california. his special hour on the state of defense. a report card on america's military readiness to meet the challenges of an increasingly dangerous world. from the middle east to ukraine the south china sea to the internet, america's armed forces must be ready to meet 21st century challenges to our nation security. israel's war with hamas, the latest conflict to ignite instability turbocharging attacks on our forces in the region from iranian proxies. we will get reaction from national security council communication coordinator jon kirby about the restart of the war the head and lindsey biting white house faces from democrats over conditioning future aid to israel. >> we want to be so good at what we do that they say not today, not tomorrow, ever forgot joint chiefs chairman are preparing our men and women and uniform for the wide range of security responsibilities across the globe. general cq brown joins me here at the reagan library. and that, before serving on congress that they served several tours of duty on the ground in two of america's longest wars. we sit out congress and michael waltz and seth moulton veterans from both sides of the aisle as a fight for defense spending comes up against a starker deadline. >> is it cool to be patriotic now? what has been cool to be contrary in and right now it has been a little contrary and to be very patriotic. shannon: are inside look on how cutting edge technology is shaping the future of battle worldwide. all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ ♪. shannon: hello from the reagan library in southern california. here are the top headlines making this today but israel is widening its evacuation orders for palestinians in southern gaza including in and around the cities and rafah report a heavy bombardment overnight. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu calling for total victory against hamas and pushing back against white house calls to allow the palestinian authority to ultimately govern gaza claiming the group also calls for israel's destruction. meanwhile in paris, french authorities are looking into whether terrorism was to blame for a knife and hammer attack on tourist near the eiffel tower leaving a german man dead and two others injured were 26 old french national has been arrested. will turn to trey yingst in southern israel with the very latest on the war in gaza. >> shannon, good morning. after a week long a cease fire some more than 100 hostages freed from gaza, fighting has resumed for a third d daypart is resealed official say ground and air campaign and the second phase of this war against the strip could last for months at purdue airstrikes overnight targeted shafts in storage facilities also going after hamas leadership yesterday killing the commander of hamas battalion. he was responsible for the deaths of seven soldiers during the 2014 war and participated in planning the october 7 massacre. new leaflet drops are being conducted across gaza urging civilians to evacuate areas around gaza city and locations aof the southern city. with these jobs comes new questions about where people will evacuate to. as for incoming fire more than two or 50 rockets were launched towards israel since friday morning. we heard explosions there israel's second-largest city of tel aviv yesterday. today a direct impact at a synagogue in the south. take a look. you can see here the direct impact at a synagogue in the southern town. fifty-eight days into this conflict hamas and islamic jihad have maintained their ability to fire from the northern part of gaza. they are targeting not just committees here in the south but also across central israel. as it is hard, i barely sleep maybe three hours it's hard hearing the booms, the rockets appeared i did not think it would follow me synagogue. >> talks to re- implement a cease-fire over the weekend collapsed though today regional sources telling fox news negotiations could still continue. shannon: a tra trait and israelk you. this morning i spoke with jon and kirbkirby national securityl communications coordinator. mr. netanyahu spoke overnight about the situation israel. when he was about the role post war of the palestinian authority said this the palestinian authority pays murderers and educates their children to hate israel and to my sorrow to murder jews and ultimately for the disappearance of the state of israel. he added would be putting the same element utterly unreformed utterly un- change into gaza's of the bite administration expects israel to do? >> he hit it right on the head when he talked about a pa that is unreformed but when then secretary blinken was stalking our israeli counterparts about when he was there was the need to reform the palestinian authority to revitalize palestinian authority that is much more able to meet the aspirations and the needs of the palestinian people. we agree that is not the case right now. shannon: what is the plan though? what would the u.s. roby question rick who should be governing? netanyahu said they didn't want to occupy it, they do not want to control so what happens nex? but to greet them on that to we do know me too see israel reoccupy gaza. that's not a long-term strategic goal that's really achievable or wise for the israeli people. we believe that at the core of the future of governance in gaza has got to be something the palestinian people have a boat in a voice in they have a governance that is truly representative of them and their aspirations. now what exactly that looks like we do not know but we are asking the same questions you are asking me of ourselves and our partners to see what we can do in the region working again with israeli and arab partners to see what a reit vitalize reform refm housing authority can look like and could that reform the palestinian authority actually be able to govern gaza in a way that meets the aspirations is the same questions we are asking ourselves. we do not have firm answers we don't believe it's too early to be looking hard at this. shannon: is a lot of heartbreak and destruction between here and there is conflict and fighting has resumed in the region. there's obviously coordinated messaging out for the ministration this weekend about the current strategy underway in israel here's a little bit from the secretary of defense here at the reagan form and also the vice president. got the center of gravity is a civilian population. if you drive them into the arms of the animate you or bisect technical victory with the strategic defeat. >> no forcible displacement. no reoccupation. note siege or blockade. eclectic question is, is not a public message for israel i imagine y you have the same conversations privately overset message for the more progressive wing of the president's own party who is saying things like this? >> no actually you hit it again in the first part of your question. this is a consistent message we have taken towards really counterparts privately and of course we are talking publicly to about the same big goals and i would tell you secretary blinken talked about this before we left israel the israelis have been receptive to this messages. talk about civilian casualties, yes they are conducting shaping operations for potential moving operations in the south. they put up a map online that is identified for the people of gaza areas where they should not go into areas where they can go with a measure of safety. i don't know too many modern militaries that take that extra step. they clearly are trying to make an effort to be more precise and cautious ear and that is of course something we have been urging them to do it literally from the beginning of a conflict. shannon: that's not something a current sitting congresswoman believes is happening here is her take on what is happening in our role in it. >> what we are witnessing is the gross violation of human rights in gaza. and that is being done with u.s. military assistance. shannon: what is your message to her and others in the progressive left of the president's party who are saying these things publicly? >> was being done with u.s. military assistance is helping our friend and partner, israel, go after a truly genocidal threat. the threat posed by hamas. i think it is just too easy. as we get further and further away from the seventh of october to member what happened on that day. 1200 israelis literally slaughtered kids in front of their parents, parents in front of their kids. we have got to help israel eliminate the threat to the israeli nation and the israeli people from that threat, from hamas. we are going to keep doing that absolutely. now the same time just like you and i've i been talking for a fw minutes, we want them to do in the most careful, conscious, considerate way possible but how it matters as we've said. i would stress the israelis have been receptive to those messages and they have actually altered the way they have been conducting some of their operations. i also want to say clearly common to many thousands of individual civilians had been killed. to be more thousands have been wounded we have more than a million have been internally displaced in gaza we are not blind to the mentoring crisis which is why we work so hard. the pause in place for seven days we get hostages out and get an accelerated amount of food, water, medicine, fuel into gaza. we are certainly working on the humanitarian plague here. we can have got to state courts would have on the seventh of october and remember the threat they're facing from hamas. >> it is existenial three thick critics of the guidance or the conversations we are having publicly or privately with israel say the bite administration is making demands it israel cannot actually fulfill hears from the wall street journal editorial board israel must do more to protect civilians but can't evacuate them cannot hit hamas when it hides a key civilian infrastructure and safe zones how is it to fight it all? israel deserves to support as it topples hamas not a repeat of the ukraine treatment that they say was rules, restriction and head to the hesitation pushed a decisive victory further away. how much of the cou counsel youe having privately with israel requires him to pass any decisions by us? >> none. that argument does not comport the facts that we are laying down restrictions or redlines for israel. israel is a sovereign nation attacked in a brutal way on the seventh of october. they have every right and responsibility to after the terrorist group that perpetrated those attacks and plan them and by the way has made it clear they're going to do it again and do more. we have every right and responsibility to go after them we would do the same thing any nation would. but we have dennis talk to them, share our perspectives and lesson learned about urban warfare is secretary austin said about not turning a tactical victory into a strategic defeat were going to share that that's what friends do but they are making these decisions. they are decidedly targets they are going to hit obviously were continued to talk with an abutting is careful and cautious as possible. we do not want to see in them are innocent civilians killed and i don't think the wall street journal once that either. but we are not going to stop giving them the security assistance they need to go after this issue quite accurately put it an existenial threat to the israeli people. shannon: quickly went to make sure we ask how many americans do we think are still hostages? why don't we have them back question are going to be get them back? works we think the number somewhere in the neighborhood of eight or nine probably nine way to have perfect visibility and all of us americans are being a little careful with the numbers but that is kind of the population we believe it is. we know there is at least one other american woman who is unaccounted for we do not know much about her, her condition, where she is i was had thing unfortunately about the other americans being held hostage we just to have perfect visibility. getting some information from the families who are helping us understand why they believe their legends were taken hostage the israelis are trying to flesh out some of her information. we are working at this literally by the hour. want to get the possible back in place so they get more hostages can come out. i will say this to things if you will allow me. one, hamas is the reason the pause ended they refused to put on the list of add additional wd children that we know that they are holding they are refusing to let go. and it too we are working at literally by the hour to save and get this back. shannon: at jon at kirby we always appreciate your time thank you sir. >> yes, ma'am good to be with you. shannon: up next my conversation with the chairman of the joint chief of staff general cq brown with his assessment of the state of our military and increasing threats from china, russia, and iran as we examine the state of defense here at the reagan library in simi valley, california and here's the 40th president of the united states back in 1983 giving an address to the nation on defense and national security. proxy defense policy of the united states is based on the simple premise. the united states does not start fights. we will never be an aggressor. we maintain our strength in order to deter and defend against aggression. to preserve your freedom and peace. 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>> the first thing i tell them is they ought to be very proud of their military. we are ready for whatever comes our way. at the same time we want to be so ready that we do not have a conflict. we hear peace through strength. our strength that we demonstrate as a military will help bring that piece. shannon: let's stay with china. this issue of competition versus conflict. the president says were going for the former not the latter. there is a lot of information in the survey about how people feel were doing on the front. the majority of americans think over the next 10 years that china will outpace the u.s. on both the military power and economic strength, literature outlook on that? >> might real role in job is to actually make sure on the military side that does not occur which is why i am so focused on accelerating change. that is why i and focus on the collaboration we do having been here the past couple he is not here to reagan but also out to silicon valley how we work together on the national defense and how that helps us economically. shannon: one of the ways it's really on the world stage right now is the issue of china and taiwan which was also covered in a survey paid 73% of people respond to the survey they were somewhat worried about the possibility of china invading taiwan. you said in the past you don't think it will be an actual physical operation to take taiwan logistically very difficult to do that but there are other ways china will pressure taiwan so how do you see that playing out? >> think about what happened in hong kong. the first thing i want to say we should be worried but this can happen or not part of the reason why it's so important that the conflict does not occur but if you look at what happened to hong kong and some things the prc doing today is putting pressure on taiwan. putting pressure on countries in the indo pacific. whether it's economically or militarily that we have seen. continued pressure to wear in this case it taiwan or others to their own game. we've got to pay attention to that which is why i go back to over the course of the five years i was the commander of the civil air force before became commander of the air force watching how many of the nations in the region and out of the survey at the american public start to see the prc as a challenge we are able to bring those things together. basic 70% say they have real concerns the conflict will spill over into a nato country and directly forcing the u.s. into this battle. any thoughts and where you see putin going is that more or less likely almost two years into this? >> what a seat right now if you think about what putin intended to do from the very start in the territory he gained in the territory he lost in ukraine things have not gone according to his plan. i think because of what happen in ukraine nato is stronger than it has ever been. in fact it's larger now with the finland and sweden. and because of that strength in the dialogue with the many of our nato partners we are all committed to ensure this does not go broader. shannon: how worried are you about u.s. military aid to ukraine causing the u.s. to deplete its weapons stock