being weighed down by many weaknesses. at the heart of his vulnerability is of course his age. nearly half of democrats say it is their biggest concern and 74% of voters don't think he is sharp enough. if you are a liberal perhaps most worrisome of all an eye opening 67% of democrats prefer another candidate. let me reiterate. two-thirds of his own party want someone else to run. the issue is not just his age. nearly 60% of americans believe that biden has made the economy worse. in a moment james carville joins me to react to that but first here is a taste of how some democrats are spinning today. >> let's not forget donald trump has three fewer candles on his birthday cake than joe biden. >> sure. >> he also has 91 more criminal counts on his record than joe biden. >> if a year from now these numbers are the same, and this were a referendum, he would be in deep, deep trouble. he would not win that. >> joe biden has an incredible record to run on. i'll note this poll has a margin of error of 6% when you're talking about democrats. >> if they say we're bed wetters invest in pampers and depends because a lot of people are terrified joe biden is in real trouble. >> joining me now is former lead strategist for bill clinton's 1992 presidential campaign and the cohost of "politics war room" james carville himself. thanks for being here. look, these polls seem to get at the elephant in the room when it comes to president biden. for voters it is his age ther ka -- they are concerned about. mental acuity, his health. what does that tell us? >> to say the least the polls were not great. it tells us that, you know, voters are expressing some apprehension here. it's pretty clear. there is not much else you can say when you look at them. i guess the best thing you could say is if anything they work for trump but there is an apprehension. that is undeniable. on the other hand i point out we haven't lost an election since the dobbs decision. we were supposed to lose in november in an off year and didn't really. we kind of tied. i don't know. the polling i've seen or anybody else has seen is not very good. there was a memo, my friend jim said democrats need to quit bed wetting but my wife already changed me to rubber sheets. >> are you saying, then, that you're worried that you think the democrats should be taking this more seriously? >> well, i mean, you know, it's typically, the august or september before the election, i think president reagan's numbers were not great. president clinton's were starting to move up a little bit. same thing president obama. you can't look at this and not say you are concerned. for me to come on television and say doint find this alarming or troubling at all would be stupid. i wouldn't do that. >> look, the one thing that president biden can't change is his age. in that case, what do democrats do? i mean, i'm sure you hear it, too. there are a lot of democrats who are maybe in their mind but at dinner parties or what have you are piengning for someone else. are you hearing any real talk about another strategy for the democratic party if age is one of the things we cannot take off the table when it comes to president biden? >> i hear a lot of talk. i can't tell you that any of it is substantial. the cnn poll had a brouhaha but the ones before that weren't very good either. this has been going on for a while now. if i told you that people were not nervous, of course -- i'm sure the white house knows this by the way. they don't need to be told that, you know, the president has an age problem. >> you've talked in the past about the deep end the democrats have. do you think that should be unleashed in 2024? >> well, you know, democrats and myself included really like president biden. a lot of them think he has really done a good job, helped them a lot. he is a very popular person with people. but i think it depends on what happens here. if this doesn't get any better, people are going to get pretty shaky. >> it depends on what? are you saying it depends on how biden fares against trump in the coming months and at what point would democrats need to start making some choices? >> well, you know, mcmillan said events dear boy events. we have a lot of events coming up with trump. the economy, the hope is that the white house hope is that we'll continue the jobs growth we have, the flattening of inflation, that incomes start to inch ahead of the cpi, some evidence they're starting to do that now. but you're right. i have said it. i believe there is as much as i've seen any party have in my lifetime, i'll be 79 in october so there is a long and deep bench out there. >> you brought up the economy a couple times. everybody knows you coined this phrase it's the economy, stupid. i like to remind folks that the economy is objectively speaking improving. however, you look at the poll numbers, president biden's approval ratings are not good on this point. 58% believe his policies have worsened economic conditions. that has gone up by eight points since last fall. the white house argument is if things continue to get better this is going to be easier to message around but the economy is getting better and the numbers are getting worse. what now? >> well, i'm going to say what the white house would say. the clinton numbers and reagan was like 42% in august of 1983. he won re-election easily. clinton was i don't know, 44%, 45 or whatever, in september of 1995. he won re-election easily. so the white house is saying pretty clearly that as it takes hold it'll improve. it had improved. i think part of the problem is while inflation is coming down, people feel it still is high. you can't win an argument. if people don't feel -- it is the hardest thing to do in all of politics. when you are an incumbent and have the statistics to say it is clearly getting better but people don't feel it, when you tell them it's getting better they think you don't understand their lives. >> james, i'll ask you to put your pundit hat on for a second here. >> okay. all right. >> take your pundit hat off. or put it on. if democrats do need to find a challenger to face whoever is on the republican side and it's not president biden, just put the pundit hat on. who do you think is the best name out there that you've seen? >> every time that i give a list i forget someone. all right? >> not a list. a name. one name. >> what i would say -- well, it doesn't matter what i think. it's what democratic voters think. >> fair enough. we'll revisit that another time. thanks very much as always. >> i don't mind you asking the question. got to get a tooth out of my mouth before you get a name. thank you so much. you bet. >> tonight the seemingly endless stream of donald trump loyalists who end up paying the price for that loyalty is getting longer. a jury convicting former white house aide peter navarro of contempt of congress, joining another trump adviser steve bannon after they both refused to cooperate with the january 6 investigation. those two join all the allies charged in the russia investigation from paul manafort to roger stone and don't forget of course michael coen or the cfo of trump's empire or the head of his inaugural committee or the maryl-a-lago aides in th document case or the 18 defendants currently charged along side him in the state of georgia. trump's lawyers are now signaling they may ask to move his case to federal court. joining me now is atlanta trial lawyer and rico expert joshua schiffer. trump officially now has notified the court that he may emphasis on may try to move this case from the state level to the federal level. they're not going all the way at this point. what would be the advantage to him of moving the case out of georgia? >> out of georgia it is unlikely but moving it from the state court to the federal court is something we're already watching people like mark meadows do with the assumption it would be a more broad jury pool not limited to fulton county but ten county area of the north metro atlanta universe. that would be a more broad jury pool theoretically more conservative. it would also be less politically spicy you could say. a federal trial wouldn't have the press and media transparency fulton county indicates it would. it would kind of turn down the temperature. and federal court under the very honorable stephen jones a federal judge appointed by president obama, it is a little more austere and formal than a state court proceeding. that is really going to be an advantage due to the defenses we all expect the president and other codefendants to bring forth. >> as you alluded to there, potentially cameras in the georgia court system. no cameras in the federal court system. a huge difference for someone like trump. but you also pointed out, mark meadows has already started down this road. does trump's team potentially want to see how this works out for meadows first before themselves finding out, saying definitively whether they want to move it to federal court? >> absolutely. that is precisely why they used that specific "may" language. we know judge jones is in the middle of a really complex redistricting bench trial this week and projected to go into next week. all while we wait for his ruling on the meadows removal petition heard the prior monday. that is a big issue because if it goes for meadows maybe it is going to go for some of the other codefendants. the court would have to look at those individuals one by one but then there is the argument that what's good for one would be good for all of them and the difficulties in severing the various defendants. we also recognize what mark meadows and possibly president trump and others are going to ask judge jones to do isn't very likely. traditionally the federal courts and system defers state criminal prosecutions to the state. the states are the ones that need to take care of criminal actions within their borders as sovereign states and the federal government should only come in under very specific delineated situations. >> fulton county da fani willis is pushing back against efforts from house republicans in washington who are trying to investigate how she has handled this fulton county indictment. in a letter, though, to house judiciary chairman jim jordan a close trump ally by the way willis accuses jordan of trying to, quote, interfere with an active criminal case and argues your job description as a legislator does not include criminal law enforcement nor does it include supervising a specific criminal trial because you believe that doing so will promote your partisan political objectives. she goes on to say it is clear you lack a basic understanding of the law. these are real sharp words from fani willis and she seems to be trying to say to jim jordan, she's not afraid to fight back here. >> you're being far too kind with the push. that was a lot more than a push. rarely do we see that strong language in a published letter that is going to be consumed by the community involving high profile litigation. anybody that's ever sat and spoken with ms. willis, madame willis, knows that was her voice in that letter. you can literally hear her dictation of the terms, the mannerisms she uses. what she did in that letter, similar to what alvin bragg did when jim jordan kind of pulled the same letter stunt investigation stunt in the new york case, what fani willis did is pick apart his entire argument and as well on top of that supplement it with arguments against and regarding other issues that are going to be coming up in the case. she even goes so far as to include arguments about, hey. fulton county, the only power you have as a congress person is over federal budgeting. look at how we spend our federal budget. look at these programs. it was a full throated attack and response. it was very powerful. i think she, you know, ends up in a better position at the end of the day. >> well, as you said, not the first time we've seen jim jordan try something like this. we know a lot of it is frankly aimed at an audience of one expecting his allies, trump that is to defend him in this way. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much. new reporting just in that rudy guiliani owes millions of dollars in unpaid legal bills. here is what he is doing tonight to try to raise that money. plus all the republican candidates, nikki haley is now faring the best against president biden in a hypothetical match up. we'll discuss that as well. and a liberal mayor going off on the white house and congress with a stark warning about the migrant crisis. >> this issue will destroy new york city. ♪ at 87 years old, we still see the world with the wonder of new eyes, helping you discover untapped possibilities and relentlessly working with you to make them real. old school grit. new world ideas. morgan stanley. remember the things you loved... ...before asthma got in the way? 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