together how this unfolded. i want to bring in ed lavandara who is in the parking lot and talking to a lot of people who were in the room and saw the gunman, and who heard the explosions, and what have you learned? >> well, suzanne, we are right now waiting to give you an update, and we are waiting on a briefing from the law enforcement officials here in aurora, colorado, and we are several hundred yards away from the movie theater, and we anticipate it will happen here shortly. we were talking earlier with one of the witnesses, this gentleman here, chris raw moes wmos, who inside of the movie theater and we were cut short, but chris' account of what transpired last night is so poignant and we wanted to bring him back, because we were cut short. for viewers who were not watching a little while ago, you are in the middle of the theater basically and with your sister. >> and two best friends, yes. >> and we are a short ways into the movie and what do you see? >> on the front right emergency exit, a door opens and then from there, something is thrown up in the air, and honestly, we thought it was part of the movie. but it turns out, it was actually tear gas. it explodes and then it starts going up in the air. >> this is a couple of rows in front of you. >> yes, a couple of rows in front of me, and three or four rows down. the impact of it was very, very strong. he threw one for like three rows in front and threw one way out in the back. people from there just started standing up, and we heard like firework sounds like bam, bam, and that is when everything gets crazy. it goes rapid like, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, and the guy next to me gets like, he gets shot. and i hear like the noise of it like a splash noise, and he just jerks and it happens fast and then i just jumped down with my sister. >> how old is your sister? >> 17. 17, and i brought her to have a good time to enjoy a movie, and it turns something completely straight out of a horror film at best. >> and were you able to get a look at him? >> i was not able to get a good look at him. from where i was at, i only saw the figure. it was complete black. that is all i ever saw. >> you thought he was wearing a mask? >> yes, a gas mask, yes. he had to, because of the fact that the tear gas was everywhere and like complete ly filled in the building. >> was he saying anything? >> he was not saying anything at all. he was just quiet, and he was literally shooting everyone like it was like hunting season or something. people were standing around and he was not aiming for a specific person, but he was aiming for as many people as he could. >> and then it stopped? it stopped after a minute and a half to two minutes, but it felt like it was so much longer, but it was not. >> and did anybody try to go after him or anything? >> no, that is the thing, everybody was running in the chaos and everything and he casually walks up away from the screen like nothing happened. honestly that is the part that really got me. the fact that a man can really just walk casually like nothing happened knowing that he just shot a whole bunch of people. right then when it stops, i get up and tried grabbing my sister and getting out of there and there are bodies on the floor and the chairs and the blood everywhere and people shot and trying to get out. >> sorry to interrupt. the man next to you sh, do you w what condition he is in. >> i talked to the daughters of the guy sitting right next to me, and they said they tried to wake him, and they were calling him and saying, dad, dad, and trying to make him respond, but he was not responding. and then like i see them out like 20 minutes later in the parking lot, and their dad was not with them like at all, and they were saying that he is still inside. >> how young were the girls? >> 18, 19. >> teenagers? >> teenagers. they are teenagers and looked like they were on the phone talking to their mom, and they were crying and the dad was like in there. that wasn't the only one. there are more people in there looking for people. there is, i saw this girl crying because her boyfriend was still in the theater. and she was crying and calling him, and calling him, and he was not answering. >> was everybody rushing to get out at the same time? >> so many people were rushing and people were trampling over everyone and running on top of me and running over the bodies that were down on the ground. everyone, their number one instinct was trying to survive. i can't blame them, because i was not thinking of anything but to get out of there. i tried to get my two best friends and my sister out. that is all i could think of. >> as you tried to leave the theater, do you believe that the gunman was still in the theater? >> he was definitely still in there, because i never saw him going out or leaving. like i said before, right when the shots stopped, he just started walking away from the screen. not towards like the right sid of the exit where you can enter and exit like the right or the left side, but looked like he was walking straight. and from there right when we left, we didn't see him. he was not in the lobby or anything like that. >> do you think that he had help getting into the theater? did you see anything suspicious in the moment right before that? >> this is the thing, honestly i saw the door opening and the door opening right there, and i did not see anyone helping him at all, and i'm pretty sure if someone did, someone would have screamed or heard something, and honestly, it just looked like he opened the door. just opened it. that is all it looked like. definitely did not look like any help from anyone else. like i said, i had known for a fact that there was one person there shooting and i tried to put my head up and shooting, one guy. >> do you think that the people who were shot or wounded or killed there were they in the area closest to you or spreadout throughout the evening? >> well, that is the thing, people shot at, too, and my friend a.j.boyk got shot, and he was in the front row where the handicaps were at, and the guy next to me who got shot. we were like three or four five rows up from the middle, but below. and he was aiming everywhere. there was not a specific spot he was aiming at or aiming for a certain person. he was literally aiming for everyone, and trying to kill everyone as much as he could. >> and when you got outside of the theater, you spilled out into the parking lot, right? >> yes. >> you were telling me that you were helping somebody out there who was wounded? >> yes, a guy who got shot in the leg was calling for help and we helped him out, and i grabbed my sister's belt and wrapped it around to try to stop the blood flow and we picked him up and dragged him out to the parking lot where the cops were out, and he was trying to call his wife and everything. and the sad part is that with this evil, this death, it had no bound, no shame, and it did not care about age or sex or care about anything. little girls were shot, and little boys were shot. elderly people were shot and teenagers were shot and people still in high school were shot. he did not care. death did not care at all. about age, sex or anything. it was all a massacre. >> well, i know it is an emotional moment for you. i appreciate your sharing. do you think -- you were telling me a second that we were talking earlier that you don't see how you get over this? >> it is a hard thing to get over. but it is definitely not impossible, and i can't change what happened at all, but the only thing that i can change is what is happening now. i know 14 people or whatever the exact number is, their lives have been taken away and the fact that a guy next toe many got shot, and i don't know how he is, but the fact that it missed me, i am thankful that i have a second life and i don't want the take it for granted. i know that there is evil in the world and i'm not naive about that, and there is evil in the world, but there is good. the one thing that i want people to know and the main message that i want people to get across is not to forget that, to remember the good times of life and the beautiful things, and don't just remember the horrible things about life, because life can be a beautiful thing and we have to be strong and overcome to evilness like the movie of batman and the true message of it standing up against corruption, against evil, against death, standing up and a normal sit zen stacitizen stand what is right. it is ironic that happened but it is the message that the batman movies give out, standing up for something that the is right, and even though the times get hard, and the darkness is always darkest before the dawn. the second movie, that is what it said. it is exactly like this. >> i hope that good attitude he helps you get through this. and i know it is difficult. thank you for a very poignant and very -- thank you for sharing that with us. suzanne, i mean, that is as powerful as it gets and i will just leave it there and let viewers kind of soak all of that in as best they can right now, suzanne. >> well, we appreciate chris so much just for the emotion and the insight and he is a survivor of something that is so tragic and he is learning that he is taking away a life lesson, and i think that we can all share and take away. thank you, ed. i appreciate it. and please, thank chris as well. as you can imagine, there are 911 call s ths that started pour in after the gunman opened fire. i was a frantic time for the police as well. i want to play for you this dispatch calls from the officers as they tried to rush in and help some of the victims. >> it is secure and bringing out the bodies right now and get to the back as quick as you k. i have three to zen hit. >> cruiser ten, i need a victim. >> shut the movie off in nine. >> do i have permission to take the victims here? i have a lot of people shot here and no rescue. >> yes, load them up in cars and get them out of here. >> we will have more details about some of the things found in the apartment of the suspect james holmes and some of the details about what took place in that theater up next. >> well, after all of the shooting was done, i looked up for a brief second and i saw he was reloading and walking towards the back of the theater and the arch is up, and i saw he was walking back there and i grabbed my girlfriend and my friend and i said we have to get going, because he is reloading and now is the chance. leaving i saw a guy laying on the floor covered in blood and a lot of people ran to help him when the guy was reloading the weapon. so we just left and a bunch of people left at that time. it was just crazy. juicy brats grilled up on a thursday. the perfect use of the 7th inning stretch. get that great taste anytime with kingsford match light charcoal. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] what's the point of an epa estimated 42 miles per gallon if the miles aren't interesting? the lexus ct hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. i tell mike what i can spend. i do my best to make that work. we're driving safely. and sue saved money on brakes. now that's personal pricing. investigators are searching the apartment building of james holmes who is the suspect of the theater massacre, and joe johns has more on what the investigators are finding. what do we know so far, joe? >> well, suzanne, conflicting reports, and this is important, conflicting reports of whether there are in fact explosives believed to be at the apartment of the suspect where authorities have been camped out for so long this morning. there had been se fairly per sis tent reports that the apartment might have been even booby trapped however, and we want to make clear that these are conflicting reports. an official who is familiar with the investigation has told cnn that the alcohol, tobacco and firearms bureau along with federal agents, fbi agents, have joined aurora police now in the search of the holmes' apartment, and after using a bomb sniffing dog, officials determined there were no bombs or explosives on the scene. so, your question would be if there aren't any bombs what has been taking so long there? another federal official has told cnn that in fact that they did take some time to try to get a warrant, a search warrant to go in there to continue their investigation, so there may have been some what of a hold-up over getting a search warrant. federal officials say that no explosives at the scene, but it is important to remind our viewers that federal officials are not in full control of the scene there in aurora, colorado. it is in fact, local authorities who have control of the scene. so, we are waiting to find out what they say, and hopefully in just a little while to give us more information about this status of the explosives investigation. meanwhile, the same authority who told us about the development with the bombs or no bombs also says that four weapons were recovered by authorities and those weapons were an assault weapon described as a 223 caliber knock off of an ar-15, and that is a new information as well for people who understand guns. they are not using the term ak which is something that we had been reporting earlier and saying that there was an ak knockoff but now we are told that it is more like an ar-15, along with the assault weapon that officials say that they retrieved a shotgun and no more details on that and two glock handguns and they could not though provide any information to cnn on how many of those weapons were fired during the attack, suzanne. >> and joe, we know that mike brooks had reported earlier that according to his sources that they actually widen the perimeter while they were doing that search for possible explosives just in case, because they didn't have a sense of how big or what they were dealing with here. >> absolutely. >> and i wonder when folks will be able to come back into the building? >> right. >> and secondly, and i don't know if we know this or not, whether or not james holmes lived alone or had a roommate or somebody else who lived in that apartment complex. >> there are a lot of details up in the air and including the explosives at the apartment, because you have the feds saying one thing and the locals seemed to have put out information that says quite the contrary and they believe that the building is booby trapped. what we have been told is that the dog has sniffed the grounds and found in indication of explosives there. so hopefully at this news conference coming up soon, they will be able to work out all of the details for us and give us some indication of whether they do in fact think that the area is safe and that people can go back in, suzanne. >> and joe, just to clarify, are they talking about his apartment alone or the whole building they have not found any explosives within that whole building, that structure? >> right. my understanding, and i have asked this question a few times again to the producer terry fried who has been talking to his sources as well, and they are talking about the apartment. i can't give you any further information about the apartment building and we do know it is that entire building that has been evacuated. my understanding is that the questions raised to the official who knows what is going on on the ground had to do with the apartment proper, suzanne. >> all right. joe, we do know that there is going to be at least a scheduled expected press conference with law enforcement authorities in 12 minutes or so, and so if we get more information cleared, we will go to that and see if we can't sort all of that out. joe, thanks again. i want to talk to jennifer seeger who was actually there and sitting in the second row of theater 9. this is a woman who came face-to-face with this guy, with this gunman, and she is joining us from aurora, colorado. jennifer, you have told your story, and it is just harrowing to hear the kind of experience that you underwent last night. can you take us through when you first realized that there was something terribly wrong? >> yeah, ki definitely do that. it has been kind of a roller coaster for me just as far as flashbacks, but, you know, i was sitting in that second row on the very end, and i was the first person there, and when he walked in, he came through an exit door in the coroner the back hallway. i thought he was part of the entertainment as far as i could see. i thought he was just adding i pizazz to it, and he had on a gas mask and a rifle in his hand and what he did was he came in and he didn't say a word and all he did was to take a green grenade full of gas and took the tab off and threw it and it explode everywhere. as that happened, everybody was coughing and screaming and then he shot a fire up into the ceiling and that is the first shot of the night, and that is when people panicked and knew it was not for entertainment, and he was a real bad guy, and he walks a little further and takes a couple of steps and points it to me, and he has a rifle at me and he is literally three feet away with me with a rifle in my face and i was petrified and i did nont e what to do -- didn't know what to do and i knew i had five-second window to do something, and so i dove forward to the aisle on the ground and tucked underneath the chair to try to hide myself and then he ended up shooting somebody behind me, and all of the bullet casings kept falling on my forehead and singeingy forehead and all i could hear was gunshots and screaming and relentless shots over and over, and i told everybody to stay calm and don't move and once he goes up the stairs to crawl as far as we can on to the other side to try to escape. once i ended up doing that, you know, it was a terrifying process. all you hear is women and children screaming, and you see gunshots fired and at one point it is quiet and he was reloading the gun and everybody was running an scattered. he did not vn aed a jen d ed ed an agenda, because he was just shooting people, and a massacre. and women and children and a baby was even there. and i would loved to have taken a bullet for that 6-year-old to have lived. i could not fathom that thought. >> that is a very admirable thing to say and to feel to want to do that to save somebody else. how did you manage to save yourself? how did you get out? >> i, you know, it was a very big process. i don't even know. it is a big blur as far as things goes. but when i was went and got on the other end of the aisle, everybody tried to run out towards the door, towards the exit, and then i saw them running back in, because the gunman was taking the gun and shooting people so that they could not escape the exit and running back in, so i told people to just play dead, and lay in the aisle and lay still and act like you are dead and he went on the way and went to somewhere else to shoot somebody else, and at that point i said, everybody, go, just move, move, move, and at that point i saw dead bodies laying on the stairs and like a 12-year-old girl who was just lifeless on the stairs and i was completely devastated at that point and i did not know what to do. i almost did not make it to the very end, because that tear gas was getting to me and my eyes were watering and i was panicking and at that point i brushed against a young gentleman who would be 18 years old who had a bullet in the back, and bleeding. i had e.m.t. training and trying to instinctively figure out if he was okay and i was feeling the pulse and he was fading away quick, so i tried to pull him out. at that point they were like, no, no, put him down, because he is coming back and he will shoot you, so i got scared and ran and dropped the young man and i don't know if he is okay or not, and i hope he is. i would have gladly taken a bullet for that man as well. all i did was to bear crawl my way out, and that i would not get shot or anybody else got hurt anymore.