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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront March 31, 2012



jackpot, that's the biggest in american history. so many people have things that look like this. this is sour show's. your chances of winning, odds aren't great. 176 million to 1. do you have greater odds of dieing from a bee sting, but i want to get one thing out there right way. this is a rare lottery. usually the expected value of a ticket, of $1 ticket is well below a buck and lotteries are bad bets. the pot's grown so large this time and so many people are playing, that expected value of a ticket based on the $640 million jackpot and about 175 million playing, a little over $3. if you haven't bought a ticket, might as well. a lot of people are imagining what a win could do to their lives. there were lines for tickets in 42 states and the district of columbia's lottery tickets reach $3 million an hour. these are numbers that have never been seen before, and it adds up to more than just a windfall for the lucky winner. in 2010, lottery sales generated nearly $18 billion in profits for state governments. atop among them, new york, florida, texas, california and massachusetts. and what are they doing with all of this money? well, about half of the value of a ticket actually goes to the ultimate winner. about 35% of it goes to the states, and most of that goes to education. since most lotteries in this country began in 1970s, three states put more than $20 billion into education. new york, california and florida. and with the nation's biggest lottery, new york, funding 15% of its school budget last year alone. now, it's important to point out that while many states advertise, i mean really advertise, as part of their logos that the lottery funds education, a lot of states have cut education budgets even as lottery proceeds have risen and funding education isn't always what it seems. today we ran the numbers from florida where all lottery proceeds go to education and about 78% of money goes to college scholarships and school construction bonds. not k-12 and the public schools that do get funds get them only if they're a-rated. so schools in wealthy areas with good test scores get the most money. the director of the lottery, and paul hickey co-founder of research. both out front tonight with two very different and important takes on this. gary, i want to start with you. this is massive. i mean, this is something that probably put a lot of people in a good mood today. just the dream and hope. you know. someone on our staff didn't want me to flash our tickets, because it might give us bad luck. but the president today called lotteries a regressive tax. do you agree with that? >> no, i do not. thank you for having me here, and what we believe is that it's way for people to have some fun at a very low price, and also contribute to good causes. as you so eloquently mentioned, in most states, including texas, all of these millions of dollars spent on the lottery does go to help fund public education. we look at it as a chance for people to dream, as you said. the fun part about playing a lottery, especially a $640 million jackpot, the time when you purchase the ticket to when the balls are drawn. you can dream about what you might do if you're the lucky winner of that enormous prize. >> and i think -- a lot of people have done that. you can see the good in that. i do want to run this by you. a gallup poll says 57% of adults that bought a lottery ticket in the past year, 53% of people who bought them had incomes under $25,000. is this a fair way for states to run money? >> i'm not familiar with that particular study, erin, and we do our own study in texas. depend on the sample you're talking to and on what type of answers people give. it might not surprise you to know that people always aren't real forthcoming with how much they wager on lotteries or other forms of gaming. so you need to take that with a grain of salt. >> paul, let me ask you about crunching the numbers. the odds obviously are very slim. the whole daily beast is a funny article of thing morse likely to happen to you than win the lottery. are there better ways to pick numbers, or should you go with what we appear to do, the quick picks? >> i think there's all sorts of theories on what to do. some say pick higher numbers. most play their birthdays or the day they're born. so there's less odds you'll share the jackpot. certain numbers come up more often than others. 36 is the second most frequent number of the five. of the mega ball, the most frequent number. >> 36. >> for some reason, if you have 36 in the mega ball, that's the best odds. mega ball coming up. >> ooh, we have one. >> that's a key there and 36 regular numbers. all spots. odds are astronomical. i'm a left-handed person. odds of a left-handed dying because it's a right-handed world are one in four million. odds of winning a lottery, fill out 35 million cards if you wanted to play every combination and for the person to process all those, take them years to put all the cards in. it's just astronomical no matter how you look at it. one other thing. t. boone pick up -- pickens had a good thing to say today. jackpot, $640 million accounts for 11 hours of u.s. oil imports. that's how much oil -- >> rain on my parade. all right. but how many tickets would you need to buy to get all the combinations? literally, you could do that, if you could do it, you could end up -- well, i mean, guaranteeing you would win and gaining a huge profit. >> 175 million different combinations. so if you -- could do it and if were you the only winner, then would you make a profit. but the odds are, first you have to worry, what if four other people win? you're suddenly in the hole. second of all, just to play all those cards i don't think the lottery would let you go in and say -- maybe they would. this is a windfall for the states. over 10% of revenue come from lotteries. >> final word to you, gary. what happens if no one wins? my understanding the jackpot could go to almost a billion dollars, right? >> i can't imagine the excitement. it's crazy today. if we don't have a winner tonight we'll get close to that magic b word. that means a billion dollar jackpot. >> that's crazy. all right. thanks to both of you. appreciate it. now, someone who heard the could you be a winner and actually was. to imagine what it's like to win the lottery, but we know with the bee sting -- you're more likely to die from a bee sting, so people aren't likely to experience it. this woman won in 2011 and she's "outfront" to talk about it. good to see you. >> thank you. >> if we get the winner, $112 million and your numbers, it was a night when that happened. what happened at that moment to you? >> it was one of those surreal moments, like wow. it did happen. we were just excited. totally excited. >> i mean, were you screaming? >> oh, yeah, we did the screaming and the jumping up and down, the hitting each other. oh, yeah. >> so then, you know, we've heard a lot of the past few days, a lot of the bad things that comes with lotteries. some people win and a few years later they're destitute, they don't have the money. you though got it right. >> oh, yeah. >> how? >> learning when to stop with the spending. having a really good financial planner behind you. and listening to them. so i -- i'm fortunate that i have some really good people who advice me in terms of my funds and it helps. it really helps. it also helps to educate yourself with regard to money. >> what was the hardest thing, spend spend spend, what was the thing when you've realized i have gone too far or i don't have a sense of what this money means and i could get out of control? >> well, i think when it gets to a point where you're spending just without even thinking about it and not thinking about the future, that's when you need to really just kind of put the brakes on. >> you have given a lot of money away. >> yes, i have. >> is that the part that's made you actually feel the best, that power to give? >> it does. because i'm a believer that you give and you receive it back. so this is something i have lived with all my life. i believe in that the power of good is doing good for others. it will return to you. >> all right. well, thank you very much. appreciate it. just sitting next to someone who's won $112 million in a lottery. that's also really low. i'll take that as my win tonight. ahead, the lawyer of the soldier who killed 17 civilians, we have one person who talked to someone in the village that night. and a man dead has ties to british spies and communist officials and this is true. talking about dreams tonight so we have a flying car. 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[ male announcer ] the citi simplicity card. no late fees. no penalty rate. no worries. john henry browne, the defense lawyer for staff sergeant bales, came out swinging today. saying that military prosecutors are not cooperating in the case of the shooting deaths of 17 civilians in afghanistan. in a very strongly worded press release and press conference browne said they have not been given accesses to witnesses of the shootings. >> that's what's really, really frustrating. our staff on the ground is really upset with this promise they made to us which we normally trust these promises and we have to trust these promises, and we've been misled greatly, and these witnesses are now, who knows where, and people just disappear into the countryside in afghanistan. >> browne also said the military has requested a mental health board to evaluate staff sergeant bales. that would take place in next couple months. a short while ago we talked to one of the few foreign journalist whose visited with the witnesses and the victims that night and got their version and spoke to the guards who interacted with staff sergeant bales. a correspondent with sps-australia is in afghanistan and i asked how hard it was to actually gain access to these witnesses. >> well, just a few moments ago i spoke to president hamid karzai offices. about the claims that the attorney has made. they strongly rejected the claims and say they have no knowledge of any arriving to kandahar to speak with the witnesses. if that's the case, he's more than welcome to come and speak with the witnesses and the families of the actual victims. but from someone who has actually been to the villages and spoken to the wounded, these people are desperate to get their story out. they want justice to be served. so i don't think that they're actually afraid of coming out and speaking about what's actually happened to them. they have heartfelt stories. the majority of people i spoke to were children. it's always difficult to assess whether a child witness is giving the account they actually saw or whether they're traumatized. i felt their accounts were heartfelt and desperate for their story to come out. >> what did they tell you? what were some of the specifics of what they told you happened that night? >> there were some horrific accounts. one woman told me her husband was shot in the head and she dragged him into his house and had his brain in her hands. deeply dramatic stories they were telling me. also she told me there were 15 to 20 americans standing in her yard ushering her to get back inside her house. these are difficult, very intense claims she's making. that don't really match up to the other claims that some of the children told me. they told me one american entered the home and one american shot their family members. a lot of disparities in the stories. it's difficult to know who, what -- who saw what or when. >> i know had you a chance to speak with some of those afghan guards at base. i'm curious what they told you. at this point u.s. officials told cnn they are alleging that sergeant bales left the base, killed some people, returned to the base, told some people that he had killed afghans and then went back out. are you hearing at all anything about what he might have said when he went back to the base in between the alleged shooting rampages? >> no. because i only had access to the afghan guards. i didn't hear what he actually said to his roommates. the guards didn't say they saw him leave the base, but they saw him come back to the base at 1:30 a.m. in the base another hour. another guard saw him leave the base at 2:30 a.m. both times apparently the american forces have been informed that one of their soldiers had come into the base and an hour later had been informed again someone had left the base. and by the time they pulled a search party together and decided to go out looking for him, around 4:00, one of the afghan guards noticed the american soldier coming back towards the base, at which point they informed the forces and they went out and collected the man and they told the afghan guards not to shoot. that this was the soldier they were looking for. but exactly what he said when he came back to the base is unclear as far as i'm concerned. >> and from talking to those guards, did they have any information to you as to how sergeant bales behaved? was he distraught? acting normally? was there blood on him or gunshot residue, were you able to get any thoughts on that? >> i asked a lot about that. they told me that -- the first guy told me when he arrived at the base at 1:30 in the morning he had his weapons with him and was trying to rush into the base. the afghan guard apparently cocked up his gun and said to him, where are you going and where have you been? he responded to him in the local dialect of pashtun and said hello and he rushed into the base. the guards who saw him leave at 2:30, again says he rushed out, and said hello and, but continued to walk out. then when he returned at 4:00 in the morning, he apparently walked up to the forces, u.s. forces who were waiting for him at the front of the base, put down his weapons, put his hands up and handed himself over. he was then completely strip searched, apparently, and brought into the base in his underwear. that's what the afghan guards claim. >> all right. thank you very much. some truly amazing reporting there from afghanistan on sergeant bales. thanks again. and now a dramatic story. this story is -- i'm obsessed with this story. like a real-life spy novel and it's happening in china. more details coming out about the mysterious death of a businessman with links to britain's spy agency and to powerful chinese politicians. now, the u.k. government is asking china to reopen the investigation into how neil haywood died last year. they said it was alcohol. now apparently it could be poison. they're asking this, because this relationship with the disgraced chinese communist party official has come to light. an official whose situation has had something, there could be a coup in china. the drama is throwing chinese politics into turmoil, captivated the country and shown a spotlight on the city of chongquing. here's stan graham. >> reporter: the streets of chongquing? southwestern china. more than 30 billion people and a story shrouded with mystery. we're following this tale of intrigue, betrayal and suspicions of foul play that has now spread as far as britain and drawn in the u.k.'s spy agency mi-6. first stop for us, the british consulate. >> hello? >> yes. hello. i was wanting to know if the consular official was in at the moment? >> reporter: perhaps here some answers about what happened to neal haywood, helping broker deals, found in a chongquing hotel room last november. the british media reports chinese officials told the british embassy he drank himself to death. the same officials said his body was cremated without an autopsy. now haywood's death is being linked to the sacking of a rising star of the communist party. britain wants china to investigate. >> just come out of discussion with the consular officials behind those doors who say because there is an investigation now pending, they're very much bound by confidentiality and there's simply no more they can say. >> british companies network and do deals. it's the chongquing british chamber of congress monthly drinks. tonight the talk is not just about money lost and won but the death of neal haywood. >> do you think anyone really thinks they know the truth? >> i think everybody thinks they know the truth. >> truth is behind the truth. >> yes. >> there are so many whispers about him, he was well connected in china. married here and did business here for years and a company set up in china formed by former members in mi-6, the british spy agency and also came into contact with the former communist party chief, and that placed neal hayward at political drama that absolutely captivated china. only now is it emerging hayward and the family was linked. no one we talked to here said they knew him, but they heard the rumors. >> they said that -- the guy was drunk. bu the guy never drank alcohol. never touched alcohol. so -- and i think the guy's wife was -- was still -- >> reporter: he was sacked as the party chief after his hand-picked police chief sought refuge in a u.s. consulate fearing for safety. and reports of diplomatic sources now say the cops split, after raising suspicions with his boss that hayward had been poisoned. li fashioned himself as a greater than red communist hard man the son of a party hero adopting revolutionary songs and slogans, crack down on criminal gangs and corruption and made enemies. a source close told cnn the family rejects all the allegations against him. they say one day they hope to be free to tell their side of the story. right now, with neal hayward dead and li banished and out of sight, whatever truth there is remains hidden in the mist and haze of chongquing. stan grant, cnn, chongquing. "outfront" next, new developments in the trayvon martin case. and investigators talk to one of osama bin laden's wives who says she was helping the al qaeda leader while he was on the run. 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