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closed doors. we'll tell you what's happening right now and what happens next. also, $640 million up for grabs. the largest lottery jackpot in history could be yours if you got the lucky ticket. i'm wolf blitzer. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we've got breaking news coming into the situation room right now. president obama has just stepped up his re-election campaign. we have the information that is just coming in, stepped up pressure on iran. huge new pressure. the white house has decided to go ahead with what will be the toughest sanctions yet against the iranian regime. bottom line, get this, any country getting oil from iran won't be doing business with the united states any longer. let's go straight to our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. tell our viewers what the president decided to do just now. >> well, if the news is that 12 countries that get oil from iran will have to make a decision by june 28th. either stop taking that oil or stop doing business with the u.s. now this should take a lot of oil off of the world market because iran is the third largest oil exporter in the world, but in a letter released today the president>> if you cr order to regulate it? >> while kennedy and chief justice roberts are part of the conservative majority they asked hard-hitting questions to both sides. >> i don't think you're addressing their main point which is that they're not creating commerce in health care. it's already there and we're all going to need some kind of health care. most of us will at some point. >> the skepticism of the government's case leaves the mandate in doubt, however, court watchers say they've left some wiggle room to side with the government albeit narrowly. >> no matter what side wins this case, it will win barely because it's so close. if the individual mandate is upheld, it is almost certain to be an opinion by five, maybe six justices, by saying congress can go this far, but no further, it cautioned such a high-profile case is impossible to predict. >> i would never get in the business of being a prognosticator. i do think the one thing that's pretty secure is that the justices are taking this case very seriously, the deliberations and process for them has just begun, really. >> reporter: so what happens now? the justices have certainly already voted on where they stand, this happens all in private and no press releases and no leaks and then begins the ever-important process of writing the opinion which needs to start almost immediately because they have four issues to decide and have very little time to finish up, wolf. >> they have basically until the end of june to let us all know the historic outcome of this decision. thanks very much, kate, for that. let's turn to jeffrey toobin, senior legal analyst and one of the best court watchers out there. so they meet informally, the chief justice convenes, this group, all nine justices together and we ask them for a straw vote and how they feel on these respective four issues. >> it's not a straw vote. it's a real vote. they go around the table and it's very much done by tradition. the chief justice casts the first vote and then they go in order of seniority starting with the senior associate justice antonin scalia all of the way down to the newest justice elena kagan. if the chief justice is in the majority and he a signs the opinion, usually a few days later to one of the justices in the majority. if the chief justice is not in the majority, the senior associate justice in the majority assigns the opinion and then they start exchanging drafts. >> do the justices ever change their minds after this additional vote? >> they do, not often, but it does happen. no decision of the court is official until the day it's announced. so these votes that they take around the table are by definition, tentative votes because once the justices see the arguments laid out by their colleague, sometimes they change their minds. it doesn't happen a lot, maybe a couple of times a year, very rarely do the votes switch in a way that changes the outcome of the case, but it does happen now and then. >> are you still convinced, as you were this earlier in the week that the obama administration, as you said on tuesday faced a train wreck with, on wednesday, a plain wreck. you've had a few days now to think about it. >> i sure do. i just think i was responding to what i saw. i thought the arguments went very, very well for paul clement. the question from the justices seemed to indicate they were more sympathetic to him, but this is just a prediction, and i've tried to make that clear that, you know, it's a projection and prediction and not a statement of fact, but i'm sticking with what i saw. >> other court watchers have a different assessment and dalia lithmic of slate.com. after tuesday it appeared that kennedy and roberts were both hostile to the bill, but attempting to keep an open find. kennedy implied he saw how the insurance market differed from other markets. i think most people believe if kennedy gets cold feet on striking down the mandate, roberts will go with him to write the opinion as narrowly as possible. what do you think about what dahlia lithwick. >> i think she walks on water, but i think they had a different reaction and we'll see what happened. >> just to be precise you think they will strike down the mandates and then go further and say the whole bill has got to go and congress has to start from scratch? >> no, that i'm not sure about. i do think they'll strike down the mandate. that's the part i'm more confident about. as for what that means for the rest of the opinion, i am not convinced that -- that there's a clear answer out there at this point. so i think it's a possibility that they strike down the whole law and going into the argument that seemed like an option that was almost outlandish, but clearly you had justices embracing that idea in the oral argument, but whether they're five votes for that is far from clear to me. >> jeffrey, thanks very much. good week for supreme court watches. >> it's been a really, really fun week. >> all right. thanks very much. rick santorum, he's dialing up his rhetoric. listen to this. >> we need a contrast, not a difference between tweedel dumb and tweedledee. >> key members of the republican establishment are rallying around mitt romney. and president obama all fired up today. he says he's been delivering on his promises of change and he's vowing there's more change to come. if there was a pill to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? 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'96. i did not support john mccain throughout the primary. i supported other people, un, last time. this is not the same kind of candidate. >> reporter: romney is not just lining up endorsements. he's mending fences and meeting behind closed doors with his old nemesis newt gingrich who sounds more pro-romney every day. >> i think mitt romney is clearly the front-runner. i think he will probably get the 1144, but i think he has to earn it. >> the romney campaign is only half way needed to clench the nomination and as a romney adviser told cnn, more and more republicans are recognizing the importance of unity for the real battle ahead and wolf, there's a good reason why the romney campaign wants this wrapped up in april and it's called may and look at the states in the calendar, north carolina, west virginia, texas, it doesn't sound like romney country. it sounds like santorum is ratcheting up against romney, comparing him and president obama and he's opened up this new line of attack on the environment and trying to say that mitt romney, like in the case with health care is following or is laying out a path for president obama on the issue of climate change. now the romney campaign had a response for that saying it's desperation that he's grasping at straws and rick santorum shows no signs that he's pulling out of the race any time soon. >> the house budget committee paul ryan would seem to be an important politician to have on your side. let's discuss what's going on with gloria borger and our chief congressional correspondent, dana bash. both of you have spent a lot of time with paul ryan and you spent a lot of time with him up in wisconsin. he's a significant player. >> i think this is an important endorsement in the sense that mitt romney likes the notion that there is a coalescing behind him, wolf, and it adds to the narrative. i would argue that the endorsements he ought to be looking for are the endorsements from evangelicals and those are the people within the republican party who remain the most skeptical about him, but if he can't get those these help. >> right. he'll get them eventually, but he needs them right now. democrats, though, some of them, correct me if i'm wrong, they seem to like the fact that paul ryan is looking for mitt romney. >> a web video that the democrats did that's amore. when you talk about paul ryan if you're a democrat the next thing that you say is he wants to do away with your medicare. whether that's fair or not it is the politics that democrats feel they've done pretty well on. this was the first time paul ryan passed the budget which many republicans were voting for, but were unsure of afterwards because democrats did such a good job of hitting republicans on it. i talked to a senior democrat who said when they make the argument that the republicans now romney and ryan want to do away with medicare at the expense of tax cuts for millionaires, they say that the polling is off the charts. so if they can continue to tie these two. >> which they will. >> in almost every interview, someone asked him about being a possible vice presidential running mate. is that realistic, do you think? >> well, he's got to be on the list and lo and behold, i also asked him that question, wolf. this was last sum wher i did a piece on paul ryan. take a listen to what he said back in august. >> who knows? i mean, i didn't plan on being a congressman in the first place. i thought i was going to go work in the field of economics. so i'm one of those people that cross bridges when we get to it. we had an open seat in the senate, and i decided against that because i thought i could make a bigger difference on the house budget commit impact. >> it doesn't sound leak a no way, no how. >> it's something that's out of my control and someone else's decision. >> there you are. not exactly shermanesque. the door is open. >> he's saying something similar. he's not ruling it out, necessarily, but it's not something anyone has spoken to him about seriously. >> that door is wide open and a clear difference with the way he answers the question and marco rubio who endorsed mitt romney yesterday who everyone is looking at as another potential vice presidential candidate. he's saying i don't think i want it. i talked to people close to paul ryan. >> he would take it? he would take it in a heartbeat. it would be a good pick, actually. wisconsin is a potential swing state. if you look at the history of it, presidential candidates who tend to be to pick people more like them, they look more comfortable, and if you're mitt romney you don't want anyone who will make you look less comfortable. >> my own personal guess is rob portman of ohio, the senator and budget director and former trade representative. i'm going to talk more about that, but i would put him at the top. >> and if you win ohio -- >> we greet him as mr. vice president. >> no republican has ever won the white house without capturing ohio first. >> and endorsed pretty early. just saying. >> i put him at the top of the list. thanks, guys, very much. >> thanks, wolf. marijuana is growing legally in the nation's capital. why officials insist it won't be abused. all fired up, president obama sounds a theme he made famous in the last race for the white house. >> in three years, because of what so many of you did in 2008, we've begun to see what change looks like. ♪ made sure his credit score did not go bad ♪ ♪ with a free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ app that he had ♪ downloaded it in the himalayas ♪ ♪ while meditating like a true playa ♪ ♪ now when he's surfing down in chile'a ♪ ♪ he can see when his score is in danger ♪ ♪ if you're a mobile type on the go ♪ ♪ i suggest you take a tip from my bro ♪ ♪ and download the app that lets you know ♪ ♪ at free-credit-score-dot-com now let's go. ♪ vo: offer applies with enrollment in freecreditscore.com™. ♪ ♪ wow... ♪ [ female announcer ] sometimes, all you need is the smooth, creamy taste of werther's original caramel to remind you that you're someone very special. ♪ werther's original caramels. at liberty mutual, we know how much you count on your car, and how much the people in your life count on you. that's why we offer accident forgiveness, where your price won't increase due to your first accident. we also offer a hassle-free lifetime repair guarantee, where the repairs made on your car are guaranteed for life, or they're on us. these are just two of the valuable features you can expect from liberty mutual. plus, when you insure both your home and car with us, it could save you time and money. at liberty mutual, we help you move on with your life, so get the insurance responsible drivers like you deserve. call us at... or visit your local liberty mutual office, where an agent can help you find the policy that's right for you. liberty mutual insurance, responsibility -- what's your policy? >> i'm wolf blitzer. here are some of the stories we're working on in "the situation room" for the next hour. life on the run. new details on how and where osama bin laden lived in the years following the 9/11 attacks. plus, take a look at these live pictures from a helmet camera as an ohio clerk sells lottery tickets for the biggest jackpot in history. we'll tell you how to increase your odds. what one winner did to hit the jackpot. stand by. and the killing of trayvon martin. the shooter's brother speaking out to cnn in an exclusive interview with our own piers morgan. i'll speak to piers. stand by. you're in "the situation room." all of that coming up in our next hour, but let's get to our strategy session. joining us are cnn contributors and the democratic strategist donna brazile and david frum, he writes for the daily beast and "news week." guys thanks very much for coming in. let me touch on what i speaking on with dana and gloria. i thought rob portman, the senator from ohio. i think that's an interesting idea. i like another cnn contributor, john avalon and brian sandoval and david petraeus should be somebody who can bring some foreign policy gravity. here's the thing that romney, i hope will not do that use the vice presidency as one more opportunity to rally the hard base of the republican party. if they are still not rallied by the time the convention, there's nothing that can be done. he has to talk to the country, and he needs to talk to the whole country. >> who scares as a vice presidential running mate, the democrats the most? would it marco rubio, paul ryan, jeb bush who can appeal to hispanics out there. >> like mitt romney they will represent the same old economic policies of the previous administration, so i'm not really fearful of any of his picks, but here's what i believe he will do. i believe he will go back to the right and perhaps put bob mcdonald, the governor of virginia, marco rubio, the senator from florida and he needs to put several important battleground states into play. >> here's what with marco rubio told the daily caller and he said this, he said there are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for president, but they didn't. i think mitt romney would be a fine president and he would be way better than the guy who is there right now. >> he wishes others had run. he would be a fine president. that doesn't sound like mitt romney is his top favorite. >> it certainly doesn't. i think that will register. i think that may be that people take themselves out when they have an intuition that they may not be in. now he has a reason, but the thing that has to be stress side the people who are being talked about by the base of the party, that is a message for the party itself. they were talking so long that they need to have a severe budget and have tax cuts for their people and protect the old and not the young. it is time to start talking to the whole country if you want to win. >> you think the cia director, general david petraeus would be someone that mitt romney would look toward? >> i have no information on that. i hope he would. one of the things we also need to remember is it's a big world out there. you'll be competing against the president who killed osama bin laden. that is going to be an issue and that will be an essential talking point of the administration and to have someone who can say, you know what? we also bring foreign policy and this is the general who would turn it in iraq and afghanistan. >> have you heard about speculation being the republican, vice presidential running mate. >> no, i have not heard that, but i do think that's an interesting point and they look for someone with foreign policy experience and perhaps condoleezza rice's name should be thrown in the mix if he's looking for somebody with that type of experience. i think mitt romney is a cautious politician, so he's likely to choose somebody like himself and someone with executive experience and that's why i had bob mcdonald as my number one person. >> i had rob portman, potentially, as a name out there that i mentioned. we'll invite portland into the situation. >> if he doesn't come on, i have a sense that he's not that interested. >> colin powell would also be another interesting choice. >> colin powell is in his 70s. >> that's the new 50s. >> he's turned it down before. >> i don't know if you had a chance to see president obama's speech in vermont today. it was a real campaign speech. he was on fire. do we have a clip of the president of the united states? let me play this right now. >> in three years, because of what so many of you did in 2008, we've begun to see what change looks like. change is the fact that for the first time in nine years there are no americans fighting in iraq. we refocused our -- who attacked us on 9/11 and thanks to the men and women in uniform, al qaeda is weaker than its ever been, osama bin laden is no more, already 2.5 million young people now have health insurance who didn't have it before because this law lets them stay on their parents' plan. already, millions of seniors are paying less for their prescription drugs because of this law. >> already americans can't be denied or dropped by their insurance companies when they need care the most. already they're getting preventive care that they didn't have before. that's happening right now. >> as a former white house speechwriter, it's a pretty good speech. >> pretty interesting omissions. it's from iraq to the killing of osama bin laden and omitting the fact that he marched american troops into afghanistan and marched them out again without achieving anything much in the interval. i also noted that i don't know it's completely representative. soft message on the economy because the main thing you want to say when i was president, they're better now and he'll say, things were not so good when i took office and they're good now. >> he killed bin laden and ended the war in iraq and had forces out of afghanistan advanced women in the workplace. my list -- i have a pad. president obama has a great story. the american people will have a choice this fall, and i believe he's fired up, ready to go. i was in vermont yesterday. they're excited. >> you did work -- >> i'm not too old to do advanced work, but i was speak at uvm. >> and he was the first president to visit vermont. >> you were still in elementary school. >> the president had his coat on. >> great state, vermont. marijuana is growing legally here in washington, d.c., at least for some users. we have details into "the situation room." >> a welcome home for one american soldier. this is a feel good story and you'll want to see it. me? 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>> wolf, take a look at this. remember this bus that was launched by a tornado into a diner in henryville, indiana? we have video from inside the bus. it shows us what happened moments before the bus driver and her kids escaped this terrifying disaster. >> school bus driver, angel perry is trying to calm her students as the race to dodge that f-4 tornado begins. >> we're going to the baptist church. >> i stopped the bus for a second and put my hands down and said dear lord, what do i do? >> thinking fast she quickly radios a dispatcher. >> i know you're busy. >> sch, quiet! >> with chaos all around her, she makes a rash decision. >> count how many kids we have, please? >> 11. thank you so much. if anybody needs to call their parents, we're going back to school. >> i do. i don't know my parents' number. >> tornado on the ground. quiet! >> i see a tornado on the ground. >> put your book over your head. do it. get in the middle. >> they have a minute and a half to get out of the way and find cover. >> there is a tornado right there, guys. look. funnel cloud. >> in a frantic state of mind she calmly instructions their students. don't block me. we're just going to go as fast as we can into the school. >> they make it back to school. the tornado moves closer. they make a run for it. >> everybody stay together. our group together, right now, go, go, go, go, go, go! >> one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. come on! come on! ten, 11. go! go! go! >> just moments later the 18-ton bus moves across a parking lot, into a car, lifts into the air and is thrown into a diner. a picture that will never be forgotten in the city of henryville. the bus is now inside the restaurant and what also will not be forgotten are the lives saved from the quick thinking of a heroic bus driver. >> just to give you what it took to move the bus across the parking lot. it was an ef-4 with 170 miles an hour and one of two tornados that struck henryville that day. wolf? >> carol, thank you. amazing videos. we have more amazing videos. take a look at this incredible, up close video of this dangerous-looking tornado. look at this. it was recorded in mexico yesterday. let's bring out our severe weather expert chad myers. pretty amazing pictures. >> yes. and this tornado, wolf, probably an f2, somewhere around 100 miles per hour, maybe more, went right over the roadway, right in front of where these ladies were driving. they had the presence of mind to stop the car, don't get closer and the storm continued across the highway and when they got up to where the storm was across the highway, they found cars overturned and they found cars blown off the highway and as we put this into play, this you will see as they turn and pan the camera off to the right how much bigger this tornado got. you're looking at at least 125, 135 miles per hour here and this is the dust and the dirt that this tornado was picking up. pretty spectacular pictures of this storm on the ground, watching the swirl of this storm going around. for now minutes and minute, the ladies did get out of the way and, boy, it was a tough couple of hours there for those people there. there was lots of hail with the storm as well. wolf? >> are we still in what some might call tornado season or is that pretty much over with? >> no, it's just starting. people were saying how rare is this for mexico? mexico and texas are right next to each other and texas is the heart of tornado alley right with oklahoma city. so, yes, northern mexico does get tornados and there's proof positive of that right there. we are finally into spring. all of the tornadoes we've had, a couple of hundred have been in winter. now we are into spring time and we will have tornadoes. in fact, there is one tornado warning right now happening for the panhandle of florida into bay county florida, not on the ground, but indicated by radar. we'll be in tornado for many, many more months. >> we'll watch it together with you. let's hope for the best. thank you. farthing children while on the run and that's just for starters. we have shocking revelations about osama bin laden from one of his widows. >> a breach of credit card security. millions and millions of people in the united states may be affected right now, information you need to know. now, in every box of general mills big g cereal, there's more whole grain than any other ingredient. that's why it's listed first. get more whole grain than any other ingredient... just look for the white check. [ male announcer ] brake problems? stop in to meineke today for a free brake inspection and you'll say... my money. my choice. my meineke. >> take a look at these long plines this is hawthorne, california, not far from los angeles. they're lining up there to buy these lottery tickets. $640 million goes to the winner or if there are more than one winner, then they'll divide up $640 million at 11:00 p.m. eastern tonight we'll know if there is a winner presumably, and we'll know the combination. we're watching this story and much more coming up at the top of the hour. meanwhile, let's take a closer look at some of this hour's hotshots. in myanmar, a young supporter shouts a slogan during a rally. in afghanistan, a dog barks at a german nato soldier. gasoline supplies to dwindle ahead of a possible strike by fuel truck drivers and in paris, movers use an external elevator to carry boxes. hotshots, pictures coming into the situation room from around the world. jetblue compensating passengers on that diverted flight. lisa is back and monitoring other top stories in "the situation room." what's the latest? >> the airlines are says it has reached out to all of the passengers on flight 91, and it made an emergency landing after an in-flight meltdown by the captain. jetblue is offering refunds for the one-way fair and a voucher for twice the value of the original ticket. federal officials are investigating that incident and more trouble for blackberry maker, research in motion. the company reported a large loss and disappointing sales. the new ceo says substantial change is what's needed. he says he'll be exploring all options including selling the company. research in motion has had increasing difficulty competing with other smartphone makers. and stocks ended a spectacular quarter today with the dow and s&p at their highest levels in a decade. the nasdaq is at its highest since 2000. for the quarter, the dow is up 8% and the s&p up 12% and the nasdaq a whopping 19%. the gains were by improving check data in the u.s. and easing concerns about europe's debt crisis. >> and canada is ditching the penny. they say it costs more to make the penny than it is worth. the royal canadian mint will stop distributing pennies this fall, but they'll still be able to use them. canada calls the penny a burden to the economy. i know that's something that they've talked about doing here in the united states, but for now the u.s. penny lives. >> still lives for now. you're in "the situation room," happening now, a massive security breach could affect 10 million credit and debit card users in the united states this hour. you will find out if your line of credit is at risk. plus one of osama bin laden's widows is opening up about their years in hiding. when you hear what he was doing you'll wonder how pakistani officials coulden cyst they could have possibly missed this. and men, women and children dumped at the border after dark with no money, no phone. who's behind it? the u.s. government is, we'll tell you why. we want to welcome our viewers around the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> when we begin this hour with the story everyone in the united states seems to be talking about right now. the largest jackpot in lottery history, in the world. it's an astounding $640 million and it's still growing. that's because fortune hunters across the country are like up to buy mega millions' lottery tickets and they have six hours to go before the winning numbers are revealed. we have live cameras watching the action outside and inside lottery ticket sites. we all would like ton is there a way of improving the odds of hitting this enormous jackpot. mary snow is standing by at a convenience store. lottery fever is sweeping the country. >> reporter: it certainly is, wolf. you talked to just about anyone here buying a ticket and they'll tell you, increasing your odds are boosted instantaneously when buying some of these tickets, but sales are so brisk in new york, lottery officials are making $2.4 million an hour in sales, and there are a lot of theories about boosting their odds and there's one theory about avoiding single-digit numbers and we have unconventional advice from a former winner. >> from coast to coast, wanna be millionaires shrug up daunting odds for a shot at $640 million. at this liquor store in hawthorne, california, some wait for hours hoping luck will strike again. >> we made six different millionaires and everyone feels lucky over here. >> reporter: that lucky streak is fueling hopes of reliving a moment that $112 million winner cynthia stafford remembers well. >> i stood and cried for a moment, like, okay. this is -- this is awesome. this is really awesome. i didn't think, though. i kind of felt like i was close to it. >> stafford used her millions to become the owner of a production company and philanthropist. she says she was in danger of losing her house, caring for her brother's five children after he was killed in a car accident when she won big in 2007. what worked for her? she says she visualized the number $112 million and when the jackpot hit that amount she bought two tickets. >> it was a number that i randomly picked and i said, well, that sounds good and wrote it down on a sheet of paper, meditated on it until i no longer felt the need to meditate, and it happened. >> yeah. >> others see the numbers differently. >> one in 176 million, that's with an "m." the chance of winning is a hot topic for economists. some say the best bet is not buying the ticket at all. increasing the odds can come down to picking unique numbers. >> what are lucky numbers may be an unlucky number because if that's one of the numbers that comes up it might be more likely that there will be multiple winning tickets in circulation. officials say it's all random. new york has had the most mega million winners followed by california and ohio. cynthia stafford dismisses the math and she's the last laugh. >> don't say i'm going to buy a ticket, but i probably won't win. yeah, you're not going to win because you gave your money away. >> keep visualizing $640 million. it can't hurt. one of the economists we spoke to says because the jackpot is so large now, he expects there might be as many as three or four winners and hes right now there's a 5% chance, he calculates that there will be no winner drawn tonight. >> 5% where you are, mary. big line over there, or is it relatively easy to go buy a ticket? >> people are getting out of work, so the line is starting to form, but there are so many convenience stores in manhattan that are selling these tickets and we haven't seen long lines that we have seen in other parts of the country. >> mary, thanks very much. >> even with a $640 million payout, there will be lots of cash left over for 42 states that take part in the mega millions game. where does all of that money go. let's bring in our owni ieerin burnett. >> about half of the ticket money actually goes to the winner, 50 cents of every dollar goes to the eventual winner of the lottery and 35% of it -- 35 cents actually goes back to the states and it is a lot of money for state, wolf. a lot of it actually goes to education. i've been looking today, since lotteries in this country began in the late 1960s and early 1970s. most of money tends to go to education and in the states that have the biggest lotteries over time, california, new york, florida. they put all of their money back into education. new york, 15% of the education last year in new york state came from the lottery. >> if they're going to give out to the winner or winners $640 million, what i hear you saying is they're taking in $1 billion and 200 million, twice as much as they distribute. >> they're taking in a lot more money and it does add up over time. i had the state and provincial lotteries. $18 bill one was what the states netted and that's a lot of money. compare it to new york state alone which today passed a $133 billion budget and it doesn't look like a lot of money, but when you look at the gap, given the fiscal crisis in this country. the center for budget proi orit says the gap is $49 billion and that's essentially the deficit for states around the country, when you compare 18 billion in profits to the states from the lottery about $49 billion gap and it actually does look like a lot of money. so there are a lot of interesting ways to crunch this and we'll have a lottery winner tonight who won $122 million and you know who i have, wolf? i have a guy named john crow and he is the guy who will pick the balls tonight. >> have you bought a ticket yet, erin? >> our show bought a ticket and we put all of our names on it -- >> i didn't buy one personally. i'll split it with the other 35. i think there are 35 other names that went on that ticket. >> you're a generous person and i went out and bought a few tickets last night and i suspect in my pocket right now i have that winning ticket, but i tweeted earlier in the day, erin, i will be back in "the situation room" on monday even after i win that 640 -- i'll be here because i love this job. >> i would, too. one other thing we'll break down tonight which is pretty amazing. the president talked about lotteries as a regressive tax and they usually, are usually for every dollar ticket, the expected value is well below a dollar and that means it's a bad bet and this lottery because so many people are playing and it's gotten so big, well above a dollar, the expected value of a ticket. it makes sense right now to go out and buy one. >> good luck to your whole team and good luck to everyone. >> let's bring in someone that knows about the lottery and how it works. we're talking to the executive director of the d.c. library. thanks for coming in. >> you have your winning ticket. >> no, i'm really not allowed to play, unfortunately. how important is this and we make fun of it for the district of columbia and the education process in d.c., the nation's capital. >> erin had it right. basically, 50 cents of every dollar goes to the winning player and not just the jackpot, but the other winners at lower levels and the other 50 cents goes to the jurisdiction as well as to the retailers selling the tickets. they generally get 5% on everything they sell, and you think about it, when people go and buy these tickets, they're not just buying mega millions tickets and they might buy a cup of coffee and a loaf of bread and it brings great business to anybody whoen joys it -- >> i was right when i said $1.2 billion might be created as a result of this. half of it might go to the winner. >> or winners. because there will be plenty of people who don't win 600 or $640 million. some will win as little as $4 or $5. some will win $250,000 or even a million. >> not only in the united states, but around the world. >> it's the largest in the universe. it's such excitement. we expect that over i think 600 million to $700 million have been sold since tuesday night when the last drawing was held friday night tonight. so it's just tremendous excitement and people are savvy. they know the odds are so long, you and i can get hit by lightning three times. >> so say the ticket i bought last night, a $1 ticket. i win. >> yes. >> the guy who sold me the ticket at the convenience store, what does he get? >> it depends on the jurisdiction. >> 25,000. that's it. >> 25,000. >> the owner of the store, and not the clerk. >> usually the owner will share -- >> they don't have to. >> it's up to them. >> if no one wins tonight what happens? >> if no one wins we're probably talking about a $1 billion jackpot. i don't have those number, but i'm told we're probably talking a billion or more. already we're at 640, and i suspect 700. >> 11:00 p.m. eastern and that's when the numbers will be -- >> i think it will be more than 640. >> so maybe $700 million and whoever wins has to pay tax. >> and you would still come to work on monday. >> if i got that 700 -- i will be here in "the situation room." i will interview myself and how do you feel about the $700 million. >> i hope you live in d.c. because you have to pay taxes. if you want to take it in one lump sum and an n you annuity, u would still have to pay. >> about a third of it will go to the feds or to the state and jurisdiction. >> let them take the money. it's still a lot of money. >> it's wonderful. enjoy. >> thanks. >> you're welcome. a new defense for the man wo killed trayvon martin. i'll ask piers if he believes what he had to say. plus the new bombshell from osama bin laden's widow. could someone be using stolen information from your credit card right now? 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you have consumer goods and airline tickets and gasoline and other things that you get at the store here. all of these transactions and every time somebody buys something somebody gets paid and it has to be processed through so you get their share and they get their share and you get the bill and it's handled by the processing center in the middle. that's the company that special sizes in crunching all those numbers and making everything work. now there is an inherent promise in place by these companies when something goes wrong in that procedure. usually what they say is, look, if something went really, really bad here and in trouth, you end up to get a false charge from an airline or consumer goods place and it came through this processing center and came to you, what they say is we'll stop that. you won't have to pay that. we all have charges that don't belong there and the company will say you don't have to pay for that, that doesn't matter. so why is this an issue, if all of this information has been stolen. the issue is not that you might get an extra bill on your credit card. although that could happen with your information being stolen, the processing center in the middle has a tremendous amount of important information about this. this is not about your money right now. it's about the information about you. your credit card number. your account number. your credit limit and the type of account, your address, your phone number and your official numbers and your official name. you know why all of this matters, wolf? because this is real. it's all accurate. it all relates to a real person and a real place with a real income and that's the value of a theft like this, not that they can rip off your credit card for something else, but because they can take this number, and all of this information and they can sell it to other people around the world who want to buy legitimate information. wholesalers and when i say wholesalers these are illegal wholesalers because what they would do in turn is then they would take that information and they would sell it again. so it's been sold by the person who bought it to a wholesaler who, in turn, then sells it to a variety of scam artists who may then take your information to open new accounts and they use those new accounts to buy products with the resale and on and on it goes. they've taken your identity and created a whole bunch of new accounts that you may not know about for quite some time until they're hugely in default and many thousands of dollars are involved. are you going to be involved in paying for that? maybe not, but it can make a huge headache for you trying to clear up your credit and get your name back again for things that you knew nothing about. robert manning from the responsible debt relief organization spoke about it earlier today and how much trouble this can be for us. >> some people have spent $50,000, $60,000 in terms of hiring attorneys, taking time off from work, traveling to different courts, testifying at local police hearings, filing with the federal trade commission. i mean, this is a nightmare where the dimensions of the crisis for the individual are really hard to calculate. >> it's a little bit hard to follow, wolf, but the bottom line is this is not about someone taking your credit card number and charging something that you'll have to pay for. it's about them taking your identity and selling them over and over and over again to people who charge many hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and you may not have to pay for that, but getting your identity back so you can get your credit card back and you can get loans and you can get on with your life, that can be, as you said, a nightmare. >> that can be terrifying. one of the credit card companies saying about this? what are they doing about it? >> what they're doing about it is what credit card dumps usually say is we will protect the people affected by this and we'll deal with this breach, but the trick is this. a credit card company and we're not targeting visa here and mastercard and american express and all sort of companies that may be caught in things like this from time to time. the simple truth is they may protect you, up front, wolf, but once it's gone from this process why your identity has been sold from a wholesaler, at some point, many banks and many credit card companies may say that's not us, anymore, and that's a whole different endeavor and now you're on your own. >> tom foreman, thanks very, very much. >> it could have been a tip-off about where osama bin laden was hiding for years. stand by to hear what his widow has been telling investigators. and they're left at the border to fend for themselves without money and phones. some of them are children. stand by for this report. ♪ made sure his credit score did not go bad ♪ ♪ with a free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ app that he had ♪ downloaded it in the himalayas ♪ ♪ while meditating like a true playa ♪ ♪ now when he's surfing down in chile'a ♪ ♪ he can see when his score is in danger ♪ ♪ if you're a mobile type on the go ♪ ♪ i suggest you take a tip from my bro ♪ ♪ and download the app that lets you know ♪ ♪ at free-credit-score-dot-com now let's go. ♪ vo: offer applies with enrollment in freecreditscore.com™. chocolate lemonade ? 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there's now even more reason to wonder if pakistani officials knew osama bin laden was hiding under their noses for years. his youngest widow has told investigators that bin laden fathered four children while he was a fugitive and he wasn't all that secretive about it. cnn's brian todd is taking a closer look at this story for us. pretty amazing, brian. what are you learning? >> at least his wife wasn't all that secret. she went to a hospital to have children on two occasions. she reportedly gave fake i.d. papers at that hospital, but this does raise questions about pakistani officials' knowledge of the movements of bin laden and his family. >> he was alternately running, hiding and farthing children in the years after 9/11. new details of osama bin laden's life on the run have emerged given by his youngest wife yemeni born fatah. in documents obtained by cnn, miss fatah told police that she and her family lived in pakistan for the years between the september 11th attacks and bin laden's death. consistently during those years, pakistani leaders said this about bin laden's whereabouts. >> i don't think osama bin laden is in pakistan. >> the interrogation report filed in january is paraphrased by a police official. the police say fatah said they lived in five look after 11 in five safe houses. fatah says right after 9/11 her family scattered. she went from the area around kandahar, afghanistan, to karachi, pakistan and stayed there for about eight or nine months. in mid-2002 she went to peshawar, pakistan and reunited with bin laden there and the family and stayed there for eight or nine months. in 2003 she went to the city of haripur in pakistan and stayed there for about two years and in 2005 she went to abbottabad, pakistan, to that compound where they stayed there for six years until bin laden's death. bin laden may not have been with her that entire time, but fatah says while they were on the run she gave birth to four of the five children she had with bin laden. in her report she claims to have given birth to two children in a pakistani government hospital. she says she only stayed in the hospital for two or three hours each time. the new york times cites a separate document saying she gave fake i.d. papers to hospital staff. i spoke with terrorism analyst brian fishman about the children born in those years. >> what does that say about his moind set during those years on the run? >> we have this notion that he was interested in preserving his legacy, you know. we have the famous video of him watching his old videos, sitting there in the house in abbottabad. so, you know, it's possible to think that he wants to have a big family. he wants to be seen as a major sheikh. >> a u.s. official tells us bin laden's wife's account does seem plausible. we've tried several times to get response from pakistani officials from these beings and asked him if anyone in the government knew that his wife gave birth in the hospital. >> what about the wife living with bin laden when he was killed? >> according to the newspaper in pakistan, neither of those two widows who are older or their two children have been cooperating with pakistani authorities. it's likely that all three wives with him on monday when we violated immigration laws. >> let's bring in security analyst peter bergen who has written a book that will be coming out very soon on bin laden and on the hunt, and i'm anxious to get that book, peter. you've seen these documents. you actually have copies of these documents. give us your assessment and how credible, first of all, do you think this information is? >> i think this information is completely credible and it fits what we've known up to this point and one of the big questions, wolf, that we've had is what did bin laden do before we got to abbottabad. we know he was in the battle of tora bora in afghanistan in december 2001 and this is a big gap of four years. what was he doing? these documents helped answer that. we can now say definitively in 2002, he was in peshawar, a big city in pakistan by the afghan border and he went to other big cities over the course of those years which was a bit of a blank. >> you would agree this latest information raises even more doubt on the credibility of pakistani officials who insist they had no knowledge of bin laden's whereabouts inside their country. >> actually, we recovered -- the united states has recovered thousands of documents and there is no smoking gun in those ument dos. >> no smoking gun that the intelligence service and the government and anyone in the pakistani establishment knew he was hiding in abbottabad? >> it's hard to prove negatives, but there's no evidence. if there was the evidence i think the u.s. government would have made it public by now. >> why would the u.s. government who needs pakistan right now, they have a nuclear arsenal. it would completely destroy this, whatever semblance of a relationship still exists with pakistan. why are you so sure the u.s. government would make that public if you knew for sure that there was a smoking gun? >> a lot of people looked at these do you means and it's not a secret that you can keep at this point. they haven't been declassified yet. the other thing, to go back after the hakani network in pakistan, a very definitive, public statement that the pakistani military was supporting a taliban militia. the united states has said things that have been quite critical. >> including leon panetta, the secretary of defense who was the cia director raising doubts about these denials from pakistani officials. >> right. that was on "60 minutes," as you recall. >> yes. >> his spokesman made a clarification that that was a rather old interview, that he was interviewed over the course of a long period of time. it's a very good question to continue to ask. these documents -- >> what do you, peter bergen, the expert on bin laden. you spoke with him in the '80s and '90s. you went there and you've completed a book that is about to come out on "the hunt for bin laden," do you believe that pakistani officials knew bin laden was hiding there? ? the short answer is no, and the reason is that we don't have the edz of that, from knowing bin laden pretty well and having thought about him for a long time and this was a paranoid, and secretive guy and there were people on the compound who weren't sure if bin laden was living there and the family members of his couriers. so he was, you know, he was keeping a very low profile and don't forget that al qaeda tried to two occasions to assassinate pakistani president pervez musharraf and that was bin laden enciting attacks in the pakistani state. he was an enemy of the pakistani state and a paranoid guy and for those reasons it's unlikely that he would have given a head's up to any pakistani official. >> the new book comes out when? >> may 1st. >> you'll be in "the situation room" shortly thereafter. we're trying to piece what happened in the minutes before trayvon martin was killed. our piers morgan spoke with the brother of george zimmerman. stand by for that and my live conversation with piers. i want his impressions. women and children left at the border in the dark and in danger. well, if we don't find an audience, all we'll ever do is rehearse. maybe you should try every door direct mail. just select the zip codes where you want your message to be seen, print it yourself, or we'll help you find a local partner and you find the customers that matter most. brilliant. clifton, show us overjoyed. no, too much. jennessa. ah! a round of applause. 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>> what has come out that i can talk about today is that trayvon martin somehow snuck up on him. according to mr. crump, an attorney, we don't know if this is verifiable information, but he was on the phone with his girlfriend. i don't know if that's a police source, but i know his attorney solds up the girlfriend as a source and says trayvon told him i'm not running. i'm going to walk real slow and trayvon went up to george and there's some discussion about did he say do you have a problem. are you following me? >> what did george tell you he said? one of those things. do you have a problem with me? are you following me? something like that. my brother drew back to grab his phone in retreat to call again 911 and say, now this person who i lost sight of is not pursuing has now confronted me. that's what he did. he never got to make that call because he was attacked by mr. martin. >> when you say attacked what did george tell you trayvon did to him? well, i don't know. i believe that at the time george knew he had sustained some kind of injury to his face or his nose. i don't know that he knew it was broken. >> he's -- here's the weird thing. how do you explain, as a family the video that came out last night of your brother within not much time after this incident, walking around unaided, perfectly okay with no apparent knockings to his face. if you get a broken nose or the kind of head injuries sustainable from having your head smashed on a concrete floor, you will have blood everywhere and visible injuries. there is nothing. we're looking at images and no visible sign of any attack. how do you explain that? >> we are confident the medical records will explain all of george's medical history, both how he was treated at the scene. to me, his nose looks swollen in that video. i'm his brother. >> it's gotten a let of buzz out there. what do you think? how credible is this brother? >> well, the bottom line is he and his father who came out the night before and we didn't see his face and he talked in a very, very similar way on the detail. it seems that the family have an agreed line that they have come out to speak about, about what they claim happened. now there are some contradictions here. we know for a fact from one of the 9/11 calls that george zimmerman was told to stop following trayvon martin and we are now supposed to believe that he carried on and then he stops and then trayvon martin sneaks up on him to quote robert zimmerman and surprises him. is that likely? is that credible? it would seem unlikely and not very credible, but that's the version they have forward and the other question is my other guest, mike tyson and i said was it obvious in the interview when you spoke to the brother about how trayvon martin would have known he had a gun, a concealed firearm and that hasn't been explain. george zimmerman was going for his gun buzz he could see trayvon martin was -- and there are a lot of unanswered questions here and the family's version of events is very precise and you could argue that it was deliberately designed to qualify under florida's particular stand your ground law, and if you believe their version of events and that is indeed what happened then they would have an argument under that law for self-defense because you believe that your life is in imminent danger, but if you look at all of the facts and their totality and you debuts this is unlikely given the fact that george zimmerman was told in a 911 to top following this bay and then is supposed to have done to abc tells me tonight it sounds inkred lues. >> you've done more, and we'll probably see an arrest. give me your thought. >> it won't help everybody. it might help george zimmerman, if the legal process began with an arrest and potential charges and maybe even a trial because at the moment you have a situation where it appears on the ground on the night the law enforcement authorities in florida that night had differing views. some wanted to charge him with manslaughter. others thought under the stand your ground law he should bey from to go home. if they were having that argument on the ninth, wouldn't the best thing to have done was to arrest him at the very least. >> if you believe trivon martin, they said that shea began pounding his head into the floor. broke his nose and within half an hour because we believe that video from the current timeline that was available was 30 to 38 minutes later. he appears perfectly normal and no sign of any blood or injuries to his head and it doesn't tally with somebody who has just recovered from a terrible beating so bad that he feared he was about to be killed. >> piers, we'll have a lot more on this story coming up later tonight at 9:00 p. minute eastern. we'll be watching as we do every singen very, it's worth their 29 million and now critics are calling that morally wrong. ♪ ...that right now, you want to know where you are, and where you'd like to be. we know you'd like to see the same information your advisor does so you can get a deeper understanding of what's going on with your portfolio. we know all this because we asked you, and what we heard helped us create pnc wealth insight, a smarter way to work with your pnc advisor, so you can make better decisions and live achievement. home protector plus, from liberty mutual insurance, where the costs to both repair your home and replace your possessions are covered. and we don't just cut a check for the depreciated value -- we can actually replace your stuff with an exact or near match. plus, if your home is unfit to live in after an incident, we pay for you to stay somewhere else while it's being repaired. home protector plus, from liberty mutual insurance. because you never know what lies around the corner. to get a free quote, call... visit a local office, or go to libertymutual.com today. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? 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no. >> reporter: have you ever been to nogales before? >> no. >> reporter: do you have money? >> no, i do not. >> reporter: all ariel had with him was a backpack and a picture of his mother. how dangerous do you think it is for somebody your age? >> very dangerous. very dangerous. i'm just terrified being here. >> reporter: jeremy slack has spent four years studying patterns of deportation along the u.s./mexico border. he's seeing a disturbing trend. slack says people like ariel who have been deported to mexico or migrants waiting on the border to cross illegally into the united states have become prime targets for cartel gangs who control the border. >> they know that migrants have connections to the u.s. and families in the u.s. can come up with a couple thousand dollars to pay to get them out of trouble. >> reporter: there are only two temporary shelters in nogales for deportees, and they're always packed. this woman tells us she and her husband were kidnapped at sundown. she says they were taken to a hotel and held foransome with ten others who were kept in a room for four days until family members in los angeles wired $3,000 to their captors. they tied your hands? this man told us after he was deported to a town near the texas border, controlled by the cartel, he and a friend were pulled off a public bus at 9:30 at night by masked men dressed as police. he says they were held for 48 hours and beaten. he was released when the gunman found out he was not from rival cartel territory, but his friend was never seen again. just how many migrants have been victimized? no one knows for sure because victims like the people we talked to won't go to police. they're too afraid. in some border towns controlled by the cartel, even the police have fled. but that reality has not slowed down the deportations after dark. mexican officials say deportations to the states in mexico known as cartel strongholds are up by nearly 60% in the last two years. these states are so dangerous, our photographer who shot this video of men, women and children being deported at midnight couldn't risk being seen with this camera. he had to shoot from his car and get out. he knows how quickly word can get back to the cartel gangs. which leads us back to the central question, why must these people be dropped off here after dark? u.s. immigration and customs enforcement officials wouldn't talk with us on camera. but in a statement said, "i.c.e. is committed to ensuring the safety and welfare of individuals who are being removed from the united states. that the agency closely coordinates with the mexican government on the location and timing of all repatriations of mexican nationals." meanwhile outside, the buses keep rolling. people wander into the night or huddle together in the chapel of this shelter, praying for safe passage to a better life. we reached out to the mexican embassy in washington, d.c., and we were told that the only exceptions to night deportations are pregnant women, unaccompanied minors, sick or elderly people. a spokeswoman also told us that everyone else who's deported at night are picked up at the border and then taken to shelters. but during the two nights that we observed the deportations from 11:00 at night till 3:00 in the morning on the arizona and texas borders, we saw no such thing. wolf? >> so it looks like this situation is going to continue, is that right? >> it sure does, wolf. and you know, they say it's realot

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