actions the attorney general merrick garland oversaw actions that were taken by jack smith, the special counsel. she wanted to know, for instance, whether the attorney general, specifically on personally approved the indictment. this indictment against donald trump and a couple of other people who worked for him here in fort pierce. and she also questioned trump's attorneys when trump's attorneys emil bove beauvais, said that he believed that jack smith was essentially a shadow government the argument that they were making here today will, was that jack smith was illegally appointed by the attorney general because he came from outside the government. he's not someone who has been approved by the senate. this is a long-shot request, but it is one that the judge for some reason decided needed to be heard, needed to have have an entire hearing. and she also allowed outside parties are groups that had nothing to do with this case, to actually spend a couple of hours making arguments before her today. she did not rule from the bench as she tends to not do. but it is clear that she is entertaining pretty much every argument that donald trump his attorneys have to make and i take it to judge cannon will hold more hearings next week. is that right? oven that's right. >> well, this is the first of three hearings as she is scheduled on monday. where we're going to be in court, where the trump attorneys and the special counsel are going to square off over the issue of a gag order. now, the special counsel is asking for there the court to issue a gag order on the former president because of some of the incendiary remarks. he has made accusations, he has made the government says that is putting fbi agents at risk this is all over the search of mar-a-lago back in 2022, he is also she's also going to have a hearing on tuesday where trump attorney her knees are trying to get some of the evidence that was seized in that search at mar-a-lago, have that tossed aside as part of their efforts, again, to try to delay this case or to try to get make sure that it never goes to trial at all, wolf, all of this, of course, these delays that we're getting as a result of the judge entertaining pretty much every one of these is what's eating away at this calendar. it makes it very, very unlikely that we're going to get a trial anytime soon and certainly not before november evan perez in fort pierce, florida reporting and all of this. thank you very much. are legal and political experts are here to break all of this down for us, write down norm eisen. let me start with you but first i want to inform our viewers. you're on the board of a non-profit that actually filed a brief. you didn't sign it or contribute to it, but you know a lot about it. specifically involving trump's defense team arguing the jack smith should no longer b. the special counsel wealth. these arguments to knock out special counsels have been tried in court after court, before both democratic appointed judges and republican appointed judges, they have uniformly failed. >> and i think despite judge cannon's skeptical questioning of both sides, what we know from the hearing is there is no legal basis to challenge the appointment of special counsel jack smith here there's no constitutional infirmity know regulatory infirmity. this is an example of judge cannon's typical over caution when she confronts these issues she should not have wasted a day on it. >> i'll let me get a lisa adams into this conversation. at least your former federal prosecutor, you understand what's going on. a lot better than those of us who didn't go to law school. do. judge kenneth didn't issue a ruling today? how likely is this challenge to succeed? >> i agree with norm. i think it's highly unlikely for it to succeed, at least we all hope it is because as norm also indicated, this is kind of, well-settled. there is precedent and these arguments since have been made before other judges in the dc circuit, for instance, more recently with the appointment of bob mueller and they have been rejected. i think judge cannon was being very cautious. she allowed the defense to make a record. think that's also why she oddly allowed these friends of the court to make oral arguments, which i have to say it was an extraordinary step. i have never seen it in my years of practice and so i think she's going to take all of that back issue who are really, really shortly. and again, we don't know what she's gonna do, but i think it's unlikely that she would move to remove jack smith will find out fairly soon. i suspect phil mattingly, critics of judge cannon, as you well know, have noted repeatedly that other judges have previously rejected these sorts of arguments about removing special counsels that's been that's the history, right? >> that's history. and it's not just critics. i think you just need to look at the history and you can objectives. we say that whether it was in the hunter biden special counsel case robert molar is you were just citing back to nixon becton dickson case is back in the mid 70s that this is pretty settled at this point, or at least the precedent is pretty said. >> i think the one thing that i would dispute to some degree is that yes, they might not win this particular motion, but they're winning if you're trump's lawyers right now because you're drawing it out, it based on what aileen cannon has done it nor made the point over cautious, methodical, and some level having hearings on everything, even if it diverges from how the court usually operates down there it just gives the trump team what they want, which as you continue to push it further down the calendar, evans said it eats up the calendar. >> there's no way it happens before november. that's the goal. and in that sense, they're winning in some level. >> important point in a paula reid, you're watching all of this very closely, especially the us supreme court. we're all awaiting this ruling from the supreme court on whether trump should have immunity from any criminal prosecution. the earliest we can now get a decision from the nine justices. what next wednesday? >> yeah, that's what we expect in this relates to the other jack smith case against the former president related it's election subversion and january 6. >> and this case has enormous implications, not just for the former president, but for future presidents as well as one of the biggest questions on presidential power that the supreme court has contemplated in recent years in the lower courts, this idea that for the former president has some immunity or broad immunity has been completely rejected. >> but what was interesting is even though sources and trump-world didn't expect that this would be accepted by the high court during oral arguments, the justices it seemed open to at least recognizing even some limited immunity for presidents, which would mean this whole case goes back down to the lower courts. and a lot of folks have asking, well, why is it taking them so long? they've been in no hurry to move on. this jack smith asked him to decide this question back in december, instead, they waited for it to go through the appellate process, arrive at them and now we're in the last week. what we expect will maybe b. the last week and we're still waiting on this decision, so they're helping in that trump's strategy to the lash, taking a long time, but it's very significant decision that we're all waiting for. what do you think at least what's the most likely outcome? >> yeah, i think after listening to the oral argument, the most likely outcome is disco is going back to the district court for some factual findings. i think the court is most likely going to require the judge to decide what was official acts and what we're unofficial acts seem like. that's where they were heading. >> again, we don't know. we're going to have to wait until we see, but no matter what, i think the important point is that just like the classified documents case, it is going to kick this even farther down the road and i don't see that case going to trial before for the election in november. so get to that point if the strategy was to the leg, they have 16. do you see it of course, leases, right. >> it's going to be tough if there's a test to get that trial. that case to trial. but what you might get is a mini-trial because if there's a test for judge chutkan in dc. she's got to apply the evidence to the law. and that means she needs to take witnesses. we saw this in the removal of the georgia 2020 election interference case. there were hearings mark meadows, jeffrey clark, a mini-trial does donald trump have this immunity? or not? so that could have an impact, not the same as the trial, but we could have that same attention where the courts have been so important in this 2024 political season we bring fell into this conversation fill, as you know, a clerk to former supreme court justice anthony kennedy, i'm talking about leah lipman writes this in a new op-ed and let me put it up on the screen and read the reasons to think something is rotten at the court are impossible to ignore. >> this court has lost the benefit of the doubt for myriad reasons, including its willingness to act quickly in cases that benefit republican interests and quote, how is this delay likely to impact the court? i was that likely to impact the respect of the court and all of that? >> i think the court has very much particularly in the wake of the dobbs decision that struck down roe versus wade tract with where the entire country has seen its politics over the course of the last several years. where does now a very split issue, its popularity level has been kind of hovering around 40, 35 at its lowest point. it doesn't seem like it's going going up anytime soon. people on partisan basis have very clear views. the opinion piece that you're citing there is both comprehensive and it's compelling in the sense that it pulls together a lot of examples that she says prove their case. i have no reporting on how the court is deciding the timing of this specific case. what i do know though, is particularly heading into the november election, what this demonstrates more than anything else is a 6-3 conservative majority has actual repercussions. they have moved the court in a very clear ideological direction on some of most critical. and i think divisive issues inside the country that's the way it works on some level. and i understand why people might not like it or be viscerally opposed to it, but they are acidic confirm judges. and if you're the biden campaign, i think you're looking at this and you're looking at the age of the current the court and you're making this a central issue like donald trump very effectively, did 2016. >> it's interesting, there's another key ruling we're all waiting for, as you know, this, paula on involving the january 6 defendants, it could also impact the criminal case potentially against donald trump involving january 6. what are their stakes in this specific? okay. >> so this is one of the other big outstanding cases before the high court in here. it's a question of when you can charge someone with obstruction. does it apply to the insurrection? what we saw on january 6 or is obstruction of an official proceeding, is that limited mostly to investing? now, here you are focused on a defendant who was charged with seven different counts. one of them is obstruction, depending on how this case goes, this could potentially impact the case against the former president president, when he talked to his lawyers, they refer to this case and the immunity case, as quote, our cases. but to phil's point, i think while these cases rep, potentially have an impact on the former president when it comes to the election, the outstanding abortion case out of idaho, depending on what the justices do there that decision could have the biggest impact on the election in terms of galvanizing voters will be watching all of these decisions. and there'll be coming in the next two weeks or so. we suspect, although they could delay, we'll see what happens, guys. thank you very, very much. just ahead. news. just coming in from las vegas a judge dismissing charges against six republicans accused and a sweeping fake electors scheme. plus one of donald trump's closest advisers filing an emergency appeal in a last-minute bid the stay out of prison stay with us urine the situation the athletes in awr portion a limit of what is capable ready to show the world how good i am. >> i trained all over the globe. and that's what you're going to see an awl whole different beast we wednesday night dynamite it, aid on tbs there are giant mug they for the men and woman building daibes next generation submarines. >> they are giants and what they do because they work in a place where they can grow they can learn the skills to build careers as powerful as the beast. they four, we build giant because it takes to build one a lot of people need to replace their windows or patio doors, but they put it off because they think it'll be too expensive. hi, i'm anne romer. i'm here with michael smith from renewal by anderson. you really work with the customers to find affordable solutions. >> we do and where the replacement window division of anderson, one of the largest window manufacturers in north america. so we can usually offer our customers larger discounts and better financing than smaller companies are contractors. >> other window companies don't offer your same window and door installation method ron scholars have installed thousands of windows or windows are manufactured to precisely fit your specific window openings. being custom-built also means if you have any beautiful trim that you'd like to keep, we can often install your windows without impacting that trim. >> you won't get this with most vinyl windows and you offer a free window and patio door diagnosis. >> we do will come to your home and assess your current windows, show you where you might be losing energy and take measurements. then we'll leave you with an exact price quote that's good for an entire year. >> so you're not a high pressure company. >> my background is in home remodeling as a carpenter. i've seen every window problem out there okay. so now i just want to help homeowners make their homes more beautiful and comfortable with the right window and your patio doors are really gorgeous. >> they are and their engineered to easily open and close for years. and with multiple locking points on our patio doors, they provide even greater security, but is so great to hear michael. thank you. >> before june 30th, by one window, patio door or entry door, and get the next one 40% off. that's 40% off with a minimum purchase of four plus save an extra $100 on your entire purchase with no money down, no monthly payments and no interest for 12 months. >> this offer ends june 30th for a free appointment with renewal by anderson call 1805011400. that's 1805011400 you know, when i take the mic out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that this bad boy i can fix anything. yeah, tough day at work nice cruiser sorts. you write out remember it and i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. >> and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills and it's hop on the bike, man, come on and you've got to pay your bills you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number one motorcycle insurer? 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>> yeah. well, if this was a judge again, in nevada who dismiss the charges against half a dozen pro-trump fake electors in nevada. and the reason the judge made that decision was she essentially said that this case was brought in the wrong jurisdiction. it shouldn't have been brought to her and clark for county near las vegas. it should have been charged in northern nevada now that have an attorney general, aaron ford said after this decision, he told the associated press, other reporters who attended this hearing that he would go straight to the supreme court he said the judge got it wrong and will be appealing a immediately. but defense attorneys in this case feel like this could effectively b. the end of the case, they believe that there was a statute of limitations at play here that's going to prevent the government from being able to continue to fight this battle. wolf or you're also tracking steve bannon's attempted sarah to delay prison time. >> what can you tell us about that? >> that's right. well, if it's something of a long shot, but steve bannon went to the supreme court today asking them to press pause on his it's prison sentence. the one that's set to begin on july 1st, that comes after an appeals court said yet late late yesterday evening that they were not going to pause at this prison sentence it's again this has been a long time coming. it was two years ago that steve bannon was convicted of contempt of congress for refusing to provide documents are testimony to the house committee investigating january six he was sentenced to four months behind bars, but that was put on hold while he tried to appeal his conviction, something that he's so far been unsuccessful in. so this is sort of his last ditch attempt to try to stay free and continue these appeals. now, bannon's rhetoric has gotten even more pitched in the run-up to this potential prison sentence. he's vowed that if donald trump wins another term, they are going to go after the department of justice. take a listen to a little bit of what he's been saying on his podcast we are going to purge doj. >> we're going to take apart the fbi the fbi, the american gestapo, that building of pennsylvania avenue. we don't need four million dollars for new headquarters are not going to need a head course and not going to be the fbi and will if it probably won't surprise you to know that bannon and his team believed that department of justice wants him behind bars now because they don't want him speaking to his viewers in the run-up to the presidential election, bannon's attorney even put in court filings that millions look to him for guidance ahead of november. the fbi, the american gestapo, horrible. all right. sarah marie, thank you very, very much. and this just in to cnn, multiple people had been shot at an arkansas grocery store cnn's isabelle results as one of this latest terrible shooting. what's the latest isabel? 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