military pressure on hamas together with the option as we said of extending the humanitarian truce to get more people out, i think it is an effective strategy of facilitating the expeditious release of our people. can you suggest a better alternative. of our people. can you suggest a betteralternative. if of our people. can you suggest a better alternative. if you take the pressure off, i doubt they will release a single hostage. let me ask ou a release a single hostage. let me ask you a broader— release a single hostage. let me ask you a broader question _ release a single hostage. let me ask you a broader question because - release a single hostage. let me ask you a broader question because of. you a broader question because of the hostages of course giving all of the hostages of course giving all of the focus today rightly so. and we also as part of the steel have got a four—day pause on the fighting. in that pause already more aid has been going in and you have been allowing fuel to get in and you have obviously made arrangements so that the fuel does not fall into the hands of hamas as you have set in the past. that suggests that you could have done that weeks ago to alleviate some of the suffering, could you not? we alleviate some of the suffering, could you not?— alleviate some of the suffering, could you not? alleviate some of the suffering, could ou not? ~ �* ., , could you not? we could've also been a humanitarian _ could you not? we could've also been a humanitarian pause _ could you not? we could've also been a humanitarian pause without - could you not? we could've also been a humanitarian pause without the - a humanitarian pause without the release of hostages and that also would have lifted the level of humanitarian, the situation in gaza. sure... if you did not allow the fuel and because i'm simply going into hamas hands you have managed to square that circle. but i am saying is you could have done that earlier and you could have alleviated so much suffering. find and you could have alleviated so much suffering.— and you could have alleviated so much suffering. and we have never have gotten — much suffering. and we have never have gotten our— much suffering. and we have never have gotten our hostages - much suffering. and we have never have gotten our hostages out. - much suffering. and we have never have gotten our hostages out. we l much suffering. and we have never. have gotten our hostages out. we had leverage and use it. we guaranteed a minimum to make sure that there was food entering gaza, water, medicine and even fuel. you will recall a decision before the to allow fuel to go in for specific purposes, hospital generators and so forth. once again, had we preempted. yes, had beaten everything up upfront, what motivation hamas have had to let hostages out. i think israel has played its cards shortly. we have acted in a way that is more about the release of our hostages. that is one of the central goes of our military operation.— military operation. tumour questions- _ military operation. tumour questions. lord _ military operation. tumour questions. lord cameron, | military operation. tumour. questions. lord cameron, the military operation. tumour- questions. lord cameron, the new military operation. tumour— questions. lord cameron, the new uk foreign secretary is in ramallah in the region and saying today that civilian casualties in gaza were too high and the israeli forces must abide by international humanitarian law and also going on saying that the region will never be secure unless there is long—term safety and security for palestinian people. in terms of direct response to the new uk foreign secretary what would you say? i uk foreign secretary what would you sa ? ., , say? i was in the meeting with we had yesterday _ say? i was in the meeting with we had yesterday in _ say? i was in the meeting with we had yesterday in jerusalem - say? i was in the meeting with we had yesterday in jerusalem with l say? i was in the meeting with we l had yesterday in jerusalem with him had yesterday injerusalem with him and i said to him, i can only agree with the principles he outlines. we think there has been too much, too many humanitarian, too many civilian casualties in this war. we think thatis casualties in this war. we think that is because of the deliberate strategy of hamas using gazan citizens as human shields. we have made a maximum efforts to minimise civilian casualties and urged people to leave areas of combat. hamas is ordered them to stay, sometimes a company. sometimes hamas is deliberately embedded its military machine and urban areas. —— sometimes at gunpoint. so machine and urban areas. -- sometimes at gunpoint. so nothing to do with your — sometimes at gunpoint. so nothing to do with your tactics _ sometimes at gunpoint. so nothing to do with your tactics at _ sometimes at gunpoint. so nothing to do with your tactics at all? _ sometimes at gunpoint. so nothing to do with your tactics at all? we - sometimes at gunpoint. so nothing to do with your tactics at all? we are - do with your tactics at all? we are bein: a do with your tactics at all? we are being a surgical— do with your tactics at all? we are being a surgical as he _ do with your tactics at all? we are being a surgical as he can - do with your tactics at all? we are j being a surgical as he can in these situations and can i say it when this is over in the numbers are counted you can see that the efforts of the idf to keep civilians safe, if you compare to comparable and military operations against isis in places like fallujah and mo salah i think you will see our efforts have actually shown with the numbers when you compare with israel compares favourably with other similar counterterrorist operations in built—up urban areas. aha, counterterrorist operations in built-up urban areas.- built-up urban areas. a final thought- _ built-up urban areas. a final thought. it's _ built-up urban areas. a final thought. it's a _ built-up urban areas. a final thought. it's a few— built-up urban areas. a final thought. it's a few days - built-up urban areas. a final| thought. it's a few days away built-up urban areas. a final - thought. it's a few days away but i quoted with the defence minister said, when you resume the war, is the intention to go into the south. when i spoke to at the start bully started the week he talked about an area west of communist and all injuries i did with eight agencies after that putting that point to them kibbutz nir oz they said it was impossible to get the humanitarian aid and if the if was an increase in trucks. the amount required for the amount of people you were saying should go to that area. i amount of people you were saying should go to that area.— should go to that area. i believe there is a _ should go to that area. i believe there is a will— should go to that area. i believe there is a will there _ should go to that area. i believe there is a will there is _ should go to that area. i believe there is a will there is a way - should go to that area. i believe there is a will there is a way in l there is a will there is a way in over the next four days that can bring in as much aid as they need. we have not specified one area. you specified and they know it, they have seen the maps, areas in the western part, west of khan younis in the south. it is close to the crossings, not far from the rough crossings, not far from the rough crossing with egypt. the trucks are coming in the number of trucks will multiply in the next couple of days precisely because of the humanitarian pause. —— rafah crossin. if they cannot get their act together and deal with the situation that i don't know what they are there for. there is a humanitarian difficult situation in gaza and we have specific areas where we know there will not be combat. these are areas will civilians can go, it needs to be tense there, field hospitals there. —— tense. we are willing to facilitate that with military operations as it is almost as if if they do not want to save lives. it can be done. they do not want to save lives. it can be done-— they do not want to save lives. it can be done. thank you for “oining us live from — can be done. thank you for “oining us live from tel * can be done. thank you for “oining us live from tel aviv. h can be done. thank you for “oining us live from tel aviv. let's _ can be done. thank you forjoining us live from tel aviv. let's go - can be done. thank you forjoining| us live from tel aviv. let's go back to tel aviv with anna foster and talk more about the release of the 13. i wasjust looking talk more about the release of the 13. i was just looking at the list i3. i was just looking at the list mark regev write out the names and a full list has been published and as he was saying, the youngest, two years old, the oldest 85. that's ri . ht. years old, the oldest 85. that's riht. it years old, the oldest 85. that's right- it is _ years old, the oldest 85. that's right. it is three _ years old, the oldest 85. that's right. it is three families - years old, the oldest 85. that's right. it is three families and i years old, the oldest 85. that's i right. it is three families and five elderly women that have been released. so there is the asher family and aviv asher at just two years old. the mum and dad of emilia aloni. and one otherfamily that i wasjust speaking to aloni. and one otherfamily that i was just speaking to here aloni. and one otherfamily that i wasjust speaking to here in aloni. and one otherfamily that i was just speaking to here in the square yesterday showing me the t—shirt he was wearing with the pictures on and carrying a poster with their faces on. we know that ruth, 78, karen, 54 and her child's, nine years old, are among those released. and it was described to me if you are watching early this morning, in southern israel as that cease—fire took hold we were hearing the thoughts and the difficulty that the thoughts and the difficulty that the family had been through. his hopes after that delay of 24 hours that they would be released and we now know that they are back in israel as well. in five elderly women. edina mosh, 76, margalit moses, 76, 79—year—old and an 85—year—old, she, ithink moses, 76, 79—year—old and an 85—year—old, she, i think was one of the images that people really remember because she was taken away in a golf buggy surrounded by members of hamas and that was an image that had been shared around the world and her granddaughter has been very vocal about of course wanting to get her grandmother back. so this is the first 13 of the 50 israeli citizens. we also have had this release of ten thai nationals and one filipino. in this is day one of four. this deal allows for four days of this and these logistics and choreography we have seen today will hopefully be repeated over the next three days. for those family members we have been hearing from as well who would know that perhaps it is male family members being held hostage and they are no that they are not covered by this deal we have seen and heard how emotional this moment is for them but how they feel but it opens a door to perhaps the potential for future release of their own relatives as well. anna foster there _ their own relatives as well. anna foster there for _ their own relatives as well. anna foster there for us _ their own relatives as well. anna foster there for us in _ their own relatives as well. anna foster there for us in tel- their own relatives as well. anna foster there for us in tel aviv. . their own relatives as well. anna foster there for us in tel aviv. i | foster there for us in tel aviv. i know you have to slip away for the next little while but thank you for taking us through the last two and half hours as we have plotted all of the developments as we have seen this release of the hostages. but israeli hostages, released 13. the tide nationals —— thai nationals and the 39 palestinians held in a israeli gel all part of this deal. israeli jail. as pa rt of as part of this deal there's been a pause in fighting that is running parallel to this. essential to this deal. let's head to gaza and look at the humanitarian situation. james elder is the chief communications officerfor elder is the chief communications officer for you elder is the chief communications officerfor you to sell. elder is the chief communications officer for you to sell. welcome here to the programme. just describe what you have been witnessing through the course of today. in what you have been witnessing through the course of today. in one sense what — through the course of today. in one sense what we _ through the course of today. in one sense what we have _ through the course of today. in one sense what we have seen _ through the course of today. in one sense what we have seen is - through the course of today. in one sense what we have seen is almost j sense what we have seen is almost like fear and sorrow have taken root in gaza. i certainly over my two decades of doing this kind of work have never seen so many children with wounds of war in such a small space of time. so there is this context and the context of having so many people crammed together, adolescent girls queuing for ours to use the toilet. that is still the reality of course, we also have a relative, positive here. we can get a lot more humanitarian aid into people because they have been deprived for a long time of the most basics like water. water is a lifeline for people and it has been death for some. and of course the wonderful news, finally that the torment is over for some people and they can see their children again something we have been pleading for for six weeks. so it is a mixed bag. from the humanitarian point of view everyone is working round—the—clock to take advantage of this small window but the window has to be extended. you cannot possibly tell these people they will be bombs again in four or five days' these people they will be bombs again in four orfive days' time. tell me, traits described for viewers watching, what some of those children, especially have been saying to you as they emerge, so many of them have taken shelter, cover as best they can for many, many weeks. what it has been like for them today on a day like today. the few i spoke to, one child i was able to speak to, ten years old, his body looks broken. it looked like it had been broken and re—put together again and he was in his family home when it was bombs. he had burns from more than 50% of his body, both of his legs were shattered. he was with his legs were shattered. he was with his uncle who had these soft gentle blue eyes but think he may not actually see again. his uncle have not yet told him his father and brother have also been killed. that story is repeated across the gaza. i spoke to a seven—year—old who was really articulate, amazing for this little boy given what he had been through. in the bombardment of his family home he had lost his mother, his father and his seven—year—old twin. when i said to the little boy, omar, you are a clever boy and he could see it in the way that he spoke. he said, yes, my brother was more clever. these are the stories i am hearing and this is why this pause must turn into a cease—fire and it must turn into a lasting peace. i cannot believe that in four or five days' time after we get there as much aid as began, we will start killing large numbers of children again. i start killing iarge numbers of children again.— start killing large numbers of children aaain. , , ., . children again. i suppose on that oint it children again. i suppose on that point it must _ children again. i suppose on that point it must be _ children again. i suppose on that point it must be incredibly - point it must be incredibly difficult to know, emotionally, how to cope with this given what the israelis have said and i was talking to mark regev and you probably heard it, absolutely underlining that unless hamas release more hostages and an extension for that, aside for that this war will resume in four days' time. it that this war will resume in four days' time-— that this war will resume in four da s' time. , ., , ., , ., days' time. it 'ust does not seem to make an days' time. itjust does not seem to make any sense _ days' time. itjust does not seem to make any sense because _ days' time. itjust does not seem to make any sense because of- days' time. itjust does not seem to make any sense because of course. days' time. itjust does not seem to i make any sense because of course you cannot separate these false equivalencies. these are children and these are people who have not had a say in how this place is governed for a long, long time. i think every person i spoke to today or listen to, dozens, every of them have lost someone. to think that pain is going to extended and extended, yes of course, there are parties that will discuss this but i hope that we do not have ace false equivalency because one of these parties is a member state and the other is a terrorist organisation. so i hope sincerely that they can look in the eyes of the children that i have seen today and realise that i have seen today and realise that the only way for a lasting peace for the children of israel and palestine is that they have peace and security and we prioritise their rights and well—being for this generation and generations to come. a final question. i don't want to draw you into politics but a brief response to what mark regev was saying because when i pushed him on the humanitarian situation he effectively set this up to you guys to get your act together to actually put in place what people need. we are put in place what people need. - are front line responders doing everything we can and given the ferocity of what has happened here given that more than 100 of my colleagues have been killed, i will not go tit—for—tat, there has been a knee capping in some ways of the ability for a response and now we are being told tojump. now we will jump are being told tojump. now we will jump because it is ourjob to make sure that the children are seen today to get fresh water, that the girls don't cue for three hours to get to a toilet but yes, it does not bear responding to that sort of claimed that i know everyone is working round—the—clock. i know everyone is working round—the—clock. understand that 36 hours ago just before the cease—fire, colleagues here had to get under the desk because they were shelling nearby while they were trying to plan some of these things of this is the context colleagues are working it. they will continue to do so but it is a very dangerous place to work in a difficult place to work.— a difficult place to work. thank you for takinr a difficult place to work. thank you for taking time _ a difficult place to work. thank you for taking time to _ a difficult place to work. thank you for taking time to give _ a difficult place to work. thank you for taking time to give us - a difficult place to work. thank you for taking time to give us that - for taking time to give us that backdrop here on bbc news and good luck in the next three or four days in terms of extending the help to all of this people there. let's return to the hostages because we were going through the list. let me just give you some of the reaction. all the while more reaction. all the while more reaction coming in. we were looking at that building a short while ago with pictures in tel aviv at some of the faces, some of the people being put up there. one person has written, they are finally here at home, there will be more time to talk about everything, for now, you all from the bottom of my heart for the support and the hugs. no victory picture until everyone returns home.