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proposition 8 or prop 8, the state's ban a same-sex marriage, is unconstitutional. dan simon live in san francisco. dan, you've been talking to people there. how have they been reacting to the news? >> reporter: obviously they're very happy about it. they expected this, quite frankly, and we should point out a little more than three years ago, a majority of california voters said they were against same-sex marriage. well, in this case the federal appeals court said the majority doesn't rule that proposition 8, which defined marriage between a man and a woman, is unconstitutional. from here, brooke, most observers think this case will be headed to the supreme court. it does not mean the fact that same-sex marriage got a victory today that couples can start getting married tomorrow. this ruling is effectively put on hold while this appeals process continues. brooke? >> so ultimately we'll be looking for the next big step to be the u.s. supreme court. dan simon in san francisco. dan, appreciate it. thank you very much. all right. next, we're going to talk a little more about syria. to do that, i want to go to senior national correspondent nick roberts in london. and nick, we heard out of the white house daily briefing from the white house spokesperson jay carney, saying there will be a transition in syria. can you bring me up to speed and tell me about the foreign minister being there today. >> he went there with some foreign intelligence with him, and really what he was doing was backing up president assad saying he's committed to reforms, and he's committed as well to having the arab league monitors staying in the country, that they should expand their mission, but it appears to be on the surface of a rubber stamp of approval for what assad is doing in the rest of the country and in the city of homs, less than half an hour's drive from damascus itself, it has been the military on an offensive against the civilian population, the opposition. a visit by the top -- essentially the top russian diplomat is not changing anything on the ground right now, brooke. >> given the fact we saw over the weekend with china and russia blocking any u.n. action, at least thus far, is there, nick, anything else other world leaders can do to stop the assad government from wiping out the opposition altogether? >> one of the things they are doing is trying to sort of unify the opposition and get them to agree to sort of at least discuss and talk through issues and formulate sort of a coherent, unified vision of what their next step should be. that's one thing and that takes a long time. the last time the international community got them together, which was a few months ago, they brought them all together around a table and then the opposition became more divided. there are some practical things going on as well. we heard the british foreign secretary describe how the british government would be giving special equipment to the opposition. we don't know what the details of that are, but certainly one of the forcing positions has been to get that video onto the internet, video shot by cell phones, and it appears britain and the others helping the opposition in getting those videos out of the country to keep their message alive, show what's happening. so there are some moves, but these are nothing like the moves that were in a security council resolution that would have called on assad to begin to transition from power. it's nothing like that, brooke. >> nic robertson in london. we'll be watching the story day in and day out. thanks so much. next on reporter roulette, an elementary school in los angeles is replacing all 150 members of its staff, all the way from teachers to janitors, and this is all because of two teachers in the school who are being accused of lewd acts with their students in the classroom. casey is covering this in l.a. what about the school here, miramonte elementary school, what are they saying about the decision to basic rell plaally all of the teachers? >> it was clear last night, very angry parents of students at this school. it's clear the parents have lost trust in the school, lost trust in the district. so the superintendent said he had to make the decision to basically replace the entire staff, move them to a different school, a school that's still being constructed as they're restrained and re-evaluated, and as this investigation continues, when school reopens on thursday, there will be a new staff that has also been vetted teaching at miramonte. here's what the teachers had to say at last night's meeting. >> i also am in the process side by side with the police of performing an investigation. we have to ask that question and we have to take staff out and you have to do an investigation, as i'm sure you understand on others profoundly trusted to the school. i can't have any more surprises at miramonte. >> now, superintendent deasy also sending a letter to all los angeles unified school district parents urging them to report any suspicions of child abuse at their schools. that may seem obvious, brooke, but it's one of the issues that have been talked about here. many of the families at miramonte are immigrant families, from places such as mexico where teachers are regarded as unapproachable, almost like doctors, almost like second parents and parents are not used to questioning what they do. they have learned in a very tragic way that that's not the way things happen here in the united states, brooke. >> i talked to one parent last hour. she's furious and she's yanking her seven-year-old out of school. casey wian in l.a. casey, thank you so much. that is your reporter roulette on this tuesday. halfway around the world, kids are dying and their parents and neighbors are being slaughter slaughtered. rockets are hitting living rooms and bombs are tools of mass murder. >> they're showing how violence is targeting everyone. >> families, civilians, they're sitting ducks as the syrian government kills their own people. we're going to show you some haunting scenes from inside the massacre as civilians beg the world to listen. that's next. vacations are always wasn'ta good ideaa ♪ priceline negoti - - no time. out quickly. you're miles from your destination. you'll need a hotel tonight we don't have time to bid you don't have to bid. at priceline you can choose from thousands of hotels on sale every day. save yourself... some money ...we inspected his brakes for free. free is good. free is very good. my money. my choice. my meineke. i want to talk more about the carnage engulfed in syria. the white house accusing russia to giving solace to as sarks ss murders his own people. as the killing reaches new heights, we begin in bay route, lebanon. >> reporter: the images emerging from syria couldn't be in starker contrast. state television broadcasted massive crowds leaving syria just as russian foreign minister arrives for meetings with president as sarks d. at the same time, opposition activists continue to say that russia and china's position, the international communities' inability to unite on syria is simply em boldening the regime, saying the crackdown that the activists have been experiencing, especially in flash point cities like homs, have reached an unprecedented level of crackdown than began over the weekend. one civilian i spoke to was in complete and utter despair, talking about in his neighborhood, for example, there was no phone, no communications. he said he had to risk his life just to get to an area where he could make a satellite connection to try to speak out to the outside world. the violence is targeting everyone. children are dying by the day. parents in sheer and utter anguish over the fact that they're unable to protect their loved ones and activists wondering how it is that day in and day out they continue to upload these images to youtube, the world is watching, and yet it is unable to come to some sort of resolution. russia for its part wants to try to push forward some sort of dialogue that would end the crisis in syria, but activists continue to say the regime is not something they can negotiate with any longer in any sort of peaceful or any sort of uprising, for that matter. syria is one that is not going to materialize for a long, long time. >> thank you, i want to continue the kovrgs now with holla. we heard from jay carney last hour saying it's not a question of if, but when, syria's power will end assad. >> i don't know about that, but you do see total pictures of bloodshed. these are pockets of the inner city controlling the rebels, and the syrian regular army has been mounting a massive assault against these pockets of resistance. what does it mean for the regime? does it mean that it can't last, it won't last? perhaps. but the time frame is a whole lot longer than opposition activists would want and perhaps so more than some activists in capitals are predicting, brooke. >> we can talk about how or when the regime will fall, but right now you're perched in washington. what should washington and the rest of the world be doing that they aren't doing to save these lives? >> the question is, should there be intervention or not, really, is your question, brooke, and this was a question that was posed before libya. nato forces got together and decided that it was doable and that it was something that had a chance for success in libya. however, the conversation is extremely different regarding syria because you have russia and china against any form of intervention or even condemnation in a u.n. security council resolution, and also the picture is a whole lot more complex. syria is strategically differently positioned in libya. when -- what do you do? do you start arming the rebels? do you establish humanitarian corridors? i think what activists are frustrated with is there is no serious discussion of how to address this situation right now. it's all very theoretical at this stage. >> you bring up the arms. my next question is we've seen the syrian opposition kind of marching through the streets to actually now taking up weapons. are they getting help from outside syria, do we know? >> well, we have a sense based on conversations we have with some sources, that yes, they are starting to get armed, perhaps, with small arms at this stage. this isn't something they'll be able to stand up to the regular syrian army with, but yeah, the defe defectors, when they do leave with the ranks of the army, leave with their weapons as well, and we see them manning a tank here and there. but are they armed to the degree that it would require them to really resist the syrian army with their tanks and planes and helicopters, et cetera? no, not at this stage. but i think the question is also, brooke, which is important for americans or anybody interested in syria to ask, what happens when you start arming the rebels and the defectors? what situation are you prepared to live with for years to come in syria? that's not for or against, it's a question that needs to be asked as to what scenario you're looking at going forward there. >> what would a post-assad syria look like? we'll see. appreciate it. now this. chuck koch has used my sons as nothing but pawns inned media. it's had an impact on me, and has had an even deeper impact on my sons than on me. it has had an impact -- >> hmm. chilling words from the father who police say killed his own sons, his sons and himself. now josh's in-laws say there were warning signs and big red flags. she had called on police to arrest powell. that's next. josh powell is probably the most disguised father in america right now, and before he died, he gave this interview. >> i took my sons to a class this morning to learn about predators. >> why predators? >> because i had the opportunity. >> as we all know, in the end, josh powell was the predator the boys needed protection from. josh powell used a hatchet on 4-year-old braden and two-year-old charlie. he gave their toys away ahead of time. the boys were on a court-ordered visit that was supposed to be supervised, but powell locked out the social worker moments after he set the house on fire. he left a voicemail for his brother, cousins aan you seousi family members. take a listen. >> this is josh. i am not able to live without any sons and i'm not able to go on anymore. i'm sorry to everyone i've hurt. goodbye. >> police have been investigating josh powell in the disappearance of his wife susan stemming from three years ago, and susan's family believed an arrest was about to happen before powell killed himself and his two small boys. joining me now is ann bremner, attorney for the koches. they had full custody of the boys just before they learned the news of the murders. i'm sure they're just devastated. >> i had a press call and i wanted to make sure i heard it first before they did. horrific news. >> condolences go out to the family here. chuck koch told "good morning america" that was there was one warning sign. here he is. >> the only warning sign i saw was he appeared to be cooperating more with the dshs workers and the caseworkers, and i remember that he seemed to be cooperating more with my daughter before she went missing. so that was a warning sign to me. >> that was one warning sign, he says. was there anything else, behavior or otherwise, that would make the family believe he was capable of something like this? >> well, i think first of all, the best predictor of future violence and prior violence. they're convinced and i'm convinced that he killed susan, his wife. the police say there was probable cause. there were other things with the pornography of his dad and the voyeurism next door. there are things hanging from the ceiling, his brother answers the door naked when police are there. he said he took his kids to a class about predators and then he is the predator. he takes a hatchet to his kids before the phone call. we found it in the divorce file, chuck did, of his own parents. so this was somebody who was beyond scary and beyond vicious, and now we saw the final result on sunday. but could you imagine, could the family imagine he would really do something quite like this? never. who could ever imagine the unthinkable? >> and then the boys who, from what i've read and seen, they didn't want to see their father. the mother's parents had custody, they didn't want to go, but they had to. it was a court-ordered visit. this is what susan's sister said about filing a lawsuit on cnn. >> i'm not sure i haven't actually talked to my parents about that. i feel the state did the best with what they could, but they just didn't have the right information to change the visitations, and i don't think they understood how serious and how mental josh was. >> so one couldn't imagine, ann, but as an attorney as well, would they have a case if they want to go after the state? >> absolutely, and maybe it should be a law. this could be braden and charlie's law that you can't have someone in a verified suspect of a homicide with their mother with havevisitation, et cetera. they had visitation in a neutral, secure setting. and you can do that. you can have armed security when you have high-risk parents. they had that. but somehow they decided to put visitation back in josh's home, and presumably they knew all of these things, so was it foreseeable that something would happen that would harm these kids? absolutely. and that's something that basically needed a lawsuit, failure to adhere to a duty and what a horrible cost to these kids and this entire family. these little boys ran to their dad. they loved him. and he had a hatchet and set them on fire. it's the most horrific thing i've seen in my whole career of 29 years as a d.a. with murder cases and everything else, and i know the whole world is stunned and horrified and so saddened by the lives of these little boys. >> i know you said you thought he had a hand in the disappearance of susan, and they said one of the boys had drawn a picture of their mother in the trunk of a car. is that true? >> yes. and also they said mommy is in a mine. and as recently as christmas they were saying things like, if we go to the mine, we can find mommy. they've done searches in utah and nevada. out of the mouths of babes. they were vocalizing things that happened to their mother. and the police knew this. this was also part of when we look at the other case for custody, and in the custody case, chuck and judy had said in declaration that they believe josh killed their daughter, the mother of these children. >> again, our thoughts with this family. absolutely, absolutely evil. ann, i appreciate it. thank you for coming on. >> thank you so much. hear why one college has lost tuition, 22%, after a troubling discovery. a man accidentally shoots himself in the head with a nail gun. find out what he worried about the most in that moment. and the what americans rely on most from the government. the funny thing is, it's not just support. that's next. selected oats that can help lower cholesterol. is it a superhero? 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[ engine revving ] the all-new 2013 lexus gs. there's no going back. anything interesting happening right now, let's go. the vp for the komen foundation is about to resign, this after a controversy of funding for planned parenthood. the call for reversing funding for planned parenthood just last week and she released this statement, and i quote, we have made mistakes in how we handled recent decisions and claim full responsibility for what has resulted, but we cannot take our eye off the ball when it comes to our mission, end quote. now take a look at this little/big one. china's biggest baby ever, weighing in at more than 15 pounds. his mom said she felt a little off during her pregnancy, but she said she didn't need anything totally out of the ordinary, and yeah, doctors delivered him by c-section. now, imagine this in an x-ray and in your head. a man shoots himself in the top of the head with a nail gun. his name is jeff and he was just working on a house in south dakota when he shot himself in the head with a nail gun. while all of this is happening, he worries about his family. >> that's all i could think about is what would happen if i left my daughters and my wife if i would be gone. >> it took two doctors to pull that nail out. luptak is expected to make a full recovery. ouch. you always hear about the high price of college tuition, right? how about this one for you? one college is actually cutting tuition big time. this is the university of charleston in west virginia. it's slashing tuition 22% this year. it did this after enrollment dropped for the first time in a decade. officials have hoping the lower rate will help attract more students. the figure shows how many americans get a check from the government and the figure is alarming. allison, nice to see you again, by the way. we're talking a lot of people. nearly half the country here. >> when you talk about half the country, guess how much that equals? it means more than 148 million people, brooke, are getting some type of government assistance and that includes everything from medicaid to food stamps to social security, medicare or unemployment benefits. part of the reason that it's gotten so bad up to this point is because of the weak economy. people can't find a job. also, millions of baby boomers, they're hitting that social security age, although that's not need based. still, listen to this. all of these programs, guess how much that adds up to? $2 trillion with a t. that's government spending, money going to americans for public assistance. that number is up 75% fr

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