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given myself a small raise, join me at trying.com cnn this morning with kasie hunt next is thursday, june 20 right now, i'm cnn this morning. just seven days until president biden and donald trump face off on cnn's debate stage. >> and exclusive new reporting and how both camps are preparing. >> plus cleaning up the supreme court, the new post from democrats who question in the ethics of some of the justices. and the first tropical storm of this season could make landfill played fall anytime now. >> but mexico and texas there's are already feeling the effects i'd 5:00 a.m. here in washington. here's a live look at new york. >> good morning, everyone. i'm on a rod you in for kasie hunt. it's great to be with you this morning we're just one week out from cnn. the first presidential debate, which of course is right here on cnn, the two candidates gearing up to face off in atlanta for the first time in four years, president biden at camp david with a tight circle of advisers, donald trump, trying out a tank leinz with vp hopefuls and he's already slinging insults and some baseless claims against president biden ahead of the primetime showdown, anybody going is anybody going to watch the debate he's gonna be so pumped up. he's going to be pumped up. you know, all that stuff that was missing about a month ago from the white house what happened? >> who who left his somebody left it there all right. >> that's firm biden's debate strategy. he says, it's simple. all he has to do is let trump do the talking what do you think you need to accomplish on that debate stage say what i think of him saturday thanks. thanks. he said or off the wall? i want to be a dictator on day one. i wanted to move in a direction where it talks about suspending the constitution i won't have to share ready said remind people what he says and what i believe what he believed now, biden is dealing a little wind and his sales this morning, a new poll by fox shows him leading trump by two points among registered voters. >> that lead is still though within the margin of error. now, june 27 will be an historic night. the first time a sitting i'm present with debate. a former president. so joining me now to discuss all of this excess political reporter, steph night staff. good morning. thanks for being here in this early morning. >> so obviously this is prime time for debating at this moment. >> so cnn does have some new reporting which are reading this morning, but just how the two men are entering this phase it says how each man is preparing for the debate is ultimately a microcosm of their differences as candidates in each will enter the cns studio with different object divergent objectives. it goes on to say that biden has been focused on ways to hold trump accountable, mirroring the mirroring the broader political strategy that has white ethnic campaign have been deploying. it says trump is aiming to sure voters. he can be a steadier and more effective leader than his successor, despite all the issues and windows legal ones throwing a long time, how do you see it by now? >> when think it's really interesting that both campaigns have clearly bet on the fact that when they're together face-to-face, they'll remind american voters why they deserve a second term. these are known no one's, we're going into this, both of them have baggage with them, have things that can point to from their own administration's and they both have one or ability is going toe-to-toe in front of a light, in front of live audiences watching at home, watching how they to aging men, who perform under the spotlight, right and in many ways, how they say what they're going to say on stage is going to matter more than what they say people are waiting to see whether biden will come off as energize and in control, and whether trump will take a more measured approach than we've seen, for example, the first debate last time around when there was so much shouting that it was hard to really gain anything a perfect segue into the shouting match last time around from 2020 in that debate the question the question justice left. >> would you shut up? >> and who was on your list? joe, this is on you, right? >> gentlemen. i think pax6 court not going to give a look yes. so this time that'd be muting, the mice will be muted when they're not speaking. who does that actually benefit? you know, i've talked to some people say maybe this actually could benefit trump in some ways because troponin look particularly good the last time around when he trying to talk over biden the whole time. >> i mean, that's certainly something we hear from people well, in trump's circles that they think that rule could actually help trump and make him seem kinda come prevent him from being his own worst enemy and jumping in and kinda bulldozing biden. they are, as cnn reported, there are hoping trump is hoping to come across as more measured at some of the american public can trust. he has a lot at stake here, and of course he, he loves to jump in. we know that he loves to speak off the cuff, but he has a lot of stake lot at stake here, especially given all of his legal troubles leading up to the election. and we can we've seen that his campaign and trump himself have been trying to be much more disciplined this time around just for biden axios is reporting about a democratic strategists in touch with the campaign, saying it's unclear to many of us watching from the outside, what are the president and his core team realize how dire the situation is right now and whether they have a plan to fix it that is scary. >> there. >> they're concerned about him, his hair. >> well, how are you going to deal with this in this situation right now? and just really this skate of his campaign does the biden campaign realize they hear all the democratic bed wedding for lack of a better word, but oftentimes it discounted saying, we will the people voters will focus on the race when it gets closer to the election who's right? yeah. >> i mean, we certainly have heard from many democrats and people close to biden, people on the campaign who have been discounting some of these warning signs we have seen in the polls for the past several months. of course, this new foxhole does show that biden for the first time in a very long time is a little bit in front of trump when you look at general polling. but it's been a rough few months and there's, there's no way around the fact that biden's campaign is in danger and you just talked people around town and many people are expecting trump to win out in november at this point in time. and the reporting clearly shows that there are people close to biden who are concerned, who want him to take it more seriously, who want the campaign to take it more seriously? but we'll have to see whether we see another shift within the campaign or whether they just kind of stick to their guns. yeah, say let's keep touting the issues that we think matter. >> yeah. i know. >> you mentioned that fox poll. >> it is it's also notable. there was a shift on independence still in that poll and 44 to 52 biden ahead, but there's still significant margin of hair. he jumped eight points, i should say, for between may and now in that fox news poll, among independent support. but there's the margin of error a lot will change with the debate. steph guide. thank you for waking up in joining me very early this morning and for your insight, really appreciate it. all right. and don't forget, you can watch the first presidential debate next thursday, right here on cnn in streaming on max jake tapper and dana bash, moderate live from atlanta, beginning at 9:00 p.m. eastern up next one of the most direct and dire threat to american democracy today democrat's going after conservative supreme court justices plus will lead from fire crews in a form of rain hey but it could create an even bigger mass. and stuck in space. why two nasa astronauts will be stranded in orbit 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pursue victory at any cost i don't think they would be so eager to die house of the dragon, streaming exclusively on macs with their obscene ethical transgressions. >> they've completely forfeited their right to be called justice and unless i forget to do it from now on, they're just judge alito and judge thomas to me. >> all right. five words. they're from democratic congressman jamie raskin for the supreme court's to most conservative members. and just a few hours, the nation's highest court will meet and could issue decisions on a number of high-profile cases, including donald trump's donald trump's claim of immunity from criminal prosecution but on capitol hill, democrats are continuing their push for greater oversight and a new letter obtained first by cnn's annie grayer raskin in alexandria, ocasio-cortez are asking chief justice john roberts, to answer questions about what steps if any, he has taken to investigate ethics controversies involving conservative members on the court. justice alito and thomas have come under increased scrutiny in recent months. thomas for failing to disclose gifts and luxury travel. he received from a conservative billionaire and alito for flag flown outside his homes that seemed to indicate simply the for right-wing movements. now, republicans have pushed back on these democratic calls and here's what senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said. when i asked him earlier this month about alito's flags it seems to me they're just a nonstop attacks on the supreme court week after week after week, we need to leave the supreme court alone, protect them hi, i'm in joining me now to discuss is that cnn or border any greer who wrote the story on this democratic effort this morning. good morning to you and thanks for being here. >> luck. democrats. we'll, of course, they don't live members of the minority. they'll send letters and they'll push for oversight. those are easily dismissed, but obviously this is an issue that is animating the left, right now, republicans of course, are going to ignore it of course, i mean this letter is really democrats putting roberts in the hotseat. they're saying, show us your work. what have you done as the chief justice of the supreme court to look into these ethics concerns and specifically, what is the recusal process look like because we've seen both justices alito and thomas say that they are not going to recuse themselves from two very high-profile cases in front of the supreme court right now that there are concerns about and both having to do with the 2020 presidential election and the january anywhere he six capitol attack those cases. so this letter is asking roberts to answer written questions because roberts has refused to meet with democrats, senate democrats tried to schedule a meeting with him last month. so this is democrats continuing their push to try and pulled the supreme court accountable as they see this as a really important political issue for them. >> yeah, no question about it. and just on the question about recusal versus not, this is what the supreme court code of conduct for justices says about that question of justice should disqualify qualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which the judge's impartially yeah, it might be reasonably be questioned now. >> it's also up essentially to the justice themselves and they have decided not to do this. >> how do you think people will view? i mean, the immunity case could be could decided today and that is such huge implications obviously, immediately for this election. and the two federal criminal cases that trump is facing, how are people going to view this case coming down? these numbers is going to meet when they eventually role democrats will immediately dismiss whatever alito roberts sign onto right? >> i think democrats absolutely view this through a political lens and they are accusing the court of no longer being able to be impartial because of the accusations against an ethics concerns around justices alito and thomas. but this is i mean, we're dealing this is a long-standing issue, but we're dealing with separate branches of government here. and there really is not much that congress can do. i mean, that's what we're seeing, is this huge, this huge gap here where congress wants to act. there's not really much they can do. and roberts has made that clear. so democrats are trying to figure out how they can, how they can highlight what they view as these huge violations, especially coming up on november with these two justices sitting on the freedom corps with apparent violations. >> and obviously there's a key polowat but both for biden and for senate democrats running keep control of the senate on this issue. the question then bring it up. i do want to ask you about some of your reporting this week about congressman matt case the florida republican facing this ethics investigation. there is there was an announcement that was made by the ethics committee this week about what they were looking into regarding allegations of sexual misconduct. they said about potential illicit drug use, has denied all of this. he said this is a witch hunt, that there have been investigations after him diamond. again, the challenge though for him is that yes, the justice department, they investigate some of the stuff they had declined to prosecute them. the ethics committees are much lower bar it's. just simply about whether or not a member of congress acted unbecoming of a member of congress. that is a much different standard and something that any member, particularly gates, has to be a word concerned about. >> it's a totally different ball game here. i mean, we're not looking at criminal charges is not what congress does doj's, as you mentioned, dismiss that, but there are serious ethics concerns that the committee continues to investigate. and this was a really rare statement for the committee to make, which is notoriously very private about its work and really only puts out the final product. so to give us an update and tell us what they're investigating and what they're no longer pursuing really shows just how seriously they're taking this work and also just how profile it is. i mean, gates's continually attacking the ethics committee and making all sorts of claims about the investigation into him and totally undermining it in this, the ethics midi coming out and saying, we have a real investigation here. we've interviewed over half a dozen witnesses and we are continuing to pursue a number of leads. and this is investigation is not going away so some texts of all, this can you force led the charge to oust kevin mccarthy as speaker? he then blamed mccarthy for initiating this investigation. mccarthy himself has denied it. mccarthy mean tab, it wants to defeat gates in his primary later this summer, and we'll see this becomes an issue for error if there's a report issued before his primary, how does it affect things? very interesting development involving a member of congress who is denied those allegations. but we'll see what voters decide anywhere. thank you for coming in this morning. really appreciate it all right. >> i had tropical storm alberto said to make landfall in mexico and already proving deadly plus britain's prehistoric stone hedge defaced they are unpredictable sleeping giants three volcano has its own personality, or if we don't understand them, they are windows into part of our planet. lives will be lost violent earth, would liev schreiber sunday at nine on cnn. >> we do our stop and searches as quickly and efficiently as possible. >> be nice. >> do you think maybe we made things worse today it's called police work to address it. >> c or the other side of things work sooner or later you're going to ask the join us. >> i've already been in one arm i have a young teen were police in an area that could explode at any minute. and we're flying completely blind can you believe this dark, moody, a frank 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