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lifted. the life, impact and one incredible love story. remembering former first lady rosalyn carter today. john and sara are off today. this is cnn "news central." this morning a mother of one of the newborns evacuated from gaza into egypt, and she is speak out. her baby is among the 28 newborns now receiving care in egypt after evacuating from the al shifa hospital in northern gaza. i wanted to warn you that some of the images coming out are tough to watch. the evacuation and journey is a dangerous one. the medics are seen at the rafah crossing to transport the babies to safety. eleni giokos is joining us with the latest. what was the mother able to get out saying? >> she was trapped in the al shifa hospital, and she says that war was raging around and inside of the hospital. she describes a harrowing situation. she says that the baby was born prematurely, and says they ran out of oxygen and milk, and explains conditions, and how petrifying it was for her. she also talks about the evacuation into egypt, and i know that you mentioned moving from al shifa hospital, and into egypt, but there was a stop first at the el emirati hospita and they stopped there to stabilize the babies and then on to egypt. this is what she had to say. >> translator: thankfully the coordination was very good. they called us to come to the hospital. i was one of the displaced. within hours, we were here and well received. egypt is the best place on earth. >> reporter: she says that the babies trapped were innocent of the war, and she says that she was trapped at the hospital as well. and she says they were trapped at the border for a week with incue bays or the and waiting, and waiting for the babies. they were waiting for 36 babies and only 28 arrived. the doctors in al shifa said that some of the babies lost their lives because they didn't have the medical equipment to treat them. and the egyptians were there ready and waiting to receive them, and all they had to do is to get them across the border. but we know that the hospitals are running out of fuel, and these are the stories as they are taking on more injured palestinians, but this is one of the most important evacuations that we have seen. >> that we have seen today for sure. eleni, thank you for the update. so many dynamics here. new video of the hostages released. the idf says it shows two hostages being taken into the hospital. one by stretcher taken into the hospital. oren liebermann has the report. >> reporter: we crossed into gaza by dark of night and didn't arrive until 3:00 in the evening, and it was dark because it is a night, and also, gaza has had not had power for days, and that made it more difficult as we got to the al shifa complex. then we came to see one specific thing, and that is the newly exposed tunnel shaft that the idf had revealed days earlier, and from what we saw, it is first to emphasize it was pitch black, and when we turned on the lights, it was dim lights for the brief period. we were able to see the structure down into the ground itself on the complex of the hospital. it was apparent to me that the structure itself was substantial. it was built of concrete and looked like in the middle, the pole that was the center of a spiral staircase. the idf gave us and revealed video they had from the camera on a special asset they had sent down. it showed not only the tunnel shaft of 10 meters and 33 feet down, but the tunnel itself running for some 55 meters and more than 150 feet, and at the end of the tunnel, there is a sharp turn, and the metal door they have not opened says the idf, because they are fearing that it is booby trapped. is that because they have uncovered a tunnel underneath the hospital, and using as command and control as israel as asserted in no. b -- asserted? no. but they are trying to put forward compelling evidence, and in is the most come pelling so far. and they are showing a underground tunnel shaft under the hospital. hamas has denied the network. but it is critical for the hamas to continue the operations there, and that is international criticism mounts with the number of palestinians killed in gaza rising, idf needs to prove that there is a structure underneath the hospital, and that is what they are trying to do here. we saw a part of the case they are trying to build. oren liebermann, cnn, in tel aviv. >> oren liebermann, thank you. so a deal to get potentially dozens of hostages released may be close as ever. the white house is expressing cautious optimism to get some of the 200-plus hostages released from hamas. they have been held by hamas terrorists since october 7th. sources say that a recent draft of the recent draft shows a four to five-day pause in the fighting to release them. over the weekend, secretary deputy john finer did not get into the details of the negotiations, but he did say this. >> we think that we are closer than we have been perhaps at any point since the negotiations began weeks ago. there are areas of disagreement that have been narrowed if not closed out entirely. >> joining me to talk more about this is the cnn global affairs analyst kim dozier, and talk to me about your sense of these hostage negotiation, and all of the reporting is that they are closer than ever, but still not a deal. so you have to wonder what the impact is of just talk about the deal being closer than ever, who that impacts most in term of the negotiation, and what do you see in this? >> with, the first rule of reporting on the negotiations is that when it is quiet on all sides, that is when it is serious, and something might be about to be resolved. but when you are hearing from the qatari individuals publicly and privately that they are that of the arrangement is spoiling what they believe should go through. in this case, one regional official had told me that netanyahu's government has balked at some of the aspects that hamas is demanding. they don't like the five-day pause, because they believe it is going to give hamas time to regroup. and b.b. netanyahu needs time to get his own coalition on board to agree to this. and every time there is some sort of complication or reflation in public that it is almost done, it is sure to delay it a few more days. >> this important aspect around it is the talk around it is seen as a part of the process of the negotiation as well, which is important, and so hard for the families to also have to be dealing with this at the same time. i also want to ask you about the video that oren liebermann was talking about, the videos released by the idf, and the tunnel video that they have found from al shifa hospital from october 7th they appear to say it is the hostages brought through the hospital. it is appearing that hamas is working in and through the hospital, but proof of the hamas command center under the hospital has not yet been revealed, and not yet satisfying to many folks. do they need to provide more evidence? >> well, how you receive it is depending upon the way you are onlooking. from the israeli perspective, there is definitive proof on the grounds and they have shown security footage gleaned from the hospital systems, itself, showing two hostaging being treated there just after they were taken. and they also found the bodies of two hostages in nearby buildings. for them, that should prove it. for the international community, it is as if we want to see something that looks like a command center from the movies, hard wired with phones, stacks of ammunition, and when the fact of the matter is that hamas had time to move equipment out of the area as the israelis approached above ground. so i don't think that anyone is going to be satisfied from either side. >> good point. john finer, and we played interviews from him over programs on the weekend, and now, he says that -- well, let me play it and how he said it. >> what i will say is that we have been quite clear that israel can defend itself, and the right to go after the hamas leadership that have fled to the southern part of gaza and sought refuge there. >> and so, kim, what happened, and is going to happen as israel makes a push to the south. what are you hearing about that, and kin of what the message is going to be or need to be or how they are going to have the deal with that when that is exactly what they have sold so many civilians in gaza to go as well? >> well, the problem is that there is no safe zone for the palestinian civilian, and the israelis have talked in the beginning of setting up some areas to retreat to, but it had to be in cooperation with the united nation, and so far, some massive tent encampment area free from bombing has not materialized, and in the meantime, of course, some hamas leader would have fled to the south, to continue the fight, and fight another day, and israel has said that they will go through the whole gaza ter roi territory to flee. and so now they have to wait and say, we are coming your way and find a new place the hide. it is painful to watch, and also from the international community's perspective, their hands are tied, because everyone has limited access to gaza territory. it is painful to watch though as from, if you are watching israel over the years to respond to crises, they can normally bring supplies in, but in this case, with every step, they also face danger and threats. >> and yes, on a level they haven't before, for sure. thank you for coming in, kim. it is great to see you. >> thank you. and so, coming up, one of the appeals justices is looking at the gag order from donald trump, and saying that the first amendment rights are not under broadly attack. the new details from inside of the courtroom. and also, details about the funeral services of former first lady rosalyn carter, and the legacy she is leaving behind. no celebrations for the president biden's birthday today, but there are the latate of t the electioion polllls. right now, one of the judges to decide the fate of donald trump's gag order is saying that his first amendment rights are not broadly under attack. the trump legal team is fighting to get that gag order lifted in the election subversion case, and the arguments are that it is a constitutional basis that it is hurting his ability to campaign. so joining evan perez outside of the courthouse. what are you hearing so far? >> well, kate, you are hearing a lot of the pushback from these judges, three judges on this appeals court panel. they are pushing back on the concept that just because donald trump is a political candidate, is the legal candidate right now and system of the polling that it does not mean that there can be restrictions on his speech ahead of the criminal trial that is set to start here in washington in march. we are hearing from john sower who is also, you know, taking a little bit of departure from some of the arguments that they have made, and pushing idea that the former president is a political candidate and that it is unconstitutional for a judge to try to filter this speech that he can make while out on the campaign trail, but in his arguments in court here today, he has also had to temper that a little bit saying that it does not matter that donald trump is a political candidate, but here is john sower describing the unprecedented nature of this restriction. >> the order is unprecedented and sets a terrible precedent for future restrictions on political speech. this is a radical departure of what is considered a restriction of a criminal defendant who is campaigning for political office and in a hotly contested campaign for the highest office in the united states of america. >> reporter: and kate, what we are hearing now is that the judge is also pushing back a little bit on the government's argument that this restriction is necessary and the way it is worded is appropriate. one thing that john sauer is having some success on is that she is talking about the targeting of the members of the special counsel team, and perhaps a little better wording of the restriction, kate. >> and with this unprecedented setup with donald trump a current and front running candidate for president once again, it sets up that this is a fascinating appeals court setup. i am interested in how this whole discussion goes. thank you, evan. and we have fascinating thingbes to talk about and that why i have the former prosecutor of the u.s. district court with us. great to see you, sara christoph. and i want to talk about the snippet here, because the fight of what is political speech and what is potentially damaging to the judicial process, and this is an exchange between one of trump's attorneys and the panel here. >> criminal speech obviously between core political speech which is part of the campaign speech that is -- >> i don't think that kind of labeling it core political speech begs the question of whether it is in fact political speech or whether it is political speech aimed at derailing or corrupting the criminal justice process. you can't simply label it that, and then conclude your balance and test that way. we have to balance. >> so what is your reaction there? >> well, the issue for trump's team here, and the problem with that argument is that the law is pretty well established that the court has the ability to temper speech in certain ways. right. his right to free speech is not unlimited, and the court can temper that speech for safety and ensure justice. so that is the wall that trump's team is hitting here with that argument. >> obviously, this case is not happening in a vacuum, and part of why we are having this hearing because trump is running for president. if you are looking at the calendar of the hearings and the campaign events and the primary elections, sometimes they are back-to-back, and so clearly a dynamic that we are going to be seeing here. so to that point, what is the balance between someone's first amendment right to speak as a citizen, but also as a candidate for president and doing so in a way that may be harmful to the judicial process? >> well, the judge has to tailor the gag order very narrowly, and tried the do that, but the trump's team argument is better if it is clear and narrow enough, and does it really make it clear to the former president what he can and cannot say. the court is getting a little bit of traction that way, and the court may say that we can impose a gag here, but maybe the gag order needs to be a little bit differently worded. >> that is the point is that the gag order in question is to never talk about anything close to this case, but it is more narrow in scope. >> that is right. the gag order in place, it is suspended now while this appeal is pending, but it is prohibiting language out of the president and his team that targets the witnesses in the case, and the prosecutors in the case, and court personnel in the case. >> and you and i were talking about the court panel is entering unchartered territory here, and will it be upheld when you are talking about the process, and what is so significant about the process that we are seeing here? >> well, it is probably interesting for them from the legal standpoint, right? it is interesting to them to make new law, because they have a whole history of lawings case law to go by, but they are in new territory here, and they have a chance to make new law here, and know that the law will go up to the supreme court, and for the supreme court to take a look at. >> while this hearing is ongoing, and based on the snippets coming out, the trump side of things has run into a wall, but it is a long hearing. thank you, sarah. >> yes, thank you. and president biden with the new poll numbers and the age as an issue for voters heading into 2024. plus, new details coming out about the ceremonies plan to celebrate the life of former first lady rosalyn carter. we'll be right back. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. ♪ ♪ this morning, the nation is mourning the death of former first lady rosalynn carter, and she passed at 96 years old yesterday. she was a global humanitarian, a trailblazer, and she had an incredible love story with former president jimmy carter. she had many passions as we have learned over the decades in public life, and famously has said this, there are only four kinds of people in the world -- those who have been caregivers, who who are currently caregivers, those who will be caregivers and those who will need caregivers. that is one of the many causes that she gave her life so. she founded the institute of caregivers to support those caring for the aging, ill and disabled. joining us now is the ceo of the institute jennifer olson. thank you for coming in. what does mrs. carter's passing and now the legacy mean for all of you today? >> well, thank you for having me, kate. obviously, we are heartbroken with the news of mrs. carter's passing, and the thoughts are with president carter and the carter and smith families in this challenging time. mrs. carter's passing means for me that it is our turn for each of us to take on the work that she led us in to support the nation's 53 million family, friends and neighbors who are caring for someone who is ill, sick or disabled. >> and so, this was a central cause for her, and tell us why this was so important for her. >> for her, it was deeply personal. at the age of 12, her father was diagnosed with cancer and passed away shortly thereafter, and she watched her mother balancing raising children and care giving and working, and she saw the complexity. then in the lead-up to the governor's mansion and the white house, she would speak to people about mental health, and another passion, and realize that there was a person standing next to or with the person who had mental health challenges, and she saw this what was a visible front line of people who themselves didn't have anyone caring for them. she started to realize that those individuals, care gives were experiencing physical and mental health challenges themselves. >> how has the mission changed for the institute over the years since it was founded this is. >> i would like to say we are were in the very local georgia mode over the first 30-plus years, and then a few years ago, mrs. carter and i were having a conversation about how there were so many more needs outside of georgia, and so she encouraged to us go national, and take what we had learned here and apply it to other care giver experiences, and so to take the work that we had done with the veterans caregivers, and alzheimer's caregivers and look beyond the diagnoses and conditions and support the caregivers at every stage of the journey. >> what do you think that rosalynn carter, the ultimate care giver to the caregivers would say about the work that would need to be done today? >> i think that she would say that there is a lot of work to be done. she called for an office of care giver health thinking that the government needs a champion to be focused on this very large population, 1 in 5 adult whose physical, mental and financial health is struggling behind the scenes. she would say there is a need for us to be advocates, but also to be good neighbors and friends to the caregivers amongst us, whether it is the person at the grocery store or going home is going home the take care of care giver responsibility, and so i would ask you the check on the care giver in your life. >> it is a beautiful thing, and calling on so many levels. jennifer, it is so wonderful to meet you, and thank you for coming in. >> thank you. it is president biden's 81st birthday and why the commander in chief is marking the birthday milestone with a low key family celebration. and a huge shakeup in the tech world. sam altman, the former openai ceo has landed a new job. wherere he is heheaded next.t. today is president biden's birthday and turning 81 years old and it is coming at a moment when there is fresh concern over his age, which is evident in the new polling numbers, and the polling numbers are showing the troubling signs in the moment in this snapshot in time about the approval time especially among the younger voters. the nbc poll shows that donald trump is holding a four-point lead among the voters 18-34 years old in a hypothetical matchup between trump and biden. now, what are you hearing with this response of the polling numbers and the white house as they know that the questions about the president's age have been ongoing for some time? >> well, kate, when you are speaking to the voters, it is clear that the age is the greatest liability, and the white house and the campaign have acknowledged it privately and downplay it publicly. he is the oldest president in history ahead of ronald reagan who was 77 ahead of the second term, and betsy kline reports that the biden advisers are arguing a double standard with the news coverage focused on president biden's age than president trump's age for instance, and they are insisting that voters are insisting on other issues and that age is not a deciding factor next november, so they are arguing that the president's record of achievement, and the president's infrastructure law, and the policy achievements is going to be front and center next year. team biden knows that trump is a few years younger than biden and they have highlighted some of trump's recent gaffes including the city he was in, and calling barack obama his leading political opponent, and mixing up the hungarian prime minister's country, and argue with age comes wisdom and experience and we have seen the president recently engage in the long strenuous trips, and high stakes trips with world leader as evidence of the stamina. but the young voter that i have spoken to have expressed concern over the war with israel, and the age is something that the campaign is going to have to address. >> thank you, eva. and cnn political analyst, and the boston bureau chief from the "boston globe" jackie kucinich joining us, and when you are looking at the polling, it is not what the president wants to see for his birthday, and what is the risk here in term of the younger voters? >> it does seem like, and again, you are very right, it is very early, but however, getting the voters to turn out is likely to be one of the biggest issues going into the election year, and giving them something to vote for. you have seen the younger voters express frustration, and the fact that student loan debt was not canceled. rightly or wrongly, they are not happy with the president about that, and extinuating circumstances, but it was not his fault that the plan was not able to go through, an inflation, and the economy and not feeling like they could buy a house, and really, those kitchen table issues and then adding on to it, the mass disapproval of the younger voters with the israeli-hamas war, and how biden has handle it. right now, you are seeing all of that pent-up frustration reflected in the polling. and will that continue? as eva mentioned, biden campaign is trying to stress his achievements, and the things that he has done to make the lives of everyday people better, and that is the case that you can continue to make. >> jackie, stay with us for a second, because we have an important update to make, and president biden is talking about the turkey pardonning happening ahead of thanksgiving in a few days. let's listen in for a bit. >> i have never seen a chicken that bit. a few days ago i visited another family in minnesota and talking about the pride of the small towns and communities and rural communities, and the pride to know that you can stay there and continue to keep their farms, and how, because of the investments that we are makings we are restoring hope so people can stay home, and children don't have to leave if they want to stay and make a live and the farm. look, it matters, and thank you to all of the families around america who feed and fuel the nation and the world i might add. yeah, the world. [ applause ] the national turkey presentation and pardon marks the official start of the holiday season. we are here in washington to share joy and gratitude and have a little bit of fun. this is the 76th anniversary of this event. now, i want you know that i was not there on the first one. i was too young to make it up [ laughter ] one thing they want to make cleeshgs it was not clear then, you know, even though liberty and bell from minnesota, they are named for philadelphia and pennsylvania, and the names have a new appreciation for let freedom ring. and so i am told by the national turkey federation by liberty and bell they love honey crisp apples. not bad, huh. ice hockey. i sure as hell would like to see them play ice hockey. thousand lakes and the mall of america. now, just to get here, liberty and bell had to beat some tough odds and competition. they had to work hard to show patience and be willing to travel over 1,000 miles. you could say that even it is harder than getting a ticket to the renaissance tour or the tour down in brazil now. and now, besides being a tour where they have a new home at the university of minnesota. do i bring them on up, or do i do it over there? that is a big bird, man. i am impressed. i hereby pardon liberty and bell. all right. congratulations, birds. congratulations. look, now, let me conclude on a serious note about why we have thanksgiving in the first place. to remind ourselves that we sometimes forget this, how we have so much to be thankful for as a nation. this week, we'll gather with the people we love and the traditions that each of us have built up in our own families, and we will think about the loved ones that we lost including just yesterday when we lost former first lady rosalynn carter who walked her own path inspiring nation along the way. and we will remind ourselves that we are blessed to live in the greatest nation on the face of this earth. that is what i see when i travel america. i have met so many incredible people who do many incredible things -- that is the president pardonningkeyturkeys, liberty and bell, and about 42 pounds each. >> how can you be serious at this moment? >> it is like grounds hog day, and it is hard to explain to people. >> and it is like looking down from space. >> they are beautiful birds. now, before i went there, i was talking to jackie kucinich about president biden's election prospects of the next year, as we reset here. >> jackie can talk turkey, and she can totally do it. >> he does not want to run afowl of voters. >> there it is. there it is. look, i don't want to spoil the mood for biden, but before this, we were talking about the poll numbers that were not so great, and job approval numbers of voters 18-34, and so from 34% to 26%, and i spoke to some of them in september, and this is what some of the voters told me on the campus at the time. >> reporter: how many of you think that president biden is too hold to be president again? so, why do you feel that way? >> he makes a good president, but there is not a lot of representation for our generation and the entirety of the government right now, and i would like to see more of that. >> i would like to see candidates who are appealing, and biden and trump are fossils. >> fossils, and that is his words and not mine. and so, trump is not that much younger if he ends up to be the candidate for the gop. and why is this more of an issue for biden than trump? >> i believe it is a case for both candidates, and we will see it as the case goes on, because as you see that it is going to places like wisconsin where the reporter was earlier in the year, and she was here for both voters on the democrats and the republicans throwing up their hands at the choices here. this is again why the turnout matters, and it is a trope almost at this moment, but particularly for biden getting the biden coalition back together and back and excited to vote for him, and not only young voters, but black voters and latino voters to come out again. it is going to be his biggest challenge. but you heard it there. and even if it was a light-hearted event, you heard him talking about the rural, and sorry, people in the rural communities, and make a joke about his age, which we have seen him do more of the make light of the fact that if you cannot change the fact that he is 81 years old, and you will be hearing more of that, and maybe not at a turkey pardon, but going forward. >> and thinking of the things that you are thankful for, jackie kucinich, i am thankful for you the stick around through the turkey our conversation. appreciate it. coming up for us, sam altman the just ousted ceo of openai and chatgpt creator already has a new job. hundreds of openai employees are threatening to revolt essentially now and the stock market giving altman a big boost and a warm welcome. wewe will be r right back.k. ( ♪♪ ) welcome to big tobacco's fantasyland. the industry's idea of a healthier tomorrow. where vapes are deemed safer. nevermind that they'll increase your risk of lung cancer. and they're anti-aging. because you're more likely to die younger from a stroke. in big tobacco's fantasyland, the deadliest industry can rebrand itself as your friend. the world of artificial intelligence. microsoft announcing it's firing chatgpt creator sam altman after he was fired by openai just on friday. >> cnn's yurkevich joins us now. what does this all mean for the tech world and the future of ai? >> we all use artificial intelligence, whether we know it or not. e-commerce, customer service, health care, we have in-home devices, changing the thermostat, that uses artificial intelligence. a lot of us know it because of chatgpt and this was created by sam altman who was until friday the ceo of openai. he was ousted on friday and just about 60 hours later he now has a new job at microsoft. microsoft had already invested in openai, $13 billion, they own 49% of the company and now they just got their biggest asset, which is sam altman who is now going to be doing artificial intelligence at microsoft. and potentially taking with him hundreds of employees from openai who wrote this open letter this morning over 500 of them, that's most of the company, essentially calling on the board of openai to resign after what they say was the mishandling of the firing of sam altman. but really what is at the core here is how do we as a society approach artificial intelligence? sam altman was saying we need to put our foot on the gas and make sure that we are moving artificial intelligence into the future. the board, on the other hand, felt like they needed to dial it back, let's look at potential regulation around this. a lot of people say could artificial intelligence be weaponized and that's really at the core of what the discrepancy was. clearly, though, microsoft with this hiring doesn't feel that way. they want the biggest leg up in the artificial intelligence race to beat google, to beat amazon and now they have that with sam altman. >> you were talking how the markets were reacting favorably for microsoft with this move. how are they doing now? >> microsoft hit an all time high this morning on the announcement of hiring altman. microsoft stock up right now, still moving. this really does show that wall street also is very encouraged by this move and also potentially realizes that artificial intelligence is the future. it is the now and it is the future. >> and markets are reacting to that. >> sam altman has said very little but he said a total of four heart emojis in response to people sending support in some cases. vanessa yurkevich, thank you so much. thank you for joining us all. this is "cnn news central." from me and kate. 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