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[laughter] and it's true because biased democrats asking questions that usually guarantee they will be loaded with antagonism means you have to untangle the question before you can actually talk about whether you are qualified or not. i think the tiktok thing, i think what vivek -- he made a good point. that it is not about data collection. republicans keep talking about data collection. it is about brain collection. so you've got to look closer at home. you've got to look at the kids. you cannot talk about tiktok if your kids are on it. tiktok is that rare phenomenon that can get healthy kids to mutilate themselves under the delusion of gender affirmation. it's warping young minds. so i don't think you can rail against tiktok unless you say "i don't want my kids on there" because it is not about data collection, it is about what is happening to kids. >> dana: there were no complaints, really, about the questions, that i saw. >> jesse: i have a confession. i didn't watch the entire debate. i was changing diapers spirits before an important job. >> greg: you were at the white house? [laughter] >> jesse: that is why you should have cohosted that de debate. my impression was that vivek dominated and whatever it is about vivek, he is able to capitalize on the format because he is incredibly charismatic, incredibly articulate and he creates these breakthrough moments that everybody talks about. is he the most charming person on the stage? he probably lacks a little charm. and that is his deficiency. but he has got into this sweet spot of populism where you are thrashing around at the powers that be, you are a little isolationist, and you do not sound like a politician, and vivek doesn't sound like a politician and he is connecting emotionally to people out there. nikki haley, smart, earnest, liked what she said about abortion. sometimes she doesn't really translate with the grassroots, if you know what i mean, and the attack against desantis for not drilling in the everglades, anybody would drill in the everglades or offshore in the beautiful beaches off there. desantis, i agree, greg, i looked online after the debate trying to find moments. what happened with desantis? i couldn't find anything. and then i had to look and i looked at what he said, sounds good, makes the right points, but there is no -- there is no sizzle. with desantis. and i just don't think this race changes at all after that. >> dana: judge jeanine, what did you think? >> jeanine: it's interesting. i think nikki haley calling vivek "calm" was over the top. i ran for office five times, i get it when they come after your family, believe me, i get it. but i think greg, and i agree with you on that, i think that her reaction was more about vivek saying not just that you are dick cheney in 3-inch heels, but that she is on the board of raytheon and she has on the board of lockheed, and she is a neocon, and she wants to go in and bomb everyone, and i thought that's what got under her skin. for her to call him "scum." but vivek, i think vivek is very much come as jesse said, he is a populist, he said a lot of things people want to hear. the biggest applause in the audience and the crowd went crazy, when vivek went after -- is it kristen welker? and he said, you know, basically did a russia collusion hoax for four years and you are up here moderating this debate. and the audience went nuts. so in my nonscientific and certainly random twitter poll of 20,000 people, thank you for answering, 79% of those people thought vivek won. i think matt nagy, on abortion, and that whole issue, she has thought it out so well and i think she is really on top of her game there. i think that in the end, desantis, he can do the job, but he's not -- he can't get any excitement. you just kind of look at him and go, oh, it's him again. does he have his cowboy boots on again? there is really nothing to say. >> dana: jessica? >> jessica: i was not the target demographic for the debate last night, i am pleased to share my opinion. just kidding, not voting in the g.o.p. primary. i did think vivek went too far. i thought it was about the daughter that she got so upset. she has run for office for a very long time. she knows what it is like to be personally attacked. that was a visceral mom move that didn't feel like a raytheon thing to me, though of course he does not like being called neocon establishment and all of that. rightly, it is benefiting her and she should lean into it as much as possible because there are rhetorical lanes, the populist lane and the establishment lane. and donald trump owns the populist lane. until donald trump is out of this race, for whatever reason, and i don't expect that he will be, certainly listening to how he is talking about it, that leaves one other spot, and desantis, chris christie, and nikki haley -- and tim scott, who i think blew up his whole -- it's been a slow roll blow up and then last night when he looked at the results from the night before and said we need a 15-week national band, it's o over. that is the most inelegant thing that you can say after people in ohio told you -- conservatives in ohio told you that they don't want to talk about abortion bans. but nikki haley, for me, presented as the most feasible candidate that could win a general election. nikki haley versus joe biden, i saw this popping up in liberals twitter feeds last night that that of someone who they could -- it is not their choice but they could go to bed on election night and not worry about wh what the next four yeas is going to look like if it is nikki haley. vivek's line about ronna mcdaniel and what is going on with the g.o.p. i thought was really meaningful that he had considered the election results and that is something, if republicans want to change this culture of losing that i think it is important to do. i continue to like chris christie. i think the way he talked about the pro-life movement also including people suffering from addiction was really meaningful, and i don't know why that doesn't happen more often, that you consider everybody. it is not just about preserving life in the womb, but also taking care of people who are on the outside. and i just want to note, donald trump was having his rally, and he was throwing out lines like "kim jong un rose 1.4 billion people," and they have no doubt who the boss is, and they want me to say that he is not an intelligent man." that is the perfect just of no my juxtaposition for nikki haley to talk about the fact we don't raise dictators like that. we don't talk about other dictators -- >> jesse: we just pay them. >> dana: rashida tlaib's far right anti-semitism getting called out by israel's prime minister. ♪ ♪ the chase ink business premier card is made for people like sam, who make- everyday products, designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder, that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that- i need a breakthrough card. like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more. plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases. and with greater spending potential, sam can keep making smart ideas- a brilliant reality! the ink business premier card from chase for business. make more of what's yours. dupixent helps you du more with less asthma. and can help you breathe better in as little as two weeks. dupixent is an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that's not for sudden breathing problems. dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe. get help right away if you have rash, chest pain, worsening shortness of breath, tingling or numbness in your limbs. tell your doctor about new or worsening joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don't change or stop asthma medicines, including steroids, without talking to your doctor. ask your specialist about dupixent. 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"the great disappearance" by david jeremiah is available now everywhere fine books are sold. ♪ ♪ >> jeanine: new anti-israel protests breaking out in new york city. this as republican candidates call out the disturbing rise of anti-semitism on college campuses and radical protesters have been terrorizing jewish students. >> we need leadership at the top in the united states of america that restores our founding values and that has no place for this kind of anti-semitic hate. and what is biden doing? not only is he not helping the jewish students who are being persecuted, he is launching an initiative to combat so-called islamophobia. no, it is the anti-semitism that is spiraling out of control. >> we are about taking care of people, not going and making them live in fear because some other terrorist activities as they want to destroy them. >> jeanine: compare that with the unhinged anti-semitism spewing from the democrat party. recently censured congresswoman rashida tlaib got asked point blank to explain what she meant when she endorsed the pro-hamas slogan "from the river to the sea," which calls for the eradication of israel. >> many people in this movement for human rights for palestinians have always centered around coexistence. you hear them calling for that. and saying, you know, no matter your faith, ethnicity, background, you should be able to live without fear, without discrimination, without this kind of quality that netanyahu's extremist party and his leadership has been pushing. >> jeanine: and now radical rashida's extremist comments are embarrassing america on the world stage. bret baier has an exclusive interview with benjamin netanyahu at 6:00 p.m. tonight, and the israeli leader is slamming tlaib's comments. >> were you surprised by all the pushback not just in the united states with these protests but around the world? >> well, "from the river to the sea" means there is no israel, from the jordan river to the mediterranean, which is a tiny area, by the way, that encompasses israel, there is no israel. so what this congresswoman is calling for his homicide and genocide, the elimination of the one and only jewish state of the jewish people. i salute congress for censoring her. it is beyond that. the protests you are i am sure it includes a lot of nice people but there are a lot of people who know exactly what they are saying. >> jeanine: yesterday we talked about what she thought she meant, today she was asked specifically and she says that "from the river to the sea" is actually about peaceful coexistence. >> jessica: yeah, i don't think so. and if she really thought that, it wouldn't have taken her several days to prep that answer, right? that is something, if you are part of the palestinian community and that is a phrase that you use so regularly that is being chanted in your community, that you know how to explain it. so i maintain my position from yesterday, that i am not buying it. i also think, you know, you run to a friendly interviewer about it, put out an op-ed, do interviews with everybody. everyone who wants to talk to me about this, they want to talk to me about my past comments she made on the intercept podcast a few years ago, talking about one state solution, and i'm pretty sure her one state solution is not that israel rules over gaza and palestine, it is the other way around, so i am not into it. it is interesting to hear netanyahu talk about what's going on here. i think this is the first time we have heard comment from him on it. and it really speaks to the power and the import of what is happening across america and in huge metro poles like in london and paris and how disturbing it is, especially for the leader ou and his policies but it is very striking to me to hear that and that he called out there are for sure some people who are naive but that he doesn't buy it, that most people don't understand, and i think maybe we have been giving too many hall passes to people who are absorbed in their tiktok feeds and that people do understand more than we think about this, certainly the faculties at these universitiesd people in positions of power's, i continue to be deeply disturbed by what is going on. >> jeanine: you know, dana, last night the candidates talked about how they would handle the anti-semitism that is going on on the university campuses. did you have a chance to hear about what their plans were? >> dana: i listened to the whole thing. i think part of it was about the visas, student visas. that was once something, get into a big free-speech debate on that, but maybe that is a debate worth having. i also think there is a deep, i think may be, i can remember which one it was, this is a leadership issue. might have been vivek. there was no disagreement on the stage on many issues, including this one. but rashida tlaib, she has no incentive for this to end. she is making a gazillion small dollar contributions because she was censured. she is getting all the attention she could ever want to. her people that support her, they love this moment, so she has no incentive to stop. that is not going to end. i'm glad she was censured. the mass brawl outside the museum of tolerance was about it on the nose for this moment as you could possibly get. those protesters went to that venue on purpose because they wanted to attack them. the other thing is, can you imagine for a moment what it would look like today if a muslim man had been murdered by some alt-right white protesters? >> jeanine: forget it. >> dana: that is all we would be talking about. we would have a national conversation. instead, the media is not covering that at all. the protest violence is pretty much consistently coming from one side. and it is not the people who are accused of being the oppressors. >> jeanine: you know, greg, what dana reference was that gal gadot screening of the hamas terror attack, which apparently she got the actual video of what went on, and why do these people, the hamas people, want so much to suppress the reality of what happened? >> greg: well, they are living -- in order to maintain the conflict in the past you have to deny the present atrocity because -- you can't -- you have to have the historical context and then you have to question whether this really happened. i am noticing really weird bedfellows. young liberal white women who daily reject the misogyny and sexism of the patriarchy marching alongside the most misogynist antifemale men who had a brawl in front of the museum of tolerance. i would warn to liberal women the reason why they haven't come for you yet is because they are busy with the jews, but don't worry, they are going to get back to you and put you in your place because hamas is not for equal rights, in case you didn't notice. in my neighborhood, what's front outcome i think it was last night, just saw posters all oveh i say good for you, that is your right but guess what? they are still up. young jews so far haven't been tearing them down. that is the contrast between delusion and decency. tearing down posters is caused by delusion that denies the atrocity so you can tear it down. the other is people who just want their kids to get free and are okay with your posters. what you brought up, it is amazing how paul kessler's death came and went. the details are still in dispute but it was ruled a homicide. but none of the mainstream media seems to care about that. they are not picking it apart or analyzing the video. of course, like you said, that was a young pro-palestinian, we would be back to 2020 and on cnn and msnbc hearing about mostly peaceful riots and then there would be a need to defund anything that is related to jews. but because he is not a member of the designated oppressed class, paul kessler vanishes, much like the trans killer manifesto peer with a doesn't fit in