>> saying, now that this is taken executive order is going to test the proposition e absolutely opposed donald trump, but, but we don't want to be complicit in joe biden and doing things that we don't like and i think some of these conversations we're having last go around when they were thinking about a backing this bipartisan bill it ended up stalled in congress because of donald trump. a lot of the active is i were to obvious talking to we're ready to swallow the pill on that as long as there was something else moving forward that was more comprehensive, more compassionate towards immigrants who are here now and so i think the politics on these are complicated, but i do think in many ways progressives were prepared for this based on what was happening before. >> of course, is just one issue where progressives are not thrilled with their party leader later in the white house, you have great reporting a scoop this morning talking about a different group on a different topic the group called sunrise really set about biden and what he's not doing it necessarily on climate change for now, the group this is sunrise. >> for now how the group is taking a wait-and-see approach. but officials are clearly sounding the alarm that sunrise activists may not support biden even after he passed historic climate legislation that they helped craft, right? >> sunrise was a big youth movement, very progressive, very involved in drafting biden's climate agenda than unity agenda with bernie sanders and 20 20, they were in there helping him drafted and they're upset with him on two issues. >> one, these gone a little far and some of the fossil fuels hasn't bad enough fossil fuels. the will obey action. >> but when you read what they're saying carefully, they're also very upset about gaza in the war that israel-hamas war and for that group to be effective, it's a volunteer but grassroots group. >> they have to have their volunteers motivated and they have to have their volunteers ready to talk to their friends and make the case for joe biden. and with the group is saying now, nothing's fine until they can come out from give a full-throated decision and all these decisions, it's always a question the alternative sunrise is not going to endorse donald trump. i think we can be pretty careful and that's just pretty clear on that. just how we'll apathetic they're going to be. and it speaks to a larger challenge to biden campaign mass, which is motivating their young people and motivating progressives exactly what it's why i wanted to get that in it's a great reporting. everyone stand by coming up dramatic, new details from inside the courtroom and hunter biden's gun trial and ex girlfriend is now on the stand after his it's ex-wife. was there earlier and senator john fetterman says he never thought an award from your shiva university would be on the bingo card for his life but if you see there his life has taken a term, particularly his political life, thanks to his steadfast support for israel. he's going to join us later this hour. >> five good things. listen wherever you get your podcasts if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with cars sega, because they're places like to be for c-cl can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar. >> a rare life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur, stopped taking four sika and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of disinfection and allergic reaction or ketoacidosis at best you credit. we know running a business takes everything you have, and only a certain kind of leader has what it takes. every new challenges years to solve. and there's no such thing as off the clock you carry the weight of the problems but you're resolved never wavers. no one else can do what you do. we know your drive. we know your determination. you've come far enough to know successes for those who take it this due credit funding. what's next? 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h, i didn't say anything. keep going. i think there was a little bit of a of an interruption finished at that, please? >> oh i'm sorry you know, it basically jury nullification works in these kinds of cases where nobody was seriously injured the offense was transitory. >> it can be explained through addiction and now the defendant is a much better man, although frankly jury nullification has a bad history of the united states when it comes to crimes of violence, particularly against people of color but that's not this. this is a basic drug or gun or gun case. >> prawn, i always learn so much from you every time we speak. thank you so much. i hope you come back soon. >> that's up to you. just got a call. thank you, dan. we have your number so as the first lady sits in the federal courtroom where she is again with her son. the president is in paris, kicking off a five-day state visit. that begins with commemorating the 80th anniversary of d-day. that's tomorrow. but even over these president biden can't escape his election, your challenges today, democrats are pushing back hard on his behalf on a new story from the wall street journal behind closed doors, biden shows signs of slipping. now that is based on accounts from what the journal says is doesn't two people nearly all republicans who have interrupted actin with biden recently democrats say the reporters ignored people with positive things to say, the white house responded in part, quote, congressional republicans, foreign leaders, and nonpartisan national security experts have made clear in their own when you get calls saying i hear you talk reich as well within the bounds and phi and the reporting that i've done on this topic, i have found that too, they're very sensitive on it, but some of it is what plays out in public. >> as i said, i was in the room with biden yesterday. he is slower walking, he is slower talking and responding than he was even in 2020 when he was running, certainly when he was vice president, he is showing his age in some ways, but i have had the conversation with a lot of people who've been behind closed doors with him. and either this is a massive conspiracy covered bring up a president and full-on dementia or there are some things that happen when you get older. someone said to me a year ago, who's known the present long time, isaac, he was rambling a lot and i said didn't joe biden always ramble a lot? and he said, you know, that's true, but everything looks different with the context of aid the last thing just i would say on this that we do have this conversation about joe biden. we don't usually have it about donald trump, where you put aside the content of what trump says, yes or no and that there is syntax. >> i'm going to having problems. >> well, i think my response to the piece when i read it was now, do donald trump right? >> and we saw some of this play out in public like when he gave that very rambling disjointed speech on friday, he is not the person who used to be. we are going to talk more about donald trump and i'm going to come to you first. >> but before we get there coming up, we have an always outspoken senator john fetterman of pennsylvania. >> he's gonna be here alive lots of questions. what does he think of progressives warning, they won't vote for biden and what the president should do to pull up another win in his key battleground state of pennsylvania the increase in wildfires is exponential controllable with overwhelming kotb. the need to do something is urgent slightly birth would we have dry burdex and the at night on cnn i see what works for us makes it less power hello, trust so you can rise from pain i see is this dog food in your fridge? 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>> what do you say to that well, i wasn't i was very clear for saying that for years, so i'm not a progressive and i just identified myself as just a regular a democrat. >> so it really wasn't any noon news. now, eight years ago, i was a progressive, but the situations change and i've been very clear that i didn't leave that label, that label leaves me and i think it's much more important to be focusing on donald trump instead of kinds of purity tests and those kinds of issues i want to ask about pennsylvania yeah president biden has been to pennsylvania 39 times since he took office this year. >> he's been to the commonwealth seven times three of those trips have been to philadelphia is he taking the right approach to win pennsylvania again well, i really want to be clear. >> they joe biden beat trump and pennsylvania in 2020. he's going to do that in 24. it's going to be very close. donald trump is going to be strong in pennsylvania, but i've also been clear that pennsylvania joe biden understands that pennsylvania is a big state and showing up in erie, showing up in southwestern pencil plane, and in places like yorker, lancaster, and then the northeast. i mean, that's where he's going to show up because the pennsylvania picks the president just like it did in 2020 and in 2016, unfortunately, for trump, but that same situation now holds true in 2024. >> so it sounds like you're saying he should be more aggressive about branching out beyond philadelphia well you know what i'm what i'm suggesting is is they joe biden knows that and joe showed up in erie in 2020. he showed up in cambria county at johnstown and he showed up in bucks county and he did that. and i know he's going to do that in 20 24, and i really want to remind anyone watching, is that joe biden beat trump in pennsylvania by over 80,000 votes and it's gonna be close in 2024.