israel, it's not good for the people of gaza. so we do not support that. >> the prime minister did offer some encouraging words about a possible hostage deal. we are following all the developments there. and the clock is ticking to a friday deadline for a government shutdown. and then you house speaker's hail mary -- seeming to be deflating by the minute. donald trump once his core tv, demanding cameras for his upcoming trials. plus this -- -- >> you think donald trump is a great president, president? >> i think donald trump is the king of the world. you'll find out. >> you think it was a great president? >> he did and credible job. he did an incredible job and anyone who said he didn't, something's wrong up here. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> our friends at the good liars, live this hour with what they heard from the maga faithful and trump's legal issues about trump's legal issues, that's coming up later in the hour as well. >> we begin this hour once again in the middle east and the israel hamas war where israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has laid out his plan for a postwar gaza, which includes taking control of security in gaza indefinitely. this morning, though, on meet the press, he also spoke about some potential movement regarding hostages being held in gaza by hamas. >> the moment we started the ground operation, things began to change -- >> though, is there a potential deal, mister prime minister, is there a potential deal? >> there could be. but i think the less i say about it the more i increase the chances that it materializes. >> joining me now is nbc's element clogging live from tel aviv with more on this. erin, what are you learning about the potential deal there. >> reporter: well what we know from an official within the biden administration that there is a discussion, a proposal currently on the table that would involve an exchange, and exchange of 80 of the hostages, women and children, specifically in exchange for 80 women and children, palestinian prisoners currently in israeli jails, according to this official. the deal has not been finalized and i think it's also worth noting that we are seeing a flurry of diplomatic activity happening. we just got a readout from the qatari news agency, now this is potentially significant because, remember, qatar has been mediating between israel and united states. and has been a conduit to hamas, if potential deal for weeks now. according to this readout from the qatari news agency, there was a phone call that took place tonight between president biden and the emir of qatar in which the emir of qatar, quote, also stress the constant diplomatic efforts of the state of qatar to reduce the escalation of this ongoing war, including its efforts to release the hostages and open the rafah crossing to foreigners and relief aid, appreciating the role of the united states and america in that context. so these discussions are continuing at the highest of levels late into the night. meanwhile, i was just talking, messages messaging the family of one of the hostages. they told me that they have yet to hear anything. just yesterday, thousands of people turned out here to the streets of tel aviv to demand the immediate release of the hostages. it was an emotional moment for the families. i was speaking to the father of a 21-year-old who was kidnapped on october 7th. he said that he was in contact with his son when the militants stormed that festival. he said that his son turned on his live location, and that he watched on his phone as that live location went straight into gaza. he said he's heard nothing since. but the support of the thousands of israelis that turned out last night, he said, was hugely helpful. take a listen. >> we have a lot of support from the israeli people, families. you can say that they are coming and supporting with us and we have a lot of volunteers that work with us. so, i believe that the whole israeli population, let's say the majority, are with us. >> reporter: so, so many families of all 239 hostages are waiting and watching to see if anything else emerges from this latest development. yasmin? >> erin well mclaughlin, suddenly praying for that. coming up later on this hour, everybody, former counsel general of israel joins me to talk about israel's situation in the gaza strip and facing the prime minister. i want to turn to the big news here at home, house speaker mike johnson trying to whip up support for his so-called laddering, laddered, iould say, continued resolution. and avoid a calamitous government shutdown. the bill extd funding for several agencies until january 19thwhile others including defensehat'll go into february 2nd. and justdespite pressure from far-right house members, it does not include any spending cuts with aid for ukraine or israel. julie tsirkin is joining me now. julie, speaker johnson does not have many votes to lose on this. and he's already lost a few. what is the likelihood of success here? >> reporter: he already lost three out of four, to be exact. republicans who did not waste any time after their plan was unveiled to them, to make their frustrations clear and known. and the reason they are opposing this is because of the lack of spending cuts in this bill. there are none. effectively, this is a two-step bill. it is a laddered cr. the top democrat on the house appropriations committee just a few moments ago saying she was bewildered by this approach. she said by adopting this approach, speaker johnson is setting up a system that will double the number of shut down showdowns. that being said, though, it is clean. it doesn't include budget cuts. it doesn't include partisan policy writers that democrats were nervous about. speaker johnson would throw them in there to get the support of these hard-liners. and senator chris murphy talked to our kristen welker this morning about. look at his reaction. >> i don't like this laddered cr approach. it looks gimmick to me. but i am open to what the house is talking about, the priority has to be keeping the government open and i think this is a moment where reasonable people in the senate, and that's where most of the reasonable people are these days, have to make sure that we are not making the perfect enemy of the good. >> reporter: quickly, yasmin, the reason that republicans want this laddered approach is because they feel that this could motivate senate democrats to pass single subject spending bills rather that massive spending package that we often see at the end of the year. so that's why johnson is pushing this so hard. now, he does need to reach across the aisle to get the votes because by all accounts, he's not going to get there with just republicans. here's how the votes can work in the next couple of days. tomorrow, republicans and democrats on the house rules committee will meet. the catch is, though, in order to get the bill to the floor, it has to make it out of that committee with only republican votes. chip roy, who we saw on the screen earlier, actually opposes the bill and he sits on that committee. if it does make it out of rules, it could hit the house floor as soon as tuesday, where the full house will then take it up, and the senate recently has to face it after. but they're already starting their own process from one clean continuing resolution that expires on january 19th. >> julie tsirkin, thank you. appreciate it. in just 60 seconds, everybody. i'm gonna speak to congressman connolly of virginia about this new funding bill proposal. and whether it has any chance of avoiding a shutdown. and coming up, why donald trump says he needs cameras in the courtroom for his trials. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm adding downy unstopables to my wash. now i'll be smelling fresh all day long. 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how are you gonna vote on it? >> well, i could see a fine print. and we haven't seen that yet. but it is a novel approach that is puzzling. why do we want to condemn ourselves to not one but two laps in funding the federal government in early next year? having said that, as you point out, it is what is called a clean cr, no big push the rioters, and holding funding at current levels. it is a problem for us that also, it lacks military and humanitarian funding for the situation in gaza, israel, and ukraine. so, it's a little bit of a fine print. but if it keeps the government open without too much pain, maybe it is something that we will have to look at. >> i want to talk a little bit, as you bring up israel and gaza, i want to talk a little bit about that. we just heard from prime minister benjamin netanyahu on meet the press earlier today along with a press conference he held yesterday alongside his defense minister, in which he said indefinitely that israel will secure gaza. he was more unsure about what the governing structure would look like in gaza but israel would indefinitely provide the security for gaza. to some, that sounds as if it is a reoccupation of gaza by israel. what do you make of that? and would that affect funding for gaza in the future, if in fact it looks like a reoccupation of gaza? >> as you indicated a little bit earlier in your reporting, president biden has warned the israelis not to do that, that it's taking on way too much, and you don't want another occupation, responsibility, for an already stretched israeli government. and ultimately, both the west bank and gaza have to be governed by palestinians themselves. that's the goal here. so, substituting israel for palestinian governance can only be a recipe for grief. clearly, i understand that netanyahu wants to clear gaza of hamas control. and if he can do that without the loss of civilian lives, that would be a goal. but right now, what we are witnessing is a horror. and the killing has got to stop. >> so, what did the president do? what should his administration do if in fact the prime minister lands on, the day after this war is over, a reoccupation of gaza indefinitely? >> i think the president, first of all, by flying to israel directly after the october 7th massacre was an unprecedented show of support for israel that we've never seen before. so, i think president biden has leverage. it is probably-limited leverage given who benjamin netanyahu is and how he operates. but we see news of that influence, all that leverage, to bring this violence and this hostility to an end, to release the hostages, and to try to find some new path towards a peaceful governance of gaza. >> representative gerry connolly, thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, taking a deeper look at the potential problems at for america's relationship with israel over the control of gaza. plus, former president trump now demanding cameras in the courtroom for his federal trials. we're gonna look at whether he will get his wish given the special counsel's opposition. and the good liars duo joining me to recap another trump rally full of supporters refusing to accept the truth. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> if he did lie about that, do you think maybe possibly he lied about other stuff? 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>> yet you know, i don't want to go so far as to say -- well you might have if it does happen, but it is very unlikely to happen. because as much as i would love to see this, -- as much as nbcuniversal would like to see this televised, and so much of the american public does, there is just a rule barring the broadcast of federal trials. and in order to really change, that they would have to be some movement, i think legislatively to make that happen. it is just something that hasn't happened, even though this is a very unique trial, in a very unique set of circumstances. so i think what you can expect is green -- over at nbc news.com. and covering >> as we've had. >> and covering all this as it unfolds. but you are really probably not going to see it televised proceeding, as i think the trump campaign wants, and ultimately amid a lot of the american public does, just because there's no precedent, 40 just as an happen. and it would be quite something, if he made an exception in this case, when they are trying to handle this case as normally as possible, as in the court system is really trying to stick with the norm here, and try not to let too much of this media distraction really take away from the case. >> you see a lot of action outside that courthouse along with all of us stake out there on that, and that's frankly we're going to see more, of when this begins. quickly ryan, the fbi is investigating the suspicious letters containing some of them fentanyl, -- in nevada, california, washington state, georgia, oregon as well. tell us more. >> yeah, this is a really scary thing, the justice department and the fbi have really been emphasizing from the beginning, that they are there to stand up for these law enforcement officials who are getting, these threats. so it is an ongoing narrative that we have seen, especially i think as we have gotten closer to the 2024 election, and as we see rumors and misinformation come out about elections, i think we could expect more of this, that is something that federal officials are saying, they are staying on top of it, and make sure that resources are available to these local law enforcement, should they need it. >> ryan riley, thank you. and we should in fact disclose, nbc news is one of the coalition of media organizations to a petition for cameras inside the courtroom, at the trump trials. coming, up the israeli prime minister, putting the president in a very tough position. why netanyahu's call for complete control of gaza indefinitely could lead to a showdown, between the two leaders. we will be right back. be right back. together. burger and fries... soup and salad. thank you! like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. with voya, considering all your financial choices together... can help you make smarter decisions. for a more confident financial future. hey, a tandem bicycle. you can't do that by yours