done with dennis, police fingerprinted ray and took a dna swab and went on looking. sharon told the detectives done had a date with the man and they couldn t figure out who that man was, but they tracked down every man she had met from the dating service. >> i interviewed every single day she had through that service. >> too many options. police wondered, has diane been strangled by a man she had met through the dating service? or a man she knew well? even left? and yes, something seems to be missing, but what? this wasn t going to be easy. coming up, a funeral and a wedding, and what some say was a former fiance s extremely strange behavior. >> oh god, we did a morbid thing. i mean beyond belief. >> and finally a clue. >> was this one of his stakes? 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>> right. no idea who did it. >> exactly, and i had an idea that we would have the crime scene. >> that meant she had investigators went back to diane s house to take a look. >> and went over it with the alternate light source. we have to do it in the dark. we just take it and put it in carpeting or on any kind of fabric or anything. and certain things will fluoresce. >> for example, if there is blood. >> the alternate light search source we are looking for. >> it didn t look like diane had been sexually assaulted. but they had to know for sure. and when they tested? >> there were no indications that there was any semen anywhere. and that room are different parts of the house. >> nothing. no semen, no blood, no evidence of sexual assault. and apart from her missing engagement, nothing in diane s house seemed out of place. except, in the middle of the otherwise brisk living room. >> there, on the loveseat is this tower just thrown open. weird. >> it was definitely out of place. >> maybe it was left behind by the killer? was this one of the mistakes? >> there were hairs later on. >> her hairs? >> no. >> there were seven hairs on that terrible. >> they sent the hairs to the dna lab. her friends plan the excruciating details for diane s memorial service here in austin. >> sharon found the funeral home and the lady to do the makeup and everything. we went in with them and help them pick out a casket and all. >> and her dress for an open casket. >> i need to make sure that whatever we got looks right and covered the appropriate parts of her. seeing where the wounds were, seeing where the ligature marks were, probably just as difficult as the day i found out that she passed. >> dennis came to the service, as expected, but-- >> he tended to not speak with anybody, which i found somewhat strange for a man, who was so in love with diane. >> front and center? >> no, he did not sit front and center, which somewhat surprised me. >> watched through a haze of grief and suspicion. when diane s parents moved her body from austin to their home in new york for the funeral, diane s friends as was dennis. and as diane lee in her open casket something very strange happened. >> oh god. he did a morbid thing that just infuriated her parents. i mean, beyond belief. >> dennis had brought a minister with him to the funeral. >> to actually say the marriage vows to him, as she was laying in the coffin. and then took her hand and put that gold band on. i thought mom was going to come unglued. >> diane s parents removed the ring, said a friend. but, the diane s family was appalled and her friends were deeply suspicious, back in austin, investigators were looking at all kinds of possibilities. dennis, ray, and other men diane had left remained on the list of statements, their alibis checked and rechecked. and the first time love. but that murder prosecutors talked about, was that really what happened? was the killer some random predator? >> is not a great feeling to know that you are going to have to expand out into the possibilities that this was somebody who was a stranger to her. because that makes it so much harder. >> that second, more intense search of the crime scene detectives found the first time, including this killer, where the lover has been careful and clearly prepared for what he, or she was going to do. >> this person, who is trying to avoid being captured. >> yes, so he cut the zip tie off of her and took the zip tie with him. >> and thus removed the evidence, but there was this one other thing, just a passing comment. they heard it from anita, on the phone with diane. >> she said that she had somebody that had come by earlier and had looked at the house, was very impressed with it. i said that is good. she says, yeah. i might finally sell this thing. >> good that visitor be connected to diane s murder somehow? or that discarded what towel? with those seven tiny strands of hair. coming up, a stranger knocking on doors. what happened next. >> i felt i had dodged a bullet. >> he wanted to get me in there and i didn t budge. i stood there with all of the bells going off. >> when dateline continues. ne this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks and could make it hard to be there for your loved ones. shingles could also lead to serious complications that can last for years. if you re over 50, the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside you. and as you age, your risk of developing shingles increases. don t wait. ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles today. 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we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that s uncalled for. the detectives investigating the death of diane holik were all too aware that stranger killings are among the hardest to solve. at the point when you were driving around talking to people here, did you have any idea what you were looking for even? no, nothing. narrator: especially if that stranger is as careful as diane s killer appeared to have been. i mean, it was true whodunit. narrator: the medical examiner looked carefully for evidence of sexual assault, semen, the killer s saliva, dna under her fingernails, that sort of thing. and there was none, none at all. though, police 101, maybe one of the neighbors saw something or someone suspicious. and sure enough, not one, but several neighbors had seen a stranger, a potential homebuyer, who was a welcomed visitor, frankly, in the difficult housing market that year. they all agreed he was tall, had dark slicked back hair, and a big nose, and that he said he wanted to pay cash for a nice house. so was he the man who toured diane s house day of the storm? you always try to find the last person that saw-- sure. --the victim alive. and we thought, well, this man could be the last person to see her alive. narrator: who was this phantom homebuyer? interviewer: did anybody get a name? we did get one name, walter miller and a number. narrator: walter miller? of course, they looked up the walter miller s around austin and found two of them. neither one fit that description, though. and the phone number the man left-- course they looked up to walterg miller around austin and found two of them. neither one fit that description though. and the phone number the man left? >> it ended up being a fax machine. it ended up belonging to the wife of a guy, by the name of matthew supolsky. >> matthew supolsky. what with you? >> he had a background involving a drug addiction, the muscles, a restraining order against him. and we eventually tracked on matthew >> and they realized right away he could not be the killer. >> he was in a neck brace, he had been in a bad accident, he had paralysis on his arms, so we knew it couldn t be in. >> meeting, this visitor, whoever he was, left a fake name and a big phone number. who would do that? then they found another neighbor, who had talked to the guy, heard his story, got a good enough look at him to help with a composite sketch. >> and we aired it on the 10:00 news. >> boston police have asked for help in solving a murder. police questioned a man seen in the day before that murder. they described his wife between the ages of 35-45, he s about six feet tall and neatly dressed. >> and we were hoping to get tips. >> what you know? before long women started calling. tales about a man who wanted to buy a house. >> so, what were you hearing from people who may have had a visitor? was at the same story they were hearing? >> pretty much. yeah, they were getting the story about this guy that sold his ranch in south boston he and his wife are looking to do this quick in the physical description were all the same. >> some colors, like tammy, had curious details. >> he had on brand-new gene that were probably three sizes too long. >> it was the kind of strange thing you remember said agent, tammy. >> he had on a shirt, a striped shirt that had wrinkles in it. i mean, pulls. >> just came out of the box? >> he just bought clothes, i m sure of it. he had suspenders on, which i m sure nobody wears suspenders and it wasn t like his pants are falling off. >> but it is when she showed him into the house that her nerves went on alert. >> he said oh, after you, after you. it was a standoff at the bottom of the stairs, wouldn t go. >> my stomach is tight. >> tammy was where a. years earlier, she had been raped by a customer. >> i knew all my instincts, all that i have learned and been through were the reason i was nervous about him. >> he said his name was jim sage. he kept trying to get her into upstairs rooms. >> he wanted to get me in there, and i didn t budge, i stood there and all the bells were going off. >> the next day tammy called the police to report this jim sage. >> did he hurt you, did he threaten you? did he put his hands on you and i had to say no to all of that. he said i m sorry, there s nothing we can do. >> but now, diane had been murdered, strangled, tammy remembered the man s odd suspenders use them on diane pop holick s neck. >> when did that hit you? >> after. after i found out she was strangled. >> the calls kept coming in. women, with stories of a strange man posing as a homebuyer, some truly hair- raising stories. like what happened to x real estate agent melanie blunt, six months before diane was murdered. a man had called about one of her houses. >> it was a vacant listing, and i asked him if he had been prequalified by a lender, and i am paying cash, and so i drove over to meet him at the house or go to the door to greet him. and immediately he was behind me. he would never walk in front of me. >> which made melody uncomfortable. especially because he only wanted to see vacant houses, and-- >> the whole time that i was showing him the home he was never looking at any room. he seems to be more interested in looking out windows than he did the actual room. >> she said something else seemed off about him. >> he has a ticket in his neck, constantly cracking, and popping his neck and breathing very heavy. >> melody wanted to leave, but then the man noticed the detached garage. >> he was adamant about getting in the garage. he said i really want to see inside the garage. he started that neck popping. >> her hand shook as she tried to work the key in the door. >> it didn t open. i just turned to him said i m leaving, jumped in my car. locked the car and took off and i left him. >> she drove home, still shaken. >> i have never cried, nor prayed so hard in my whole life , because i felt i had dodged a bullet. >> melody called the police too. got the same message as tammy. >> they did not believe me. did he touch you? did he hurt you? no, he did not. >> when she saw the story about diane and the sketch? >> i looked at it, and immediately knew that it was the same man. >> well, the police and prosecutor investigating diane s murder were working every angle they could think of. >> we were just coming up zero. >> he knew what he or she was doing and very careful. >> that was the impression we were getting, and that is what was increasing our anxiety. >> so, they waited for dna results from those tiny hairs found on the towel in diane s living room. and they listened to the women who called to tell them about being frightened by a mysterious would be homebuyer. >> who was he? and then one more call and they knew this could be their breakthrough. >> she said that she had seen the news and she thinks that that man had come to her house and she possibly had a flyer that he had handled that he had left behind. we were really excited about that. >> which meant that, maybe there might be fingerprinted. >> did she say this thing? >> she did it by accident. >> she didn t just throw it away? >> no, she actually picked it up and put it in a sack. >> a story by this time sounded all too familiar. >> she was excited to sell her house. she was going to pay cash, wanted to bring his wife back to look at the house and he asked her if she could look around. so, she kind of followed him into one of the bedrooms and when he got to the closet he turned around on her and she said there was this awkward silence and he just stared at her, she just became so uncomfortable she thought something bad was going to happen. >> and just then, in a nearby room, the woman s baby cried. >> and it gave her the opportunity to break the encounter with him to grab the baby and he followed her into the room and was standing behind her, when she turned around with the baby in her arms and it must have spooked him. >> and he just left? leaving behind the flyer? >> leaving behind the flyer. >> so they picked up the real estate flyer and brought in a latent fingerprint those prints might just belong to their killer. remember, they found no prints in diane s house to compare them to. in fact, this was strange. even diane s (hard to find. as if the killer may have wipe them clean. >> it was really not even the fingerprints that you would think you would find in a house that was occupied. >> that is very rare. >> yes, it was very rare and scary. >> scary because they wouldn t know who he was. scary because if he was a stranger just looking for a convenience target he had probably seen the stories on tv with a composite sketch and knew they were looking for. so he could have changed his appearance or left the area, or even worse, my strike again somewhere else. but then? there was this one more phone call from a woman, who said she too had an experience with a male homebuyer and this call just might lead them to an actual person. coming up. >> she immediately got a creepy feeling from him. >> the brick detectives had been waiting for. >> she actually wrote down his license plate and called police. >> when dateline continues. co keith morrison (voiceover): the idea that the murder of diane holik had something to do with her attempt to sell her house the idea that me tthe murde diane holik had something to do with her attempt to sell her house was gaining some traction. even the friend who remained so suspicious of diane s fiance wondered about that. >> i had a fleeting moment that maybe it was somebody dealing with the realty and selling of the house because there were quite a few people that came in. i thought maybe a husband found her attractive, you know? made a move and she didn t go for it. >> calls were pouring in to the police station from women who all shared a similar story. they described a man who claimed to be in the market for a new home but seemed to be shopping for something more sinister? one woman provided police with the mystery man s fingerprint. detectives thought the crime scene had been wiped clean so there was no way to match it back. there was a new caller and she was about to give them more. >> and she basically had told us that months earlier that this man with the same story had come to her home but in a different neighborhood. >> but very affluent so it kind of matched. >> he was insistent about wanting to go in and see that house. and she immediately got a creepy feeling from him and told him no and her husband said well if he ever comes back you need to call the police or get his license plate because it really scared her. and about six months later he came back and was very insistent on going in to see her house and she told him no she was not going to allow him to come in. and so she called the police. >> nothing happened then. the reaction she got was like those other women. the police could hardly arrest some guy for just seeming creepy. but this woman did something different. she wrote down the name and phone number the man gave her but more important his license plate number. stuck it on her fridge. instinct? luck? maybe both. >> she didn t know if he would come back again. she thought it was concerning enough that she would just leave it on her refrigerator just in case and she gave us the original piece of paper she wrote his license plate down with. >> and. >> well we immediately ran his license plate and it was a minivan and it was registered to patrick russo and his wife janet russo. >> patrick russo. his last known address was in a rural area about a half hour outside austin. so they decided to pay a visit. it s a pretty drive to bastrop county. the live oaks, the cypress trees. at 4:00 a.m. the detectives weren t exactly taking in the view as they drove to russo s home. hoping this is a lead that could shed some light on the murder of diane holik. all they had were stories about a creepy guy looking at houses for sale. was patrick anthony russo that guy? maybe, maybe not. dawn was hours away when they knocked at his door. the man who woke up to answer it looked like the composite sketch. coming up. patrick russo seemed an unlikely killer. >> i ve got my ged. i went to college. i studied for theology to become a minister. >> but an odd coincidence. he was in diane s area the day she was kills. >> you remember ever talking to her? 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>> my job is to make sure that the music for the praise team or any kind of music that s being done for church services is handled, whether i play it or have someone play it. >> and in his spare time? he fronted a christian rock band. >> what s the name of your band? >> it s broken silence. >> broken silence. that s a good name. >> again, said tony russo. he was more than willing to cooperate with the investigation. >> i will be happy to do of what you guys need. so i don t have any problem with it at all. >> so they asked him, where was he when diane was murdered. did he have an alibi? >> thursday? um, that was that big storm day, wasn t it? thursday, i spent some time at the church again. i went to go to knle here in austin. >> knle is a christian radio station. tony said they were helping him create a website for his christian rock band. >> okay. about what time was that? >> uh, i think it was about. let see, i talked to my wife. i was pulling into the parking lot so that would have been about 4:00, i believe. when no one came to the door i went ahead and left. >> so you made the trip up there for nothing basically? >> pretty much. >> then of course he got caught in that awful storm. >> i got lost for probably a good hour or so. i got on the phone with my wife. she stayed on the phone with me. it started getting later. that s when the heavy winds started coming and the tornadoes, i guess. >> so what time did you get home finally? >> um, my wife s better at the timing on this than i am. 5:30, i guess or 6:00? i m not really sure exactly the time frame. >> thing was, diane s house where she was killed was not far from the radio station. >> you remember ever talking to her? no, sir. >> tony was adamant he d never seen diane. >> you never talked to her? >> no. >> interesting. then detectives asked, had he been doing some house hunting? >> is there any reason why you d be in a neighborhood looking for a house? >> no. >> none whatsoever? >> uh-huh. >> of course they knew a thing or two about that. so the detectives leaned on him a little. >> do you want me to tell you how serious this is? >> i would appreciate it. i feel like i m getting pretty banged here and i don t even know what it s for. >> she s dead. i don t know if you noticed when you walked in here, this is the homicide unit. >> i ve done a lot things wrong in my life. i m telling you that as badly as i feel for this woman here, i m sorry, but you guys are barking up the wrong tree. >> go ahead, he said. search my house. my car. he even offered to take a polygraph. >> i don t care how hard you dig, you re not going to find me committing any crime like that. any crime, period. >> tony s wife janet was very helpful too. and her story about that day was just about the same as his. >> yeah, i was telling him where the tornadoes were. he doesn t know his way around austin all that well. next thing he knew he d circled back around going west because he was -- he said well there s candle again. >> candle is the nickname for knle the christian radio station. when the interviews ended tony asked to see janet. >> i promise you i never did anything to anybody. i promise. and all i think about is how this affects you and our church and everything we worked so hard for. >> i know. >> tony and janet russo had answered all their questions. had been cooperative. and tony even gave them a swab of his dna and his fingerprints. so the police thanked him and took them home. >> coming up. the interview part two. this one a little tougher. >> is there any reason why somebody might have seen your van over there? 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>> surely i don t have the only pewter ford minivan in this town. >> that has that license plate on it. >> that s true. that is true. >> by the time the detectives interviewed tony they d checked for priors and guess what. that conviction the one he was on parole for was for kidnapping with a very particular twist. >> he had gone into an office where a woman was alone and tied her up with zip ties and choked her. did not kill her but choked her. >> disturbingly familiar given what happened to diane holik. back then a decade before diane s murder tony confessed to kidnapping and was sentenced to 20 years in prison. it was there he met and married janet and soon after was paroled after serving only one- third of his sentence. but the kidnapping charge wasn t all they found at tony s record. even earlier, years earlier, there it was her. >> it had actually been a quiet day. >> donna shank encountered tony when she was an apartment manager. all alone late one afternoon in her building rental office when a man walked in. >> he wanted to look at a two bedroom apartment for his self and his girlfriend, he says. >> donna showed him an available apartment. >> we re walking down the hallway. we get back to what would be the master bedroom so i open the closet door and went into the closet to turn the light on and in a split second he had me by the throat. >> she struck out at him. tried scratching and slapping him in an effort to get away. he took her down. >> before i knew it i was on the floor. i was on the floor face up and he was straddling me with both of his hands around my throat just squeezing. >> tight. >> very tight. i wasn t able to speak. i wasn t able to breathe. i was thrashing and. >> grabbing at him and things. >> bucking, you know, everything i could do. until he grabbed my hands and panned them i guess under his knees. i couldn t move my hands. it just, you know, dawned on me okay well this is it. >> is this absolute terror? >> it is absolute terror to where your life flashes before your eyes and. >> you think i m going to die. >> and this is it. >> then she thought no, this would not be it and she thrashed about until she was able to free her hands. >> and i put my hands on his forearms trying to pull him away. i had sort of a high neck sweater on and he kept pulling my sweater down to look at my neck and his eyes are very different, very scary. it was completely different. it was like flipping a switch. it was a very scary crazed look. >> then donna in a panic said all she could think of saying. >> i ve been gone too long, they know what apartment i m in, they will come looking for me and he would say you re lying don t lie to me you better not be lying to me and would call me profanities and would strike me. >> he s still holding on to you, your throat. >> yes. >> but he seemed to realize yes, there was a possibility somebody would be coming to look for her and as quickly as he had become a monster. >> his expression changed again and his eyes went softer. then he completely took his hands off of me and just went like this and just covered his face and then sat back up and he said i can t believe i did this. are you okay? >> like he s a different person now. >> yes. to the point that he was apologizing profusely for doing it, asked me if i was hurt. asked me if i was okay. helped me up off of the the floor. helped me collect my necklace that was torn off and thrown about. >> he begged donna not to call the police, but she did. and he confessed. he was convicted of misdemeanor assault. and was put on probation. but as the years went by, he had attacked five other women in similar ways. including his kidnapping victim. now he s being questioned about a murder involving zip ties and choking and was denying he knew anything about it. saying the similarities with earlier incidents were merely coincidence. >> it s disgusting to sit here and listen to you talk about being such a devout christian and forgiveness and how much you ve turned your life around when this one coincidence after another this whole thing goes back to similarities that i m sure coincidental back in 1989, 1990, 91, 92. but you re this reborn christian? and you re going to sit here and lie about it? >> but the truth was at that point police could only prove patterns of behavior. patterns tony insisted he broke when he became a born-again christian. but really? so the detectives set up a little trap and asked him if his fingerprints could possibly be found on a real estate flier. >> have you ever handled aureoles flier for a house for sale in west austin. >> no. >> then your fingerprints shouldn t be on there. >> correct. >> but even as tony insisted otherwise they already had received the test results from the real estate flier saved by that woman. >> thank you lord tony russo s fingerprints were positively on that flier. >> what happens in the old gut when that? >> we knew it was him. we just weren t able to put him anywhere and now we had him. >> true, they had him recently in the home of a woman who d been terrified by his behavior. but they didn t have him in diane holik s house. to get that evidence they needed time and they worried would he run? then the prosecutor had a canny idea. when tony russo said he didn t touch the real estate flier, that was a lie. and lying to the police was a parole violation. >> so the da s office came up with this charge that allowed us the time we needed to send off all the dna and physical evidence to see if it we could actually put him at her house. >> bring your right hand back. >> so into jail went tony russo. coming up. >> there were five guys standing like a theater setting. >> show time. with a script. as his victims come face to face with tony russo. >> repeat the following phrase. do you have any information about the floor plan of the house? >> do you have any information about the familiar plan of the house? >> i did not expect him to be right in front of me. so that was extremely frightening. >> when dateline continues. >> i m out of breath, and often out of the picture. but this is my story. 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>> we had so many women that had let him into their homes in different neighborhoods all over austin, south austin, north austin, even real estate agents that he had called when he wanted to look at vacant houses. >> but could any of those women actually identify tony russo as their guy? >> we felt like we needed to do a live lineup because the phrasing and his ruse that he used was so specific and the women remembered his voice and they remembered his story. >> so they rounded up some austin police officers who looked like tony and put him and them in a lineup. and brought the women in. >> and there were five guys standing like on a theater setting. >> number one, take one step forward. >> couple of feet above me and we re down below. >> number two, repeat the following phrase. you have a beautiful house. >> you have a beautiful house. >> we had a script that each person had to step forward and exactly repeat what the detective was telling them to say. >> i m going to pay cash for a house. >> i m going to pay cash for a house. >> it was everything that was said to each one of these women when he went into their homes. >> i came to this house before, didn t i? >> i came to this house before, didn t i? >> repeat the following phrase. do you have any information about the floor plan of the house? >> do you have any information about the floor plan of the house? >> he was number one right in front of me. i did not expect him to be right in front of me. so that it was extremely frightening. >> i picked him out of a lineup immediately. i was feeling a lot of guilt. i don t know why. you just feel what could i have done? somebody s dead and this man was with me. >> how many of those witnesses picked out the right guy? >> i believe it was 15 women. >> out of the total of how many? >> i think it was 30. >> eyewitness testimony is notoriously not great and often doesn t carry much weight in a trial so you needed something more. >> yes. >> what they needed was something definitive to put tony russo in diane holik s house. they d sent off dna samples from diane s finger where her ring had been yanked off and from that towel on her couch. finally the results. >> what did the dna tell you? >> the swab on her hand was a mixture that was consistent with a combination of diane holik and russo. >> was it enough to say for sure though because dna. >> no. no, no, no. we can t exclude him. it s consistent with him. but it s not the kind of dna that you can eliminate the rest of the world. >> right. just really increased suspicion is all. >> it was helpful. it was dez positive. we sent the hair off to a lab and they did a may toe conacre dry corral dna test. we could not exclude mr. russo. >> but you couldn t say for sure. >> no. >> so close. just not quite the absolute proof they d been hoping for. but the dna did provide one very helpful service. police had confirmed the alibis of diane s fiance dennis and her ibm friend ray. these tests definitively eliminated them as suspects. >> but we could not eliminate mr. russo. >> finally six months after diane s death, tony russo was charged with murder. the risk? maybe. they d only get one shot. and the evidence they were going to take to court did not absolutely link him to the murder of diane holik. then the trial was almost upon us. they found something. something almost beyond belief. >> in my wildest dreams i never imagined that a website like this could even exist. >> coming up. the dark side to the web. and tony russo. >> you certainly had your motive. >> yes, we did. >> when dateline continues. ths what hd to me. 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not so easy. >> it was the most complex murder case definitely the most complex murder case i ve ever tried. >> that s because without hard evidence linking tony to the murder or even putting him in diane s house she d have to assemble all the jagged puzzle pieces of coincidence into a coherent pattern. >> when you re getting ready for trial you put it together almost like a play. what are you going to tell them first so you script it out. >> there were the zip ties on his property that seemed to match marks on diane s wrists. his cell phone pinged near her house. the radio station alibi was a lie. the dna, though it wasn t absolutely definitive, could not eliminate him. and all those women that identify him as that creepy guy claiming he wanted to buy a house with cash. cash which he certainly did not have. but then. >> he really wasn t looking for houses he was looking for victims. >> like realtor melody blount who cried and prayed after her encounter she found it so terrifying to testify. but did. >> i did not expect for patrick anthony russo to be sitting across from me within 10 to 12 feet and having to testify with that man looking at me, it was petri fying. >> and most unsettling when she noticed something all too familiar. >> now i m glaring at russo and what does he do? he starts that tick in his neck. starts that popping and i raised my hand up and i said there he goes. he s doing it right now. >> the state also called tony russo s victims from earlier years. including donna the young apartment manager he attacked in lake jackson, texas. >> this phone call just out of the blue after all of that time. >> she was not only surprised, she was angry. very angry. >> why did that have to a. why did someone have to be killed before this man was stopped? >> and the emotions of that whole ugly ordeal flooded right back. >> my heart started racing. it was just being terrified all over again. >> but some of the compelling evidence came courtesy of tony s first wife. as he d been married once before. >> the first wife said he could not get aroused sexually unless he was choking her and that he choked her when they had sex. >> and the second wife? >> the second wife confirmed he also choked her while they had sex. >> i mean i will say that he does tend to put his hand on my neck. any time i feel like my airway s getting restricted, you know, and he s, he always lets go. >> so a strange and potentially dangerous fetish but was that all it was? isn t it possible though that he really didn t want to kill diane holik? >> that s just my belief that he did. that just choking and not killing it was no longer enough. it wasn t enough any more. >> and why was she so sure? because of what turned up during a forensic analysis of tony russo s computer. the i.t. people landed on it just as the trial was about to begin. disturbing is perhaps too bland a word to describe what was in there. >> he was a member of a website one that you had to pay money to see. it s described as tastefully erotic death scenes and mr. russo had chosen the subcategory of asphyxiation. >> omg. >> uh-huh. >> in my wildest dreams i never imagined a website like this could even exist or that anybody would want to look at it. >> you certainly had your motive. >> yes, we did. it s called sexual sadism. >> he felt a compulsion to go and choke people. >> yes. he was sexually aroused by women being choked. >> oh boy. that gets into pretty dark territory. >> yes. >> they nailed him big time. >> diane s friend anita was in the courtroom as the state rested and she waited to hear tony s defense. >> we were all thinking okay, well, here we go. we re really going to hear a whole bunch of stuff. the room was packed solid with people. so his attorney just stood up and said defense rests. there was like a huge gasp in the room and then totally silent. >> diane s friend lynn arrived just in time to hear the closing argument. >> he stood quiet for a minute and walked over to the jury and he looked them all in the face. he said i need you to understand what happened to her that night. he put his hands up in the air like this and he put his thumbs down and he shook his hands like this as do though he was choking someone. >> he said, imagine. it took her two and a half, maybe even three minutes for her to die. >> as he s holding on to her. >> yeah. stood there and he looked at his watch and just waited. and for at least two and a half minutes nothing moved in that courtroom. >> and it was silent and he held that position with shaking hands until enough time had passed that a person would have died from being choked. >> and all of a sudden slams his hand down on the table. i mean, that s how long it took for her to die. and the whole courtroom just, i mean we all broke down at that point. to think that s how long it took for her to die. how long she suffered. >> the defense, which did not call a single witness made the case in its closing argument for all the drama the state, they said, failed to prove, because it couldn t prove, that tony russo was ever in diane holik s home. couldn t prove he killed her. tony did not testify. but he did talk to us. coming up. the verdict. >> when the jury walked back in to the jury box i can t even look at them. >> when dateline continues. lin the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. it s lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you re not at risk for shingles? 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his hair has gone silver now. he s in prison for life. and here one friday morning he brought his bible to the barrier that separates his world from ours. his holy staff of assurance that what he was about to tell us about his role in the murder of diane holik would be god s truth. >> that jury comes back and says guilty, what s that like? >> devastating. when you re innocent, it s devastating. >> innocent? yes. and so i hear from the warden that you got your bachelors in divinity. >> yes, sir. if i had to spend the rest of my life in here i want to use it for christ. >> throughout our talk he wore his christianity like a badge and like an accusation. >> i noticed that in the media they love to sensationalize any christians or people that claim to be christians that somehow they just they ve got it, there s some hidden secrets in their life. >> but your victims were christians too. >> saying you re a christian and being a christian are two different things. >> in other words you have to be totally honest? >> i don t think you have to be totally honest but i think there s things in your life that you ll exhibit whether christ is in your life or not. >> the evidence against him? he had answers for everything. like why he lied to the police when he said he wasn t looking at houses when in fact he was. >> i did deny in the interview because i felt like i was going to incriminate myself in the original interrogation. i did, however, share with my attorneys what had been going on. >> which was, he said, perfectly innocent research. >> looking at the different designs and things. for a long time we had talked about building a house, one of my friends from church had lived in a mobile home while he built a house on the back of his property. >> so we wondered, why did he behave in a way that terrified all those women who testified in court against him? >> you got to admit that was a pretty creepy thing to do. >> i don t know how creepy it is to look at houses or designs of houses. >> to tell people a whole shaggy dog tale about why you re there, to follow them around the house, to make them nervous. >> i preferred not to follow anybody through a house. they re the ones that want to show you the house so they tend to lead you. >> the rental agent he attacked and half strangled back in 1989. >> what do you have to say to a woman like her? >> okay, i don t remember her at all. i don t. >> and yet he actually confessed to attacking that woman back in 1989. and what about the witness so frightened by his visit to her house that she and her husband saved his license plate number? they kept the license number. >> they kept about four license plate numbers of people that looked at their house or wanted to look at their house without a realtor. >> not true, said darla davis. his license number was the only one they saved. i also asked him about his decision to take the pinstriping off his van, just then. he said that wasn t because police were looking for it but because it had been vandalizes. >> i was going to redo the pinstriping since i had originally put it on there. >> the zip ties police found wrapped around fencing on his property? they belonged to a friend, he said. and the statement by his wife janet that he would sometimes choke her during sex. >> i mean i will say that he does tend to put his hand on my neck. >> i never choked anybody. >> you choked your wife. >> no, i did not. >> she said you did. >> no, she didn t. >> she said you choked her as part of a sex act. that s how you had sex. >> that s not true. that s a manipulation of what she said. i m just telling you that s what she said. >> we reminded tony he d been married twice and in marriage number one same issue. but your ex-wife says you choked her. >> okay. >> and that s how you got sexual arousal. the only way you d get sexual arousal. >> i m not going to go into detail to embarrass her so i d rather not say anything about her. >> you know that s a tactic, don t you? i ve seen this done a thousand times. >> you can call it a tactic. >> if you ve got something to say about the woman, say it but don t do that where i m not going to say a bad thing about her because it would be mean to her. that s bs and you know it. >> well, under the world standards yeah that would be bs. but as a christian it s not. >> we asked about that pornographic website reporting to show the killing of asphyxiation of women. the one he had to register and pay for before he could access it. >> i cannot help that porn sites pop up on a computer. >> they don t pop up unless you look at some porn site. so there s an explanation for everything. >> there s a truth to everything. >> oh, yes, tony russo had an answer for everything. >> i am absolutely innocent and it disgusts me that every time you try to say you re innocent everybody says isn t that what everybody says? >> have you confessed the ultimate sin to god? >> what s the ultimate sin you re talking about? >> murder. >> if i had murdered someone i definitely would have. >> be you you say with your hands on your bible. >> i will die claiming my innocence and people can believe it or not believe it. i absolutely am innocent and i don t care how guilty i look. >> he couldn t convince any courts of that though. all his appeals failed. here he will stay. outside this institution, several women still struggle with the anxieties and fears and prisons of their own created by him. >> come back any time i get a call from a man that wants to see a house who is single. every time. i could have been a victim. i was an intended victim. that s a hard thing to think about. >> and they told us, the trauma lives on. though. >> it s comforting to know he s in there. that he can t hurt anybody else. >> they are sorority sisters of a sort who unwilling to live their lives as silent victims came together to help get tony russo off the street for good. >> we did our job and we got him convicted. >> so they did. this sisterhood. for the sake of a woman whose fate might have been theirs. diane holik. whose friends came together to remember how they miss her. even after all these years. >> she was a constant friend. she was in my life every day and all of a sudden she was gone in an instant like blowing a candle out. >> you see the smile on all these photographs. was she always smiling? >> always. always. >> she had a magic smile. it was infectious. if she was smiling everybody else had to. we had to. i m andrea canning, and this is dateline. andrea canning: it was one of the most harrowing days in our history. i hear
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g at five and why? why jersey?nt and then jus t the five feet back. and welcome to the five week back. we[applausthe five live in lancaster for what a way kick off this summer with this amazing crowd. i to give a shout out to t-mobile and empire retirement for sponsoringwe right guys i think we found our our people i mean jane cannot believe you pulled this out. this was all your idea, by the y. you thank you.>> we have a lot of fans, the jersey shore, and it s good tnso be first time.eanine: yeah, it s my first time. and i got to tell you, dana, i m following you from now on everyevery we now about greg that it s great to be here to work. yes. finally i get to casual i met got an actuaal casual friday you might you know this is for pride month. oh yeah thanksr the guys. all right, you know what? we honor them. we honorana: we you as well. vt so it wouldn t be a short visit without hitting up that boardwalkwithou behind us. and who better to guide us than the king of new jersey himself? the jersey shoreimself, , mike e situation sorrentino. we met him earlier. check it out stion swe met ou i got the crew, me, the judge, we ve got jesse watters. great. got that. we ve lost him somewhere. is too i can t find him. he s too short to ride the ride, so we don t knowo thea where he is right now. but we ll get there. but i m so glad that you came to the jersey shore. no tw, i ve never been here. tell me about it. this is point pleasant beach boardwalre, tellk. and this is all families. it s fun. what exactly were you going n. be doing toda at arey? ot well, as you can imagine,t thin i wanted to show you lots of different things, but i neededgseede to do my research i had to find this an expert, of course. but the bestexi go. t th do you want to meet him? let s go back. the situation thank you so much for meeting. >> like i said. how ar how s everything? what s up? everything. hi. how are you, love? here, come on. hi, how are you? well, guys, we a little bitsitut of a situation on our hands. in fact, we have a food situation. io follow. let s go.i lo yeah, this way. i love the chicken tendersve. all right, what do weve h have here, guys? >>l staples that would come when you come to the you c jersey shoreom. fried my gosh, we have fried oreos. we ore have pizzosa, have chickn tenders. chicken tenders. get here. here s i m going to because it s not one of those trendy stairs and he s got to stand. his shares, chairs, protein jes jersey, stand up. >> can we get some diese: ys, c? thank you. yes. yeah. thank caroline.caroli johnny. thank you. jesse. >> jesse.f the strawneank you. >> you got good hair. thank you very much. i ll be honest, he could probably on the jersey shore. heit s.like y >> and i get my haircut like,ouy you know, your hair looks great. i think we rour haate fueled upt right now, but i think it s time to step it up a notch. wellep i, good.ge jea we got some games. all right, let s go. let night,s go right here. right we have basketball and we her have football right next to it. i think we should probably have a little competition. oh, jesse. oh, my god. no warmups. oh, okay. oh, gosh. >> you get. all right. you just got it. it. have yout. have you ever done the hippos? i have. let s go. >> js go.. yeah. yeah. great. that s impossible. >> what time is that? it s tee shirts shirts. ! ready? >>. tee shirt >> yeah. yes, i know. this is the place to come. oh i, yeah. show us around the tee shirt. yes. what about gre >> judgeg? you get well, i found greg for d myself. i m going to go with this nices blue, but look what i got for greg. oh, are you ready?we >> because now that we gotsh our t-shirts covered, there irtt only one thing left for us to accomplish. what do we gotplish. ? we have rights. oh, hey, ready, guys? all right, ready? >> okay, now. you all right, guys, are you readytu for a situation? it s time for some rightation?? do it. wait a minute. we ve got the five. we haven t even prepped ye the i can t prepare. i ve got our folders. i ve got the checklist. b eight blocks. jesse, the. bll ta okayyour a seat situation. stop. it is your fault having in the building. all right, let s folde go. oh, my god. what s happening? oh oh, all right, guys, that win be complete at the jersey shore without takingoto. photo. a squad photo. let s go. >> ie. his selfi it s a great time indeed. and thank you, mike, the situation for being there. his book is just out . >> had him on his show. that s right. we got reality check. making the bes the rea t his situation. you see what he did there. little play on words. mike was greats beard but danat a shot underhand in the basket and judge jeanine set an all time record for the hungry. hungryl-time? 30, 30, 33, hungry hippo 32.>> l she said 32 to greg. i got you a t-shirt. g, i g hope iott fits the cute little one for you here at the jersey shore. that s beautiful the and i love that. but you know what? i n i look because whe at this situation and i see that he s gotten old. gotten t meanthat i m really o. i mean, remember, i mean, they ve gone from cocaine to calling skippy s from stds, ira, from beer to by focals.o y yes.ha do you have any more? now? you could probably keep itfor th going. you re the only one that prepared for the show, all right. no, i know harold. i know. you couldn t come to us. come with us to the t-shirt shopouldn t to. so i got you a t-shirt. it s called rock the boat, which is what you do wear all of it. >> i love rock and rol, harol lt was a great time. and then this is a lot of good, clean fun. harold, you could bring your kids. i got to telyours. i got to l you.first ti it s my first timee sh on the shore, and i didn t realize the people were this good. going to come back? yeah, boards are going to come back. so thank you. all right, well, let s. get little bit of news. up next, inflation causing a summer concert. cool su down with a major artist like jennifer lopez, even s amiding their tour reports of poor ticket sales as the average ticket cost at thskyward. e yo rockets hardest hit. jesse watters. are you sad jennifer lopez isn t goinnifeg to have a concel >> yeah j.lo and i go way back. she s with ben now and i m not t that upset about it. th our timee coul together. but i heard because she couldn t sell out in vegas. that sdn tn vega reason she s ni the tour. so i don t know if it s bad inflatios bideation, bn, but i years ago, all concerts were free because you just hajust hdo to a trump rally and they let you in. that s true. herald >> dan that s what do you think the economy is this sort of reflection of the economy? i don t know. on oi think there s so many man concerts and so many options that peopld optione have. you have all the festivals, you have individual concerts. so at some point there is a finite wallet. and i think that the way that the market works supply and demand, that s exactly what i m talking about saying that s what greg told me to sa. s whatyt on t . we got on the show. greg, what do you think? i mean, i don t know about concertshew.>> dana:. they ve changed a it s an excuse. the only reason why they cancele it d j-lo s tour wt they couldn t find a stadium big enough fortadium b her . thank you. hey, it s jersey. yeah. here s the deal. under america under joe biden has become a neighborhoojo ad that pricing everyone out. >> the only peopleev, the only people who can afford house in america are the rich or foreign rich coming here ords hedge funders buying up tons of houses else is screwed. by the way, inflation isn tting just affecting prices. it s also immigration. he s inflaterices. it immigrati. he s inflated crime, right? he s also inflated government control. ed goverentright by by targeting political opposition. and suppressing political speech. an pressin when you think it s h it s not just the price of food, it s the coste pric, your freedoms and the price of being an american, we ll be right back. >> we should buy. before we do, let s get a check in tonight. eager face heralds. of the he s got a cute face. so one of the things we know isi got hindm out today is kindf yo of expensive if you re buying toys for the kids. yeahare i was looking at that. i mean, even buying it.ac beach are simple things. t-shirts are expensive. is, y and the truth is that, you know, people don t want to payople don w inflated priceo to some of these concerts and know only the really good ones now are getting out of state. a stadiu ing a stm of fans. going so going forward, i mean, you rather watch it on tv or, you know, watch it like, like? s it what s your name? who does the concerts in the movie theater? taylor swift. taylor swift. theater >> danyou can watch insg $5,000 or $10,000 for a ticket, watch it on television. i would love that, because then i can press and go to the bathroom. all right, let s move a muscle, america. there s more summebathroom.move huge surprises and guests ahead to come on the vibes beach bash live from martell s tiki bar. up next, get ready for the f tiki trash trump aaigniv talk. donald trump and joe biden trading insults. we have moreoe right after bidel wek. reats. wek. reats. >> we ve never spoken, but you ve told us many things that love stargazing, hate, parallel parking and. occasionally, your right foot gets a little heavy. the lexus esv didn t begin in the studio. >> it began with you. you know what s crazy? this is better than cooking at home. i mean, more affordable than i mean, more affordable than groceries, of course. >> groceries are expensive. i thought i was in trouble i thought i was in trouble ther >> you are. >> and doug limbaugh. >> someone needs to customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. let s chief doug. >> oh, wow. i thought you were right behind . >> me? 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r this >> are you ready for this debate? yes. ye>> yess. president trump is hammeringbidn on the border crisis. >> we are so t weahek. the borders now. we were so strong. this guy goes to the beach he b all theathe. er wat you ever watch him in a bathingh suit? somebody told him he looks good. suit told hioh, joe, you look ga bathing suit. you know, you re 82 years old. you look he can t liftu ge the chair. the chair weighs about three. you knowhair., chairs, aluminum, hollow, aluminum. they weigh like they re builtm, for old people to lift and for children to lift. he can t lift. and that guilty verdict is not keeping trump down. new polling shows the formers t president is beating sleepy biden in arizona and florida and it s a dead heat in thegini. blue state of virginia. all right. so seeing as donald trump, harold is beating all those states, beating biden, do you think that biden is right when he says that donald trump is weak and pathetic? i hope that they are able to get to talking about the issuest at some point. i think they re major s between the two of them on trade. there s major differences on the economy. that deb i m interested in that debate for a lot of reasons. perhaps most important question is to get specifics on how do you lower food costs, how do you lower gas costs. mr. president, how do you thinkt should deal with reproductive rights for women across the countrcrosy. views i want both of them to be able to share their views and let the country choose. do think in a poll you just puts up a judge, jeanine, the fact there s only a four point difference in florida is really ann florid thing to me.esiden i thought president trump would be a far bigget p r in florida. this race is a 5050 race. this june 27 debate i thinkit will tip things a little bit in favor of whomever america thinks won that debate and then we ll all be lookinallg forward to the second one in a t august and maybe even a third one in september. wellhird you know, dana, you ret one who s great with all the numbers in the polls. what do you thin tk about what harold said? i think it s pretty interesting that virginia is tieaid?udge jek partly that s because governor glenn youngkin has revitalized the republicantalize party in virginia and he s also achieved results. and so people are at that. but i also think that that northern part of virginia makes it fool s gold for republicans sometimes. however, if biden having to spend money in virginia, that he s not able to spend all that money elsewhere. right. so that getsney else so that ti. the other thing is, is that biden cannot hold a news cycle ,he can t win a news cycle. he can go to france. he can t win a news cyclrance a and, you know, abc news did this big interview with him. they went that when he interviewed with zelenskyy, they go over, do a big interview with biden. it makes no news. it doesn t even make this intervieo news, doesw. make and friends with biden didn t even make the front page of their website. so i think in the lead up between now and the debate, wine trump is going to try to figure out a way to win every news cycle like he hacycle, ls been and that gets you that like hype, like leading up to theyo mike tysong up to . ake paul what s his name? jake paul, thank god. i was going to say john paul>> g but it was a pope. yes. okay. i like that you re going to have to hype it up and get ready. so i think this is the ramp up to that. hyper that is the rabut biden can t win aw cycle. you know, jesse, one of the things that donald trump has done is he has really criticizrumpe joe biden in this alleged securing the border executivise order. you know, do you think that the public is buying that jo te biden is securing the border with 1.8 million can still come 1. year. absolutely not. and if i m trump at the debate stage and hep at thestage me wy joe, the taliban told you whatw to do. i d say the the cartels telldo. you whatels tell do. you a i d say aoc boss is you around joe biden you re the weakest president we ve ever had in the history of the united states of americain the h. ol these border control policies that he just initiatedd they change the definition of fear. so you don t even have to safear y get scared in order to get asylum if you re just silentat as they interpret that as being scared and they let anou com and herald. this is not a 5050 race. joe biden is losing every single battleground state. >> and if you re tied in virginiiea, this is lookingnl like an absolute landslide. >>ide. he s four points ahead in florida, though, four points ahead in florida. he s up in all of the rust belt states that he needs to win up h in the sunbelt. he s up and he s going to win nevada. and now donald t trump is pickig off joe biden s base with young people, blacksbiden sp, hispanii joe biden s on the defensive big time. and donald trump is raisinden g boatloads of money. so now they re even in the word chess. think it s over? harold, you might as well just quit. you know you migh what, greg? do you know that theknow trump campaign raised $300milli million in may? take that one, harold, too. but in addition to that, i love ,though, harold. but in addition to that, greg, hoperuth is the democrats that the convicted felon moniker would put an f to donal trump. it doesn t mean a darn thing. ct well, i think they forgetthat s the mistake that the democrats have made is they ve abdicatedrc their as the victim. they were the victim party. they just madetheir the victim. what i think about this, ree we it s three weeks till the debate. ekwhat that in biden years. this guy is declining so fast. f ukrainase is sending him aid. but you know what? there s a there is a sense of existential dread among the democrats because they realize that america has gone from wanting change to deciding for change. it s like when you were a younge gu.y and you were dating a girl and you were selfish and uncaring she wanted to leave you. but then when she decide d was going to leave you, thenro you make the promises. thenmises. you you re going to change. then you say, oh, i m going to be differen tt. me, i don t leave me. please don t leave me. i ll chang le that, america. what the democrats have noticed is that their decision has been made. the americans want changein and they re looking at trump in a different way. thererene some people that arent crazy about him, but they realize biden is a bigger risk to the country than donald trump is a risk to your feelings. jeanine all right. all right. and a girl never left you, did she. nev a girl would never leave. coming up next, the medi leaame is totally in the bag forise ba the democrats. wait until you seeg for th whatt wing clown jimmy kimmel is leg to biden? 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yeah, yeah, yeah. you also get asked, look, the republicans don t play it square. >> why do you play square? it s like you re playingou with somebody who you know won t pass. h someonn tgo, won t follow anye rules. and how do you ever make any progress if? e rule they re not following the rules of the jail. you knows?ve got tnd them . >> they remove boxing the referee, the jail. nd >> and legendary democratic strategist james carville says the media needs to get tougher on president biden s opponent, formers president trump i don t have anything against slanted dt coverage. i really don t. i would have something against it. on the other most other timeshir in american history, but not right noy,right now. objectivity. [b of a teamo have in this country right now is we are going to have a constitution are we no atitut so, greg, your thoughts? jimmy kimmel and even the things that carville is saying is saying about president trump. but most important, we think and, jimmy kimmelabout ji what he s doing for the biden campaign. it s pretty strange to see, even though his show isn t watched by anybody, he s stillhi late night show host. could you imagine, jimmy, johnny carson, david letterman, jay leno, any of those people actually sending out a fundraising email? i mean, and also kimmel used to be host of the man show where he interviewed women in bikinis on trampolines. so he went from like t drooling over women on trampolines to shilling for a drooling man on a stretcher. >> it s strange, though. it is weird. it ihis old job of telling jokes is now being replaced bitfo by shilling for politicians. that s not his job. don t know how abc is okay with that. dana, you caw abc isn pick up ob if you want. but what about the carville point? he think he isout ? e is he right that there s there s that the media he believes is not questioning g trump enough? is that something that you feel thing th? at but i find that odd becauseesidn president trump is thet only talking to the media all the time. and even under a gag ordertime,a he talks more to the media than joe biden does. the josmore te hasn t even donen interview with the new york times . so i think that that is a little bitew york times , so to speak, besides the media. they just decide to write whatever they want about without even checking. and then the democrats freaked ou t. there was a story written by news reporters, the wall street journalrters of with 45ft different sources, all saying that joe biden has lost a step and they have it and the media goes nuts and they attaca goesk the reporters, instead of saying, yeah, we have a problem, i do think jimmy kimmel is kind of giving up on getting ratings because any of those previous comedians that gregg mentioned, they would have been reaching sato trump campaign and they would have said, let sid go, let s have him let s have you on my show. and i think trump would do it absolutely. and that way, that s how you get ratings. that s to me, i feel like just given uppitow and going. but the biden team seems to want to recreate what hillary clinton tried in 2016 with their raw campaign . i m going to let it roar. right. and so she s got all the celebritie aign, th s and didn t work.s bi but it s biden s safest place. like he doesn t want to go in toodece.no. en events in new hampshire, evenle because only 30 people showed up in new jersey pointed out 12 of them were staffers. soe staf i find that all a littt odd. i do wish that more of them would do in-dept h interviews.nd i think that biden s sitting down and doing the time magazine interview time magaz,e everybody should read that for themselves. d and theld be rea transcript, audio should be released. got your thought releass and your you thi thoughts on whether or not president trump, you think he would acceptmy kim jimmy kimmel invitation to debate joe biden in a late night settingme like that? donald trump would go into the lion s and poke the lion. he s willing to go anywhere atn, any time. eddie howe okay, sohis wo jimmy kimmel s the least of his worries. but i got to telbut i ve gotl ye you hear carville say something liy thisare goobjectivit country now is either we re going to have a constitution or we re noine t, which i think is really incredible, given the fact that the democrat were the ones who suppressed free speech, who suppress the firstme amendment during the 2020 election, whennt anthony blinken got 52 so-called intel, cee guys took him out and say the laptop, which is now a central piece in a criminall case against hunter biden, wascs russian disinformation. democr the democrats should not talk deout the constitutionat t becae they re the ones who ve been destroying it at every stestp. n i have a slightly different opinion about that. but jesse, what art jesse,e your about this? >> well, because joe biden needs a lo about te joe t more e donald trump does. joe biden needs kimmel. s.he bill clinton, he needs barack obama. he needs clooney to raise money. donald trump can throw a fundraiser mp can t and, raise 50 million just by himself. and if we were at fox and greg tried to throw a fundraiser for donald trump, wow, they de four have to call the show the four. i mean, he would be out of here. so. be they would never allow tha. and then for carville to say that they need to be tougher, how much more tougher can the medihre tough meda be on tr? 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i the torch is going to come out to the side. it as i down, i throw mt as enter the water to not get tangled. i swim, swim, swimtangled, swi. once i get five yards out, i get a hand on my handlete. i put it in front of jesse. i say, don t grab me, grab this float, because we don t want a panicking victim to drown the the lifeguard in the process. what if i want to grab you? well, we ll talk about that late be r. i m a married man, jesse. all right, so i put my arm i am, right and then g i start stroke came to kick until we get to safetyet. >> just like that now. well done, boy. i get brown around him. okaylause.u very. thank you very much. now, have you noticed i? brought three torpedoes here. so i d like you guys to give this a tryhis . ctim so i ll be a victim.judge je and i want maybe judge jeanine and dana. could you guys can y be victims and see if the guys can try to rescue you? we d love to tryyod love t that. >> okay. i guess. do we have to choose which one we want to rescue? it s totallywhich on res to you totally up to you. all right, try. >> up to y a drowning. victim. you re going to grab that strap. you re going to put it over your shoulde going strr.ap i so it s across your chest. i m drowning. soross not too bad.it >> that s better. now you re going to come. you re going to throw it out? grabfor any of the side of you . >> right. you re going to hand me the tour. say, don t grab me, grab this floais. t this.>> dana. that s okay. and now you re going to start showin ag the back to safety.ro fantastic. greg, you let me drown. sorry. >> gy. awnkay. >> i have a question. sure. you guys have diy policies fo. lifeguard guys have d i ve noticed a lack of diversity. no plus size lifeguards. ll >> you noticed this? i was actually thinner in my yo but not £2ed tha that i know about situation. but it s awesomet. that you guyn are up here. >> we really. how many times a year would you have to do one of these? last year wetorpedoe had 590 orr rescues. >> yeah, not me personally, but i di d learn how to swim.ne: so >> so how many lifeguards do you have here? have about 100. ove a little over 100 lifeguards. wow. well, over my beacr 10h, 15 lifeguard stands. and this is one of the busiest in the jersey shore. we re very crowded, very busy. >> wow. all right. now, janine, he s not going to you mouth to mouth no matter how much you say nmouth-too i gt harold, and he saved me. he decides who decides who to b save. >> like you re all at the beach. there s you see somebodyeach,set there? is there like a taking turns thing? no. >> aarere sittin g with your partner, you would identify someone who s in trouble. >> but what if you re on lunch? what if you re having lunch and there s somebody there? >> you know, it s like you re. you re on your break. yeah. during lunch break, somebody goes off and somebody else comes on. we rotate on, rotateebod off. >> keep everybody fresh. yeah. all right. well, thank you guys very muchgr . we got fan mail.t fa next thing. >> you guys, that was fish in the i don t care if we ever come that. on i love fishing one day and now through june 14th save 10% on that favorite gift specia l day gift cards bass pro chefs and cabela s. >> these bills are crazy. >> she has no idea all o she s sitting on a goldmine. well, she doesn t knowr if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more. she ca n all or part of it to coventry for cash, even a term policy, even term goldm policy. >> even our policyine. call. >> find out if you re sitting on a gold mine. call coventry direct today at 804 nine six 9200 or visit coventry direct, icom. >> most guys get serious airbags as they get older, but most guys don t do anything about it because guys don t really understand skin care. >> they it s too expensive and they don t believe that anything actually works. >> but here s the thing most guys are wrong because there are actually a few ways to reduce air bags. and one of the easiest particles, six and one face cream actually works really well. and most guys actually can afford it because it s six and one formula means you re getting six products packed into one. just wash your face and then massage and particle for 30 seconds. >> before you know it, you re looking younger than, well, most guys. >> but forget about most guys. >> just be you got a younger version of you you can order right now as part of medcom. >> we ve got shipping in the united states plus a 30 day money back guarantee. >> tonight, calling out the president. elise stefanik breaks down a slow network is no network for business. that s why more choose comcast business. and now, we re introducing ultimate speed for business —our fastest plans yet. we re up to 12 times faster than verizon, at&t, and t-mobile. and existing customers could even get up to triple the speeds... at no additional cost. it s ultimate speed for ultimate business. don t miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. call today! so we are american made from beginning to end shop now at show allegiance .com you it is a fan mail friday live from martell s tiki bar at the jersey shore. mathe first question is a doozyn all right. this is from zac iozy!h. you are traveling with a friend. you get picked for a freyou gee upgrade to first class. do you leave your friend or significant other behind and take the upgrader be? we already know what jess is going to say, so let s . t him out of the way jesse, you would abandon your own child for first class yo it s a friendil, you definitely take the upgrade. taket s a spouse, you definitely take the upgrade . judge what would say>> greg: yoy you know, i initially thought i would probably do it, but you know what, if i had a friend who wasn t normally in first fi i would give it to my friend, i really would. liar. so i m i know i his maker s in and liberal but harold. yes, harold. you only fly private so thisso makes no sense to you. you limousine liberas no sl. you make me sick to my stomach. i ve beeoln give ud: ip my prive and my first class. any friend, any any prime member. every time, every time.>> dan all right, dana, i don t knoa:w who these people are. i m definitely takine pegth the upgrade. you re taking the upgrade. does it really matter? you just kind of go into the baggage compartmene upgradd yeah, i mean, that s. i always get upgraded. yes, exactly i. all right. second question. this is a great question. a greawhat tv show was canceledo early that you would like to see come back. jesse, would it be the o rileybh ? we had a good run.ad a goo greg i would say live pd. i love live pd. e go they canceled it during the summer of love and they got to bring iringt back. watch dana i watched the show on netflix from australia called offspring so good,en sea but there were only seven seasons and it really could have gone longerso. me wow, she picked one from australia. harold todd the i like idris elba. i thought when they canceled , i wish wer a few had a few more. and diff rent strokes are different for different folks. judge there s a show called lioness that harold is cominness --g back to back. so my wish has been granted. you know what? i thinnted. you knok they shoulr baywatch. >> oh, don t even go there. read back all the originals b with new implants, huh? and it could be at the billy jest at the village. the village is lake. w oh, god.e with the alligators. yes, exactly. you have to fight. what was the what was your reaction when you first saw yourself on television, y gh dana? oh, my gosh. i do remember one time they playe, i doer one td back a and i blink a lot, way too muchl . you re like a hostage sending a message. yeahik. you re doing morse code right now. please get me out. help me. helpmorse code rig.ana: hel me.g >>dge. i remember the first time i wase on it was the today show, and the driver got los dt. so there was no hair or no makeup. i looked like nightmare.t fo i didn t come out for, like, a week after that.d? oh, carol, i like that look, i had a bad hairstyle. i had a part in my head. and i remember that part i had i to get rid of that doggone thing. yeah, terrible. that was a good move on your part. thanible. k you, sir. thank you, sir. see what i did there? all right, there jesse. so i was 13 and they interviewed me during the milli vanilli scandal. s wow. and i was at aat a f footlocker in philly. , i sa and so they interviewed me. i said my piece, and i told goin i m going to be watch, on tv tonight. mom and dad, you got to watch. and then we waited for the anden they showed me. my vthen a old lady s voice wans dubbed over my voice like milli vanilli. >> wow. li one of the first time i saw myself on tv, i thought, wow, who this good looking guy? of course you did. yeah. all right, we have time for another. okay. what s okay the worst thing to heat up in an office? a break room, microwavbreak roeh and don t say jesse s hair, dana. >> dana: fish,iously but i m going to give you another tip. if you ever cook cauliflower in a microwave and burn it, you will be to another country.e judge that you shouldn t put in a microwave in the office. yeah, i don t know. i don t cook in the microwave in the officthe ofe. >> somebody else does it.>> jud i don t go, i don t go in that room. fihawhat would you like what el. that i know what s fish smells bad. what else is new. new jesse. indian food. >> gy. >> oh, boy. oh but bull. oh, let s go.! brandon. way, way to get out of troublesl . i was close. harold, did i ask? 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