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"the washington post" is reporting as many as 21 prostitutes were brought to this hotel. "the post" is also reporting that some of the agents paid the owners of local strip clubs for the women and the next day, one of these prostitutes refused to leave the hotel room saying she was owed another $170. cnn learned she then did go to police and that's what triggered the investigation. the pentagon says as many as ten members of the military possibly played a part in this misconstruct as well. joining me live is former secret service agent dan bongino. i also understand your brother is in the service, not being investigated as part of this scandal. can you confirm that? >> yeah, we've been very open and honest that we had personal relationships with a number of people, not just family but friends involved in the investigation. i can't really comment any further unfortunately, fwu i would be happy to talk about an umbrella view of this situation. >> let me begin with, how long has this been going on? i'm talking prostitutes specifically. this can't just be the first time. this has to be perhaps the first time they got caught. >> i've been to 27 countries. i was the lead advance in three foreign countries for the president of the united states. and i can tell you, i have never heard of an incident like this happening on the trip. listen, i don't know what happened in the past and people didn't get caught for. you can never prove the counterfactu counterfactual. i don't know that. but i've never seen it, never heard of it on trips i've been on. 27 country, roughly 200 advance team members in each country. i have never heard of this before. it's an embarrassment, it's a sdis grace. i've been clear about that from the start. i'm froud of the agency. there are a lot of good men and women who work there. and unfortunately this small group of people have really tarnished us for a while. and i hope america can forgive the agency. >> when did you leave the secret service, was it a year ago? >> may will be a year, yeah. >> so just about a year ago. so you're pretty fresh off the secret service and the tour with them. >> did you know any of the guys involved? >> yeah. i know really everyone involved from the investigators to the folks being investigated to the folks who were in country providing information about what happened. yeah. these are personal relationships. some are neighbors to this day. and that's what makes this just really emotionally devastating situation for me personally and professionally. >> without giving it too much legs, mao are they handling this? are they devastated? are they embarrassed? are they married? >> i don't know if they're all married, but yeah, devastated, hue mill yated. they stand next to the president of the united states with a loaded firearm and say i go before he does. you're not going to get to him. they disregard political party, ideology. these are men and women who are real patriots. and it's unfortunate that this small group of guys that really tarnished the agency. and i think for a while now, this is unfortunately what's going to be associated with our secret service name. you know, there's a lot of people upset about this. retired and active. >> it's interesting you use the word tarnish. they're called the secret service, right? nothing about them is supposed to get out. now you have this splashed all over the papers. how can this incredibly elite group of men and women, how do they move forward? what needs to change? >> there's no opportunity for them to take a breather here. the secret service keeps them safe and secure. there's no opportunity to say let's have a board meeting here. they're planning trips right now for the president of the united states. america needs to keep that in mind. no one is asking for their sympathy for that. and the second part of your question, i think you're going to see an enhanced training requirement potentially. they were very clear when i was there as to what the rules were, but maybe you'll see it made a little more robust at this point. maybe some new revised procedures. that's the best i can guess. >> when we hear about the news now that they're losing their security clearance. what does that really mean? and how would that affect their careers from here on out? >> you wouldn't be an agent without top clearance. it's pretty standard at this point, you're lose your clearance during the course of an investigation as the events unfold. the service is confident their investigation is complete and thorough, some will get it back, some won't. some will get their jobs back and some won't. so that's pret standard. >> and if they don't, what does a secret service agent, this is what they do, what do you do next? >> that's a good question. you're traveling around the world with the president of the united states as a proud, no mill profession, not that there's not other professions out there that should be equally proud. but there's not a close second, i don't think, for the excitement and the thrill of being a secret service agent. i don't know what. co-s next for them and that's unfortunate. >> thanks for coming on. >> you're very welcome. >> house republicans want to cut billions of dollars in food stamps. who exactly in terms of numbers this could impact. and why my next guest calls this suggestion appalling. house republicans are trying to cut the social safety net to avoid cuts at the pentagon. ten-year cuts totals $134 billion. and lot of these republicans are saying the food stamp program has gotten way too big and there are folks who are getting food stamps who could probably do without them. a lot of other folks are saying the cuts would affect a lot of kids in our country. let's go to washington and talk to the executive director of the congressional hunger office here. and ed, ten-year cuts totalling $134 billion? give me some numbers. who exactly would this affect? how many? >> this would affect several million low income s.n.a.p. house holds. you're talking about a proposal as part of the ryan budget that would cut $129 billion over a ten-year period by block grants this particular program. return it to the district of the states. tomorrow they're going to cut an additional $33 billion. they indicated that there will be no harm involved. these are technical cuts. if you hear that expression from congress, no one will be harmed. that's your first notice that you should be running for cover. >> when you mentioned millions of people might be affected, i assume we're talking millions of childrens. as we talk million you have record numbers of people who are in the food stamp program. the program began spiking during the great recession. then you from 2007 to today, we have seep the food stamp roles go from 27 million to 47 million. at the same time, though, the dollar cost to the federal government has more than doubled. doubled. so you have $33 billion in '07 when things really started getting tough to $76 billion this year. how much of this is due to fraud? you have people renting out their food cards, getting these food stamps but buying food for someone else. >> my information is it is less than 1%. it's related to fraud. these are people committing fraud who are actual criminals. 99% of the program benefits go to basically, 51% go to children themselves. about 7% go to the elderly. and a significant percentage go to disabled people. these are some of the poorest people on the planet. a family of four, you know, meeting the poverty line of $23,000 really doesn't have a whole lot of money to spare. but you're talking about a population that's primarily made up of children, elderly and disabled. you mentioned 2007. that makes sen. because, you know, that was before the recession. food stamps follow unemployment. when unemployment rises, food stamps rises. >> let's pick up with 2007, i want to show the graphics again. it shows food stamp rolls doubling since 2007. republican budget cutters say look, more people are relying on government hand yachts and the food stamp handout has responded way beyond what it intended to do. that's why they're calling on these cuts. what do you say to that? >> i think the program is performing as it should. it's the only program we have you have people who need nutrition assistance. 1 in 5 members indicate they are struggling with hunger. >> i think a lot of these republicans would agree with you. they want to continue to help folk ps but they also say perhaps there's a little bit of fraud. we'll check that ag site and in the meantime, we'll see where this goes, if anywhere. thank you. the alleged mistress has football chicks talking. one woman says is this hurts all women in sports. my next guest disagrees. back in 70 seconds. we want to bring in a law professor in florida and senior director to have advocacy. at the women's sports foundation. nan nancy, you read the article, i read the krt pl . -- article. do you think this 25-year-old jessica durrel totally hurt women trying to get careers in football now? >> well, she's working in a mad men world where this is a 98% male world. so in an environment like that, anything that one woman does or doesn't do reflects off the larger group. now, the issue i have with what she said is she's really focused on the woman rather than thinking about -- there is no way that this woman, that jessica would have gotten this job had it not been for her lover. this is what quid pro quo harassment is all about. i gave you a job in exchange you agree to sleep with me. >> i'm glad you made that point. i would be loving to talk to her, but she said thanks but no thanks. she is angry at this young woman. i want eed to ask you, do you think this blame is misdirected on this young woman? shouldn't it be on petrino? he was the one in charge. >> sure. attorney-client, physicians, employer-employee. the standard rule is there are no romantic or sexual relationships between those in authority and those who are not. and so, you know, we do that in order to protect the person. you don't have to sleep with the boss in order to get ahead. 25 years ago, women really did have to put up with a lot. >> so who is to blame here? >> that's why we have these standard norms here. i would say the person really responsible is bobby. he's the one who made it so that he got her a job that he would other wise not have. and of course, bystanders get hurt. hey, i didn't get a job as a result of that. so quid pro quo harassment doesn't just hurt the person who's actually having to be the position of giving up romance and b sex, but it hurts everyone around them. they're making sure that club coaches are not involved in romantic relationships with their athletes. it really hurts the team dynamic when the coach is giving special attention over the one athlete they're having a romantic relationship with. >> she talks a little bit about her dres stankowski dard. let me just quote here. >> she says is watch what you wear. in washington, anything dressier than jeans was not okay as it was seen as a distraction in the office. i soon learned my best bet was to always wear pants and flats. it sounded like she was having to change what she was wearing because of the guys in the office. how do you feel about what she said and shouldn't it be the other way around? >> she has to be hyper concerned. again, she's in a mad men world of 98% men. you've got about 50% of men who coach women but less than 2% of women can get into the coaching world and get into the football world for coaching men. she has to be hyper concerned about what it is that she does. as those barriers break down, it will be much less of an issue. right now, the numbers the way they are, rather than blaming another woman who let's face it, jessica durrel would probably not have gotten this job if she was not sleeping with bobby petrino. rather than blaming her, to blame -- she's working in a very macho sexist call chur. that doesn't really value having women in it. otherwise, you would see a lot more women in it. >> it is an all male sport. we'll see if the barriers are broken in this kind of sport. >> there are lots of all women sports that have a lot of women working around it. >> there you go. can it be equal? i don't know. we'll see. nancy -- >> there's no reason why not. >> there you go. thank you so much. i'll tweet out this article from si. my twitter handle @brookebcnn. is it ever okay to handcuff a 6-year-old? 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[ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! a georgia police department is standing by its decision to handcuff a 6-year-old. this is according to the police report. the ro report goes on to say johnson began tearing items off the walls, tossing furniture around. police say they handcuffed the 6-year-old girl both for her safety and the safety of others at the school, .but her parents believe another intervention show been done first. sunny hostin is on the case. this is one thing we immediately started talking about in our morning meeting. this day and age, our teachers and principals so afraid to intervene, to grab a child, they actually had to call police when this happened. >> it's pretty remarkable. >> i called my mother who happens to be director of a nursery school, a principle. and she says this is just not the norm. there are things that can be done prior to calling the police. in all her years of being a director and a principal, she says she's never had this problem. she says there is a hold that you can do to try to calm a child down. she says also you can call the parent. there are a lot of steps that can be taken prior to police interventi intervention. this is actually considered very extreme in our educational system. we now know the 6-year-old will not be charged. is she facing in i kind of punishment, do we know? >> she's apparently been suspended from the school until august. until august. and we're talking about a kindergartener. that's a pretty significant thing. a significant punishment. it just seems to me, brooke, what the patients are calling for, a change in police procedure . the police chief initially said that is their procedure regardless of age of the person that they always put handcuffs on someone who is in their place koor. the real question is should she ever have been placed in the police car. they're calling for a change in procedure because handcuffing a 6-year-old is just, in my law enforcement experience just remarkable. >> sounds a tad extreme. a tad. let's get to this one. this is a hauntedous. a new jersey couple is suing a landlo landlord, saying paranormal activity is inner that home. do they actually have a case? >> that's right. you know, i don't think they have a case. there are renters who sue their landlord all the time, each and every day. and sometimes they're successful for when they shoot for constructive eviction. meaning it's just uninhabitable. they have rodents, no heat, no hot water. i just don't think that ghosts actually would suffice in terms of winning a constructive eviction lawsuit. i think what's so interesting, brooke, in response to this lawsuit, the landlord who happens to be an orthodontist has countersued them and said, in fact, what spooked them was not any sort of the ghost but, in fact, what spooked them was the cost of the rent which was $1,500. >> high school classmates hatching a plan to blow up subways in no. also not too long ago, president obama said he couldn't do anything about gas prices. yet today, he announces a plan that targets the market. so why the change. that's next. the chevy cruze eco also offers 42 mpg on the highway. actually, it's cruze e-co, not ec-o. just like e-ither. or ei-ther. or e-conomical. 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