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also, take a look at this. it is the cheapest computer tablet in the world. and before you even ask -- no, you cannot buy it here in the u.s. that story ahead as well. let's start with the fight over the president's jobs bill. the senate is expected to vote on the plan in a matter of days. the measure could cost an estimated $447 billion. the president said, hey, it is paid for. $453 billion, he said, would come from his proposed tax on millionaires. the bill calls for new and extended tax cuts along with additional spending on roads, bridges, infrastructure projects, job training and help for those with housing problems. republicans, as you might imagine, don't like the president's plan. that's not stopping the president, however, from pushing ahead, especially with the tax on millionaires which republicans call class warfare. >> some see this as class warfare. i see it as a simple choice. we can either keep taxes exactly as they are for millionaires and billionaires or we can ask them to pay at least the same rate as a plumber or a bus driver. and in the process we can put teachers and construction workers an veterans back on the job. >> the president just today either will say or has already said at least put this jobs bill up for a vote so that the entire country knows exactly where every member of congress stands. i hope the majority will respond to the request of the president that we give everybody a chance to go on record on the second stimulus bill. >> a little later this hour i'll talk to our chief political correspondent and "state of the union" anchor candy crowley talking about the president's jobs bill, the tax on millionaires and the presidential race. ron paul is getting another straw poll victory in his race for the republican nomination. he was the top vote getter at the values summit in washington. herman cain came in second with 23%, rick santorum in third, rick perry came in fourth and mitt romney was sixth. both perry and romney were in single digits. just past the top of the hour here now. let's talk about these angry americans. you might be one of them but a lot of them are now out in the streets demonstrating. what began as the occupy wall street rally in new york, these are spreading all over the country. take a look. these occupy protests have been going on for about four weeks now. demonstrations happening in a number of places. a lot of people upset about the lack of jobs, the perceived corporate greed, anger over government leadership. more than a dozen states and several cities we've seen these things. among those we've seen this weekend in the nation's capital. demonstrators in sacramento, california yesterday were chanting a theme you might keep hearing over and over at many of these protests. listen to this. meanwhile, a rally in atlanta. kind of interesting back-and-forth that took place there. a few hundred people turned out. it was in a downtown atlanta park. one of the people who turned out was civil rights icon and georgia congressman john lewis. he wanted to speak to the crowd, but first protesters wanted to put it to a vote. listen to how this back-and-forth played out. >> he has fought for the freedom and the dignity and respect of countless lives. >> of countless lives. >> however -- >> however -- >> the point of this general assembly is to kick-start a democratic process in which no singular human being is inherently more valuable than any other -- >> what you're hearing there, the crowd around him repeating what he was saying. that's just so everyone out there could actually hear because he didn't have microphones. kind of how they did their process out there. lewis, meanwhile, told reporters he was not disappointed that he wasn't allowed to speak. even said it reminded him of some of the early days of the civil rights movement. >> in another time, in another period when i was very young and head of the student non-violent union, we participated in a similar process. we would discuss, we would debate and until we reach consensus. so this is not something strange or out of the ordinary for me. >> are you disappointed that did you not get a chance -- >> no, not at all. not at all. >> onwhat does that say about ts process? >> it will work out. it will come of age. >> congressman lewis joining me now live on the line. congressman lewis, good morning. you hearing me okay? >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm doing all right. we appreciate you giving us some time. let me ask you first of all about this rally. why did you go in the first place? >> well, the rally was less than a half a block from my office in downtown atlanta and i came downstairs and walked across the street to lend my support and to encourage the people because i support their efforts all across america and i didn't really ask to speak or request to speak. other people wanted me to speak. but they wanted to finish their business and i could speak later. but i didn't have the time to wait around. i had another engagement across town. so after some debate and a vote and they said after they complete their business, then i will be allowed to speak. but i had to leave and so i left. so i was really not denied a speaking chance. it would have been much later and i just couldn't wait. >> were you surprised or maybe even disappointed at how it kind of played out? we saw you standing there on the side and as this crowd of folks were debating about whether or not you should be allowed to speak. but were you surprised by that or even disappointed that you were not able to -- >> no. because during the '60s we went through similar efforts as participants in the civil rights movement. we went through a period where we called freedom high. who made that decision. and it was a whole struggle to get consensus. it is the essence of a democratic process. i've been down this road before. >> well, what is your sense of what they want? do they want to be heard or they would like to have a conversation? because a lot of people took it as if they didn't want to converse with you, they just wanted to talk at you and make sure you could hear them. what is your sense of actually what they want? >> well, they want to be heard. they want to be heard and at the same time they want to speak to america, speak to people in power, to officials of the american government but also to the business community, especially wall street, to corporate america, to bankers. they're saying, in effect, that we bailed out wall street and now it is time for wall street and corporate america to help bail out the american people. people are hurting. they're in pain and they're looking for jobs. they want us to humanize the american government but also humanize corporate america. >> will they at some point -- there are so many people involved, there are so many cities and different groups kind of popping up. does it do them justice or an injustice to not have a very clear message and almost a clear set of requests or demand from their government? >> well, i think it is important to have a set of priorities and we did it under the civil rights movement during the early '60s, mid '60s. we had our one, two, threes, we had our abcs. when we marched on washington 48 years ago we marched for jobs and freedom. but we spelled it out. we said we wanted a civil rights bill. we said we wanted that bill to contain a ban on discrimination and public accommodation and employment and we got it a year later. but these individuals all across america are saying, in effect, that the banks and other other businesses are holding millions and billions of dollars and they need to invest in the american people. they need to put people back to work. >> sir, what does -- does do them a disservice as well when maybe some of the people who stand out in the crowd maybe get some of the attention or maybe an incident like the one that happened with you gets attention or the incident that happened with charlie rangel up in new york where he was kind of booed and in some ways run out of there. does the attention given to some those incidents do harm to the movement? >> well, people should see some of us in the congress, we're on their side. we're their friend. we're supporting them. and they need to realize that as we are not enemies. >> you get a sense last night or this weekend when you were there that they felt like you were a friend or the enemy as a member of congress? >> oh, no. the great majority of the people supported my being there. they were happy to see me. when i walked up they started cheering. so, no. they know my history, they know my record. >> all right, congressman lewis, we appreciate you hopping on the line with us talking to us about these protests. always good to talk to you. i know i'll talk to you again soon, sir. thanks so much. >> good to talk to you. 11 minutes past the hour now. that incident i was talking about there with charlie rangel. this is how it played out. let's let you hear how it played out when he tried to go to a rally and show his support to the protesters up in new york. >> go home! go out of here! go home! boo! boo! boo! boo! >> now after this incident, representative rangel said he wasn't sure if he was the target of that heckling but said if he was, then he certainly understands. >> and occupy wall street, we have an economic elites accountable! >> the occupy wall street protests now in day 23 despite the growing crowds and momentum, we have been seeing at the demonstrations, not everybody a fan, including new york city mayor michael bloomberg suggesting protesters may be doing more harm than good. and he said, and i quote, if the jobs they're trying to get rid of in this city, the people that work in finance, which is a big part of our economy, if those go away, we're not going to have any money to pay our municipal employees or clean our parks or anything else. coming up on 13 minutes past the hour now. we turn to libya where fighters loyal to the new government suggest their nine-month-old civil war may be nearing the end. rebels say they are in the final stages of taking control of the town of sirte, the hometown of moammar gadhafi and one of the few remaining areas loyal to the former dictator. we will have more on this story a little later when we talk live with our nic robertson who is in the region. still to come this morning, a sixth-grader ban grd wearing her rosary to school. coming up in a half-hour, i'll tell you why school officials want her to leave it at home. but first, a huge loss in professional football. one of the game's legends. legendary owner al davis has died. al davis' contributions to oakland and the nfl coming up. also this morning, lebron james and dwyane wade face off on the court. yes. an all-star game hosted by the players themselves. stay with us on this cnn sunday morning.y than many other allergy medications. omnaris. omnaris, to the nose! did you know nasal symptoms like congestion can be caused by allergic inflammation? 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>> there is basketball. not necessarily nba basketball, but nba players are playing. >> last night the big three, dwyane wade, lebron james hosting an all-star charity game in miami. players say they will continue to keep holding these games for as long as the nba lock-out continues. day 101. afterwards the associated press reported the players got together after this game, they met and the message there was basically, what, don't agree to anything. don't agree to anything until you know what you're agreeing to. don't concede to anything. obvious lit big sticking point right now, owners want a 50%-50% share of the revenue. players want 53% of that. in all likelihood we expect tomorrow the league will cancel the first two weeks of the regular season. >> this game was broadcast locally. >> yes, it was. >> now is there some relevance to that or is there any sign or showing that we can actually organize this ourselves? >> i don't know. i really don't think so. i think the players and owners realize they need each other. it was just like the nfl. they realize they need each other so eventually -- we saw this back in 1999. the same thing i believe when the season was shortened down to 50 games during the shortened season there. eventually they'll work things out hopefully. i don't think we'll lose the season but it is just going to take time and somebody is going to have to make concessions. >> you're more optimistic than a lot of folks are. 21 minutes past the hour now. people in denver already getting out snow shovels? last week they were still running around in shorts and tank tops. what happened? our reynolds wolf will be along in just a moment. >> also this morning -- when turkeys attack. yes, a wild turkey chases a california news crew and that's not the only person this turkey's been chasing. stay with me. 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