you or a. loved one have mesothelial >> and we'll come to you >> 808 to one 4,000 this is cnn breaking news >> and we do start this hour with breaking news. a judge has upheld the criminal indictment against former president donald trump in georgia. the judge, they're rejecting this argument that trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election were protected under the first amendment. >> we have cnn, sara murray with us. she's part of the team that broke this story. sarah, walk us through some of the details >> we'll look, we've heard these arguments last week, especially from trump attorney steve sadow saying that, you know, everything donald trump did in the state of georgia to overturn the 2020 election should just be covered under the first amendment. it's protected political speech. the the indictment should just be tossed out the judge today, he is not going to throw out the indictment. he did have some comments about how essentially using this speech in furtherance of an alleged crime means that it's not protected under the first amendment. he made that very clear. now, he didn't rule out the possibility that defendants, including former president trump, could bring it's up later, potentially add a trial in front of the jury and we heard from trump attorney steve sadow, today's saying while they disagree with this ruling from the judge, they're going to look at their other options, moving forward, guys >> and so the timeline here, what is the latest on this one? might this actually get started? >> you know, it's a great question i'm going to, look into the tea leaves. yeah, look what we know >> ball look. >> yeah, what we know is fulton county district attorney fani willis wants to get this trial underway. she's made it clear that she is ready to go to trial as soon as august. and of course, the trump team is happy to let this take as long as possible and we have not heard from the judge. it's up to him. him when he wants to set this trial date, he's got a little bit skeptical about the notion that trump and his 14 remaining co-defendants should all go to trial together, but he hasn't made any comments recently about a potential trial date or how he might want to split up this bucket of remaining co-defendants. >> there's also speculation out there, partly because of his ruling on fani willis being able to stay on the case that we may see a gag order a filing, asking for a gag order on the da from the trump team. what are you hearing from sources about that? >> that's right. my colleagues that cohen, jason morris, and i are reporting out that there have been some discussions among defendants for these trump allies and their attorney sort of thing. is it time for us to go to the judge and say you know, you got a gag fani willis, you can't have her out here making comments about this case. she's appeared at a number of events you suggested that some of the scrutiny that she's getting is racially motivated in his ruling. judge mcafee allowing fani willis to stay on the case. he all but invited defense attorneys to come to him and asked for a gag order. he said it might be hi, to preclude any kind of public comments. now, they still have this appeal going on. they're still trying to get willis disqualified from the case. so a number of attorneys are kind of like, let's wait and see if we can get our kicked off entirely. that would be our preferred outcome here. but in the meantime, this is something that they're sort of discussing. the other caveat here, no no defense in this case. we want this to boomerang back around. they don't want a judge to say, okay, fani willis can talk about the case, but neither can donald trump, neither can rudy giuliani, neither can georgia gop chair david shafer. these are all people who have been out here talking about the case and fani willis on social media and in interviews, that's a really, really interesting point, sara. thank you so much. for that. i want to go now to kara scannell in new york and i know carrie, you have some new reporting concerning the bond that trump paid in a separate case, the fraud case there. what have you learned? >> right this. is the fraud case involving the new york attorney general's office and trump posted the $175 million bond on monday night. now the new york attorney journals is office is saying that they want more information and they want more information because the underwriter of that bond knight specialty is based in california and it's not regulated by new york. and so they want to ensure that this bond will actually can be backed and supported by the underwriter. now, the head of that company, don hanky told my colleague matt egan that trump had posted $175 million in cash as collateral, but the new york attorney general's office is saying because this company is not regulated here, they can't get a certificate ticket from the new york regulators, ensuring that they're financially sound so they want more information from the bond underwriter and from trump about what is backing this bond and they said that they want this within ten days, or else the bond is not valid. so again, putting more pressure on trump to come up with this. now i just spoke with a lawyer who does a lot of these bond deals and he told me that this is an appropriate step by the new york attorney general's office and the options that trump has is either getting pairing up with another company that is regulated in new york that is allowed to do these types of bonds in new york. or getting a court to agree to this. so again, this will be more filings before judge arthur engoron, who is overseeing this case. but the ag's office now challenging this bond and challenging whether or not the company can support the bond, should they ultimately prevail after this appeal, rionda force kara scannell from new york. thank you so much. let's bring it in. see legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jennifer rodgers. jennifer, your reaction to this request in new york and letitia james, this move, this skepticism that she apparently has about the bond company and whether they can financially bactrim now we'll letitia james has been skeptical of trump all along. >> we've seen it >> and it looks like she's just trying to do what she can to ensure that if the attorney general's office is wind cpl, and the judgment stays as it is that they'll be able to collect. now, of course, the amount of the bond is much less than the amount the judgment that judge engoron found was ill-gotten gains, so she's still will have to go after the trump organization and the other defendants in order to collect the balance of that money. but she wants to make sure that at least the first hundred and 75 million is easy to get so it seems appropriate to me and we'll see what steps need to be taken to ensure sure. that that money is there and available for the people of the state of new york >> and jen trump's lawyer, steve sadow, just reacted to the georgia ruling. he says the defense will continue to evaluate our options regarding the first amendment challenges and the court's ruling made clear the defendants were not foreclosed from again, raising the challenge, which indeed they were not what do you think about this? what other challenges could be in the works >> well, this first amendment challenge is one that team trump has made in every single case, the notion that because he was the president and because he's a presidential candidate and because he opens his mouth and words come out everything that he says should be protected as something that they've been pressing in all the cases. and it's not really about the merits, brianna, i mean, there's no question that evidence can be used of speech that is made by defendants in the course of committing crimes. this to me is just more of a delay tactic. they're just trying to find ways that they can an appeal and delay these proceedings. so that's what this is all about i mean, you can't say if trump robbed a bank and walked in and said, i'm running for president. let me tell you about how great i am. and by the way, stuffs and bags full of money because i'm robbing this bank. >> there's no >> question that you can put that speech and even if it's intertwined with political beach, so the merits or a no go this is just all about pushing every avenue they possibly can to delay these things and possibly to get some of these arguments in front of the jury and some capacity, the prosecutor's job then will be to get a very strong instruction from the judge about what the limits of political speech are and how criminal speech is not protected by the first amendment. >> if that was a legitimate defense that was accepted by courts, you have a lot more people running for president. jennifer, i'm wondering the first amendment issue that's also part of what's being considered by the us supreme court, right? how will that eventual decision potentially play into what's happening? here >> well, those supreme court is considering the presidential immunity argument that anything that the president, former president did while he was technically the president should give him immunity from criminal prosecution. so that i think is also a no-go, but we're waiting to hear on that but the way it would impact things is it would also completely demolish the georgia case because all of the actions that are charged in georgia, our actions from when he was technically still the president as he was trying to steal the 2020 election. so if the supreme court did rule that he is immune from things that he did while he was sitting in the oval office as the president, then the georgia case would also have to be dismissed along with the federal election subversion case >> all right. jennifer rodgers. thank you so much for all of that insight. we appreciate it. >> and to head on cnn news central, we have much more on this call between president biden and 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says that he told netanyahu the humanitarian situation in gaza is unacceptable. let's listen in to admiral kirby and the overall humanitarian situation in gaza are unacceptable. >> you >> made clear the need for israel to announce and to implement a series of specific concrete and measurable steps to address civilian harm humanitarian suffering and the safety of aid workers. >> he made clear >> that us policy with respect to gaza will be determined by our assessment of israel's immediate action on these steps. the underscore that an immediate ceasefire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and to protect innocent civilians. and he urged the prime minister to empower his negotiators to conclude a deal without delay, to bring the hostages home the two litres also discussed public iranian threats against israel and the israeli people. president biden made clear that the united states strongly supports israel in the face of that's all i have >> thanks first off on that last piece, 30 you said it from him several times that hamas we're getting from turkey started deal calling on israeli is to empower the degrees years suggested that has changed as the us assessment of it's really willingness to reach a ceasefire deal change in the last several weeks no. >> it takes it takes active participation and negotiation of both sides here and that's what the president is urging. he certainly in the call with netanyahu urging that the prime minister empowered his team to the maximum extent possible to see if we can get this deal in place. and then just >> on the substance of the vilnius from the presence statement, there saying that he couldn't condition creatures good support for israel yet, it's operations in gaza on what israel does first off, what is at stake, what would be potentially cut off? from israel? briefs in this war if if he doesn't change course and second, what do you want specifically to see from israel were to do to protect civilians in humanity? >> i'm not going to preview any potential policy decisions coming forward what we want to see are some real changes on the israeli side and if we don't see changes from their side, they'll have to be changes from our side, but i won't preview what that could look like now they talked about i'm sorry. is that just the body calendar? is there in terms of concrete steps, what we are looking to see and hope to see here in coming hours and days is a dramatic increase in humanitarian assistance getting in additional crossings opened up and a reduction in the violence again civilians and certainly aid workers. we want we want to see that even as the israelis worked through their investigation, that they are willing and able to take practical, immediate steps to protect aid workers on the ground and to demonstrate that they have that civilian harm mitigation in place. so again, those are broad brushes. i'll let the israeli speak to what they will or won't do here. but again, in coming hours and days we will be looking for concrete, tangible steps that they're taking >> thanks, john. >> just to go back to >> that point, we in your readout, when you say the president made we're that the us that us policy respect to gaza will be determined by our assessment of israel's immediate action could you decode that for us? what exactly? is the warning that's being issued here? >> i think it's very clear in the language itself. nancy, we're going to the were looking for concrete steps to alleviate humanitarian suffering in gaza. >> again, >> i won't get ahead of what the israelis will or won't say are announced. we're looking for concrete steps to be announced here soon. and it's not just about the announcement of concrete steps and changes in their policies, but it's the execution of those announcements and those decisions and implementing them. and so we obviously will watch closely and monitor how they do on the commitments that they make and as i said earlier, if there's no changes to their policy and their approaches, then there's going to have to be changes two hours. >> i think i think what the world wants to understand is, is the white house warning that it may remove military aid. what exactly is the >> threat here? >> i think i've stated it pretty clearly. i'm not going to i'm not going to as i said earlier, i'm not going to preview steps. i'm not going to preview decisions that haven't been met made yet, but there are things that need to be done. there are too many civilians being killed. the risk to aid workers is unacceptable. now we have certain aid organizations that are reconsidering whether they're even going to be able to continue operations gaza while famine looms. so there has to be tangible steps. let's see what they announced. let's see what they direct. let's see what they do. >> but i'm not going to get ahead of that. >> i'm going to try this one more time because the wrecking you live that's what we did. the president seems to have said to the prime ministe