now looking at the skyline over gaza. the sun will set in an hour. the truce is over. the fighting has resumed between israel and hamas. we'll watch that story throughout the morning and we'll try to learn more as we go forward on the fate of the hostages who are still there. so stand by for more on that. meanwhile from last night, did you see this? >> yes it's a danger to the country. he has no business running for president. gavin newsom agrees with that. that's why he is running his shadow campaign. he should not be running, he is not up to the job. and it is dangerous for this country. >> i tell you why i'm here. i'm here to tell the truth about the biden/harris record and compare and contrast ron desantis's record and the public party's record as a point of contrast that's as different as daylight and darkness. you want to bring us back to a pre-1960s world. america in reverse. >> bill: it was blue state and red state. it was punch, counter punch last night. really something to watch. florida governor ron desantis, california governor gavin newsom toe-to-toe exchanging blows. you saw it on fox. who came out on top is good debate today. good morning, i'm bill hemmer live at the ronald reagan presidential library in simm i, california. air force one is the centerpiece of the library. here when you were here for the debates. the defense forum that gets underway today and through the weekend brings together some of the greatest minds in america about the military, what ronald reagan thought for america and thought -- how he could govern best for the world and so we'll dive into that. been coming here for seven years now and the issues are hot all across the globe. so with that as a place setter i say good morning, partner, how are you doing? >> dana: i'm dana perino, this is "america's newsroom." one of the great things about the reagan defense forum is that in that setting, you can really focus the mind and focus the issues and last year ukraine, that was hot, of course. now you have this in the middle east as well. no doubt you guys will have a really robust discussion and you can find all sorts of coverage on fox throughout the weekend. let's get over to the debate, though. for years they taunted each other over social media. they finally came face-to-face. the debate was expected to be contentious and it lived up to expectations with the two men duking it out over everything from taxes and rising crime and not to mention a little heavy dose of personal attacks. >> bill: i think they were getting in their shots. governor desantis talked just last hour with lawrence jones down in georgia saying governor newsom will not be a presidential candidate after his performance last night. his take on that. >> not after last night i don't think he will be. i think he showed -- we exposed him and the failed liberal policies and he didn't really have an answer. he would just shift and lie. >> dana: steve harrigan live in atlanta with the biggest takeaways. good morning. >> good morning. you talk about this as a fight and governor desantis himself described this as a boxing match between the two for 90 minutes on television about basic american issues like freedom. >> california does have freedoms that some people don't -- other states don't. you have the freedom to defecate in public in california. the freedom to pitch a tent on sunset blood and create a homeless encampment and have an open air drug market and use drugs. you have freedom as an illegal benefit to get taxpayer benefits. not the founding fathers envisioned but the results speak for themselves. >> it got personal at times. newsom called desantis a bully and liar and never be the nominee because he is trailing president trump by so much. >> you are trolling folks and trying to find migrants to play political games to out trump, trump. how is that going for you, ron? you are down 41 points in your own home state. >> as expected governor newsom attacked florida's abortion law and as expected governor desantis attacked the high taxes in california. he said governor newsom's own father-in-law moved out of the state and moved to florida. both of these governors may have gotten something of what they are looking for. desantis a bump in poll numbers. for newsom positioning himself as a future presidential candidate. dana, back to you. >> dana: thank you, steve, appreciate it. i was on several different text threads last night. each one had a different conclusion. one thought desantis wiped the floor and one thought sean hannity was the winner. an amazing thing to have the debate people wanted to have what it is like to live in a blue state and a red state with these two governors who like to go at it anyway. >> bill: it was clever not to have an audience and the focus on them. sawn did a very good job of allowing them a little rope to go after each other and sort of like the water rolls in on the ocean and let it run out again. he grabbed control again. ultimately the winner was fox. we showed how you can take leading republican and a leading democrat and really have a discussion on the issues for an hour and a half. frankly it could have gone three hours last night. >> dana: it was great that gavin newsom said yes, right? great all around. more to come. we'll have some analysis on this throughout the hour. >> bill: we'll have to think of the next big idea coming up. meanwhile, want to get to the middle east. breaking news overnight. folks just waking up today. the cease-fire is over between israel and hamas. idf resumed bombing of targets blaming hamas saying they broke the cease-fire before it was set to expire. nate foye live on the ground at his post in northern israel with the latest on the headlines. they're back at it. hello. >> they certainly are, bill. good morning to you. temporary cease-fire broke down in the early morning hours today after israel says hamas refused to release the 20 final female hostages that it still has in gaza. this is what we saw shortly after that. take a look. you mentioned it, bill. israeli jets hit multiple targets in gaza including -- israel has hit 200 terrorist targets in gaza today. hamas says israel violated it first and israel said -- >> they have decided to hold onto the hostages they abducted in violation of humanitarian law. hamas will now take the mother of all thumpings. >> so you see the damage here. the idf dropped leaflets into the southern gaza strip instructing civilians to move to evacuation zones. many didn't and the damage is severe. the end of this temporary cease-fire means horrible conditions will get worse for the palestinians in gaza. badly needed aid will have an even harder time getting in. qatar's ministry of foreign affairs say negotiations will continue to resume a pause in firing. the end of the cease-fire agreement means israeli hostages won't be coming home today. hamas released eight israelis in an exchange yesterday. over 130 hostages remain in gaza. now that cease-fire agreement, bill, never technically applied to the hezbollah terrorists that are on the northern front in lebanon but the past few days have been relatively quiet. so now that the fighting has resumed in the south, the few people who remain in the evacuated villages up north wait to see if fighting will come here. >> bill: a bit later we'll talk to the parents of an israeli american who hasn't been seen or heard from since october 7th. back to you for morehead lines from the middle east. >> dana: robert o'brien, former national security advisor to president trump. ask you a couple of things. first of all, would you agree one of the reasons hamas came to the table to start releasing hostages is because of the military pressure that israel put on hamas in the gaza strip especially as they closed in on that hospital? >> you're right. i had experience dealing with hamas. we were trying to get an israeli hostages, the remains, an idf soldier taken by hamas dragged through the tunnels and taken into gaza. they held his remains for years to keep his parents from being able to bury him in israel. without military pressure there will be no action on hamas's side. with the military pressure you saw almost 100 hostages were released. so i think hamas realized they were losing leverage. more hostages came out they had the leverage they had to stop the war on hamas and the extermination of the terrorists was waning. they put a pause to it. >> dana: the cease-fire has expired. secretary of state antony blinken was in tel aviv yesterday meeting with the israeli defense minister reportedly told the defense minister the stated goal to dismantle hamas told him i don't think you have the credit for that. the national review said israel, you are on your own, credit, dwell on that word. if the israeli government apparently acquired metaphorical capital following the slaughter of more than 1300 inoh center in the most gruesome fashion imag imaginable. if israel fights the war with the speed the white house wants it would be a quick campaign but not a clean one. what do you think about the idea of israel not having credit in order to get hamas eliminated? >> this is another one where it's an unfortunate statement by antony blinken. suppose he wishes he could take it back. the idea is americans will only back israel for a certain amount of time and that's been the case with democrat add min trigss in the past. we don't let them take care of the job and finish it. israel will finish the job here. hamas has to be destroyed. not just for israel but for america. hamas is holding american hostages. we're talking about israel not having credit? this is ronald reagan, bill hemmer is there at the library and i'll be there tomorrow night being interviewed and looking forward to it. ronald reagan talked about terrorists. you can run but can't hide. they took americans hostage and we put the handcuffs on israel. it sends the wrong message to the terrorists and wrong message to our allies. how do the taiwanese and ukrainians feel that israel only has a few days to -- of quote credit to defend themselves when they are defending themselves against russian china. bad message to allies and adversaries and secretary blinken wishes he had a do over on that one. >> dana: based on your experience and assessment of what you think is going on with the rest of the hostages. >> well look, thoughts and prayers go out to them and the families. they are being held under terrible conditions starting to come out with the interviews of hostages released. cages, tunnels, being harassed by hamas and sinwar, the leader of hamas is talking to hostages in hebrew that he learned in an israeli jail where he was held on a life prison term but exchanged for an israeli hostage. a tough situation for them. more pressures the israelis put on them the more pressure on hamas to release the hostages and hopefully our friends in qatar and other places will intervene and help get these guys out. a really rough situation for them. >> dana: robert, thank you for being with us this morning. >> so many f.b.i. people at twitter that they had their own internal group and their own little contribute sheet to describe the difference between the terms that they use at the f.b.i. versus twitter. >> bill: this is something else. the battle over government censorship online unfolding on the hill. who do you believe? 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>> what i have not said certain things and done things differently. absolutely. adult and mature enough to acknowledge that. >> bill: that was last hour. defiant george santos refusing to resign before a planned third expulsion vote later this hour. we're watching that news now. moments ago the brand-new house republican speaker mike johnson says he will vote against expulsion. now remember what the house rules are. 2/3, 290 votes out of 435 members needed for expulsion. how many can the new speaker bring with him? we don't know. meanwhile house democrats are set to talk with reporters before this vote. we're watching that. could happen any moment now and we'll bring it to you when it gets underway. meanwhile, from the hill yesterday, listen to this. >> we've seen misinformation spread on all sides so i think that what you are hearing from us is a general call that everybody needs to just calm down and remember that this country's greatness is founded on that protection of speech that we all might consider to be hateful. >> bill: you be the judge on all this now. what do you think? what's happening? twitter files co-author michael shellenberger telling the house committee that the government's close ties with social media companies could be a violation of american's free speech rights making numerous accusations of the government's role in censorship online including using military contractors to employ disinformation tactics against american citizens. if he is right, this runs deep. michael shellenberger is with me. you are in washington, d.c. after the hearing yesterday. you said two things that were really interesting. the first thing you said it was worse than you originally thought. how so, michael? >> nice to be with you, bill. it is worse in the sense the censorship was just one part of what we saw happening both by u.k. and u.s. so-called former military contractors but currently employed including someone working for the navy in 2020 when they created something called the cyber threat intelligence league supposedly of volunteers. many people were working for the department of homeland security, f.b.i., working with social media companies to censor americans but what we discovered was basically a handbook they created to use psychological operations and disinformation tactics against the american people. these are tactics that have been developed abroad by the u.s.