>> although the perpetrator of this evil act has received a lot of attention over the last couple of days, that attention will fade away. and in the end, after he has felt the full force of our justice system, what will be remembered are the good people who are impacted by this tragedy. >> we're exploring this tragedy in depth this morning. we'll hear from survivors of the shooting and also going to hear from the mayor of aurora, a clinical psychologist, and former fbi agent and speak exclusively with a man who was a camp counselor with holmes. we begin with an interview with two young women, micayla hicks and lori shaffer, next to where the gunman open fire, a bullet passed through the wall and struck micayla right in the chin. lori was sitting next to micayla. >> how does your chin feel? >> it hurts pretty bad in my gums, bottom gums got pushed back by the bullet and one oth was knocked out and luckily caught it in my hand. the tooth next to the bottom front got moved around and that's moesstly my pain because tgs so much pressure pushed on it. >> where did it end up? >> it's currently still in my chin on this side. >> what have doctors told you about your prognosis will they take the frag meant out? >> no, if he said if they would take it out it would damage too many nerves, keep it in, if it causes trouble later in my life to see a plastic surgeon. >> many people about where the movie was the scene in the movie was so chaotic and dramatic, at first people didn't realize there was a shooting. when did you first realize it? >> mckayla says when the first gunshot happened, she remembers me saying what just happened. i don't recall saying that but i think it was once i realized how hurt scherr and we were running around trying to figure out where to go and what to do. when i really connected everything was when we went outside the back exit and saw the other people from theater nine running out and screaming and injured. >> you pulled the fire alarm? >> yes. >> how long before authorities came to start helping you? >> probably like maybe a minute. i don't know. i have no judgment of time from that night though so -- but it wasn't long at all. >> this morning in four and a half hours, the alleged gunman in the jail over there will head to the courtroom which is right next door. many of the people who have been traumatized, whether victims or just in the community really and even people not here want to understand why, is this something you're eager to understand? >> yeah. i mean, they say this guy was a genius and they say that his apartment was completely on his own. he obviously had some brains, but it's just real devastating that you know, god gives someone so much talent that they just put it to horrible use and ruin people's lives and cause so much harm to people and hurt them so bad. >> how is the community doing? there were several vigils i saw last night and there have been smaller ones over the last couple of days. have those vigils been helpful? >> i think so. there's been so many things said just trying to help people and everyone is just really understanding about everything right now so just realizing how supportive people are and how everyone is really coming together helps a lot. >> it does. that's good to know. you both seem very calm to me and almost a little too calm. i'm wondering if there's going to be a point where it hits you hard. you have a bullet in your chin. >> yeah. >> in your face and doctors have said they don't want to ever take it out. how are you holding up? >> just grateful it didn't hit anywhere else. i mean, i've heard stories of people getting hit in the head and arm and leg and i picture myself in their shoes going through my circumstances if i were to get hit in the arm, my sports career would be done. leg, same thing. anywhere else, i'm grateful it didn't shatter my jaw or go to my throat. just very grateful and my heart goes out to those that were seriously wounded or even anyone affected by this because it hurt so many people. >> i'll give you the last word this morning. anything you want to say to all of the folks, not just here in aurora but across the country watching the story and all of our hearts have been broken by this tragedy. >> like so many people even people that don't know us or anything keep asking like what they did do to help. and like right now prayers are all people can do. there's nothing physical anyone can do obviously. so i think just the prayers are really helping and just that comfort knowing that people are there supporting everybody and trying to help us as best as they can. >> you're both high school students, right? >> yeah, i'm entering my senior year. >> i just graduated. >> thanks for talking with us this morning. it's obviously very early here. we appreciate your time. will you watch what happens this morning carefully and closely? >> yeah, i'm sure. >> we should mention to folks, if you want to help the victims, go to givingfirst.org. they are collecting lots of money for the colorado shooting victims. and that's a great way to help out if you're not here locally or even if you are here locally. for the rest of the top stories we'll check in with christine romans, good morning. >> good morning, soledad. immigration officials can be called to the scene of a deadly accident in southeastern texas. 11 people were killed, 12 others injured when a pickup truck veered off u.s. highway 59 and slammed into two large trees last night. it was a one vehicle accident and police say all of the 23 victims were loaded inside the ford truck's cab and bed. they suspect people smuggling. penn state paying the price for the jerry sandusky sex abuse scandal. in less than two hours, the ncaa will unveil what are set to be unprecedented sanctions against the football program. they include fines in excess of $30 million and the loss of scholarships and a ban from postseason bowl games. this comes a day after the school removed the iconic statue of football coach joe paterno from outside beaver stadium. just ahead a live report on what to expect when the ncaa announces the sanctions less than two hours from now. the arab league making syrian president assad an offer they hope he can't refuse. they'll offer a safe exit for assad and his family if he steps down quickly and leaves syria. arab league foreign ministers are also calling on opposition rebels to form a national transition government but the violent clashes just escalates. jury selection set to begin this morning in the murder trial of drew peterson. the former illinois police sergeant facing murder charges for the 2004 bathtub drowning of his third wife, kathleen savio, also a a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife but not charged with her death. may cause as many as 2500 cancer cases worldwide and 1300 cancer deaths, according to a study by scientists at stanford. gentlem investigating reports that workers at the damaged plant were told to put lead covers over their radiationdetector devices to hide the severity of the radiation release. the mother of michael jackson and guardian of his children is staying with a family member in arizona to destress. her nephew reported her missing on saturday, concern mounted when michael jackson's 14-year-old daughter paris tweeted that she hadn't seen her grandmother in a week and wanted her to come home. new video overnight, members of the denver broncos visiting with shooting victims and emergency staff who treated the massacre victims, doing their part to raise everyone's spirits. broncos quarterback peyton manning, a new member to the community wasn't there but called several of those patients. soledad? >> all right, christine, thank you. as stories from witnesses and victims of the aurora movie theater shooting emerge, i had a chance to sit down with one of the survivors from her hospital bed, she was telling me what happened to her. she was shot with the gunman began firing, she was in the theater next to the gunman's theater where he was. some of the bullets went through the walls. she served time in iraq and said no one could be prepared for the heart or horror in the theater. >> it was a lot of screaming and the best way i compare it to is a war zone, except in this war zone, only one side had the gun. >> blache's friend was in the theater with her, he was shot in the head and did not survive. he was celebrating his 27th birthday. >> sully was literally -- i was laying like this and turned around and he was laying face down like this and there was just blood coming from his head. but he had his eyes shut, like maybe you see a little kid and they are like -- they don't want to believe something is real or -- his eyes were squinted real tight and shut and i reached up and i was -- my other hand, sully, sully, sully. and no response. i'm going to share more of that interview and an interviewer with christina's doctor later on in our program. still ahead on "starting point," the owner of a gun range that james holmes trialed tried to access to, why he had a strange feeling about the gunman. and what would cause a person to do something so evil and so atrocious? 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who is this alleged gunman? what are you finding out about what associates are saying? >> it's so bizarre, by now in cases that you and i have both covered, you hear people say there was a warning sign, a police report, some kind of violent activity or anything that would point to this. we're not seeing that at all. the school itself has done its best really to keep faculty and staff from talking to anybody in the media, even students. we did talk to a couple students of camera and told us this ghost like figure existed, one who worked in a lab with james holmes for three months last summer, told us even though he worked near him, he wasn't close to him, saying, i couldn't say anyone was close to him. then soledad, we talked to one female student who was in two lectures and said i can't say it was quiet. can't remember him saying a single word in two lectures. so he was extremely quiet person. >> this morning everyone tries to paint the picture of exactly who this suspected gunman is. drew griffin, thank you very much. a big question is what could drive a person to such terrible violence? were there any warning signs? we'll talk to a clinical psychologist as "starting point" continues. our live coverage is up next. stay with us. >> just a great kid. talented kid. very talented, a lot of gifts, make people laugh, always made people smile, gentle giant is the way we looked at him. welcome back to a specialty edition of "starting point." right now suspected gunman james holmes is being held in this jail right behind me. that's this building right over here. it is literally right next to the courthouse, in about four hours he'll make his way from the jail in isolation to his court appearance, that will last from two minutes to five minutes. it's the first time we'll see him in court and that hearing will be setting the date to file charges. big question of course today is why, why did this happen? what could cause a person to do something so evil, so atrocious? a clinical psychologist and program director of child and family and school based programs at the aurora based center. thanks for being with us. if are brought in to interview the suspect, what would the first thing you would want to know? >> wow, i mean there are so many unanswered questions that we have. and you know, i think part of the tragedy of all of this is that we want to know why. we want to know what would motivate somebody to do such a horrible thing. and the fact of the matter is we may never know why. we may never know if there is really a reason that will be satisfying to all of us for why this happened. and i know that the forensic experts will be spending a lot of time interviewing the suspect and trying to get that question answered. and you know, there are many ways to do that, different tests and speaking with him and interviewing him. but it will probably be a long process and take quite a while. >> what have you learned from the information we're getting from people who knew him, relatively well, i guess i would say, of someone who is a lab partner and sat behind him in class, all of them seem to say a couple of particular things, quiet, didn't seem to have any outward signs of any major issue and didn't talk a lot. what does that tell you? >> you know, it tells me again, that this -- could be anyone. and there isn't any particular -- of somebody that becomes a mass murderer, unfortunately. and sometimes we have many warning signs for something like this and sometimes we have none. and there are plenty of qet people who keep to themselves who live perfectly productive lives. i think that's part of the helplessness that we all feel that we don't know how to predict or how to prevent something like this from happening sfl that's very true. in the hours after the shooting on friday, when i was back in new york, abc news had a report where they reached out to a woman who said she was the suspect's mother. when she was asked, she said you have the right person and continued to talk a little bit about her son. need to call the police and fly out to colorado. does that strike you as a red flag? >> well, i think that's so tragic for a mother. i'm a mother myself and to think that you know your child so well that you do have some sense that something just isn't right. and i think if there's anybody on this earththat there is something wrong is a person's mother. >> this is what abc news reported their conversation to be with this woman. it didn't sound like mother's intuition, it sounded more that maybe there was a red flag, you have the right person, i need to get on a plane and call the police. >> and it's entirely possible, soledad that there were red flags that the mother knew. again, we just don't know and i don't think there was anything blatantly obvious, where people were clear i behaving in ways that were obviously disturbed. so there may have been some subtle warning signs and may not have been. in retroexpecspect we want to g at those. >> part of that is to know what happened that day and that night. but also, if we understand them, what does that teach us about preventing it for the next one? >> i think when a community goes through a trauma and this is a trauma that's been experienced by the whole world, there's so much helplessness that comes with experiencing trauma. and people want to get control and understanding is a way to have control and make meaning from something that has happened. it's only natural. it's human nature that we would want to do that. unfortunately that's not always how our world works and this case is a good example of that. >> as we learn more about the shooter, for some people that will provide a sense of solace, nice to have you, thanks for talking with us. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, another big story we're following this morning. judgment day for penn state, the ncaa getting ready to hand down what's being called unprecedented penalties for that school's role in the jerry sandusky abuse case. and a former fbi special agent whose specialty is mass shootings says certain signs were missed in the shooting. he'll talk about the attack and suspect's potential motives. special coverage of the colorado theater shooting. we