having a really experienced player at the top table is a good move. i look forward to working with him in the months to come.— look forward to working with him in the months to come. suella braverman sacked as home _ the months to come. suella braverman sacked as home secretary _ the months to come. suella braverman sacked as home secretary this - sacked as home secretary this morning, as was possibly expected. what is your reaction to that is? there are lots of people in the conservative party not very happy now. it will have a job on his hands keeping the rights of the party on his site? he keeping the rights of the party on his site? , , , his site? he is strengthening his team. it his site? he is strengthening his team- it is _ his site? he is strengthening his team. it is important _ his site? he is strengthening his team. it is important that - his site? he is strengthening his team. it is important that we - his site? he is strengthening his l team. it is important that we work as a team to work on the priorities. those are the country's priorities. i welcomed the appointments he has announced. we'll see more of them later on today, but it is about strengthening the team and delivering the prime minister's priorities and endure the conservative parliamentary party will rally behind, make those arguments in the months to come, and make those arguments for the country. make those arguments for the count . a ~ make those arguments for the count . ~ ., , ., country. mark harper, the transport secreta , country. mark harper, the transport secretary, reacting _ country. mark harper, the transport secretary, reacting to _ country. mark harper, the transport secretary, reacting to david - secretary, reacting to david cameron's return to front line politics as foreign secretary. if we will break away from number ten very briefly as there is another big story happening on the other side of london, that is five people have died and one person unaccounted for after our fire died and one person unaccounted for after ourfire at a died and one person unaccounted for after our fire at a house in west hounslow. ten fire engines were called to the fire in hounslow on sunday evening. for more on this weekend i speak to my colleague, he is in hounslow for us. what more can you tell us about this tragedy? i am at the location _ you tell us about this tragedy? i am at the location of _ you tell us about this tragedy? i —n at the location of where the fire ripped through a house. you can play particularly well from here because the police cordon is quite a way away from where it is. this is where the incident happened. ten fire engines and 70 firefighters were called out atjust before 10:30pm last night. it took three hours for the fire to be brought under control. that involved fire crews from around the surrounding area. when fire crews arrived they found that five people, believed to be members of the same family, were found dead on the first floor. a sick person is still unaccounted for. another person was fined and picked up as they left the building by london ambulance service. that person is still in hospital. nearby properties last night were evacuated as a precaution and throughout this morning we have seen some people able to get through the cord and to return home, but the properties on either side of the building had to be evacuated and families are still unable to return. fire investigators are working here at the scene, including forensic teams. i have been told that the investigation could go on for days, or even longer. i understand that people here will be at the scene potentially for the rest of the week as they try to establish the cause of the fire. a local mp has said that among the dead were children, though at this stage we are still waiting to establish further facts about the people involved. what we do know is that the building was so badly damaged by the fire, with the first floor and the ground floor and part of the roof damage, that it is structurally unsound. i have been told that some fire crews were hurt entering the building, which is why no one is able to go in at the moment. they are trying to make the building safe to enter so crews can return. at this stage, families nearby unable to return at the moment and an investigation is under way. moment and an investigation is under wa . ~ ., moment and an investigation is under wa , ~ ., ., moment and an investigation is under wa . ~ ., ., ., moment and an investigation is under wa .~ ., ., ., ., moment and an investigation is under wa. ., ., ., ., ., way. what more, if at all, do we know about _ way. what more, if at all, do we know about the _ way. what more, if at all, do we know about the five _ way. what more, if at all, do we know about the five victims? - way. what more, if at all, do we know about the five victims? as | way. what more, if at all, do we| know about the five victims? as i said, know about the five victims? as i said. details _ know about the five victims? as i said, details have _ know about the five victims? e; i said, details have not know about the five victims? is i said, details have not emerged yet about the five members who are believed to be of the same family who were victims of this fire. we haven't had more details released about them, but as i said, a local mp has said that children are among the dead members of that family, as it is being reported. at this stage they have not been named locally so there is still more we need to awaits for information about that. in terms of the cause of the fire, that has not been established yet, but the london fire brigade commissioner has said that his thoughts are with people affected and he has offered his condolences to people here, and also there is welfare and counselling support being provided to the fire crews who attended the scene. i asked about whether that was standard and i was told it isn't always necessary, but on this occasion it was a particular priority for the grizzly attended the scene here. it was a huge effort by crews to tackle the fire. ten fire engines from all around this part of west london and 70 firefighters taking three hours to bring the fire under control, and they did sojust bring the fire under control, and they did so just before 1:30am. thank you. ijoin you from downing street. it has been quite the morning. it began as suella braverman was sacked by rishi sunak as home secretary. just before i got to downing street, the security said to me, you havejust missed something very interesting, and of course it was the arrival of former british prime minister david cameron who was seen walking up the street. a real surprise return to british politics. he is now of course the uk's foreign secretary. as a former prime minister, he hasn't really been in the headlines that much. he has been much more behind—the—scenes than other former prime ministers like borisjohnson or theresa may. we saw him leave the black door behind me, crossed over the street to go to the foreign office, which isjust over the route from here, to take up his new role. james cleverly now replaces suella braverman at the home office and a bit of musical chairs. he has no left the foreign office to take up debris. earlier, ispoke left the foreign office to take up debris. earlier, i spoke to a former special adviser at the home office to get her reaction. this special adviser at the home office to get her reaction.— to get her reaction. this has not been the start _ to get her reaction. this has not been the start to _ to get her reaction. this has not been the start to a _ to get her reaction. this has not been the start to a monday - to get her reaction. this has not - been the start to a monday morning i think any of us expected. without the reshuffle was going to come today. i don't think many of us saw it coming before 9am in the morning, but it is a significant start with suella braverman being the top casualty of the day and also that reintroduction of david cameron back into the government. i think this is signs of a major reshuffle, whereas before we have only seen something that lingers around the edges. this is a big shake—up of the top team around the prime minister heading towards another general election. what do you think the mood is likely to be in the home office right now? it is always difficult when you lose a minister or a home secretary. the department has to get used to the new person come again. i think that james cleverly is a very good person to have in the home office. he is a conciliar tory person with members of the party on the backbenches, so i think this is very sensible. it'll be interesting to see if other positions going to be reshuffled or he will keep the team currently there. throughout the day we will see whetherjunior positions will come up on offer and what shape the team will be in by the end of the day. i think he is a very sensible person to have heading up the home office. who did you advise when you're the home office? i was the adviser to caroline nokes, the minister for immigration and adviser to caroline nokes, the ministerfor immigration and amber rods and also sajid javid, who were home secretary is under my time, and theresa may was prime minister. it was a very different world back then. ~ ., ., ,, ~' was a very different world back then. ~ ., ., ,, ~ was a very different world back then. ~ ., ., ~ . ., then. what do you think may change we have gone _ then. what do you think may change we have gone from _ then. what do you think may change we have gone from suella _ then. what do you think may change i we have gone from suella braverman, who courted a lot of headlines in the year or so she was in office, versus james cleverly? i the year or so she was in office, versus james cleverly?- the year or so she was in office, versus james cleverly? i think it is auoin to versus james cleverly? i think it is going to be _ versus james cleverly? i think it is going to be a _ versus james cleverly? i think it is going to be a very _ versus james cleverly? i think it is going to be a very different - versus james cleverly? i think it is going to be a very different tone. l going to be a very different tone. it feels that the party is moving more towards a centrist position and i think that we will see fewer inflammatory statements coming out from james cleverly. he has done a very good job as home secretary. he understands that diplomatic tone genie to take on the world stage. i think that this will be very interesting, especially when we look at the rwanda decision, which is going to come through from the courts this week, then what the government will do with that information, whichever way it goes, and how they will tackle especially the migrant crisis that we have, but also the bigger interests around policing and the manner in which the police are dealing with protests, which will be ongoing. i think he has a very, very big job. it is not easy, but i think his tone will be much more conciliatory than we have previously seen. {line much more conciliatory than we have previously seen-— previously seen. one of the triggers for the second _ previously seen. one of the triggers for the second this _ previously seen. one of the triggers for the second this morning - previously seen. one of the triggers for the second this morning was - previously seen. one of the triggers for the second this morning was of. for the second this morning was of course suella braverman's article in the times newspaper which openly criticised the metropolitan police. when you saw that, what did you think of that article, do you think it overstepped the mark? yes. think of that article, do you think it overstepped the mark?- think of that article, do you think it overstepped the mark? yes, it was ill-advised- — it overstepped the mark? yes, it was ill-advised. n— it overstepped the mark? yes, it was ill-advised. it is _ it overstepped the mark? yes, it was ill-advised. it is quite _ it overstepped the mark? yes, it was ill-advised. it is quite right _ it overstepped the mark? yes, it was ill-advised. it is quite right to - ill—advised. it is quite right to question the police on how they manage protesters and protests because we have seen the behaviour from the police is not being the greatest. they have let themselves down on a number of occasions, one of them being the sarah everard protest, were people were treated appallingly. it is right that the question how they deal with these protests and marches, but i don't think it is right to have put that information out into a national newspaper. that is something you need to discuss with the chief of police and prime minister separately, then you hold the police to account. bring it out into the open, especially if it has not been cleared in full by number ten was a really bad move.— really bad move. before we let you ro, really bad move. before we let you no, if ou really bad move. before we let you go. if you were _ really bad move. before we let you go. if you were in _ really bad move. before we let you go, if you were in the _ really bad move. before we let you go, if you were in the home - really bad move. before we let you go, if you were in the home office| go, if you were in the home office right now setting across the table from james cleverly, what would you be advising him? i from james cleverly, what would you be advising him?— be advising him? i would be advising him to hopefully _ be advising him? i would be advising him to hopefully have _ be advising him? i would be advising him to hopefully have some - be advising him? i would be advising him to hopefully have some good - him to hopefully have some good people around him. there are special advisers who are pretty sensible and pretty robust. it is a very difficult department, but one of the most rewarding department you can work in. he has a really toughjob, he needs to get a grip on immigration and look sensibly across the globe at how you can make that happen. the globe at how you can make that ha . en. the globe at how you can make that hauen. ., the globe at how you can make that ha..en_ ., , happen. some reaction has been cominu in happen. some reaction has been coming in already _ happen. some reaction has been coming in already to _ happen. some reaction has been coming in already to the - happen. some reaction has been coming in already to the main i coming in already to the main appointments of the day. to discuss those earlier i spoke to former tory minister and shadow home secretary ann widdecombe. {iii minister and shadow home secretary ann widdecombe.— ann widdecombe. of course, the appointment _ ann widdecombe. of course, the appointment of — ann widdecombe. of course, the appointment of david _ ann widdecombe. of course, the appointment of david cameron i ann widdecombe. of course, the i appointment of david cameron has swept suella braverman of the front pages, taken all the focus which would have been on her and her sacking and has focused things on the cameron appointment, so from that point of view it is quite clever. beyond that, i think rishi sunak has no stored up some trouble for himself. we knew that david cameron believes in, we know he was a passionate remainer and i don't think that the large section of the tory party will not be terribly happy at what has happened. it would have been more clever... what happy at what has happened. it would have been more clever. . ._ happy at what has happened. it would have been more clever... what do you think the reaction _ have been more clever. .. what do you think the reaction will— have been more clever... what do you think the reaction will be _ have been more clever... what do you think the reaction will be to _ have been more clever... what do you think the reaction will be to suella - think the reaction will be to suella braverman's sacking by her supporters in the conservative party? it supporters in the conservative pa ? , ., ., supporters in the conservative pa ? , . ., ., . party? it will cause a lot of anger. i can party? it will cause a lot of anger. i can think — party? it will cause a lot of anger. i can think of _ party? it will cause a lot of anger. i can think of lots _ party? it will cause a lot of anger. i can think of lots of _ party? it will cause a lot of anger. i can think of lots of reasons - party? it will cause a lot of anger. i can think of lots of reasons for. i can think of lots of reasons for sacking sue weller, mostly being that she has never once delivered on her promises, like stop the boats, which never happened. i can think of lots of reasons for losing confidence in sue weller, but not that excellent article, i thought, that excellent article, i thought, that reflected the views of so many people, whose reaction would have been thank goodness that somebody in government set at last. i think her supporters are going to be very angry and they will not be mollified by the arrival of cameron. do angry and they will not be mollified by the arrival of cameron.— by the arrival of cameron. do you think that article _ by the arrival of cameron. do you think that article was _ by the arrival of cameron. do you think that article was a _ by the arrival of cameron. do you think that article was a good - by the arrival of cameron. do you | think that article was a good idea, but there were many, including in the metropolitan police who, were really incensed by it. i’m the metropolitan police who, were really incensed by it.— really incensed by it. i'm sure the olice really incensed by it. i'm sure the police were _ really incensed by it. i'm sure the police were incensed _ really incensed by it. i'm sure the police were incensed by - really incensed by it. i'm sure the police were incensed by it - really incensed by it. i'm sure the| police were incensed by it because it was a very critical article of the police, but i think they fully deserved what she was saying. you can argue about some of the phraseology, but that is not the point. the essence of what she was saying i believe was right, and it doesn't sound as if downing street were rejecting that article, they were rejecting that article, they were requiring some rephrasing in places, which means they much have approved the rest of the article, so i don't have a problem with that, i think it is time to challenge the police, really time to challenge them. there arejob police, really time to challenge them. there are job as not to police causes, therejob is to keep us all safe. and what do you make about the return of david cameron, did you ever expect to see him back in a big governmentjob? ida. ever expect to see him back in a big government job?— ever expect to see him back in a big governmentjob?— government “ob? no, and as i said, it is all government “ob? no, and as i said, it is an very — government job? no, and as i said, it is all very fine _ government job? no, and as i said, it is all very fine he _ government job? no, and as i said, it is all very fine he has _ government job? no, and as i said, it is all very fine he has now- it is all very fine he has now managed to take votes away from suella and that was a clever move, but i don't actually think he is the best choice as foreign secretary and if you look at the statement he has issued if you can bear to read it all because it goes on and on and on, it is all about himself and how wonderful he
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