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BBCNEWS Verified July 2, 2024



police. that cordon right of the shot in the villages, some ten minutes away from the town of porthmadog. throughout the day we had officers come and go. within the last half hour to three quarters of an hour we've seen a recovery vehicle entering that police cordon. we first got note from north wales police last night saying they are searching for the whereabouts of four young jevon hirst boys so that we understand their names are harvey owen, wilf henderson, hugo morris, and. as a days gone on we've had more information and we understand they've travelled from the shop trial area to north wales for a camping activity, so many people do in this area. they travelled here on the sunday, a concern for their whereabouts were raised. in the last half hour we have had further details from north wales police confirming that tragic event that they did find four bodies in a ford fiesta, silver, they have been looking for. let's have a bit more from superintendent of the police department. from superintendent of the police department-— department. shortly after 3pm of monday the _ department. shortly after 3pm of monday the 20th _ department. shortly after 3pm of monday the 20th of _ department. shortly after 3pm of monday the 20th of november i department. shortly after 3pm of. monday the 20th of november north wales_ monday the 20th of november north wales police received reports of four missing young males from the shrewsberry area. it is believed there _ shrewsberry area. it is believed there have travelled from harlow on saturday _ there have travelled from harlow on saturday the 18th with plans to camp in the _ saturday the 18th with plans to camp in the area _ saturday the 18th with plans to camp in the area on sunday. a large search— in the area on sunday. a large search was_ in the area on sunday. a large search was undertaken overnight and i into this _ search was undertaken overnight and i into this morning. shortly after 106m _ i into this morning. shortly after 106m this — i into this morning. shortly after 10am this morning a member of the public— 10am this morning a member of the public contacted us reporting a vehicle — public contacted us reporting a vehicle having left the road between the villages. police officers attended and located a ford fiesta vehicle _ attended and located a ford fiesta vehicle upside down, partially submerged in water. tragically, the bodies _ submerged in water. tragically, the bodies of— submerged in water. tragically, the bodies of four young males were recovered — bodies of four young males were recovered from within the vehicle. the families of the missing men have been informed. our thoughts are with them at _ been informed. our thoughts are with them at this— been informed. our thoughts are with them at this desperate time. whilst them at this desperate time. whilst the search— them at this desperate time. whilst the search has concluded there is an ongoing _ the search has concluded there is an ongoing inquiry into the formal identity— ongoing inquiry into the formal identity of those in the vehicle and to understand what has led to this tragic— to understand what has led to this tragic incident. would like to take this opportunity to publicly thank members of the emergency services, voiunteers— members of the emergency services, volunteers from the search agencies, members _ volunteers from the search agencies, members of— volunteers from the search agencies, members of the public who supported us with— members of the public who supported us with this _ members of the public who supported us with this search. finally, i do ask that — us with this search. finally, i do ask that the families are afforded privacy— ask that the families are afforded privacy at — ask that the families are afforded privacy at this desperate time. thank— privacy at this desperate time. thank you. privacy at this desperate time. thank yam— privacy at this desperate time. thank yon-— privacy at this desperate time. thank ou. ., ., . ., , thank you. that was north wales police. we've _ thank you. that was north wales police. we've heard _ thank you. that was north wales police. we've heard from - thank you. that was north wales police. we've heard from the - police. we've heard from the local counsellor who said that the community there was in complete shock. just talk to us about how the community has reacted to this news and equally the search that preceded it. , , , . ., and equally the search that preceded it. ,, , . and equally the search that preceded it. this is very much a close knit community- _ it. this is very much a close knit community- i'm _ it. this is very much a close knit community. i'm from _ it. this is very much a close knit community. i'm from this - it. this is very much a close knit community. i'm from this local. it. this is very much a close knit - community. i'm from this local area here and it's very much a welsh speaking heartland where everybody knows each other for that we're some ten minutes from the town of porthmadog. a very rural village, people know each other. i think the counsellor summarising the feeling for that we've heard local people from the community coming down throughout the day, looking at what's happening but very heartfelt condolences being paid within the last half hour. i'm sure they will continue. we talked earlier about the cordon that's been put up by north wales police at the back. obviously, we understand around a mile away from where they have found the car. more detail coming into us from that north wales police press conference from the superintendent saying that officers came across a ford fiesta overturned and partially submerged in water, just those finer details coming in within the last few minutes. i made reference earlier on to the four boys few minutes. i made reference earlier on to the four bostevon hirst harvey owen, wilf henderson, hugo morris, and. understood to have travelled for a camping exercise. something so many people do for we talk about this location in a geographical sense we're in the national park and weather is a continuing factor for people who live and visit this area. we know sunday night into monday there was significant rainfall. that does bring with it its challenges. as we heard the statement from the superintendent confirming the worst and as we mentioned, the community and as we mentioned, the community and the wider area are really feeling it today.— and the wider area are really feeling it today. and the wider area are really feelin: it toda . . ., ~' feeling it today. liam, thank you so more on the — feeling it today. liam, thank you so more on the website. _ feeling it today. liam, thank you so more on the website. professor- feeling it today. liam, thank you so l more on the website. professor chris whitty has been giving evidence to the covid—i9 inquiry. he said from the covid—i9 inquiry. he said from the beginning of the pandemic all the beginning of the pandemic all the options were very bad and some were a bit worse. he told the inquiry that with the benefit of hindsight he went in a bit too late. he also said that yuki had no pre—existing pandemic strategy to deal with covid. —— pre—existing pandemic strategy to dealwith covid. —— uk. pre—existing pandemic strategy to deal with covid. —— uk. the plan may not even be possible to hinder tackling the virus. it not even be possible to hinder tackling the virus.— tackling the virus. if there had been a plan — tackling the virus. if there had been a plan and _ tackling the virus. if there had been a plan and i _ tackling the virus. if there had been a plan and i will- tackling the virus. if there had been a plan and i will cause i tackling the virus. if there had . been a plan and i will cause some upset to my planning colleagues but i'll do it anyway, i'll plan that was laid out, this is how the playbook should run it would almost certainly have been the wrong plan and could even of slowed us down. we would then spend ages arguing about whether this was the right plan, adopting the plan. sometimes it is easier to start with a new plan. what we needed was all the building blocks. in my view we had some of the building blocks intellectually and practically but we definitely did not have all. they were constructed in many cases in quite a rush in february and march. the lead counsel for— rush in february and march. the lead counsel for the _ rush in february and march. the lead counsel for the inquiry _ rush in february and march. the lead counsel for the inquiry ask _ counsel for the inquiry ask professor woody about the burden placed on him and sir patrick vallen to give evidence yesterday to relate vast amounts of information to the government and what he called side meetings. in government and what he called side meetinus. . . , government and what he called side meetinus. ., ., , ., . meetings. in a fast moving pandemic the principal— meetings. in a fast moving pandemic the principal aim _ meetings. in a fast moving pandemic the principal aim is _ meetings. in a fast moving pandemic the principal aim is to _ meetings. in a fast moving pandemic the principal aim is to be _ the principal aim is to be accurate and be fast. i think that the big advantage we had and i would like to pay tribute to sir patrick because i thought he was extraordinary on this was having both of us meant that one of us had inadvertently relayed information in the way that were misunderstood you could sometimes see this happening in both directions. there was another person to say, agree with sir patrick in my case or me or however like to clarify the following points. i think that mechanism of having two people who are relatively wide reading sizes able to check one and others recollection and onward relay, i think did provide some degree of innocence error prevention in the transmission of information. ifully in the transmission of information. i fully accept that in a less frantically paste system there are better ways you could do it and of course much more convenient to a subsequent inquiry because it's all written down. of course it wasn't at that time. a, written down. of course it wasn't at that time. . , .., written down. of course it wasn't at that time. . , ., ., that time. a significant portion of toda 's that time. a significant portion of today's questioning _ that time. a significant portion of today's questioning was - that time. a significant portion of today's questioning was around i today's questioning was around modeling. professor woody explained theissues modeling. professor woody explained the issues of explaining covid models to the public versus using clear facts. models to the public versus using clearfacts. i models to the public versus using clear facts— clear facts. i thought sir patrick did an excellent _ clear facts. i thought sir patrick did an excellent job _ clear facts. i thought sir patrick did an excellent job of- clear facts. i thought sir patrick did an excellent job of laying i clear facts. i thought sir patrick| did an excellent job of laying out did an excellentjob of laying out our discomfort at trying to explain models in very short form press briefings. they have to come rightly with large numbers of caveats. what inevitably happens with models unfortunately, you can't actually argue with the number of people going into hospital and the number of sadly dying. you can argue with the model. they tended to become a way in which both sides of a polarised debate tended to have their debate with some people saying, this is all made up its exaggerated, it'sjust modelling in the modelling is exaggerated. another group saying the modelling are showing terrible itself. the models tended to become the focus for the debates between people who had strong opposing views because they were more debatable. also because they weren't fully understood. a large number of people debating them in public were doing so essentially, they had a position he wanted to advance the top they were going to use the model to advance their position almost whatever the model showed. i think this demonstrates that trying to use modelling outputs in public discourse has to be done with care. it doesn't mean it shouldn't be done but great care whereas using actual data is much easier, everyone can understand it. and test whether it's true or not. if it's true you can then at least interpret it. that's why personally, ifar then at least interpret it. that's why personally, i far preferred and if you see my presentations of data i tried were possible only to use either existing data or data with very short term reaction because i thick it's easier to explain. professor chris whitty giving evidence of the course of today. we will have an analysis from a political correspondent later in half hour. let's look at one of the days of the leading stories. the us says there is a "tentative deal for the release of hostages" in gaza but it's not yet finalised. a short time ago president biden said "things are looking good at the moment". israel's prime minister is convening his war cabinet now to discuss the details of the possible agreement. benjamin netanyahu says "progress" is being made and he hopes to have good news soon. the leader of hamas, ismail haniyeh, has also said his group is close to agreeing what he called a truce with israel. the plan is being mediated by qatar. let's get the latest on israel's war with hamas with this report from nick beake. ismail haniyeh, the head of hamas. he claims a deal with israel is nearly there. it's raised hopes that some hostages will soon be freed during what would be a pause in the fighting in gaza. it can't come soon enough for the families of the kidnapped, nor for the two million gazans who've been under bombardment for six weeks. the un says 12 people were killed yesterday at the indonesian hospital. the israeli military said it returned fire after being attacked from within the hospital. the medical director described to us the scene today. we have no water. we have no food. the israeli army surround the hospital. but for america, which has been involved in the talks, there is also growing hope that some sort of deal is being finalised. mr president, is it a hostage deal near? i believe so but i'm not prepared to talk. you believe so? yes. how soon? a white house official went further. we believe we're closer than we've ever been, so we're hopeful. but there's still work to be done and nothing is done until it's all done. so we're going to keep working on this. the families of the hostages say they don't yet know the details of the negotiations. many have argued the israeli government should have focused more on bringing home their loved ones rather than destroying hamas. taking down hamas, we keep hearing from them it's going to take months or years and it's going to take a long time. on the other hand, the other objective is time—sensitive. people are dying. the united nations says some sort of ceasefire is urgently needed. this was the aftermath this morning of a strike on the jabalia refugee camp. gaza is desperately short of food and medicine, and disease is spreading. it's hoped any deal would allow hostages out and more aid in. king charles is hosting his first state visit since his coronation. a three day trip to the united kingdom with trade and investment expected to be a key focus. our correspondent is at buckingham palace and has all the latest on the first day of the state visit. the latest on the first day of the state visit-— state visit. it's definitely been the red corporal— state visit. it's definitely been the red corporal royal - state visit. it's definitely been | the red corporal royal roll-out for the president of south korea and the first lady. the official ceremony a welcome from the king and queen. and indeed rishi sunak the prime minister was there as well as was david cameron and his new role of foreign secretary. he was actually prime minister the last time there was in the state visit by a south korean president ten years ago. there was then a carriage procession down the mall to buckingham palace, which the prince and princess of wales took part in as well as the king and queen. they had a private lunch inside buckingham palace but we were then told they were shown some items from the royal collection that related to korea. there's been a bit more of a poignant afternoon as the south korean president and his wife the first lady laid a wreath at the korean war memorial that marks the 70th anniversary of the end of the korean war. they also then went on to west minister abbey where they laid another reads at the tomb of the unknown warrior. very much a poignant afternoon for the couple. they then made their way onto west minister and they are addressing members of both houses of parliament at west minister. as you mentioned at west minister. as you mentioned at the start, the main event is here at the start, the main event is here at buckingham palace later on this evening where there will be a state banquet in honour of the president and first lady. of course the king and first lady. of course the king and queen will be there along with other members of the royal family. there will be around 170 guests who have been invited for the event, which i'm told will be white tie anti—arrow. we have a got the menu yet, a lot of royal —— trr. we will bring you that way we do get it. we have been told that there is a 19th—century dinner service that is used and the tables have been laid with military precision, so much so they are 46 cm apart, the plates. nikki schiller outside buckingham palace. lots of economic discussion in trade deals linked to these discussions for that will bring you the details when we get out. the minimum wage is to be increased by more than a pound to £11 per hour from april next year. it's officially known as the national living wage and it is currently template 42 an hour for workers over the age of 23. the chancellorjeremy hunt has decided that the rate will also apply to 21 and 22—year—olds for the first time. it means a full—time worker age 23 on the wage would see a rise worth £1800. at 21—year—old will see in affected 203,000 annual rise let's get more on this from our political correspondent for the peter, talk to us about the thinking from the chancellor here. this us about the thinking from the chancellor here.— us about the thinking from the chancellor here. this had been exected chancellor here. this had been expected from _ chancellor here. this had been expected from jerry _ chancellor here. this had been expected from jerry hunt. - chancellor here. this had been expected from jerry hunt. he i chancellor here. this had been - expected from jerry hunt. he talks about it in his speech at this conservative party conference last month. it's all about putting more money into the back pockets of younger workers. money into the back pockets of youngerworkers. i money into the back pockets of younger workers. i suppose the conservatives are often accused of not doing all that much for voters at the younger end of the spectrum. this is an attempt to counter that narrative. it's also part of a wider theme in tomorrow's autumn statement about getting the economy growing once again. if you put more money into peoples pockets to go out and spend it and it will get things moving a little bit more then there have been in recent years. of course a major problem facing the british economy. this is it the first time the conservative government have looked at the national minimum wage it was george osborne who brought it in that concept of the national living wage, a bit of a rebrand, still effectively the minimum wage. that is interesting because because george osborne wa

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