>> and that's a knockdown for manny pacquiao. >> he's the last person anybody would ever want to go up against. look who's getting in the ring with him. i've done some crazy things in my time. this may just be the craziest. trust me, you've got to see it to believe it. morgan versus pacquiao. >> sorry. that was an accident. >> knockout, piers morgan tonight. good evening. i'm at the famous wild card boxing gym in hollywood with a man that many people consider to be the greatest boxer that's ever lived. tomorrow night he fights at the mgm grand in las vegas in an hbo pay per view battle against a man he's fought twice before. it strikes me this one is not just business, it's personal. and the man is manny pacquiao. manny, thank you for inviting me to your gym. it's a great story for you, this gym, because ten years ago you walked in that door and freddie roach is here, it's his gym. he's arguably the greatest trainer that boxing has ever seen. >> yeah. >> and your career is not going very well and you're needing a break. you need someone to spot your talent. what happens when you come that day? >> when i came here in wild card, just came here for just vacation and looking for a boxing gym for a workout, and i met freddie roach here in wild card and we do -- we do mitts a couple rounds and i like the way he train. he instruct me about the strategy and he like also my style. >> he said that after one round, he walked away and he said to a friend who was here, this boy can hit. so he knew immediately that you had an amazing punch. and he could see you could be somebody special. but i don't think either of you could ever have imagined that here we are a decade later and you've won world titles in eight different weights, which has never been done before. can you believe what's happened to you in your career? >> i never expect what i have done in boxing. you know, it's -- it's amazing, unbelievable. you know, i think it's -- i'm just lucky and blessed by god. i always praise god and give thanks. >> in the philippines, you are almost like a god there. the whole country comes to a stop when you fight. they say there's no crime in the philippines when manny pacquiao fights. there's no cars on the road. everyone stops. you represent your country. is that huge pressure or is it just a great honor for you? how do you feel? >> it's -- there's a pressure because millions of filipinos, they're hoping for victory in every fight. and i don't want to disappoint them, so i have to train hard and make sure that i'm 100% conditioned to win the fight. and it's a pressure, but -- there's a pressure, but if you train hard and believe god, i think nothing is impossible. >> how do you feel when people say you're the best fighter who's ever been? >> how i feel? of course i feel happy and people believing my talent, my capability in boxing, but i never -- you know, i don't want to think about what i have done in boxing. i want to stay my feet on the ground, be friendly to everybody. >> when you grew up, there was, as for many people in the philippines, no money. it was a tough upbringing for you. your father abandoned you. it's a well-known story. you were brought up by your mother and your siblings. your mother seems a very strong woman in your life. tell me about her. >> she is, she's very strong. she teach us how to believe god, to work hard, how to, you know, but -- she teach everything, about what is life, how to live fair and you don't hit people. >> it's a nice thing to teach you, not to hate people, but when you get in the ring as must most brutal boxers we've ever seen, how do you deal with that? how do you manage to kill people with your hands but not hate them? >> i think this is part of boxing is hitting, but what i mean is, you know, i'm always praying that nobody get hitter. what i mean is hurt like a bad hurt. boxing is hitting, but i'm always praying that even my opponent, i pray for him for a good fight and we can entertain people and people will be happy. >> when you were 14, 15, you took part in sort of street fights in the philippines, and people used to get killed. i mean they would die. you had a friend of yours who died in one of those fights. what are your memories of that time? what did you hope to achieve when you were doing those fights? >> yes. my close friend before and in boxing, he died in the ring while he was fighting. all my -- all my teammates, they retired after that when my close friend died. but i'm the one who pursued to continue my boxing career. >> did you nearly give up then? did you think about giving up then? >> no, no. i told him i will continue your fight in boxing and i will do everything i can give and make people happy. >> when you get in the ring for a fight like you are tomorrow, as you walk in, how do you really feel? >> i'm excited and, you know, i've been training eight weeks for this fight, so i believe god and i know god is always guiding me. >> freddie roach tells me you never cut your hair before a fight, you're like sampson. you believe if you cut your hair, you'll lose your power. is that right? >> well, i mean, you know, it's my experience to fight -- if i have short hair, i feel weak. but i do try -- my experience to fight long hair, i feel strong and can -- you know, can punch a bigger guy. >> you've been involved in politics in the philippines and people are expecting you to run for governor in 2013 and potentially to run as the president of the philippines in ten years time. how realistic is this for you? >> being a public servant, this is a serious job, not like boxing or entertaining people, but this politics is a serious, you know, yoe -- you are taking care of problems of those people who are needing your help. and i'm sure to serve them honestly and to help them. >> politics in the philippines is corrupt and people know that. would you like to be in a position of power to change that, to make it a more honest politics? >> that's what i'm trying to do to change the politics in the philippines, you know. that's right, there's a lot of corrupt politicians, so i want to show them that i'm the good example to, you know, serve honestly. >> how important is money to you? because you made millions and millions of dollars fighting. you're one of the most highly prized sportsmen in the world now in terms of your ability to sell tickets. does it motivate you, money? >> making money -- i'm happy because, of course, every fight i make millions of dollars, but after the fight, you know, i'm sharing to the people, poor people that live in the philippines, giving charity for them. >> the big question everyone asks you in every interview at the moment is will you ever fight floyd mayweather. what do you honestly think? >> i never -- you know, right now i'm not thinking about that. >> would you like to? >> like what i said, i'm -- you know, i always fight whatever my promoter give to me, so i'm willing to fight anywhere, any time. >> do you think you'd beat him? >> it's hard to say. of course he's a boxer and i'm a boxer also and we train hard . hard to say right now. >> there's only one guy that's ever won eight world titles in eight different weights, and that's you, not him. >> that's only me. >> it's only you. >> but i'm not -- i'm not comparing -- competing aring my record to anybody. you know, i'm happy that i'm one of them giving excitement and exciting fight to the fans of boxing. >> i'm going to bring in somebody after the break who you know very well. it's your trainer, freddie roach, the man that you stood in here with ten years ago. and get him talking about you. and you talking about him, because he's a pretty amazing character too. >> yeah, he's a nice guy. >> not completely. look, every [ male announcer ] it's true... consumers er wanchai ferry orange chicken... over p.f. chang's home menu orange chicken women men and uh pandas... elbows mmm [ male announcer ] wanchai ferry, try it yourself. yeah, it does seven great things like giving me a healthy scalp and great looking hair. you should make that eight things. dude, why don't you just use the stuff? 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[ male announcer ] get the venture card at capitalone.com and earn double miles on every purchase every day. what's in your wallet? i was gonna say that. uh huh... i have my special guest, manny pacquiao, and his trainer, freddie roach. freddie, this is your lair. as manny is are you puted to be the best boxer to walk the earth, you are said to be the best trainer. what brought you two together, fate? >> i believe so. you know, he walked in my gym one day. he was a former world champion at 112 pounds, this little guy, and his manager asked me if i worked the mitts with him. he said i hear you're pretty good with the mitts. so manny got in there the first round and it was like we knew each other for a long time. we didn't miss a beat on the mitts. it was just really, really a great session the first round. i walked back to my guy and said, wow, this kid can fight, a one-puncher. manny said to the manager, we have a new trainer. >> he seems such a nice guy. he says you're such a nice guy. but you can't both be that nice because you've become the most successful duo in boxing. so there's got to be a mean streak to both of you. >> i'd say we have mean streaks in us. i think we have a killer instinct. i think a good fighter has to have that. when he hurt somebody, you need to get them out of there. and i'm sure we both have that inside us. >> it's manny's eyes that are slightly intimidating. everything else about you is fine, but the eyes, when you laser in on people, as you've done with me over a couple of tricky questions, i'm like, whoa, okay. you can tell by a man's eyes. can you tell by a fighter's eyes? >> yes, you can. you can see manny pacquiao, when he's in attack mode, he's like a shark. he's like perfect focus. he sees everything coming at him and everything going out. and it's one of the most important weapons people don't really realize, they think it's foot and hands but it's his vision that's the best part about manny pacquiao that makes him so accurate, and a great puncher. accuracy and timing, he's perfect at it at this point. >> when you look around this gym, freddie, it's like a piece of boxing history. so many great fighters have been in here. you've worked with most of the greats in the last 30 years. what makes manny special to you? he's like a son to me. you know, he was a young man when he first came to me. he came to me for advice at times back then and he's grown into a young man and now he makes his own decisions and we don't have those discussions that we once had. i miss that a little bit, but, again, he's grown up and he'll make his own decisions. you know, this gym is just like -- there is a lot of history here. i have an offer to open on sundays for people to come look at the gym and be a tourist attraction. >> how many filipinos come and see him? >> i get at least about 30 a day that come through -- >> every day in los angeles? >> yes. they come from everywhere. from the philippines to san francisco. >> and you've been to the philippines with manny. is it as crazy as it sounds when he goes back? >> yes. i mean it's -- it's so crazy and they give me so much respect and credit, that i can't go to the mall anymore either. >> manny, what are the values that are important to you in life? freddie was saying there that you used to ask him for advice and then you became a man yourself. what are the most important things to you, apart from god and your worship of god, what are the other things that you think are important in life? >> important in life if you know how to love people and to be friendly to everybody and always put love in your heart. >> you're married with four children, i think, now. how does your wife feel when you fight, honestly? >> before -- right now she's very confident that every fight that i'm going to win that. >> that's because you haven't lost for a while, right? this guy, marquez, that you're fighting tomorrow, it is personal between you, isn't it, because two very close fights, he's always given you a good fight, but he has actually gone to the philippines and worn t-shirts that say i beat manny pacquiao twice. that's got to hurt you, right? >> it's hurt me but, you know, people don't believe him. but, you know, we're filipino and filipinos respect our visitors. but this time that's why i'm very motivated to train hard. >> you really want to beat him, don't you, more than most fights? >> yeah, to focus to make sure the other person is conditioned. i want to end all doubt and i want, of course, i want to prove that he's wrong. >> freddie, let me ask you about the big mayweather question. you've seen, as i say, almost every great fighter since i've been around. would he beat floyd mayweather? >> yeah, i look at it sometimes and i say the average is 15 punches a round, manny averages 85 a round. can the 85 lose to the 15? i don't think so. manny's accuracy and south paw style will give mayweather a fit, i feel. >> and it's the trump card with manny that he's developed now almost equal power both hands. >> yes. it took us about eight years to get to where manny hasn't lost a round and he's fought perfect fights since the david diaz fight. it took eight years of hard work, dedication and just competitive workout. i mean i was satisfied with his big left hand at one time, but then when we lost to morales, i said, well, i've got to make him a better fighter, it's my skbraub job to make him a better fighter. i said i'm not going to be happy until his right hand is equal with the left. >> there will be women watching this interview. they say why boxing, why do men want to do this to each other. >> it's not only for myself but, you know, i keep fighting because i want -- i'm happy giving honor to my country. i'm happy giving a good fight and i'm happy to entertain people, to make them happy. >> when you goes out tomorrow, freddie, what do you say to him before a big fight when you're both in the dressing room minutes before, what do you say to a guy like manny who's won everything? >> you know, we warm up a little bit an go through the routines. when you make this move, you know what move he's going to make. so we know our opponent very well. we study him, we study tapes, we figure out his habits. so we try to take advantage of them. but just right before the fight, i say stay focused. he's right there. >> do you pray before a fight? >> always. >> do you sing? you love singing, right? >> after the fight. >> so you pray before and you sing after. >> after. >> we'll going to another break. i'm going to bring in somebody who is equally important really in this whole machinery. he's one of the great promoters in boxing history, and he'll have a fascinating take on you, manny, because he put on muhammed ali's fights for years, so i want to see what he thinks of where you rank in the history of boxers. capital one's new cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus! so you earn 50% more cash. according to research, everybody likes more cash. well, almost everybody... ♪ would you like 50% more cash? 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