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the email from a firm executive says jon corzine gave direct instructions to transfer client funds to cover and overdraft in another account. it was just three months ago when jon corzine told members of congress this -- >> anyone at mf global to misuse customer funds, never intended to, and as far as i'm concerned, i never gave instructions that anybody could misconstrue. >> well, how damning is the e-mail we now have. represented jon ghn gotti jr. i out front now. put into another account, treasure of mf global has in an e-mail, this was per jc" jon corzine's, instructions. >> we don't know if the monies transferred were actually client monies. we don't know even if they were client monies that corzine knew they were. because the account also contained firm funds which were, could have been transferred out properly, and apparently corzine and the firm nobody of represented in writing they weren't client funds. >> do you think there's room to dance around here? >> legal room. it looks bad at first blush but by no means open and shut a. house committee on a report as they continue to investigate. >> the bigger problem if he lied previously to congress, in more trouble than anything in terms of the underlying conduct. >> what's your take where this eventually goes? a lot of talk. bankruptcy since lehman brothers, no financial executive or anyone linked to the financial crisis has gone to jail. including countryride ceo. charged dropped. will jon corzine be the first? >> could be scapegoated. i think he'll wiggle out no matter how bad it looks now. >> because this e-mail, the worst evidence they have? is that good news or, for him or -- >> unless they're holding something back. if this is the smoking gun, the smoke is pretty hazy. >> thank you very much. mark, we appreciate the perspective. as think investigation continues, the house financial services committee of jon corzine. other breaking news story tonight literally at this moment, supporters gather for a candlelight vigil for teen shooting victim trayvon martin. the vigil begins as we speak. continuing to demand the arrest of neighborhood watch man george zimmerman. he claims he shot the teen in self-defense. the teen's death sparked rallies across country. for the first time today president obama weighed in. >> my main message is to the parents of trayvon martin. you know, if i had a son he'd look like trayvon, and, you know, i think they are right to expect that all of us as americans are going to take this with the seriesnessness it deserves in that we'll get to the bottom of what happened. >> also learning tonight that 28-year-old george zimmerman hired a defense attorney. craig sonner is his name and he spoke with cnn a couple moments ago and says right now zimmerman is in an undisclosed location for his safety, he's under a lot of stress but cooperating with the police. let's go to john zarrella at the vigil in sanford, florida, for the latest. tell us what's happening there. obviously, as dusk descends. >> reporter: just now getting started. people are still gathering here outside the allen chapel where this candlelight vigil is just getting started, and the idea tonight is to put a cap of a week of activities in this community as they honor the memory of trayvon martin. wit lighting of candles here during this one-hour ceremony. you know, last night a very large crowd, 7,000 to 10,000 people, there have been marches and demonstrations all across the country. dozens of high schools, walk-outs during the past two days here in florida by students showing support. another rally planned on monday in atlanta, and, of course, another big event here on monday at the city council meeting. a marched plan to that city council meeting by people here in the community and then they expect their voiceless be heard monday at that meeting, but this has been a very long week here, and you get the sense, erin, that people here are emotionally drained. if not in many respects physically drained. erin? >> thank you very much, john. obviously, hard to hear there. as it ramps up. we'll keep you posted on how many people come and how that vigil in sanford, florida, is tonight. you heard president obama weigh in into the case. that was just this morning. later today the republican candidates followed suit. >> it's chilling to hear what happened, and, of course, the fact that law enforcement didn't immediately go after and prosecute this case is another chilling example of, you know, obviously horrible decisions made by people in this process. >> i have faith that the american system of justice will, in fact, work, and that this is why you have a balance between the police and the district attorney. the district attorney has the ability to step in and say, wait a second. let's look at this again. they're clearly doing that. the police chief himself has been suspended. and i think that americans can recognize, and while this is a tragedy, it is a tragedy, we're going to relentlessly seek justice and i think that's the right thing to do. >> mitt romney did not comment, obviously, on camera, but he did release a written statement publicly saying "what happened to trayvon martin is a tragedy. there needs to be a far investigation that reassures the public that justice is carried out with impartiality and integrity." our panel is leer. let me start with you, john. did the president go far enough, too far, did he get right? >> he walked the right line. speaking as a parent reminding everyone of the commonality all parents should feel when a child, a teenager is murdered. and question remains. it wasn't political. it was personal, and speaking as the president of the united states, that's a more powerful message than by politicizing. >> you were tweets gop candidates can followers because the president came out first. >> not just because the president came out first. i've been tweeting and facebooking all this all week that romney and santorum as leaders in the president's campaign on the republican side hadn't come out and said anything. three days ago i noted sam youngman from the hill asked mitt romney on the rope line for a statement on this and mitt romney walked away and wouldn't say anything. today he didn't say anything on camera. he put it out on a statement, and the governor of florida asked for a task force today. i'm wondering whether or not the republicans decided to sit back and let the republican governor of florida lead on this before they came out and said something. i think if they want to be leaders they should have come out a little earlier and said something earlier than today. >> ryan? >> interesting that jamal says that. my sense, a remarkable consensus. the republican governor of florida saying we might need to revisit the law surrounding this. the co-author of the legislation saying the same so-called stand your ground legislation saying the same thing. you have major republican presidential candidates saying this is a profound tragedy. the senate republican majority lead are saying the same as well as democratic leaders across the board. a huge outpouring of sympathy and deep concern. i've got to say, saying that, well, you know, this person came first, that person came first. that doesn't seem to be the key message here. the key message seems to be that everyone is deeply troubled. the other thing about what the president said is this. there are a lot of people in this country who don't feel as if the criminal justice system is truly legitimate. that it actually gives them equal justice and they feel genuinely left out and disenfranchised. very valuable not only for the president but his candidates saying, we believe this system is going to work and hope that it works. >> bipartisan. go ahead? >> on that point, five days ago the justice department initiated its investigation of this. the republicans are running for president would have will to make a decision whether or not they would have asked the doj or fbi to get involved and that was the question to be answered. whether or not them, aspiring presidents works have asked for the department of justice to investigate and nerve her flig to sanchts this happened in late february and bubbled up in way unpredictable driven by social media and not the kind of thing every single person, constituent would do it the same way. >> mitt romney could have stepped up and tried to make a mark. i would call for a justice department investigation. >> the job of a attorney general -- the job of the attorney general, fundamentally different. a republican or democratic attorney general should pay attention to incidents like this, but the truth is that to hold every candidate in every race accountable, i don't know if that makes a lot of sense. >> one of the remarkable things about the case, a murder that occurred last month and it's grown in public awareness and public outrage. it reach as point where we can depolarize the conversation. incumbent upon republican candidates to talk of ta. some eloquently, some less than that. >> make it personal. when the president said, jamal if he had a son it would look like trayvon, a comment about race and it reminded you about something the president and wife said in a "60 minutes" interview in 2007. i wanted to play that and give awe chance to talk about it. here it is. >> sure. >> the realities are the, you know, as black man, you know, barack can get shot going to the gas station. so you know, you can't -- you can't make decisions based on fear, and the possibility of what might happen. we just weren't raised that way. >> jamal? >> well i think -- i brought that up, because, you know, some people were criticizing the president for waiting so long before he said something. there's something clearly in the first family. they identify with this, lived on the south side of chicago. they know the violence that occurs in communities, they know the pressure of being followed, all of those things that happen to black males. when the president came out and said trayvon -- looked, if i had a son he would look like trayvon, it struck a cord in me and a lot of people across the country that this is a real issue, and that we as a country have to deal with how we face up to this and especially at this moment where we've moved past race on so many issues and people are willing to try to find a way to work together. we still have this lingering problem that exists in the country. >> all right. thank you very much, all three of you. appreciate it. the jury's decided the fate of a millionaire charged with a deadly dui. it's official. charged with the murder of 17 afghan civilians. will he face death? 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>> not at all. what i'm surprised by was the defense. the claim was he ran a stop sign. he had double the legal limit. he then, this kid was in the car and he floated to the bottom of the canal. maybe he could have been saved if somebody called 911. so he fled the seen, started drinking, a famous and good lawyer said he was in so much pain he started drinking. guess what? he had a bottle of vicodin in the glove compartment of the bentley. if he was in such pain, why not take the vicodin? instead he went drinking. prosecutor said he was drinking all night and the jury believed the prosecutor. >> facing 30 years in prison. >> i don't think he'll get 30 years but i think he's going to get a tough, high sentence, because -- >> what is tough and high? >> i would say, not 30 years but could be 15. could be 20. >> okay. >> it's going to be a substantial sentence, because he took the stand and he testified, and i think the judge is going to think he perjured himself under oath. the jury didn't believe this testimony. and i think there's an element of disrespect almost given to the victim of this by somebody saying that, by telling such a story that the jury so utterly rejected. >> refuted. >> yes. >> then the adopting the girlfriend. a criminal case. a verdict, a civil case, where a lot of money could be at stake. he was a wealthy man. the reason he adopted the girlfriend to put the money in her name. will that protect the assets in a case like this? >> it's complicated. number one a rumor that the case is secretly settled. a sealed settlement. maybe -- this makes no difference whatsoever. but the claim is that this is money that was in a trust that would have been protected from attachment anyway. when he transferred it to his girlfriend, he wasn't really protecting the money. it was totally protected in when the names of his natural children. so i don't -- that's the press on this. >> the reason for adopting the girlfriend may have been differ. at least money was -- tasteful, understandable. why else adopt your girlfriend? >> oh, the money's involved. what he's doing is she has the ability to control as much as possibility $100 million through the girlfriend. it doesn't mean that the people who were suing can now not get the money, but it does mean he has control over it. he has a motive to adopt a girlfriend. >> tragic story. a student hoop wwho was killed. paul will stay with us. we have another fascinating and strange case. an american woman living in israel. she had in vitro fertilization and it affected her children's citizenship. we're not kidding. told by the u.s. consul in israel if she wanted her babies to have u.s. passports she must prove they have dna from an american. we spoke to her about the story. >> that's baby maya. >> reporter: when she gave birth to her beautiful twins, she couldn't have been happier. months of fertility treatments paid off. but when this woman of chicago living in israel went to the u.s. consulate to get them passports, she was shocked. >> a guy took all my paperwork, asked all the questions and all of a sudden he said, one minute. and i knew that that meant something. i just had a gut -- >> reporter: what followed was a line of questions she says was offensive and humiliating. >> he brings out this woman and she said over the loud speaker, are those your children. i'm like, i don't understand. of course they're my children. you have their birth certificates, and she said, well, where did the sperm come from? whose eggs are they? and i just -- like, my world stopped. >> reporter: answer, of course, was not what the u.s. authorities needed to hear. the vice fertility treatment like many other womens involved egg and sperm donation. passports were denied. as the law stands, there has to be a biological name between parents and children for them to qualify for a passport. citizenship, in other words, follows the dna. problem is, the law hasn't kept up with advances in reproductive technology. and that means children like maya and sierra with an american mother -- but now the family's case is drawing media attention amid growing calls for u.s. law to be changed. it could affect many other families, too. >> it actually makes the parent, is it the biological link or everything else that goes around it? changes to keep up with life and fortunately, unfortunately, this is life today. >> reporter: and as is pointed out, children adopted by americans from abroad already get u.s. citizenship. so why not hers? matthew chance, cnn, tel aviv. paul cowen joins me again. all right. this story in a sense sounds bizarre. this woman has these children. they were in her stomach. she gave birth to them. they are her children. why is this happening? >> it does sound bizarre on the face of it. if you look at the immigration laws of the united states, they're very, very complicated. most people think it's in the u.s. constitution. right? if you're the son of an american citizen, dawe of an american citizen you're an american citizen. i this constitution says that. in fact, the constitution only talks about the fact that you have to be an american citizen to become president. of course, we had the whole birther controversy with president obama. in fact, congress enacts these statutes and they're very complicated, and they haven't kept up with in vitro fertilization. so now you have foreign sperm for an egg implanted in american citizen living in israel, and you know what they're saying? it's not american dna. so it's not an american citizen. well what is american dna? we all come from someplace else. right? >> yes. i'm curious what are the rules for adoption? because adopted children are adopted without american sperm or egg, they come to the united states and they become citizens. right? >> they become citizens, but only citizens after a lengthy period of time. they come over as non-citizens, and if they remain in the country for an extensive period of time, and their parents remain in the united states, they apply to become naturalized american citizens, and they become naturalized american citizen, and this israeli mother, israeli-american mother, dual citizenship, could bring this child to the united states and probably go through that procedure and get naturalized. >> but will the rule change now for in vitro fertilization? >> i think it will. it hasn't kept up with technology. single mothers giving birth under these conditions and it's time for congress to step up to the plate and get with the modern technology. so i think we'll is see changes here. >> let's hope we do. doesn't make sense otherwise in this case. paul cowen, thank you. two years ago today the controversial health care bill known to critics as obama care became the law of the land. on monday. is facing its toughest challenge. before the supreme court a challenge the president embraced. at the heart of the matter is whether it is constitutional to force every person in this country to buy insurance or face penalties if they don't. and health care is a hot ticket p at hot as the new ipad or seeing "hunger games." i'm slightly exaggerated because tickets to watch the oral arguments are in such demand there are a few people waiting in line. i know that's not an ipad line. all right. but it's really rare to have people waiting to go to a supreme court case. the legislation is complicated. there is a lot of rheto

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