right now. >> good morning, welcome, everybody. our "stastarting point this mor is day four of the jerry sandusky sex abuse trial with three victims set to take the stand. the prosecution is moving at a rapid pays. the state is expected to rest tomorrow. cnn susan candiotti is live at the courthouse in bellafonte, pennsylvania this morning. >> good morning. three more alleged victims are expected to take the stand today and tomorrow before prosecutors wrap up their case. among them, we expect to hear from one youngster, back in 1988, her mother went to police after she discovered her boy had been showering with jerry sandusky. charges were never filed in this case, but the mother said the little boy was naked, jerry sandusky had bear hugged him and she was worried he might have touched some of his private areas. charges never filed in this case, however, police did eavesdrop on jerry sandusky and they said he told them this, quote, i understand i was wrong. i wish i could get forgiveness. i know i won't get it from you. i wish i were dead. that's what he said to the mother, according to police. authorities told him not to take any more showers with any boys and sandusky said he wouldn't. but, soledad, as we heard from this testimony in this trial, he sure kept on doing it, it appear appears. >> some of this testimony has been so graphic and just so heartbreaking to see these -- to hear the testimony of these now young men crying on the stand. how are they coming across to the injure rye? >> reporter: i think in a very credible way. all the jurors are almost literally on the edge of their seat. they're paying very strict attention to them. in one in particular they heard from was alleged victim number 5. this is a young man unlike other second mile people we heard from, did not come from a broken home. as he broke down and testified, talking about how jerry sandusky had allegedly showered him with gifts to football games and allegedly exposed himself in a shower and said sandusky had asemi-automat saulted him sexually in a shower and the parents were listening in the courtroom and they, too, were crying. >> i can imagine, sounds so awful. susan candiotti updating us on that trial. we appreciate it. in a couple minutes, i'll be speaking with a young man named thomas day, a penn state graduate who attend and worked with jerry sandusky's second mile foundation and i'll talk to him about this trial he's watching very closely. first to christine romans with top stories. good morning. >> good morning. breaking news this morning in the scandal over lance armstrong and new doping allegations. ironman organizers confirm armstrong is now banned from the niece armstrong competition supposed to compete there june 24th. armstrong firing back after the organization charged him with doping saying these charges are baseless, motivated by spite and testimony bought and paid for by promises of immunity and although the usada alleges a wide ranging conspiracy over 16 years i am the only athlete it has chaesen to charge. i have never doped and unlike many of my accusers, i have competed as endurance athlete for 25 years with no spike in performance, passed over 500 drug tests and never failed one. the wildfire swelling to more than 7,000 acres in colorado, more than 1,000 personnel working nonstop in 24 hour shifts to slow this fire down. more than 1,000 pre-evacuation alerts issued to people living on the west side of that fire, a warning to get readily to leave quickly if need be. more ravage in syria, a car bombing near a shiite shrine in damascus as a russian official telling cnn the russian government is not sending new helicopt helicopters to syria. secretary of state hillary clinton came down hard on russia this week accusing them of se sending combat helicopters to a damascus although they did not talk specifically about the helicopters clinton was referring to. 73% of syria's major russian imports can be tracked back to russians and belarus the other major trading partner. talking to the former u.s. ambassador to iraq, john neg go upon tai and what the u.s. should do about it. president obama and mitt romney making a critical stop in the swing state today. the president in cleveland to deliver an afternoon speech on the economy. 250 miles away in cincinnati, romney will take the stage at the same time, to make his pitch on how to fix the economy. history made by the bay last night. san francisco giants pitcher, matt cain, tossing a rare perfect game, only the 22nd time it happened in baseball and first time ever for a member of the giants. here's the final out. >> on the ground, areaiairias, deep third, got him! that's a perfect game. >> he struck out a career high against the houston astros. hear the sound? >> the crowd goes wild. >> the crowd goes wild. >> thank you. we'll return to our top story in about two hours. the fourth day of testimony will begin in jerry sandusky's sex abuse trial. so far, the jury has heard from five of the 10 alleged victims in the case. 2nd met them all through t the -- sandusky met them all through the second mile charity, bring them to football games, overnight trips with them and let them spend time with his family. thomas attended second mile as a kid and mentor later and closely following the trial. joining us from chicago. mice to see y mice -- nice to see you. thanks for joining us. you've been following it, because i know you hoped what you heard in the trial prove untrue all the allegations. what do you think of what you've heard so far in testimony? >> i don't look at this as something i wish that would be undercut the prosecution. i hope very much they're able to secure prosecution. i hope that, you know, all these witnesses who have come forward are credible and just based off of the reports i've been reading on the first three days of the trial, seems like we're well on our way to a conviction. i'm very happy about that. i hope, once we've locked this guy away for good, we can then move onto the university administers who thought it was more appropriate to quote be humane to jerry than protect children. we can lock them away, too, and then we can go on and rebuild penn state and the community i grew up in. >> you're a penn state graduate and come from a long line of folks who graduated from penn state. do you think most people part of the penn state family would agree with you? >> absolutely. absolutely. when i initially heard about these allegation, there was a report a year and half ago they were investigating sandusky. i didn't want to believe it. i knew it was two-year grand jury investigation. i suspected that they would not have gone to these lengths to investigate him if there were not some truth to that matter, to this investigation. >> when you -- i'm sorry for interrupting you, i was going to ask you -- >> no no. >> when you heard the testimony yesterday of victim 5 and 7 and 10, as they're called in the trial on the stand, they've been very consistent in what they say and their level of details, starting with the hand on the knee, sort of progressing to showering together and then literally crossing the line to a sexual assault, if you believe their testimony. what was the perception of jerry sandusky? were there rumors about jerry sandusky? he clearly was spending so much of his time one-on-one with young boys. janitors knew something was up, had been witness is in some way. what was the rumor mill or was there one about jerry sandusky on campus and off-campus? >> i had never heard of anything like that. penn state university, of course, is a very big university. the second mile community was a very big community. that's kind of the point. it served about 1,000 kids around pennsylvania. i was one of several hundred mentors. frankly, my experience with the second mile was a very good one. i was very proud of my volunteer work with the second mile. i understand the name the second mile is, you know, obviously permanently destroyed, but again, we're talking about a very large community. i had never heard any rumors about coach sandusky. of course, if i had heard anything, i would have notified appropriate authorities. i had never heard anything. >> what kind of relationship did you have with him? interesting, i was reading about your time in the charity, you haddad very involved in your life. i know for a lot of the young men who are the victims coming forward in this particular case, they differed from you in that way. not necessarily intact families, maybe more opportunity for someone who is a potential child molester. tell me about your interactions with jerry sandusky? >> i didn't really have a lot of interaction with coach sandusky. i met him a half-dozen times and never alone with him. it was a big organization. most of my work with the second mile was what was called the second mile friend fitness program, a lot like big brother-big sister, except we took kids and worked out with them a couple days a week. i really didn't have a lot of interaction with coach sandusky. i never sensed there was a problem. i don't want to overstate my relationship with sandusky. >> last question, mike mccreery on the stand the other day, before he took the stand, he had been heckled and death threats in the past, what did you think of his testimony? >> i'm glad you asked that. coach mcqueary, as far as i can tell, did nothing wrong. i think that's tremendously important to recognize. this man has been, if not public enemy number one, maybe public enemy number two with this case. he followed the legal proceedings when he obviously witnessed what he witnessed. he notified gary schultz, he has the third guy indicted. there's sandusky, the athletic director and this other guy, gary schultz, who is top of the chain of command at the university police. he went to the police. he made very clear to the university administrators what he saw. he couldn't have made a citizen's arrest. he ended association with sandusky. this guy deserves our praise and our understanding. he certainly does not -- he's certainly not a villain in the story. i hope -- i know he's suing the university, probably understandably so, i hope, in time, that, you know, us as penn staters, can welcome coach mcqueary back in the family. i know he loves penn state. >> thomas, a former member of the second mile foundation and penn state grad. thank you for your insight. still ahead on "starting point," mayors across the country gathering in orlando, florida. they have a message for congress, stop fighting, get to work. we'll talk to los angeles mayor who will join us next, right there. also, how much would it take -- how much would you pay to have someone take the burden of naming your baby off your plate? we'll tell you about how groupon is willing to take $1,000 of your money to name your baby. our get real this morning. here's our plain list. love you, girl, you're watching "starting point." on my journey across america, i found new ways to tell people about saving money. this is bobby. say hello bobby. hello bobby. do you know you could save hundreds on car insurance over the phone, online or at your local geico office? tell us bobby, what would you do with all those savings? hire a better ventriloquist. your lips are moving. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. there it is ! there it is ! where ? where ? it's getting away ! where is it ? it's gone. we'll find it. any day can be an adventure. that's why we got a subaru. love wherever the road takes you. wow, there it is. figure nearly 200 of the country's mayors are getting together in florida. they have different political backgrounds but have a message for washington. quit the partisan bickering and get to work. the mayor of los angeles is also the president of the u.s. conference of mayors joins us this morning. thanks for joining us. appreciate that. the conversation yesterday was about partisan gridlock in congress. of course, it is an election year and the stakes are very high. i would imagine the pressure on both sides is very high. how do you fix realistically that gridlock? >> i think you have to get democrats and republicans who want to work together and understand job number one is job creation, when the economy is where it is today, we have to work together on both sides of the aisle to get things done and put people back to work. here's an example, mayors across the country, democrat and republican have called on congress to pass the surface transportation bill, that's 2 million jobs we can put people back to work repairing our roads, highways, ports, airports and what's happened? absolutely nothing. when the president says that we can save 325,000 teacher, firefighter and police officer jobs, what's happened with that proposal? mr. romney and the house leadership have said no to that. all we've seen from them is cut cut cut, no investment. i think that's what this election is going to be about, not only about where the unemployment rate is, what we will do about in the future to make america's economy is strong again from the middle class up. >> you mentioned what governor romney said. i want to play a little chunk from friday where he talked about really the lessons from wisconsin and targeting what president obama had said about the private sector doing fine. let me play a little chunk of that and i'll ask you a question on the other side. >> he wants to hire more government workers, says we need more fireamen, more policemen, more teachers. did he not get the message from wisconsin? the american people did. time to cut back on government and help the american people. >> what do you make of the governor's remarks when he says, it's time to cut back on government and he listed firemen and teachers? >> the jobs the president is talking about is saving jobs, not adding jobs, one. two, there's no question we have to cut programs and cut the deficit. the president proposed a 4 trillion dollar cut over the next ten years. mr. romney talks about cutting the deficit and also proposes a $5 trillion tax cut for primar primarily targeted to the wealthy that we can't afford. what democrats and republican mayors are saying is we have to do both. we have to cut some spending, no question about it. we have to make investments in infrastructure, transportation, in education. in helping us export when 95% of the new markets are outside the united states of america. we have to do things across the aisle, do things to make investments, but also make the cuts that we need. >> both the president and mitt romney are in the state of ohio campaigning. there is a new poll out bad news for both. washingt "washington post" poll talking about favorable numbers of the economic policy, president obama at 38% and mitt romney at 35%. you look at the margin of error, very close. you look at their unfavorable numbers, president obama 54% among independents and mitt romney at 47%. so terrible numbers for both of them on something that everybody has said is the most important issue in this election, which is the economy. what should they be doing? what should they be talking about? >> well, i think both candidates have to talk about the economy, not just what's gone wrong but also what we're going to do in the future. i think the president has done that. he said, again and again, that he's willing to cut spending, but we also got to make investments. we can't continue to extend the bush tax cuts and not make investments in education and transportation in the infrastructure. we have to do both. i think the president has tried to extend the hand to the republicans. but the house leadership has refused again and again and again. in the senate, as you recall, senator mcconnell said his number one job is to defeat the president instead of putting the country back to work. >> thanks for being with us. i think you guys have one more days of meetings today and we will find out how that goes as well. appreciate your time. >> thank you. two more days. >> two more days. >> still ahead on "starting point" this morning. if you are struggling to name your baby, that is such a hard thing to do, you could pay gr p groupon to do it. but it ain't cheap in our "get real." here's margaret's playlist, vampire weekend. i cannot say i've ever heard that before. >> a good sign. >> i like it, i like it. >> are you serious? 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