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BBCNEWS BBC July 1, 2024



applause many said this could not be done. but when i spoke to you at the very start of this cop, i promised a different sort of cop, a cop that brought everyone together. private and public sectors, civilsociety, ngos, faith leaders, youth, and indigenous peoples. everyone came together from day one. everyone united, everyone acted, and everyone delivered. we operationalised the loss and damage and started to fill the fund. we mobilised more than $83 billion us in new financial commitments. we launched alterra, the world's largest catalytic private investor that is 100% focused on solutions to climate change. and we delivered world first after world first. a global goal to triple renewable energy and double energy efficiency. declarations on agriculture, declarations on food, declarations on health. many more oil and gas companies stepping up for the first time. stepping up to deliver against a very ambitious goals and objectives. and, for the first time, to deliver on methane and emissions. and we have language on fossil fuel in our final agreement, for the first time ever! applause the united states special presidential envoy for climate, john kerry, praised the deal as a success of international co—operation. i think, as you look around this room and you look at the number of people that are here, it underscores the complications, the difficulties, the fundamental challenge of bringing 200 countries together and finding consensus. i think that everybody here should...should be pleased that, in a world of ukraine and the middle east, war and all the other challenges of a planet that is foundering, this is a moment where multilateralism has actually come together and people have taken individual interests and attempted to define the common good. let's go live to our correspondent in dubai, carl nasman. he is following all the developments.- he is following all the developments. he is following all the develoments. . , developments. that is right. it has been a very _ developments. that is right. it has been a very rapid _ developments. that is right. it has been a very rapid pace _ developments. that is right. it has been a very rapid pace of - been a very rapid pace of developments here in dubai. we all came in the early hours of today, we got the updated text and it felt like after days of waiting, it only took a few minutes for it to be gambled through and past. we now have a deal, this is the global stock—take which takes in so much ambition from the two weeks at this cop28. the biggest headline is that for the first time in decades, these nations gathered together have agreed to transition away from fossil fuels for the first time. now wejust fossil fuels for the first time. now we just heard after the gavel went down, some impassioned words from low—lying highland states from the alliance of small island states. here is what they had to sayjust moments ago. zoning in on paragraph 26 and 29 of this draft... of this decision, we have come to the conclusion that the course correction that is needed has not been secured. we have made an incremental advancement over business as usual. when what we really needed is an exponential step change in our actions and support. mr president, in paragraph 26, we do not see any commitment or even an invitation from parties to peak emissions by 2025. we reference the science throughout the text and even in this paragraph, but then we refrain from an agreement to take the relevant action in order to act in line with what the science says we have to do. so despite the nature of this agreement, not every country is completely satisfied. there are many developing nations are nations like samoa on the front line of climate change that feel this deal doesn't go far enough. i am joined by a of guests here. a pacific climate warrior from guests here. a pacific climate warriorfrom samoa guests here. a pacific climate warrior from samoa and also from fiji. we heard the representative there from samoa but speaking on behalf of the alliance of small island states. what did you make of that speech and the message behind it, is there satisfaction among people from samoa or similar nations on the front line of climate change, are they satisfied with this deal? simply, no. ithink they satisfied with this deal? simply, no. i think i echo the words of chair. _ simply, no. i think i echo the words of chair. that— simply, no. i think i echo the words of chair, that there is so much we needed _ of chair, that there is so much we needed to— of chair, that there is so much we needed to say but were not even given— needed to say but were not even given the — needed to say but were not even given the time because some members were not— given the time because some members were not in— given the time because some members were not in the room when it was agreed _ were not in the room when it was agreed and — were not in the room when it was agreed and she said she was a little confused _ agreed and she said she was a little confused as to what was happening. if you _ confused as to what was happening. if you want — confused as to what was happening. if you want to go and look at what in the _ if you want to go and look at what in the text— if you want to go and look at what in the text we are opposed to, you can look— in the text we are opposed to, you can look at— in the text we are opposed to, you can look at her statement. and are those similar— can look at her statement. and are those similar sentiments _ can look at her statement. and are those similar sentiments on - can look at her statement. and are those similar sentiments on your. those similar sentiments on your part, you are from fiji, is their concern that nations such as samoa and fiji were left out of the process right at the end of this deal? i process right at the end of this deal? ~ ., , ., , deal? i think it was gavelled very ra - idl deal? i think it was gavelled very rapidly and _ deal? i think it was gavelled very rapidly and some _ deal? i think it was gavelled very rapidly and some members - deal? i think it was gavelled very rapidly and some members were | deal? i think it was gavelled very - rapidly and some members were not in the room _ rapidly and some members were not in the room and _ rapidly and some members were not in the room and there _ rapidly and some members were not in the room and there was— rapidly and some members were not in the room and there was a _ rapidly and some members were not in the room and there was a bit— rapidly and some members were not in the room and there was a bit of- the room and there was a bit of confusion _ the room and there was a bit of confusion. there _ the room and there was a bit of confusion. there are _ the room and there was a bit of confusion. there are also - the room and there was a bit of confusion. there are also clear| confusion. there are also clear points— confusion. there are also clear points of— confusion. there are also clear points of concern _ confusion. there are also clear points of concern in _ confusion. there are also clear points of concern in the - confusion. there are also clear points of concern in the text, i points of concern in the text, particularly _ points of concern in the text, particularly around _ points of concern in the text, particularly around the - points of concern in the text, - particularly around the phase—out, acknowledging _ particularly around the phase—out, acknowledging the _ particularly around the phase—out, acknowledging the move - particularly around the phase—out, acknowledging the move away - particularly around the phase—out, i acknowledging the move away from fossil fuels — acknowledging the move away from fossil fuels is— acknowledging the move away from fossil fuels is historic— acknowledging the move away from fossil fuels is historic but _ acknowledging the move away from fossil fuels is historic but the - fossil fuels is historic but the time — fossil fuels is historic but the time for— fossil fuels is historic but the time for signalling _ fossil fuels is historic but the time for signalling is- fossil fuels is historic but the time for signalling is long - fossil fuels is historic but the . time for signalling is long past. fossil fuels is historic but the - time for signalling is long past. [53 there time for signalling is long past. there enough in this deal that time for signalling is long past.“ there enough in this deal that you think this could make a difference, potentially keep the world on track to meet our goal?— to meet our goal? there is incremental— to meet our goal? there is incremental change, - to meet our goal? there is incremental change, so - to meet our goal? there is i incremental change, so there to meet our goal? there is - incremental change, so there are small— incremental change, so there are small bits — incremental change, so there are small bits in there of success but it is not— small bits in there of success but it is not what we need it to be. it is not _ it is not what we need it to be. it is not what — it is not what we need it to be. it is not what we need it to be to get out of— is not what we need it to be to get out of this— is not what we need it to be to get out of this trajectory we are on. we have _ out of this trajectory we are on. we have made — out of this trajectory we are on. we have made it clear, 1.5 is a red tine _ have made it clear, 1.5 is a red tine for— have made it clear, 1.5 is a red tine for us, _ have made it clear, 1.5 is a red line for us, we cannot cross 1.5 because — line for us, we cannot cross 1.5 because our— line for us, we cannot cross 1.5 because our survival is on that line _ because our survival is on that line there _ because our survival is on that line. there is text in there that crosses — line. there is text in there that crosses the _ line. there is text in there that crosses the 1.5 line.— line. there is text in there that crosses the 1.5 line. there were concerns _ crosses the 1.5 line. there were concerns of _ crosses the 1.5 line. there were concerns of course _ crosses the 1.5 line. there were concerns of course coming - crosses the 1.5 line. there were concerns of course coming into | crosses the 1.5 line. there were . concerns of course coming into this cop28 that it was being hosted in an oil nation, that the cop 28th president is a ceo of an oil company. in the end, do you think those concerns affected the outcome here? i those concerns affected the outcome here? ~ ., those concerns affected the outcome here? ~' ., ., . ,, ., here? i think we need to acknowledge there were over— here? i think we need to acknowledge there were over 2000 _ here? i think we need to acknowledge there were over 2000 fossil _ here? i think we need to acknowledge there were over 2000 fossil fuel- there were over 2000 fossil fuel tobbyists— there were over 2000 fossil fuel lobbyists present. _ there were over 2000 fossil fuel lobbyists present. i— there were over 2000 fossil fuel lobbyists present. i think- there were over 2000 fossil fuel lobbyists present. i think it- there were over 2000 fossil fuel lobbyists present. i think it is. lobbyists present. i think it is also — lobbyists present. i think it is also important _ lobbyists present. i think it is also important to _ lobbyists present. i think it is. also important to acknowledge lobbyists present. i think it is- also important to acknowledge that the outcome — also important to acknowledge that the outcome possesses— also important to acknowledge that the outcome possesses some - also important to acknowledge that - the outcome possesses some loopholes that could _ the outcome possesses some loopholes that could benefit _ the outcome possesses some loopholes that could benefit the _ the outcome possesses some loopholes that could benefit the fossil— the outcome possesses some loopholes that could benefit the fossil fuel - that could benefit the fossil fuel industry. — that could benefit the fossil fuel industry, referring _ that could benefit the fossil fuel industry, referring to _ that could benefit the fossil fuel - industry, referring to abatement and transition _ industry, referring to abatement and transition fuels, _ industry, referring to abatement and transition fuels, like _ industry, referring to abatement and transition fuels, like gas. _ industry, referring to abatement and transition fuels, like gas. so- industry, referring to abatement and transition fuels, like gas. so it - transition fuels, like gas. so it does _ transition fuels, like gas. so it does feel_ transition fuels, like gas. so it does feel like _ transition fuels, like gas. so it does feel like this _ transition fuels, like gas. so it does feel like this could - transition fuels, like gas. so it does feel like this could have i transition fuels, like gas. so it - does feel like this could have been a win— does feel like this could have been a win because _ does feel like this could have been a win because it— does feel like this could have been a win because it doesn't— does feel like this could have beenl a win because it doesn't completely phase _ a win because it doesn't completely phase out _ a win because it doesn't completely phase out fossil— a win because it doesn't completely phase out fossil fuels. _ a win because it doesn't completely phase out fossil fuels. there - a win because it doesn't completely phase out fossil fuels. there is- phase out fossil fuels. there is still room _ phase out fossil fuels. there is still room for— phase out fossil fuels. there is still room for expansion. - phase out fossil fuels. there is still room for expansion. i - phase out fossil fuels. there is still room for expansion. i think there are _ still room for expansion. i think there are some _ still room for expansion. i think there are some that _ still room for expansion. i think there are some that might - still room for expansion. i think there are some that might say. still room for expansion. i think- there are some that might say there seemed to be an impossible deal, to get oil nation is on board with something. we sawed the leaked document from opec saying they would oppose any language to a fossil fuel phase—out and yet to get fairly strong language and fossil fuels, does that seem like a win, given those circumstances? i does that seem like a win, given those circumstances?— does that seem like a win, given those circumstances? i mean, i said this before — those circumstances? i mean, i said this before today, _ those circumstances? i mean, i said this before today, it's _ those circumstances? i mean, i said this before today, it's like _ those circumstances? i mean, i said this before today, it's like asking . this before today, it's like asking us to— this before today, it's like asking us to celebrate flowers that would lie on _ us to celebrate flowers that would lie on our— us to celebrate flowers that would lie on our grave. how could you ask us to— lie on our grave. how could you ask us to do— lie on our grave. how could you ask us to do that? at the same time, it's about — us to do that? at the same time, it's about transparency. we were asked _ it's about transparency. we were asked to — it's about transparency. we were asked to come here and at the very beginning _ asked to come here and at the very beginning we got word from the presidency this would be an historic win. presidency this would be an historic win there — presidency this would be an historic win. there is no real history made. yes, _ win. there is no real history made. yes. the _ win. there is no real history made. yes, the historic win of the text but it— yes, the historic win of the text but it is— yes, the historic win of the text but it is almost like the spirit of how we — but it is almost like the spirit of how we began this is not how we are ending _ how we began this is not how we are ending it~ _ how we began this is not how we are endin: it. ., ~ how we began this is not how we are endin: it. . ~ i. how we began this is not how we are endin: it. ., ~' ,, ., i. how we began this is not how we are endin: it. ., ~ ., ., ending it. thank you to you both for cominu ending it. thank you to you both for comin: to ending it. thank you to you both for coming to share _ ending it. thank you to you both for coming to share your— ending it. thank you to you both for coming to share your perspectives l ending it. thank you to you both for. coming to share your perspectives on this text, which hasjust coming to share your perspectives on this text, which has just been approved in dubai. one note to end on, we heard of because the big standing ovation after sultan ahmed al—jaber gavelled through this agreement. there was another one are from samoa and that lasted longer than the initial round of applause. i can show you there are plenty of concern still about whether or not this deal goes far enough.- concern still about whether or not this deal goes far enough. thank you very much- — back life to the summit and we can hear from the back life to the summit and we can hearfrom the uk ministerfor climate who is speaking. and on finance. we are fully committed to doubling adaptation finance and we realise this is just the beginning. we need to finance the beginning. we need to finance the energy transition. this all needs to be part of the conversation next year as we step up deliberations on the new collective quantified goal. mr president, we are facing an unprecedented challenge with the climate crisis. and although there is a long way to 90, and although there is a long way to go, and we need to move much faster, this outcome is something we can genuinely celebrate. thank you. applause graeme stewart there, welcoming this deal which has been agreed by 200 countries at the cop summit in dubai. some of the day�* other stories. prime minister rishi sunak has won a crucial vote in parliament on his rwanda plan despite right—wing conservative rebels refusing to back it. the legislation seeks to revive the scheme to send some asylum seekers to africa, which was ruled unlawful by the uk supreme court. mps approved it by 313 votes to 269, a comfortable government majority of 1m. live now to our chief political correspondent henry zeffman at downing street. henry, good news for the prime minister following that vote last night. explain what it means in practice. this is just the first stage in a long legislative process. in fact, it would have been so unusual for rishi sunak to lose at this stage because no government has lost at that stage since 1986 and yet yesterday morning, it genuinely seemed in question. you arejust hearing from the uk climate minister, the government was so worried about this vote they got graeme stewart to fly back to london from dubai, just to vote, and then to fly back to dubai to speak at the end of the summit there. that is how worried the government was yesterday. in the end, they actually won by a fairly comfortable majority, but at what price? that is the key question today because some of those conservatives who might have rebelled think that rishi sunak and his team might be willing to entertain concessions, to toughen up the legislation first we had a little earlier from james cleverley the home secretary about that. the bill has got to work, so it's got to be legally robust, it's got to have legitimate arguments underpinning it. it has got to be effective, in that it's got to get flights to rwanda and it has got to be acceptable to our rwandan partners. those are the parameters through which any amendments need to be seen. if people are putting forward good faith amendments in an attempt to improve the bill, make it stronger, what is already an incredibly t

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