those numbers supposedly corresponding to safe areas, but the reality is people don't have power or internet communication, or at least it's intermittent. and so, very often, they have no idea where to go. earlier, i spoke with our diplomatic correspondent, paul adams, injerusalem and asked what sorts of warnings the israelis are sending to the people of gaza. they're basically saying that if you are living in an area just to the east and north of khan younis, one of the largest cities in the southern part of the gaza strip, then you need to move west and get out of the way. that map you're seeing there on your screen, that red dotted line is the salahadin street, which runs throughout the gaza strip from north to south. and that area, that red dotted area is a stretch of the road that the israelis are saying palestinians should not get anywhere near. at the bottom end of that dotted line is the city of khan younis. the yellow—orange line is saying this is the alternative route you can take if you want to head to the south. i think what all of this suggests to me is that the israelis are probably going to try and cut across north of khan younis towards the sea, to cut the southern part of the gaza strip off from the rest. we saw a similar tactic further north when they cut off gaza city from the rest of the gaza strip. so that seems to be the general direction of israeli military effort at the moment. and that will be a prelude to a battle that will probably and that'll be a prelude to a battle that will probably concentrate on khan younis for the coming weeks, and obviously, that is leading to enormous concern and fear among people there. they are getting these new instructions. they are more detailed than they were up in gaza city. you can look at a map and see block by block which ones the israelis are talking about on any given day. but for people, some of whom have had to move several times already, this is exhausting and it is still confusing. a senior us delegation arrived in israel today to begin the planning for post—war gaza. they've been told to leave a warehouse within 2a hours. the who saying they have to leave the warehouse. you'll be aware that medical supplies are already in chronically short supplies. they don't have the number beds. a senior us delegation arrived in israel today to begin the planning for post—war gaza. among the americans the vice presidents top national security advisor phil gordon, who was with kamala harris in dubai at the weekend for her meetings with the arab leaders. they will be meeting with israeli top security officials as well as the palestinian president mahmoud abbas. philip, cani philip, can i just philip, can ijust pick up on that? the israelis say they don't want the job of securing gaza, arab nations are resisting, palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas said he might volunteerfor it. president mahmoud abbas said he might volunteer for it. there's a range of unsatisfactory options here. what do you think should take place next? here. what do you think should take lace next? . �* , here. what do you think should take place next?— place next? that's the question all the --eole place next? that's the question all the peeple are _ place next? that's the question all the people are searching _ place next? that's the question all the people are searching for, - the people are searching for, really. the initiative at the moment is of the israeli military. it sounds like they've got a way to go before they're satisfied that they've achieved at least their short—term objective. you can't lock the doors on the gaza strip indefinitely. there needs to be a sustainable way forward. that will have to involve notjust the us in terms of international engagement, but also the arab world and beyond. that's where creative minds have to get to work pretty quickly, because what we have at the moment cannot last. you cannot have a situation like this just go on indefinitely. there is a lot of people in the gaza strip who need some sort of line of sight into the future, and they're just not getting that at the moment. it's a desperate situation.— it's a desperate situation. which is the oint it's a desperate situation. which is the point that _ it's a desperate situation. which is the point that the _ it's a desperate situation. which is the point that the defence - it's a desperate situation. which is i the point that the defence secretary was making at the weekend, if you continue the bombing, strategically, you lose the war because you lose hearts and minds of the palestinian people. this has come earlier today from the national security leader jake sullivan. he was asked whether the united states thinks israel is heating their advice to protect civilians. this is what he said? it's too soon for me to sit here and telll you that i'm going to pass some comprehensive judgment. - what i'm going to do instead is what i did earlier today. i i'm going to talk to my israeli. counterparts about what they are doing to target hamas i and what they are doing to try to protect civilians. they have every right to go after the hamas terrorists i who committed this brutal massacre on october 7th and who continue - to fire rockets just in the last . hours at civilian areas in israel. but they also have a responsibility to try to protect civilians. - which they absolutely do, mary anne, because they see it as an accidental threat. the bigger question is whether you can really get rid of hamas. they've been in powerfor 15 years and every part of society. is it possible to do away with a movement like that through a military campaign ? failure isn't an option, 7 failure isn't an option, look what ? failure isn't an option, look what hamas has — ? failure isn't an option, look what hamas has done. _ ? failure isn't an option, look what hamas has done. israel _ ? failure isn't an option, look what hamas has done. israel is - hamas has done. israel is certainly within_ hamas has done. israel is certainly within its_ hamas has done. israel is certainly within its rights to remove them and end it _ within its rights to remove them and end it as_ within its rights to remove them and end it. as difficult as that is, at the same — end it. as difficult as that is, at the same time — and we talked about this in— the same time — and we talked about this in the _ the same time — and we talked about this in the beginning days — about the importance of how you wage war. if the importance of how you wage war. if you _ the importance of how you wage war. if you are _ the importance of how you wage war. if you are no— the importance of how you wage war. if you are no better than the people who attack— if you are no better than the people who attack you, that's not democratic, small d. israel needs to do a better— democratic, small d. israel needs to do a betterjob protecting civilians. what you're seeing from the united — civilians. what you're seeing from the united states, from president biden, _ the united states, from president biden, jake sullivan kamala harris and everyone else is an increase on the pressure — and everyone else is an increase on the pressure on netanyahu. it's a good _ the pressure on netanyahu. it's a good cop, — the pressure on netanyahu. it's a good cop, bad cop game with biden, many— good cop, bad cop game with biden, many decades associate of netanyahu, knows _ many decades associate of netanyahu, knows him _ many decades associate of netanyahu, knows him well and is putting the pressure — knows him well and is putting the pressure on him privately while publicly— pressure on him privately while publicly saying he supports him. now you have _ publicly saying he supports him. now you have kamala harris meeting with arab leaders and showing what it's going _ arab leaders and showing what it's going to _ arab leaders and showing what it's going to look like the day after the war ends — going to look like the day after the war ends. clearly pressuring netanyahu to say look what happened during _ netanyahu to say look what happened during the _ netanyahu to say look what happened during the pause, look what happened when we _ during the pause, look what happened when we were exchanging hostages and everything _ when we were exchanging hostages and everything had stopped. "we need to -et everything had stopped. "we need to get there _ everything had stopped. "we need to get there sooner and" the pressure of the _ get there sooner and" the pressure of the united states is going to make _ of the united states is going to make it — of the united states is going to make it all but impossible for netanyahu not to bring this to an end _ netanyahu not to bring this to an end. 00 — netanyahu not to bring this to an end. , ., netanyahu not to bring this to an end. ,. . netanyahu not to bring this to an end. y., ., ., end. do you agree with that, philip? the only caveat _ end. do you agree with that, philip? the only caveat i _ end. do you agree with that, philip? the only caveat i would put - end. do you agree with that, philip? the only caveat i would put with - the only caveat i would put with thatis the only caveat i would put with that is we used to look to netanyahu as leading the thought in israel as the prime minister. but the consensus is so wide, the horror in israel is so wide that actually, there is a consensus that this has to change and something has to be done to change the equation. you have 20,000 people right now who can't go back to their homes in southern israel because they fear hamas is beyond the fence. is there a consensus that this has to be ended once and for all?- ended once and for all? yeah, i think that's right, _ ended once and for all? yeah, i think that's right, hence this i think that's right, hence this theory engage, prolong israeli military option. you have to ask the question, what after that? they doubt they will want to carry on with hamas leadership. but how do you persuade future generations of palestinians not to follow in the footsteps of hamas? you have to have that longer—term sustainable future option for people in order to this gasoline is doesn't continue. —— this gasoline is —— ghastliness. there are concerns that venezuela's dictator, nicolas maduro, is gearing up to invade neighbouring guyana. he wants its oil. his government called a referendum on its claim to an oil—mineral—rich swathe of guyana known in venezuela as the essequibo. around 160,000 sq km of land which represents about two—thirds of guyana's territory. the tensions between the two countries have escalated since exxonmobil made one of the world's biggest recent oil discoveries there in 2015. the us military has been working to strengthen guyana's tiny military force, but nothing like enough to deter mr maduro — but then neither has britain. it is a former colony, a fellow commonwealth country — in fact, it's the only english—speaking nation in latin america. benjamin gedan is a former south america director on the national security council at the white house and now the director of the latin america program at the wilson centre, a think tank based in washington. thank you for being on the programme. the united states where they are at the weekend, talking to they are at the weekend, talking to the government in guiana. were they prepared to go too far enough to protect guyana? it’s prepared to go too far enough to protect guyana?— prepared to go too far enough to protect guyana? it's clear that the armed forces. — protect guyana? it's clear that the armed forces, given _ protect guyana? it's clear that the armed forces, given the - protect guyana? it's clear that the j armed forces, given the collapse, are far— armed forces, given the collapse, are far superior— armed forces, given the collapse, are far superiorto_ armed forces, given the collapse, are far superiorto any— armed forces, given the collapse, are far superior to any forces - armed forces, given the collapse, are far superior to any forces that i are far superior to any forces that guyana _ are far superior to any forces that guyana could _ are far superior to any forces that guyana could muster. _ are far superior to any forces that guyana could muster. i'm - are far superior to any forces that guyana could muster. i'm not - are far superior to any forces that . guyana could muster. i'm not certain the united _ guyana could muster. i'm not certain the united states would _ guyana could muster. i'm not certain the united states would get- guyana could muster. i'm not certain the united states would get involvedj the united states would get involved directly _ the united states would get involved directly in the — the united states would get involved directly in the hostilities. _ the united states would get involved directly in the hostilities. but - the united states would get involved directly in the hostilities. but it - directly in the hostilities. but it clearly— directly in the hostilities. but it clearly would _ directly in the hostilities. but it clearly would just— directly in the hostilities. but it clearly would just her— directly in the hostilities. but it clearly would just her in - directly in the hostilities. but it clearly would just her in any. directly in the hostilities. but itl clearly would just her in any way directly in the hostilities. but it. clearly would just her in any way it could _ clearly would just her in any way it could this — clearly would just her in any way it could this invasion _ clearly would just her in any way it could this invasion —— _ clearly would just her in any way it could this invasion —— it _ clearly would just her in any way it could this invasion —— it could - could this invasion —— it could deter — could this invasion -- it could deter. ~ , , �* ., could this invasion -- it could deter. , , deter. why is brazil mobilising? brazil borders _ deter. why is brazil mobilising? brazil borders the _ deter. why is brazil mobilising? brazil borders the region - deter. why is brazil mobilising? brazil borders the region and i deter. why is brazil mobilising? brazil borders the region and is| brazil borders the region and is worried — brazil borders the region and is worried about _ brazil borders the region and is worried about the _ brazil borders the region and is worried about the hostilities i worried about the hostilities falling — worried about the hostilities falling over— worried about the hostilities falling over the _ worried about the hostilities falling over the border- worried about the hostilities falling over the border and i worried about the hostilities - falling over the border and direct impacts — falling over the border and direct impacts it's_ falling over the border and direct impacts. it's mobilising - falling over the border and direct impacts. it's mobilising some - falling over the border and direct impacts. it's mobilising some ofi falling over the border and direct . impacts. it's mobilising some of its own troops— impacts. it's mobilising some of its own troops and _ impacts. it's mobilising some of its own troops and mediated - impacts. it's mobilising some of its own troops and mediated the - own troops and mediated the conflict to. ~ ., ., �* , ., to. what i don't understand - i don't know— to. what i don't understand - i don't know an _ to. what i don't understand - i don't know an enormous - to. what i don't understand - i i don't know an enormous amount about the venezuelan economy, but i do know it has some of the largest proven reserves of oil. i was reading today in their heyday, they pumped around 3 million barrels per day. why did they need this? because we are far from _ day. why did they need this? because we are far from their— day. why did they need this? because we are far from their heyday. - we are far from their heyday. they're — we are far from their heyday. they're pumping _ we are far from their heyday. they're pumping now- we are far from their heyday. i they're pumping now estimated 730,000 — they're pumping now estimated 730,000 barrels _ they're pumping now estimated 730,000 barrels of _ they're pumping now estimated 730,000 barrels of oil- they're pumping now estimated 730,000 barrels of oil per- they're pumping now estimated 730,000 barrels of oil per day, | they're pumping now estimated - 730,000 barrels of oil per day, down from 32— 730,000 barrels of oil per day, down from 3.2 million. _ 730,000 barrels of oil per day, down from 3.2 million. this— 730,000 barrels of oil per day, down from 3.2 million. this is— 730,000 barrels of oil per day, down from 3.2 million. this is their- 730,000 barrels of oil per day, down from 3.2 million. this is their only. from 3.2 million. this is their only export, _ from 3.2 million. this is their only export, their— from 3.2 million. this is their only export, their only— from 3.2 million. this is their only export, their only hard _ from 3.2 million. this is their only export, their only hard currency. i export, their only hard currency. given— export, their only hard currency. given the — export, their only hard currency. given the collapse _ export, their only hard currency. given the collapse of— export, their only hard currency. given the collapse of the - export, their only hard currency. given the collapse of the oil- given the collapse of the oil industry. _ given the collapse of the oil industry, getting _ given the collapse of the oil industry, getting their- given the collapse of the oili industry, getting their hands given the collapse of the oil- industry, getting their hands on these _ industry, getting their hands on these enormous _ industry, getting their hands on these enormous offshore - industry, getting their hands on . these enormous offshore reserves that exxon — these enormous offshore reserves that exxon discovered _ these enormous offshore reserves that exxon discovered would - these enormous offshore reserves that exxon discovered would be i these enormous offshore reserves that exxon discovered would be inj that exxon discovered would be in the economic— that exxon discovered would be in the economic interest. _ that exxon discovered would be in the economic interest. do- that exxon discovered would be in the economic interest.— that exxon discovered would be in the economic interest. do you think he's serious — the economic interest. do you think he's serious about _ the economic interest. do you think he's serious about going _ the economic interest. do you think he's serious about going across - the economic interest. do you think he's serious about going across the | he's serious about going across the border or is this such a national touchstone issue that it's a good one to pick on before an election? it's interesting. he's certainly hoping — it's interesting. he's certainly hoping for— it's interesting. he's certainly hoping for a _ it's interesting. he's certainly hoping for a rally— it's interesting. he's certainly hoping for a rally around - it's interesting. he's certainly hoping for a rally around the. it's interesting. he's certainly- hoping for a rally around the flag. he was— hoping for a rally around the flag. he was very— hoping for a rally around the flag. he was very unnerved _ hoping for a rally around the flag. he was very unnerved by- hoping for a rally around the flag. he was very unnerved by this - he was very unnerved by this opposition— he was very unnerved by this opposition primary— he was very unnerved by this opposition primary that - he was very unnerved by this opposition primary that tookl he was very unnerved by this - opposition primary that took place a few months— opposition primary that took place a few months ago _ opposition primary