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also, it's already pushing 100 degrees in las vegas, and it's only going to get worse. the stark new warning on global temperatures from the united nation, and who officials there think should foot the bill in the fight. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we begin with msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin on trump's new york gag order. so trump's lawyers are asking the judge to lift the order. the d.a. is opposing it. what are we expecting here? >> well, the d.a.'s office, chris, has let the judge know that they would like to submit real briefs, meaning extended argument with case citations and the like on june 13th and june 27th. those are not coincidentally the same dates that briefs are due first from trump's lawyers and then from the d.a. with respect to his sentence. what i think will happen here is that the gag order will remain in place but will be significantly narrowed, and when i think about who will be let free from the gag order, meaning who trump will be able to speak about, i'm thinking about two people in particular, maybe a larger category, and those are witnesses and specifically stormy daniels and michael cohen, each of whom have given extensive interviews in the days since the verdict. my expectation is that trump's lawyers will be able to persuasively say these folks are allowed to talk about him and the verdict and their role within it. it's unfair and unconstitutional that he shouldn't be able to do the same. and, chris, they're not entirely wrong, as far as i'm concerned. >> lisa rubin, thank you. now to the u.s.-mexico border after president biden's new executive action took effect at midnight. nbc's david noriega is along the border in san diego, and so it's been 14 hours since that new executive action took place. are you seeing any changes? >> reporter: short answer, chris, is not many. at least not many that are visible. let's use where i'm standing now as an illustration. this fence you see is the second fence. there is another fence behind it and this area in between the two fences is u.s. soil. once a migrant sets foot on u.s. soil, the u.s. cannot push them back into mexico, especially if they are not mexican. there's a process in place, they have to be detained, taken to cvp processing centers, that has not changed. most of them no longer have access to asylum. nevertheless because there's no agreement from mexico to accept more summery expulsions, we're not seeing the border be shut down or sealed. this is going to take time to show any real on the ground effects. to use this point on the border as an illustration. yesterday we saw between 70 and 80 migrants gathered by border patrol. today we saw more than 80. it seemed like it had plummeted. there was a small group, and then a much larger group of 75 migrants from all over latin america showed up. judging by this point, a small up tick. we cannot reach any conclusions based ob this one crossing. we need to wait and see the border wide numbers. if there's a drop in numbers, it's likely because smugglers have waited to take a wait and see approach, before sending migrants across the border. it's going to take time to fully understand the actual concrete effects of this executive action. >> david noriega, thank you. now to senator bob menendez's trial and the lengths the fbi went to in their investigation. tom winter is following this for us. what's the latest from court, tom? >> the people in the jury are getting a master class on how the investigations are put together, and a lot of white collar and public corruption cases, the type of cases that typically involve members of congress do not involve this type of level of physical surveillance. that's what i was required according to the fbi to determine what was going on at this dinner. as you alluded to at the top of the show, it was two fbi agents, part of a team of 8 to 15 members of the fbi. they were conducting surveillance video, and getting surveillance pictures, i should say, including the one that you're looking at on screen, and it was testimony that was elicited at trial yesterday, where one of the agents said, who was within arm's length, she testified to of this table, that it was nadine menendez seen there on the left that said to the two individuals, hannah, a businessman we talked about earlier this week who ran halal meat company in new jersey and an unidentified egyptian official where she said what else can my husband do for you is what she the fbi agent testified to, so that is going to only be seen as adding to the evidence alleged by prosecutors that the senator was conducting business on behalf of that businessman from new jersey and that he was doing so in return for benefits that we have obviously talked about in the past, the payments, the gifts, et cetera, so that's what they're focusing on right now in this case. continue to go talk about this scheme, and the jury has been hearing a lot of testimony along these lines. the senator seen arriving at court, the testimony about this meeting and about some of the surveillance, that will continue, and both the senator, his wife, as well as the two businessmen, we should note, chris, as we have been saying all along have pleaded not guilty, and obviously the trial continues. >> tom winter, thank you. now to las vegas where cooling centers just opened to protect people from scorching heat. nbc's liz kreutz is there where it currently feels like 109 degrees. oh, my gosh, liz. obviously behind you is one way, at least kids are trying to stay cool. >> reporter: hey, chris, yeah, it is hot, and it is only going to get hotter here in las vegas. that's why these kids are out at the splash pad, enjoying the cooler temperatures. cooler, still very hot, early in the day here, but as of about an hour ago here in las vegas, we are under an excessive heat warning that's going to last until 9:00 p.m. on friday. and tomorrow the city could hit a record. it may get up to 111 degrees. if it does, it will be the hottest it's ever been this early in the year here in las vegas. we've seen that across a huge region. 29 million people are under the heat warnings or advisories here in the west. phoenix could also have record setting triple digit temperatures. that's really the big story. regions that are used to hot weather. how early in the year they're seeing it right now, and these cities are also coming off last year where there were hundreds of deaths because of a heat wave last summer. in phoenix, fire officials say they're going to try new strategies to try to combat some of those deaths this year, people who are being treated for heatstroke might be put into the human sized ice baths on their way to the hospital. here in las vegas, cooling centers have opened, and i was talking to the person who runs this summer camp with these kids, and they were saying, again, this is the earliest they have ever started to do these outdoor swim activities. usually this is something they would start to do in early july. they're doing it now. they're going to do it for a little bit longer and, then they're going to head inside into the air-conditioning for the rest of the day, which is where a lot of people are going to do today. >> we thank you for standing in the heat for us, and bringing us this report. thank you, liz kreutz. today, the u.n. secretary general office and who when i asked them, would you run again, say not now. not in this environment. people who are leaving office of their own will because they feel like it's an exercise in futility to be a member of congress. i even go back to the supreme court and ruth bader ginsburg who considered antonin scalia to be one of her closest friends. when people of different minds used to be able to have civil conversations. would you run for office right now? >> no, because i enjoy being on with you a lot more than running for office. >> correct answer. >> i think there's two ways, chris, to deal with this. one is, if you take a look at the political parties, they have lost power. now who gets elected has been turned over to a bunch of special interest groups, and we can plug that. we can put a finger in the dike. but the bigger problem is the issue of the character. the bigger issue of are we willing to stand up against what we see as unfair or injustice, are we willing to take the heat. that's why i have been saying on this show more than any other show that i appear on, it's going to take some sort of a spiritual impact on all of us to realize we can't hate that other person. we're all made in the image of the lord. and if you're going to just seek revenge and hate them, you're bringing down our culture. and so that's the longer term, how do we get that character implanted back again, and maybe it's one community at times, i'm writing a book about the power of these faith institutions with people who do miraculous things to make people happy, we have to deal with the short-term problem, how do we plug the dike. to have the power back rather than have it greatly diminished. >> what we know is that questions of character, which even some of donald trump's supporters will raise, i wish you wouldn't say that, i wish you wouldn't act like that, but i'm still going to vote for him, questions about him actually, dasha, being convicted of 34 felonies is not hurting his fundraising. we reported yesterday that him and the rnc combined raked $141 million, an astonishing number for may. now you guys have new reporting about the pro term superpac, maga inc., what's going on there? >> this is a pattern. when trump supporters feel like he's getting attacked, they rally around him, and a lot of time they rally with their dollars. the super pac, maga inc. is telling us they have raised $70 million during the month of may, and this is important, they're laying down an initial $100 million ad buy through labor day. now, the republican party and trump, they have been out raised, out spent, and out bought on the air waves by the biden campaign so far, but they are closing that gap. and remember, the polling is still showing a tight race. add another hundred million, that gap narrows in terms of money and potentially changing the numbers we're seeing. >> dasha burns, thank you, we appreciate it. dasha was rushing on the subway to report for us. john kasich, thank you, sir, appreciate you coming on the program. >> thank you. always love it, thank you. a former officer who defended the capitol on january 6th just announced a new strategy to support candidates who are running against pro trump republicans in november. harry dunn, launching a new group called dunn's democracy defenders and kicked things off with this new ad. >> i was always ready for game day. two teams lined up. it's us against them. you leave it all on the field. i'm harry dunn, and on january 6th, the good guys won. my fellow officers and i fought those insurrectionists as team, we had each other's backs. we didn't do it for one person or one president, we did it for our country. >> dunn ran for congress and lost his primary. he's using the money he has left from that campaign to fund this mission. >> the reason why i ran was to do i can do to continue to fight for democracy, to fight to preserve our constitution and to fight the maga extremists and at the top of the ticket, donald trump. we did raise millions of dollars in a very short period of time, and what that told us, what that told me is that the lot of people across the country, that message of our democracy, our the threat of losing it, the threat of this being our potential last free and fair election, it resonates with a lot of people. it worries a lot of people, and it's at the top of people's minds. >> the former police officer is also taking a more active role in president biden's reelection campaign, appearing in key swing states including nevada, arizona, pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. today israelis and palestinians clashing in jerusalem as the white house sends top officials to try to nail down a cease fire deal. what national security adviser jake sullivan is saying about that after this. that after this. 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>> well, it's very tense, following those events in the old city, and the one to really watch here at the moment, chris, is ben-gvir, the far right national security minister of israel. he's really setting the tone for these protesters for the ultranationalists right wing in israel. based on kind of a biblical interpretation of the land to israel. he is saying today that the old city, the temple mount, belongs to us, meaning belongs to the jews, even though that is a holy site on the temple mount that is holy also to muslims. it's supposed to be administered by jordan, and he says the same thing about the gaza strip, saying that he wants to see jews resettling in that area. when it comes to the northern border with lebanon, where there has been so much tension, including that shooting near the u.s. embassy near beirut earlier today, he is now calling for war. he wants to see israel open a second front to destroy hezbollah, and on that point, he may not be as far off from main of israelis who have been displaced from their homes in northern israel for months now as a result of the back and forth fighting between israel and hezbollah, but he's farther to the right on many other issues and the problem here is the issues this is causing for prime minister netanyahu's very very fragile coalition, as ben-gvir, and other far right politicians are threatening to leave the government in netanyahu agrees to the cease fire that president biden has put forward, that is risking the potential collapse of netanyahu's government. so that is believed to be one reason that netanyahu has been kind of equivocating on that israeli cease fire proposal that president biden laid out, putting new conditions or reaffirming previous pre-conditions about that, before a deal can be struck by that. it's one of the reasons, tension in gaza, as well as in the old city of jerusalem are so high right now, chris. >> well, monica, president biden is sending the cia director and the top middle east adviser to the region, trying to advance the cease fire deal and hoping to bring down the temperature. tell us what we know about where the talks stand right now? >> reporter: and we've seen this happen time and again, chris, where the u.s. has sent these key negotiators to participate in these talks, and it's not like there's a formal meeting of the parties. it's to continue to have conversations with the key players in the region, and that is what the president is really hoping his senior officials can do here to keep this going. but in terms of where that stands, there had been some questions about hamas's own view, about israel's willingness to accept the current temperatures on the table, but from the u.s. perspective, they are saying that this is still something that is very much being considered still in the moment. here's how national security adviser jake sullivan put it this morning on the "today" show. >> it is still a live proposal. it's still an israeli proposal. israel is a raucous democracy, so there's a lot of talk and a lot of chatter, but the israeli government has reconfirmed repeatedly, as recently as today that that proposal is still on the table, and now it's up to hamas to accept it, and the whole world should call on hamas to accept it, the g7 countries just put out a statement yesterday calling on hamas to come to the table, do the deal, get the cease fire, get the hostages home. that's what president biden is focused on. >> reporter: the president is overseas in france, chris, but he has been getting regular updates and briefings about any developments here, and he has been asking his top officials to make sure he is on the loop on all of that that's happening because as you can imagine, other world leaders, his counter parts throughout these key meetings will be asking about this and also putting international and diplomatic pressure on the u.s. to continue to ask that it do everything it can to see if this hostage negotiation and cease fire deal can come to fruition. that's also why you saw the national security adviser meet with the hostage families of those americans who are still believed to be held in gaza. yesterday it was his ninth such meeting, and these are regular communications that we expect to continue, but the families as you can imagine are just as bracing for any kind of news here and hoping for some positive development out of this. and they also still believe this is something that could happen. it's just a matter of when and how, which of course is very complex, chris. >> so, josh, let me ask you about northern israel, the ongoing clashes between israeli defense forces and hezbollah, which appears to be escal

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