halfway around the world, thousands of michael jackson fans are attending a tribute concert in wales today. the pop icon's three children are attending it also. several of jackson's siblings are performing. it comes as jackson's physician stands trial for involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death. for the first time this week, we heard dr. conrad murray's interview with detectives. >> everything happened very quickly. just about the time i was gone and i came back. so i started immediately to perform cpr and mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. >> testimony in the trial resumes on monday. a dramatic rescue at sea. a small plane ran out of gas while flying from monterey, california, to hawaii. the pilot notified the coast guard they was in trouble about five miles from show. a rescue team coached him how to safely land the plane right there on its body. a rescue chopper pulled the pilot to safety. archbishop desmond tutu is celebrating his 80th birthday with a lot of laughter, music and prayer. among those celebrating with him, u2 hitmaker bono. >> he's a punk rock star. and i'm afraid of him. i'm genuinely scared of what he's going to say to me. and i think that's the way the south african government feels. >> apparently the dalai lama wanted to be there, too. but he scrapped his plans after south africa failed to issue a visa in time. he wished reverend tutu a happy birthday by webcast. now back to the values voters summit in washington where republican presidential candidate ron paul has just won the straw poll. cnn political reporter peter hamby joining us live again. peter, let's talk about how big paul's win was. >> reporter: well, ron paul wins straw polls all the time. he does it so often that a lot of republicans and a lot of the media doesn't pay attention. when they announced ron paul as the winner, a bunch of his supporters erupted in ron paul chants and everyone else in the room started booing them. looking further down the list, herman cain continues to do well among party activists. he finished second in the straw poll. and rick santorum, a fierce opponent of abortion rights, gave a strong speech here yesterday and he finished in third place. again, a lot of people are looking down the list, looking past ron paul a little bit. fair or not, he wins these straw polls all the time, diluting their importance at this point. >> let me ask you about baptist pastor robert jeffress who said that mitt romney is a mormon and that people shouldn't vote for him. what are people saying about that? >> reporter: that was the talk of the town. the controversy was still simmering this morning when mitt romney spoke here and actually there's another speaker on the agenda who's speaking later today who's also criticized mormonism and said it's not a christian -- he said they don't deserve first amendment rights. romney criticized him and took a moment to address the sort of tone of the conversation about religion. take a listen to what he said earlier. >> poisonous language doesn't advance our cause. it's never softened a single heart nor changed a single mind. the blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate. we want to focus on the conservative beliefs and the values that unite us. let no agenda narrow our vision or drive us apart. >> reporter: romney not directly addressing the controversy, just kind of doing it in broad strokes. the last thing romney wants to do is talk about mormonism. 22% of the country has skepticism about voting for a mormon. he wants to keep the focus away from social issues and on jobs and the economy, which is really his strength. that's why he didn't seem directly to address it. he kind of had to. he won applause for that land that you just heard today. but, again, the controversy is really the talk of this conference here, kyra, and it's not going away any time soon. >> peter, thanks so much. just ahead, more on the controversy over that baptist pastor's remarks about mormons. i talked to him a couple of hours ago. we'll have part of that interview for you next. its multi-action formula works to restore enamel, help prevent cavities, and kill bad breath germs for a whole mouth clean. whooo... 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[ male announcer ] werther's original caramel chocolate. what comfort tastes like. now back to that controversy that's overshadowing the values voter summit in washington. prominent baptist pastor robert jeffress who backs rick perry's candidacy told supporters at the event that mitt romney shouldn't be the gop nominee because he's mormon, which the pastor says is a cult. jeffress stood by those comments later during an interview with jim acosta. >> the southern baptist convention, which is the largest protestant baptist denomination in the world, has labeled mormonism as a cult. mitt romney is a good man. but those of us who are followers of christ should prefer a competent christian to a competent non-christian like mitt romney. >> i spoke with pastor robert jeffress about two hours ago. he still says that mitt romney is a moral man but mormans are not christians and he has a right to support a christian presidential candidate. pastor, first of all, did rick perry know what you were going to say when you introduced him? >> no, not at all, neither he nor his advance team had any indication of what i was going to say in the introduction. and by the way, in my introduction, as you accurately noted, i did not say anything about cults or mormonism or didn't mention mitt romney by name. all of this came about as a result of some reporters' questions after the introduction in which one reporter asked me why i personally would not vote for a mormon. that's what set all after this off. >> why did you even decide to bring this up now and bring up the issue of mormonism and the fact that you believe it's a cult? it was debated and discussed in 2008. >> right. i'm not the one who brought it up. a reporter asked me. my primary role is not of a politician nor a pundit. i'm a pastor. when somebody asks me a theological question about mormonism, i have a responsibility to tell the truth. this is no surprise, as you said, i'm not a jeremiah wright on the fringe of making fanatical statement. mormonism has never been considered a part of ooevangelil christianity. if it's a choice between mitt romney and barack obama in the general election, i will vote for mitt romney. >> i understand you say you responded to reporters. but you introduce rick perry. he's running for president of the united states. you're a supporter of his and we asked perry what he thought about what you said. this is what he told our reporters right after. >> did you associate yourself with the comments -- >> i answered your question. no, i don't think it is. thank y'all. >> here's a man that you support, he's saying right there to reporters he doesn't agree with what you said, with regard to mormonism being a cult. so does this change your mind about him and how you feel about him is this -- >> not at all. there are plenty of reasons. i believe conservative evangelicals ought to vote for rick perry over mitt romney and mormonism is just one issue for evangelical christians. but i think an equal question is going to be governor romney's lack of consistency on core issues to those of us who are evangelicals, like the abortion issue. i think many conservatives are suspect on his flip-flops on that issue. >> all right. romney, as you know, is a very successful businessman. >> yes. >> he's been a ceo of a very successful company in addition to running a state. many people believe he would be a very competent chief executive to run this nation in brutal economic times. so are you suggesting that religious beliefs should trump competence to be president? >> yes, to religious people, kyra, religion matters. and i'm a pastor. i was speaking to a group of conservative evangelicals and i said in my introduction of governor perry, i certainly tout his economic platform, his success in texas. but what i care about most as a christian is his stance on biblical issues like the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage. and governor perry has a strong, long track record of being consistent. for example, he signed the texas son gram bill, he defunded planned parenthood. those are important to us as evangelical christians. >> what does religion have to do with being a competent president? i'm talking about specifically what you said about mitt romney. >> well, john jay was the first chief justice of the united states supreme court. and he said, quote, we have a duty and a privilege as christians to select and prefer christians as our leaders. i hardly think john jay was a bigoted person. the fact is those of us who are evangelicals have every right to prefer and select a competent christian over a competent non-christian. again, kyra, it's not the only issue but it's certainly one issue that who we are evangelicals are going to consider. >> let me throw something back at you, then. let's talk about article 6, paragraph 3 of the constitution that says there's no religious test to being president. are you going against the constitution? >> kyra, that is an outrageous statement. that refers to government cannot impose a litmus test. but as individual citizens, we have every right to impose litmus tests of the kind of person we prefer. >> mitt romney spoke at the values voter summit today although he didn't mention pastor jeffress by name. he warned against poisonous language. almost 3,000 descendants of african slaves fighting for citizenship in oklahoma's cherokee nation. 150 years ago, their ancestors were enslaved not by white men, but by cherokees. soledad o'brien explains what happened when both sides went to court. >> i'm an african-american with cherokee heritage. my great grandmother, phyllis thompson pettit was a slave of the cherokees. >> reporter: what were those slaves doing for the cherokee nation? >> they were agricultural laborers. >> reporter: but in 1866, the cherokees freed their slaves signing a treaty guaranteeing that all freed men and their descendants would have all the rights of native cherokees. today that treaty is at the center of a controversy involving nearly 3,000 african-americans. on august 22nd, cherokee nation kicked them out of the tribe. >> the treaty of 1866 did not give citizenship to the freedmen or their descendants. the heart of the issue is whether or not an indian tribe can describe, can determine who is eligible to be a member of that tribe. >> reporter: in 2007, cherokee nation passed a law requiring proof of indian blood to be a member. the proof is based on a record that was created a century ago, called the dawes rolls. the freedommen say the dawes rolls are wrong because they were based on how you looked. >> if you look black, they wrote cherokee freedmen. if you looked not black, they wrote cherokee. >> reporter: in freedmen were of mixed cherokee and african blood. but on the rolls, they were listed with no indian blood. last month, it all went to federal court. >> i was restored as a member of the cherokee nation. >> reporter: a settlement has let the freedmen back into the tribe for now. the decescendants can vote but there's no report on whether they'll still be a part of the tribe. >> watch "the new promised land, silicon valley" hosted by soledad o'brien, sunday night, november 13th, 8:00 p.m. eastern. all work and no play, up next, our dr. bill prescribes us all a little r & r. and living longer is a goal for many people. and to help you achieve that goal, ten diet tips to help you live longer. first, snack on watermelon. second, stalk up ones asparagu. . who are you talking to? 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