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they are fighting hard. the president highlighted his accomplishments but cold crowds in both states that there is a lot more work to do. we'll follow that for you. now the stories you're talking about. selling sex. >> we went to this place to buy condoms and then we went to the hotel. a colombian call girl, telling secrets about the president's men. is it time to make prostitution legal in the u.s.? i ask an american madame. too many hits. too many questions. >> i say certainly ban it at the college level. >> the man who wrote the book on football wants to put an end to friday, saturday, sunday and even monday night life. vote for me. >> when i'm president, i will fight for an amendment. >> i will put in place a system. >> if you stand for everything, do you really stand for anything? will the real mitt romney please stand up? that and the skinny on what everyone is talking about in our entertainment. first, you know where we're going to start. we're going to talk sex and paying for it, legally. how often do you see a sex worker standing up for herself and unabashedly telling her story for the world to see? donnia suarez went public. she's a columbian escort who brought down almost a dozen secret service agents after they wouldn't pay her what she calls a gift. that gift, $800 for the night. it started in a bar in colombia. >> translator: my friends nor i, we didn't know they were agents, you know, obama's agents. and then we left and we went to this place to buy condoms and then we went to the hotel. >> who went? >> translator: my friend -- she's not really a friend, an acquaintance, and the agent who was with me, and the other one, the four of us. and then my friend went with him because she liked him. she liked him. it wasn't the same thing i was doing. >> but that night led to a very ugly hangover in the morning when it was time to settle up. >> translator: i told him to wake up and give me my gift that i asked him for. and he said no. just go, bitch. i'm not going to pay you. and then he -- he just -- he put out 15,000 pesos for the taxi and i was in shock in that moment when he said that. >> if she was here in the u.s., she would have had few places to turn for help. but this was colombia. in an area where prostitution is legal and she had the law on her side. >> translator: two more agents showed up and stood at the door and asked me what was going on. i kept telling them i was going to call the police so my problem would get solved and they didn't care. all they were saying is please, please, no police, no police. they were asking me not to call the police. >> but she did call the cops and now those agents are wishing they coughed up that 800 bucks. this is putting a spotlight on an occupation often kept in the dark, prostitution. and legalizing it. is it time for the u.s. to consider legalizing it? it's already legal in parts of nevada, where susan austin is a madame at the mustang ranch. susan, you already sell sex legally. i couldn't wait to talk to you because i know you're passionate about it. so what are the benefits of legalized prostitution aside from the purely physical ones? >> well, the benefits are, it's legal, it's regulated. the girls are medically checked. they're kept safe. and number one, they work for themselves. they're not in the hands of predators. these ladies are independent contractors. they set their own hours. they come in, they work for themselves. under our legal umbrella. how better could it be? they don't have to look over their shoulders and our customers are clients. they don't have to look over their shoulders either. >> and i asked you before the show, is it okay if i call you madame? you're proud of it. what did you say? >> you better. i earned the right to be madame. you can't be a madame unless you've laid on your back and sold it yourself. >> okay. there you go. that will make a headline somewhere. i've got to ask you this, when you first saw this story playing out, madame, did you say oh, here we go, did you realize it was going to get to this level? >> yes, i did. the ladies broke the number one rule, get your money up front, sweetheart. and the men, shame on them. they made an agreement. stick to your agreement. every red blooded man, when you make a hand shake, you better follow through. shame on them. don't backtrack. >> we're looking at a documentary made about the ranch that was for hd-net that we're looking at. i've seen many things about the mustang ranch. we've done stories on it here on cnn. my question to you, madame, do you think that this case, does it help or hurt the case for legalized prostitution here in the united states? because now it's connected with politicians and the highest politician in the land, the president. >> it's always connected to politicians, honey. look at it. every time a little black book comes out, it's connected to a politician. >> there's always a whole list of politicians. >> that's right. but the problem is, they usually go to the illegal side. they rarely stress it the legal -- they rearl visit the legal side. because the legal side never tells. we don't kiss and tell. that's the deal. and nevada is the only state that's been proud enough and brave enough to step forward and make it legal in certain areas and be strong enough to regulate it. that's the key word -- regulation. you have to put the regulations in position in place and be strong enough to keep it that way. we're drug free, we moderate alcohol. everything is done with the regulations in place, condom use. >> i want to get this in, though. i don't know if this is how we think about it in america. most people think it's an act of desperation. a lot of people -- women in the sex trade talk about empowerment. but what is empowering about selling your body? >> it is empowering. it's not just empowering. it's a care giving profession. when you meet a man who otherwise wouldn't receive the touch of a lady, either mother nature hasn't been kind or he's been in an industrial accident or he's come from the war and he's missing body parts and no one will look at him twice. he rolls in and all you see is the soul and you reach out and touch him and you know this is the only woman who is going to do that unconditionally without any thoughts of how he looks. you understand this is a very special profession. these women are very special ladies. they don't think about how he looks. >> yeah. >> madame, hold that thought. we are not done talking about sex for sale, not just yet. >> i hope not. >> i have a warning for guys. you need to pay attention. ahead, how one country cut the prostitution rate in half and i want you to tell us what you think. should prostitution be legal in the united states? i am on twitter right now. also on facebook as well. tweet me your thoughts. no one wants to advocate people repeatedly getting hurt and dying at an early age. >> he wrote the book on the game of football. now he's leading the charge to ban the sport. so you see everything the way it's meant to be seen. experience life well lit, ask for transitions adaptive lenses. are connecting here. linkedin connects with the big board. of all our different items in our festival of shrimp so we can describe them to our customers. 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>> we looked at the statutes that sweden has. we have penalties for the johns here. they're just misdemeanors. there's not much of a risk for the people getting caught with a prostitute. so we have the laws on the books. either tighten them up to make it more difficult or problematic for the people who are soliciting the prostitutes. >> i think that the women know, right, that nothing is going to happen to them. the men know nothing is going to happen to them. you said not much happens to the woman. but still, they're still part of the process of being prosecuted or charged with something. and the women aren't there. i don't know if it would be against our constitutional rights not to charge both sides here. >> you can charge whoever you want. if you're going to prosecute the man and take it to trial, you're going to need somebody else to say yes, he did this or gave me this money. unless it's an undercover officer. so if the lady is not going to be given immunity, you're not going to have a trial. most of the people know that. or if you do get caught, it's a minimum fine. >> madame, you know the minds of men. and you think sweden's idea would work here in america? i don't think you think it will. i think you would be against this. am i wrong? >> i don't like it at all. why would you make the man a criminal? and what you're actually doing is making the poor woman, you're putting them in the hands of the predators. so they still got those women out there working. they're pushing those women to work. so the predators are benefiting. women just aren't being charged and the men are taking the brunt of it. those men aren't criminals. and to legalize it in the united states is not the answer. it's to legalize it and regulate it like casinos and put it in specialized areas and controlled -- and striktly cold -- controlled and regulated. so that it's -- in specific areas, you treat it like a casino like we do here in nevada and do it very specifically in certain areas. it's a very special profession. the women aren't criminals. >> at some point, you have to have a morality check in the laws that you write. >> why? >> you can arrest the johns -- that's what we are. that's the kind of people we are and there are some things that aren't acceptable. >> and my ladies are decent human beings. >> nobody's saying that. but if you're going to do that, but does it stop at children, animals? at some point the women that are working at this start at children -- that's what most of the stats say. >> madame, you've heard this before, no doubt. >> i've heard this before. i started in this business in my late 40s. >> really? >> excuse me, late 40s. i put my son through college. >> when you hear that, when you talk about morality and comparing it to other things, for you, is that an argument you heard before? how do you respond to that? where does it stop? >> i've heard it. men and women are giving it away all the time. what is wrong with two consenting adults putting a price on it? men and women are putting a barttering system on it. yes, i love him. he gives me a ring, i give him sex. that's just a barttering system. but women are giving it -- >> it's not quite that simple. i mean, i've been doing criminal defense for almost 19 years now. the issue is the women -- there's pimps, prostitution that the women are victimized. >> that's what she is saying. put it on an equal footing. >> legalizing prostitution ends the pimps. >> we're going to have to end it there. sadly because i've loved having this conversation. my producer said, don't say the oldest profession in the book it's cliche, but that's what people call it. madame, thank you. i liked your candor. manny, i liked your candor, as well. as i said to the viewer earlier, i just want to read some things. my twitter feed is going crazy. both of you can hear this. it's empowering because they made a choice to make money doing what they enjoy. it's not selling their body. i think it should be legal because it would be safer without pimps. those are what most people are saying on twitter @ don lemon, cnn. be a part of the conversation tonight. we want to turn now to a tragic story that has many people talking about banning football. that's right, banning football. imagine that. the suicide of former line backer junior seau on wednesday, that's what has sparked this. the 43-year-old's brain is going to be studied to look at the effects of concussions from a career of hard hits to the head and whether those hits might have led to degenerative disease. the question surrounding seau's death are adding to the growing debate about football and critics say safety is just one problem. i want you to listen to buzz bissinger. he wrote the classic book, friday night lights. you've heard of it. he's going to surprise you. he said football at least at a certain level, maybe beyond, should be banned. >> we're going to have to make a decision, and the decision is going to be, do we have football? do we keep it the way it is? because if you water it down too much, it's not going to be football or do we ban it on every level? i think we're getting very closer and closer to that point with the death of junior seau and the suicide of ray easterling and all the studies coming out. it is a vicious game. and the problem, is and i'm first to admit this, i like it vicious and violent. but no one wants to advocate people repeatedly getting hurt and dying at an early age. >> listen, i'm glad you said that, because you are -- i refer to you as we were talking about this, as one of football's biggest fans. you wrote the book on football, in my opinion, and in many people's opinion. but i think it's very interesting that you say we're getting closer to the point where we might ban it all together. and you mean on the professional level, as well? >> yeah, because i mean, i think the problem is, and i feel this now, and i am a football fan. you're going to reach a point where you keep watering it down, it is not going to be the game we recognize. you're never going to get the injuries out of it, and i know no one wants to admit this, we like it because it is violent. we like it because it is glad torial. >> like boxing. >> there's nothing more exciting when a guy is down on the ground and the crowd is going crazy. and i do like that. but if the research continues to show how dangerous it is down the road with dementia or alzheimer's, suicide is different, but what are you going to do? >> is it realistic to think that so many people make their livelihoods on football, people enjoy it, friday night life, that's what you wrote, is it realistic to think that americans are going to give that up because of injuries? >> no, no, it's not. we can all sort of have pie in the sky things that we believe in, and i don't believe it should be banned at the pro level. the only way it could happen, as you know, there have been class action suits. there's going to be thousands of suits filed by individuals against the nfl. it's going to be like asbestos. if they lose those and they have to pay out hundreds of millions, then you may have a problem. >> i think people are going to be shocked. i think they are, that the guy who wrote "friday night lights," as big a football fan you are, they're going to be surprised that you're saying we should ban football. i think people are like, what? >> you've got to remember, "friday night lights" was a cautionary tale in many ways about what happens when you put too much emphasis on high school football and the way it damages kids. so it's not that incompatible. i want viewers to know, this is not something i'm just saying for the hell of it. i've thought about this issue for 20 years. >> all right. so should football be banned, really? you're going to want to hear what these two former nfl players have to say about it. ♪ ♪ wow... ♪ [ female announcer ] sometimes, all you need is the smooth, creamy taste of werther's original caramel to remind you that you're someone very special. ♪ werther's original caramels. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. liberty mutual auto insurance. all right. the stories you're talking about right now, more of them. more than 1,000 former players have filed suit against the nfl over the way concussion related injuries have been handled. but the nfl insists player safety is a priority. jamal anderson is here. he's involved in the newest lawsuit. how many are involved now? >> it's 114 players. >> lamar, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> you heard what buzz had to say. he wrote "friday night lights," the book, television, movies, on and on. what do you think? do you think a ban on football is going too far? >> i think a ban on football is definitely going too far. as long as the money involved, the number one sport in america right now -- >> number one and two. >> when you hear things, it hasn't been determined exactly, you know, yet if he had a degenerative disease, talking about junior seau. >> right, but when you see that sort of thing, how can you say we shouldn't -- don, it's good we're having the conversation to make the game safer. >> i heard that. how do you make a helmet that much safer? >> there's a lot of money being made in football. >> i'm not saying it should be banned. >> rights, absolutely. >> but there's new ways to improve the technology and there are ways now especially with having this conversation where we can try to improve what we do on the football field. certainly awareness. you see the things transpiring about safety and i think it will trickle on down. >> what the research shows, and i've been talking to dr. gupta and fran tarkenton and a number of people working on this issue, that it's repeated blows to the head. so they're saying hey, maybe kids shouldn't be playing football, youth football. maybe college, buzz is talking about the money in college and talking about safety and education. i don't know, should youth football be banned? should you limit it? >> i think jamal hit it on the head, it's the awareness. a lot of people pre-2007 did not know what this was at all. i think now what wi do at the nfl will trickle down to college and the high schools as well. but there are options out there for guys to protect themselves as far as helmets and new technology to protect the younger generation of football players. >> there's no way youth football should be banned. >> someone tweeted, i'm surprised there's not a constitutional amendment on football, because it will never be banned. there's too much money there. it's america's sport. >> never. i asked this, if you had a child of the age to play football, would you allow him to play football? he said no way, don, no way. and jamal, your son -- >> right. >> and there are photos of them here. >> my son, jamal, you see him right there. >> do you let him play football? >> yes. last year he played for middle creek hawks. we won a championship. i'm the offensive coordinator. each parent should ta

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