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presidential candidates usually have meetings were donors, pollster, voters, and strategists not probation officers? but that's exactly what's on donald trump's scheduled today. >> he'll have a virtual interview. the new york probation department, which must submit a pre-sentencing memo to judge juan merchan before trump is sentenced. next month. cnn's kristen holmes is talking to our sources in the trump campaign. so kristen, tell us more about that meeting and what else donald trump has on his schedule today? >> well, monday, i'm going to start with reiterating what you just said that there's absolutely nothing standard or routine about the fact that a former president is sitting down with a probation officer, but that being said, it is pretty routine for someone who has been convicted of a felony before their sentencing to sit down with this probation officer, have this pre-interview that is going to form really the report that is sent to juan merchan that could impact how donald trump is sentenced or what his punishment actually looks like. so donald trump will be down in mar-a-lago. they're doing this virtually sitting with his attorney, todd blanche, talking to a probation officer in new york as they put together this report before that july 11, in sentencing. >> now the rest of his de it looks like kind of a campaign trail. >> he's going to be delivering remarks at the dan barry institute event. now this is a bar, right? christian conservative group who won of their goals is to quote unquote eradicate abortion completely. now i am told donald trump's remarks are very brief. they don't touch on abortion, they just talk about religious freedoms and freedom of the press this is more of an introductory video, but that really goes to show you how donald trump's still continues to try and walk this fine line talking to these far-right christian conservative groups about being anti-abortion. but not really talking about abortion and itself. we know we wants to take credit for it while at the same time trying to distance himself from it. now, this is a pivotal moment for the campaign. they are trying to separate the legal from the campaign. we saw him on the campaign trail in las vegas over the weekend, making promises to voters. take a listen when i get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips, people making do i gonna do that right away first taken off as speaker? because it's been a point of contention for years and years and years and you do a great job of service, should take care of people now donald trump there obviously talking in las vegas, a place where it's critical to talk about taxing tips since it is an industry or place that relies on the hospitality and entertainment industry again, another big part of what they did in las vegas was launched latino american voters for trump as they tried to siphon voters away from joe biden house we're going to dive more into that in a minute. but first, let's dive into the numbers voters have now had a chance to sit with 34 guilty verdicts against donald trump for more than a week. but the jury is out on the impact those verdicts will have on the voters will decide this election students harry enten joins me now. so here we what are the numbers telling us? >> yeah, i think you hit it right basically matt's a slight movement towards joe biden after trump's conviction. but of course, the race was so close that even a slight movement towards joe biden could make a very big difference. we've had three polls that have been conducted since the conviction. we have them from reuters, ipsos, we haven't from new york times sienna college, cbs news, uga, and what you see all those poles is movement towards joe biden were intercept sosa two point movement. now, biden leads by two well within the margin of error, new york times-siena college was a recontact survey. respondents who had previously answered the poll three points pre conviction. now, one point for donald trump lead cbs news, yougov with the largest move of any of them. but again, only a three-point movement from a four-point trump lead to a one-point trump advantage. well, within the margin of error, the way we might describe this as a race that is way too close to call nationally. now you may be asking yourself, monte, why did we not see an even larger movement towards joe biden after donald trump was convicted on those 34 counts. well, s voters essentially what would be a major factor in your vote come the 2024 election. number one is still the economy at 81% inflation. number two, at 75%, the state of democracy number three at 74%, you have to go all the way hey, down to the seventh major factor to see the trump convictions. and that comes and get this at just 28% far less than the economy or flation the state of democracy, which are also in the 70s or 81% in the case of the economy. so the trunk convictions, not a major factor but then again, we have such a close race. so what's exactly going on given that joe biden's approval rating, his favorable rating is so low at this particular point. well, take a look here. is your 2024 vote more about judgments about joe biden, which is all the way down at the bottom of 22%, you normally wouldn't see that for an incumbent in facts slightly more likely voters say their judgments are about donald trump in 26% or the majority, 51% say they're 2024 vote is about comparing joe biden and donald trump. perhaps that's not too surprising given we have a quasi incumbent and trump against an actual incumbent, joe biden. >> and then you look at how well-liked these guys are, or perhaps better put, how well dislike these guys are. >> and what do we see on the positive and negative views of joe biden versus donald trump will look at this negative use dominate the day. 55% of voters have a negative view of donald trump, 56% have a negative view of joe biden, far less have a positive view of either one of those because gentlemen, and ultimately the election will come down to voters who don't have a favorable view of either one. and we'll just have to see how they go. mano. yes. so interesting that conviction, maybe small impact, but maybe a significant one will say, all right, ariane. thanks for that. thank you. i want to bring in my great political panel on this. cnn's jeff zeleny, seen as melin is nonna laura barron-lopez, a pbs knows that newshour and cnn's kristen holmes is back with us. nice to see you all. happy birthday, birthday boy has absolutely. >> since you are the birthday boy, i'll start off with you won one of the things that was interesting in this is in these numbers is about why people are supporting joe biden, why his supporters are moving in his direction increasingly, this is a shift between march and now about why they are backing joe biden, his supporters back then to oppose trump, 47%. >> that is a seventh. now it's 54% is 7%. uptick about why they're supporting trump. is that the biden, it's not because they liked them. in fact, he's down among voters as they, they liked them. but it's because they are out, because they're supporting their their just want trump to lose. is that enough for biden to win the election? well, we'll see if it keeps heading in that direction perhaps. but look the this is what the biden campaign has been hoping for, for voters to pay attention to the choice between donald trump and joe biden is opposed to having this election be a referendum on the biden policies. but as i travel across the country and talk to a lot of voters, it's still very much a mix. one thing is constant on both sides. the exhaustion and fatigue factor with both candidates but as we head into the summer here, the republican convention is next month. the democratic one in august. >> people are realizing this is the choice that they have. >> so that's, i think explained some of the top line number there. but look, these are on the margins. these are effectively just slightly outside the margin of error, but we know that this is going to be a extraordinary tight race, but that's what the biden campaign that's why the president is talking about these convictions. yeah, that's why he is sort of going hard after trump, but voters that i talked to still talk more about the economy, they still talk more about immigration, inflation certainly. so it's not clear that voters actually want either trump or biden to be talking about each other's problems. >> but as we facing this first ever meeting between the president, former president, and it probation officer today. what's interesting about those polls is that trump convictions are ranked lower on the list, 27, seventh most important issue among voters behind the economy, the inflation scene of democracy. so if you're the biden campaign do you take a look at that and say, all right, let's focus just on the bread and butter issues. but you still hammer home the fact that they are going out there campaigning against a convicted felon. >> i mean, their their main focus is going to be on the pocketbook brynn, bread and butter issues. i mean, but an abortion to the list that jeff mentioned. so there'll be talking about economy hey, they'll be talking about the rest of the monarch pros, they are talking more about immigration now, but it bortion is going to be a big thing for them to motivate their base and in addition to that, they will talk about the convictions. now, there are some former republican lawmakers who are citing with biden and his campaign who would like to see the biden campaign? >> even, more aggressively. >> hammer the convictions and talk more about that on a regular basis and use them to talk more about that. and so it remains to be seen how much they're going to lean into that yeah. and you mentioned abortion and trump as christmas reporting is meeting with virtually with an anti-abortion group today. >> this is how the cbs poll talks about whether this has an impact among likely voters the kind of impact a major factor, but 50% of likely voters, probably most of them are democrats in that. but minor factor is some effect are about not a factor you see 25, 25%. trump's comments have not really moderate. he's sort of been always all over the place a little bit during the primary but he was asked about his how he was responsible for the fact that he appointed 3.3 conservative supreme court justices who overturned roe v. wade i was able to get it done with the appointment of great justices, three great justices plus others that a joint them, as you know, we don't have to go into all the names, but they agreed. >> and they were there the courage to end roe v. wade. i think it's working the way that people wanted to work. and it's going to bring the country together so it's going to bring the country together. >> i don't think we have abortion has really brought the country together, but i guess what's interesting is that he's not moderating on this message. and this is of course what democrats hope can sway voters in some of these key battlegrounds to yeah, because he wants the credit for overturning roe v. wade and that's why here i'm talking about it. he's addressing as chris had mentioned earlier, an anti-abortion group he wants that as part of his constituency, but at the same time, he has that he's not going to sign a federal abortion ban. he said this should be left up to the states. we're also hearing that message reflected in what public n's are now saying on capitol hill in terms of what they're going to pursue legislatively. but this is a big political vulnerability for republicans. and we're getting a sense of how democrats are going to message on this as well because of the senate, they are having a number of show votes trying to force republicans to take tough positions on issues like contraception, access to ivf. all of those things. so it is clearly going to be a big issue. and one that republicans frankly haven't figured out how to talk about in just trump ever since he's come into the political scene has been all about base. it's always a base, base strategy, whether it's about abortion, whether it's about talking about the january 6 attack on the capitol. this is what he said. oh, just on saturday in las vegas about the dark on january 6 those j6 warriors, they were worries, but they were really more than anything else. they are victims of what happened all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that's what they were doing. and then the police say go and go in, go in water, set-up. that was what a horrible, horrible thing. >> and you know, that blows two ways. okay for that was sudden de, but okay. first of all, they're protesting a rigged election, wasn't raped as we, as we, as we know, he says the police were facilitating them to come into it wasn't they weren't facilitating their entrance. he says that this they were is essentially set up facts aside. is this one the trump campaign wants him to be talking about, because obviously the biden campaign is using this as a core of their message. >> yes. >> so i would put this on abortion in two separate categories one, no, they don't want them talking about january 6 and two, you can see donald trump shift. i mean, since after the attacks on anywhere six, how far he's really bought into these far-right conspiracies and perpetuated that there was a time in which he was saying he wasn't involved. now he's saying that he's going to pardon everyone who was involved in january 6. so no, that's not really the rhetoric that they want. trump focused on. they want him focus more on campaigning on issues like the economy that we've talked about, like the aggression. but this is something he's doing, throwing red meats the base, i will say on abortion, i know that we're not seeing him moderate, but he's really been saying the same thing. he is not going all in on abortion. he wants as mel said, the credit for overturning it so that he continues to have as base, but he doesn't want to talk about abortion because he believes that it's not a political winner and so that's why you see him kind of dance around this because he wants to take the credit for it. but then he also wants to be more moderate on it. but you can't have both. >> it's hard to have it both exactly. as you're donald trump. it's hard to have nuance to donald trump's rhetoric to say the least. all right. more coming out, we'll go to live to wilmington, delaware. were jury prison, the hunter biden trial are about dihedral closing arguments. and then start delivering henry james is cold, calculating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise, he also was compromised secrets spies, a nuclear game sunday at ten on cnn start, your day with nature me. >> the number one pharmacist recommended vitamin supplement brand maria, and julio thought their life would never slow down then, one day it finally you will mate to find inner 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