>> what is the very latest? >> it's a university where there are students apparently learning the art of acupuncture, we know of five people we were killed her. what we do not know is was that shooter connected to the university? you can take a look at the active situation, we have a big perimeter set up. we do understand that the oakland police have now detained and that is the word they are using, is detained, one person who they believe may be responsible for this shooting. it is not being considered an arrest yet and oakland police are not saying if there was a second person involved or more. unconfirmed reports, five people dead, we did see some of those people being brought out and put on the ground and tarps being put on their body. a very sad day in oakland. >> mark, what do we know about this person detained for questioning? a student faculty, a stranger to the school, do we know anything about this person? >> that is the question we all have is who is this potential shooter? the shooting did occur inside of the building. so from that standpoint, you could surmise that perhaps the person was a student or an employee. at this point oakland police not releasing any details about who this person is, his relationship to the school, to the university. the fact that they're not using the term arrest, just someone who's been questioned. we are led to believe that police are sure they have their man. unfortunately the police have not officially said that yet, so we have to use the word unconfirmed but you can see them on the ground and body bags being put over them. >> do we know what kind of a weapon was used? an assault, a handgun, a rifle. anything like that? >> police have been doing in the last 15 minutes, they have been going into the building to make sure that there were not more people, perhaps students of the united states, perhaps hiding in closets, perhaps being evacuated, or if there's another gunman in there. four people being taken to local hospitals, at minimum, at least nine people involved, likely five fatalities, four injuries, what kind of weapon, we just don't know. >> we'll check back with you, mark, it's a good thing that it looks like they're scaling back if in fact they have arrested the suspect involved in this mass killing, i must say, five individuals confirmed dead. brian snow is there. tell us what you saw, what your role, what your involvement in the school is? >> i would just trying to do my normal work at the credit union. in oakland, sometimes things like that happen, but it dies over, you know it doesn't really affect a lot of people. but i go outside and the cops are saying, don't move, don't move. it started getting chaotic. and i saw one of the students come out with a bullet hole. >> are you a student at that school? >> i'm not a student at any school. i heard there was a shooting, and i was going to see if my aunt was okay. >> you just give us a little flavor of what was going on, a very, very deadly situation. five, we believe are dead, we don't know if they're students, faculty or who they were, but we do know that the reporting that we got from our affiliate, it looks like the suspect has been detained by police. brian, thanks very much for calling in. tom foreman, set the scene for us, where is this school? i know it's not far from oakland and san francisco. >> it's northern california, across the bay is oakland. let's move in close to the university and get an idea of the lay of the land here. this is an area that seems to be largely used for businesses and education. here is the university here. it's not a big place, you see those are cars there. it's not a huge complex here, they teach a christian approach to health care, music, focus on the korean community. of course in the korean community in this country, christianity is one of the big prevalent religions. but the area around here, includes an area not terribly far away. there are several places that -- there's a jail down the road. there's a school that teaches avionics, this is very much a business sort of community, as a reporter mentioned a minute ago, maybe it's actually connected to the school that happened here, but there are many places around here that could have been a target if you're talking about a general gunman roaming the area. this is a tribute to martin luther king on the -- the raiders play and the athletics, so it's an idea of what that area would be like and where this happened this afternoon. not many homes until you go quite some different way from oikos university here. we're still trying to determine how many students were in in building when the shooting plan. >> paul is in los angeles following what's going on. you're getting additional information as well, paul, what are you learn ing. we have heard from our affiliate ktvu that the death toll has reached five in this case. we know that five people have been brought to highland hospital. and a little bit more about oikos university. it's sort of in the warehouse area, and it's not a huge university. and among other things, they focus on acupuncture, nursing, theology. it seems to be more of a vocational school. the gunman entered the school, he is expected to be a korean male. it all took place at about 10:30 this afternoon. let's take a look at what police said earlier today. >> a gunman came into the college and fired multiple shots. we do have fatalities. i cannot confirm the number of fatalities we have at this time. we additionally have victims who have suffered from gunshot wounds, i cannot confirm the numbers at this time. >> so a suspect is believed to be in custody at this time. you may have heard, they're not sure about the number of fatalitie fatalities. five people are dead and the number of wounded remains in question right now, wolf. >> we're going to continue to follow the story, five confirmed dead, and five taken to the hospital. the suspect we believe is in police custody now. other important news we're watching plug in the political world. he has three primaries tomorrow, including an important battle with rick santorum in wisconsin. mitt romney is already pivoting toward the november election and a new poll brings him some new worries about where he stands with women voters. our senior correspondent joe johns is covering mitt romney in wisconsin. what's the latest on that front, joe? >> wolf, mitt romney arrived here in green bay just hours before the wisconsin primary with the biggest question being how he's going to handle what appears to be a significant problem with women voters. >> reporter: the latest usa today gallup swing poll shows that obama is leading romney by a wide margin, 54% to 36%. he didn't seem phased when i asked about the women voters, some say part of the problem may be the way the republican nomination race has forced all to the candidates including romney. the debate over the health care and contraception. >> planned parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. >> reporter: so far romney has been leaning on his wife. >> women are talking about jobs, women are talking about deficit spending, thank you women, we need you, we all need you in november too, we have to remember why we're upset and what we have got to do to fix things. >> reporter: the campaign sees ann romney's strong voice as a secret weapon. south carolina governor nikki haley who said she would not be romney's running mate. >> the more he puts nikki out there, the more we see that she is so strong. >> what do you think of the wife? those are so fluff issues. >> some of the other women we spoke to at the green bay event. >> i think he seems to be in touch on a lot of issues, concerned us and our business, so that's what brings me here today. >> among men voters, mitt romney and president obama are basically tied in that gallup poll. so if mitt romney gets the nomination, wolf, it certainly looks like he's going to have work cut out for him. >> a lot of work trying to narrow that gender gap. long after the cold war, there's a talk of a russian threat. and three osama bin laden's wives are sentenced today. all right, let's decide what to do about medicare and social security... security. that's what matters to me... me? i've been paying in all these years... years washington's been talking at us, but they never really listen... listen...it's not just some line item on a budget; it's what i'll have to live on... i live on branson street, and i have something to say... 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[ male announcer ] if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. let let's get back to the breaking news in oakland, california. henry, first of all, tell us where you are, what you're hearing, what information have you learned about this has killing out there. >> i'm standing in the parking lot of a safe way store in alame alameda, california. police have surrounded a parked silver honda that the suspect may have used to make his initial escape from the oakland religious school. they have detained him. this is the only suspect they're looking at, so the investigation is ongoing, including the motive. >> some have called it a university, some have called it a college, what exactly is it? >> i don't have the exact word yet on the -- oikos university says it has acupuncture classes and nursing classes. it is not known if this suspect is affiliate ed with the schooln any way. >> do we know what kind of weapon was used? >> i don't know what kind of weapon that was used. >> the suspect is in custody, right. >> no arrest has been formally made, but the suspected you're looking at has been detained, at least right now as a person of interest. >> as far as the campus is concerned, does it look like it's calming down? is there still a major police presence? are they evacuating people? >> initially police were seen and witnesses were seen screaming coming out of the building. there is a police presence, the s.w.a.t. team is still clearing the building. the police are there at the building for a very long time as well as here in alameda. >> you're saying the car that police are surrounding there is believed to be the car of the suspect, is that correct? >> reporter: that's correct, there might have been one or two involved. the initial vehicle might be still at the school, it might be an suv. and i'm looking at a parked silver honda in this parking lot so there might have been multiple vehicles used. >> in oak land, california, five people dead, several others were taken to hospital with injuries and it looks like the suspect as henry lee of the san francisco chronicle just told us is in custody. we'll stay on top of this story and update you when we get more information. let's move on to our strategy session, lots of political news to tell you about. we have dawna brazil our democratic strategist as well as republican strategist, ana lavar. it looks if romney gets the republican nomination, i assume you agree he probably will at this point, he's got a major problem in these battleground states, according to this usa today gallup poll with women voters, kbaobama is ahead of th 56% to 34%. we have been hearing about issues involving women. >> i'm glad this is coming out this early, it's a very bright red flag that's waving in the air, we have to pay attention to it, we haromney has to pay atte to it. we need to talk about issues that women are interested in, and it's the same as especially where in america -- i'm glad this is coming out early and i hope it leads to action from the romney campaign should he be the nominee. >> dawna, if you have taken a look closely, that romney is addressing women more, and he's saying the country's got to create more jobs, women need jobs, they need to get jobs to help their families, he's raising this issue much more assertively i believe. he's got a problem of potential disaster with women voters out there. >> he's alienating voters when women will determine the future of this country. and of course increasingly women are democratic. he's alienated women on not only reproductive health issues. women voters want somebody who understands kitchen table issues and ensuring that they have jobs in the future. i don't think mitt romney will be able to do the etch-a-sketch and get back to being the moderate that he really is. >> do you think if he wins the nomination, he is going to pivot back to the center and away from the far right? >> i think that's the keyword, pivot. i don't think in this news cycle we have, with youtube that whatever you say never dies. what he needs to do is start focusing on those priority issues. >> what if he's asked about these issues, birth control and these type of issues, how does he answer them. >> he answers them leaving wiggle room. he answers them in a tone that does not alienate women. tone matters in in debate. i think mitt r