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physicians mitchell i'm alex marc board in washington and this is cnn it's wednesday june 26, right now on san and this morning one day to go new details about the candidates final preparations for tomorrow night's highly anticipated presidential debates julian assange, a free man arriving minutes ago in australia, how that plea deal that led to his release happens primary results are in one republican incumbent. >> you might recognize her, gets to keep her job while a member of the squad, the progressives loses his and to members of congress one democrat, one republican joining us live. for their take on tomorrow's nights historic presidential debate just after 6:00 a.m. here in washington. a live look at the white house on this wednesday morning, president biden is not home. he is preparing for the debate of the camp. david, good morning, everyone. kasie hunt. >> it's wonderful to have you with us the first 2024 presidential debate. now, just a day away, the rematch between president biden and donald trump's set for 9:00 p.m. eastern time tomorrow at cnn's world headquarters in atlanta. you'll be in light of firsts in sitting president and a former president have never debated modern times in this is the earliest in the calendar scheduled debate in recent memory but this is obviously not the first time that these two have stood opposite each other on the biggest political stage. >> the last time these two men faced off, you may remember, it was chaos good question. >> the question of just the rational left. >> would you mason, who is on you? i'm not here to call out his lies. everybody knows he's a liar. >> de are joe i ran because of you. i ran because of barak obama because you did a poor job. he racist you just the worst, whereas america has ever had hey, we can lock ourselves up in a basement like joe does. >> it's hard to get any word in with this clown hope tomorrow night, new rules will be in place. the candidates will stand at podiums just a few feet from each other. trump on the left, biden on the right there will be no audience in the studio as cnn's jake tapper and dana bash moderate the 90 minute debate and the candidates microphones will only be turned on when it is their turn to speak, meaning interruptions or answers beyond time limits that the candidates agreed to might not be heard. so that will be different from last time also different. >> the context, what's going on in the country you may recall that just days after that contentious first showdown in 2020, then president trump was helicopter to walter reed while definitely ill with covid. >> and that first debate also included this this moment that would come back to haunt the country when trump failed to condemn the white nationalist proud boys i'm willing to do anything i wanted to see what sir. do it do you want to call him? what do you want to call them? give me a name. give me just like me to condemn proud process and ripe proud stand back and standby okay. let's bring in our panel, evan osmo, staff writer at the new yorker and biden biographer, basically former biden white house communications director kate betting fellas here and former trump campaign adviser, david urban, also joins us good morning to all of you relative calm on this set this morning and we're all tired it is early, but we're setting the stage for we're not sure what we're going to see on stage on thursday night from these two men. but the 2020 debate was a very specific moment in time. obviously, there has been some adjustments. evan, in terms of how this is likely to play out, how do you think that the way that this is setup is going to impact how much this debate matters and how it matters. >> the format is really important. i mean, it's really the closest analogy we have is 1960, when jfk debated richard nixon, you had no studio audience. you have this kind of, at the time, quite orderly, atmospheric today. nobody is expecting an especially quiet or sedate atmosphere, but it's just no question that having mics that can be silenced in-between changes, the whole nature for the thing. last time, chris wallace estimated that trump interrupted more than 100 times. i think that one of the elements that that will allow biden to emphasize is a message that he's been talking about recently, which is as he said, in a new set of ads, he said, look, this is a donald trump is interested in himself he's not interested in making changes and doing things for the middle class. the degree to which donald trump talks about himself and goes on and on and on and seems to overstepped the boundaries and overstep the limits that says more about him than it does about the policies you want. >> so one of the things that trump is out there talking about in the lead up to the debate is the idea that there may be performance enhancing drugs, i guess, if although he's not really specific, but i do think it's worth noting. we talked about these claims that trump is making a little bit on the show yesterday, but we didn't go back and find the tape from before because we've seen the movie. let's look at what donald trump had to say back in 2020 about them this and actually i think even before that, i think he goes back to 2016. just watch i think she's actually getting pumped up. >> so i think we should take a drug test. anyway, i'm willing to do it. they gave him a big fat shot and he comes out and for two hours he's better than ever before problem is what happens after that we're going to ask for drug tests. we are. i'd like to have a drug test well, so a little before debate time, he gets a shot. >> the sun that's they wanted to strengthen them up. he'll come out all jacked up. right? all jacked masks. >> let's say maga, that's a specific throwback, but david urban, what's going on here? yeah. so look, i think what the former president trump shot undoes. >> it's kinda raise expectations, right? joe biden's not going to come out and be sleepy joe there. i think he's going to come out being combative. if there's two things that need to occur to the state to be successful for both sides. donald trump needs be sedate and joe biden needs to be animated, right? and so it's almost, it's the reverse of what we see every day, right? so trump at the rally on saturday was pretty good. evan evan said if he's grievance donald trump, that's problems for the trump campaign saturday night and philadelphi was kind of odd message about working for you, fighting for you, right? and joe biden has to appear dynamic. he has the pure vigorous, he has to be combative. i think if joe biden comes out and his combative people like whoa, who is this guy, right? i mean, that's what the biden campaign wants to see. the trump campaign will just see the opposite so the mics being cut off, i think the format lends itself to more orderly debate. but i think both teams want to see something maybe a little bit different from their from their candidates. >> kick case. the director here, what do you say directly look, i broadly agree with that. i think for for trauma the aim here is to try to show these moderate suburban voters that he is a palatable option and it shouldn't be scared. >> yeah, they shouldn't be scared of him and we know from the first debate in 2020, that was a bad moment for donald trump. i mean, on the biden campaign in 2020, we saw his numbers fell off. we saw in our data. i mean, that was not a good moment for him and i think we've seen a lot of reporting but suggests that and david's no better than he gets that and he knows that. so i do think it's reasonable to expect that we will get a kind of more sedate version. >> second debate, whether we get that for 90 minutes. >> we'll see also don't underestimate, don't forget how much these too personally dislike each other. they really do. and so i think the intensity of being onstage together, eight feet apart with no audience really just kind of mano, a mano i think it's going to add a little bit of a little bit of x-factor. so we say it's worth remembering because donald trump didn't show up for the inauguration. they haven't been on stage in a very long time. we often talk about how donald trump tried to steal this election from joe biden's perspective, he tried to steal it from joe biden. there is an intense element to this that is going to be electricity that is right between these two. >> it could be like the jake paul, donald trump that video, you see the staring each other down. she's gonna look like before the debate started about to pull that for some bureau i mean, david, how do you think that that affects trump? i you know, i do. i agree. listed i think cates cates exactly correct. there's gonna be this visceral response, right? they both personally, there's a personal animus between each other. and so when they're standing there, when you from evan two, i's distance apart, right? there's gonna be like i want you buddy, they may get in a fight, who knows, right? they may throw. >> biden said, i'll take about back right? i mean, trump would tenth wrote up see the jake, paul, and mike tyson thing going on there thursday night, be payments on pay-per-view and that action should take those soundbites up to you guys for that. all right. >> i've got a lot more talking about this morning coming up next year, new reporting on that plea deal that led to the release of julian assange plus two members of congress, democrat debbie dingell, republican tim burchett here to preview tomorrow's presidential debate. then there's this massive wildfires triggering evacuations warnings in fresno, california. it's one of the five things you have to see this morning debate night in america as biden and trump meet and only cnn has complete coverage with unrivaled access and exclusive pre and post of beat analysis follows cnn and for every countless moment followed debate night in america tomorrow, which seven pete your record label is taking off. >> but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire a need indeed indeed, you do indeed instant match, instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description visited d.com slash higher rising costs selective coverage for countless americans. the complex specialty care they need is always felt just out of reach at ever door we give members unrivaled access to the most complex therapies at the best prices while providing enhanced support, like in-home nursing at no additional cost. that's wonder, made possible ever north health services here we go again. there's a here's what the daily show news team is barely breaking a sweat. >> it's the most wonderful time of the year how many central the daily show, weekdays on comedy central the saving sparkle during omaha steaks, fourth of july sale event, where you get 50% off sidewise, save on favorites like are famous for tender filet mignon juicy chicken breast besides deserts and more. >> order now and get aid omaha steaks, burgers frehse. this fourth of july, ignite the savings on guarantee perfection from america's original butcher visit, omaha steak.com slash tv today if you're about to replace your roof stock, there's a solution about 80% less expensive, nine out of ten roofs can be saved by roof max guaranteed to extend the life of your current rule by five to 15 years at a fraction of the cost of a new roof group maxes deep penetrating power restores flexibility and water protection. >> nobody wants to replace their roof, restore it instead with ruth masks for 80% less. call. now for a free roof inspection, you will never smell better everywhere, like you will with looming, it's so easy to use just a pea-sized amount like this. robinson, like a lotion controls odor for three days on pitts feet privates, anywhere you have odor, but wish you didn't. now before you say isn't that what soap and water is? 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learning about this? >> well, we know that over the years there was a lot of discussion between julian assange is lawyers and the justice department always really far apart. but i think over the last couple of years, you've seen the australian government become more involved. there's a new left-leaning government there in the last couple of years that viewed his case as something that they wanted a champion you saw, for instance, in october anthony albanese, the prime minister, bring it up personally with president biden, were told that carry out what is told that pretty much over the last couple of years every time australian diplomats met with the u.s. they would bring up the case of julian assange. and so what we see like in april, we see that the australian officials right to attorney general merrick garland, saying, we think that there's a deal possible. they also raise the possibility of a felony plea that would bring this down and resolve this. now, some of this i think for justice department officials, they also were losing in court in england where assange has been holed up. he's been fighting extradition. and in may they also lost another effort to try to get them extradited lengthening this fight. so i think what ended up happening is you saw i think they came to terms with the idea that he's already served five years, which is probably about the maximum that he would have gotten if he had gotten convicted on one of these counts. and i think both sides decided that it was time in the case of assange he was insisting on a misdemeanor. yeah. >> which of course he didn't do. he got he got a felony, and he also wanted to make sure he did not come to a court in the continental united states, which is why he was in saipan, northern mariana islands, stopped of course, because why not? >> right what are the implications of this plea deal for press freedoms? >> here in the u.s. i think look, i think this one of the most fascinating parts of this, the obama administration looked at charging julian assange very much the same case, and they decided that there was too much of a risk of the precedent, right. >> and the issue was, if wikileaks is is cooperating and partnering with us news organizations to publish them. these stolen documents why are you going after assange and not after the new york times editor, for instance. and so they were uncomfortable with it in everything changed after the hack of the dnc documents. and hillary clinton targeted by russian intelligence and past two weeks leaks that began changing the view of what was happening. and in the end, what i think the government believes is that is julian assange was not a journalist. he was directing and actually encouraging people to steal stuff which is something that align that we don't cross when we're doing our work. and so they view julian assange as in a totally different in a totally different way than i think certainly very pollock, his lawyer described them just now, but you're going to hear from julian assange today and he is going to embrace this idea that i'm a journalist and i was prosecuted for being a journalist. and i think the picture is a lot more complicated all right. >> i'm impressed 4 us this morning and i'm so grateful to have you. thank you very much. >> all right. ahead here. new cnn reporting how president biden and donald trump are gearing up in the final hours before tomorrow night's debate, plus state of emergency in the midwest after days of heavy rain, it's one of the five things you have to see this morning the cnn presidential debate to tomorrow, nedim life, i'd cnn and streaming on max the energy are seeing here isn't just clean or green, it's red, white, and blue, because not only is the clean energy playing, reducing pollution and creating millions of jobs, it's building our supply chains in america and making us less dependent on foreign oil big oil wants to repeal the clean energy plan, sending good paying jobs overseas, but we can't let them win because america has come too far to go back well changing question. >> are you keeping as much of your investment gains as possible i taxes can erode returns quickly, so you need a tax optimized portfolio at creative planning, our money managers and specialist's work together to make sure your portfolio and wealth are managed in it tax efficient manner. it's what you keep that really matters. why not give your wealth a second look up your free meeting today and creative planning.com. creative planning, a richer way to wealth sometimes investing can feel like you're going at it alone especially when it comes to adding crypto to your portfolio but it doesn't have to be that way as the world's largest crypto asset manager, you'll find a lot of people holding grayscale funds which means you're investing in good company grayscale crypto investing begins here home the place where you create those special moments we celebrate the home and the way you live in it. >> at three-day blinds we help you create that special place. and because we know you're busy, we bring the showroom to you at your convenience and provided design expert to help you find the perfect solution that fits your style and budget three-day blinds, you love the treatment, call or go online right now? 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