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pastors, linda barnes popam, of the fern creek baptist church in louisville, kentucky, she has led her congregation for the last 30 years. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> why do you think this vote was so overwhelming, it was the thousand 700 to 806. >> well, i think that people who don't like to fight anymore don't attend southern baptist convention meetings, and i think that those in control have so much control over the southern baptist convention minds of people and over all the decisions that are made that they have finally just driven it to this point. the baptist faith and message was adopted in 2000 that said women shouldn't serve in these roles, but it's always been accepted that we follow any of the baptist faith and messages. we actually adhere to the 1963 baptist faith and message which
chair, mike turner, spoke to you. what did he say? >> reporter: we had a lengthy conversation with the chairman today, myself and a group of other reporters, and we pressed him on the idea of what he -- how he felt about the indictment of the former president, and he said that he's really concerned that the american public is going to view the biden situation and the trump situation in the same vein and that if the president isn't prosecuted, that would, to a certain degree, hurt the credibility of the justice department. when we pressed him on these very specific aspects of the case that are very different, the most obviously being the former president, according to the indictment had multiple opportunities to return the documents in question refused to do so or wasn't completely honest about that, and that's basically what led to the indictment, versus the situation with the current president biden who, according to what we have been told by his lawyers and those reporting on this he handed over the documents once he discovered that they were in his possession.
others. and that is just a few of the things done this session. the question is, how did you get that done? >> first and foremost, incredible legislators with a vision. and i think a recognition that when you look at this list of things, these are things which improve lives. while we are watching around the country, the shrinking of right, demonization of people, we are trying to figure out how we can reduce child poverty. the republicans keep talking about well, so many extreme things are happening. good luck making that case that women shouldn't make their own choices or that we should not feed our children in school, or should not get the land and chemicals out of our water. i think i make the case, jonathan, the minnesota miracle refers back to the 1970s, when minnesota kind of exploded onto the scene, fortune 500 companies, quality of life, great schools. it's a sad state of our political affairs that list of things you put on there should be viewed as a miracle, rather than just the things people are asking for. those are all very popular
companies we're seeing highlight someone of the opposite sex. >> trace: we've all noticed the same thing. she makes a very good point there, carry. >> yes, i love riley gains. she's a hero to so many young women. what we're seeing, trace, is a war on women playout in real-time. i'm a coach, softball coach of an all-star team right now for 12-year-old little girls, and i'm standing up for them because, you know what? they aren't going to have an opportunity if they have to compete against men. it is common sense 101, we all know science, and men are stronger than women, and so women shouldn't have to compete against men. this is a full-blown assault on women, and here at the battle cry we're saying full stop. we'll not tolerate this any longer. >> trace: most americans support what you're saying. target. the retail chain is now marketing pride-themed items for chin and newborns. gays against groomers tweeted the following. we urge you to take your
it. >> so, his words matter, the words of the republican leader that continue to prop him up matter and also juries matter. and the verdict last night, it's the second time that donald trump's been held accountable for his actions by a jury, right? a couple months ago, we had the indictment from the new york grand jury to indict him. now we've had a jury come back to say that he's liable for sexual abuse. and this does, even as republicans continue to prop him up, it does have an impact. first of all, for women to have this validation, finally, that when you say things as he did on the "access hollywood" tape, when that's part of a case against him in court for sexually abusing a woman, that matters and has an impact and women shouldn't be subjected to that. we have those rights, even as they continue to erode under a trump-led republican party. so i don't think that we should
is used very commonly in abortions in the us, as part of abortions in the us, as part of a two—drug reg then in over 50% of cases — will continue as it continued before. sojust to give a little bit of context there, in terms of whether people might feel, "well, what's all this debate been about?" there was a judge in texas, a federaljudge, who ruled that actually approval should be halted. but that never came into effect as it went up to an appeals court. the appeals court didn't agree with the halt, but did say that mifepristone should only be available to women up to seven weeks of pregnancy, rather than ten, and that women shouldn't be able to order it by mail. they'll have to go in person, rather than have tele—medicine appointments. that consideration then went up to the supreme court. the supreme court, for now, has said no to all of that. things remain as they are, so access remains as they are, so access remains as they have been in, of course, states in the us were abortion remains legal. but they've
explaining what we're doing. and love you to comment on that, first of all, but secondly, i'd like you to comment on the fact of how much damage the examples, for instance, of what we saw the 10-year-old girl raped in ohio that had to flee the state, the michigan gubernatorial candidate saying a 14-year-old girl being raped by her uncle was a perfect reason why there can't be exceptions. can you talk about how shrill and out of touch that is, not just with swing voters but republican voters in your district? >> right. well, now just this week, i believe it was the governor of alabama said women should be thrown in prison if they take an abortion pill. so plan b is something that 90% of americans support. women shouldn't be thrown in prison, neither should the doctor. one thing i have been harping on this week and for months now, if we're going to get serious about saving lives, serious about
believe that women shouldn't work outside the home? does that mean that no longer can a photographer that works for a newspaper take pictures of successful women in the workplace? they talked about that hypothetical at the court this morning. so this is such a slippery slope. and the court is going to do permanent and lasting damage because what they're doing is very, very unpopular with most americans and not for the wrong reasons. like it might have been back when they were making decisions on desegregation and civil rights. but rather, the decisions are unpopular with americans for the right reasons. and that is we should not discriminate in a country where all people are created equal. >> brian, i haven't had a chance to talk to you since the midterms were 60% of respondents in their first round of exit polls opposed dobbs and opposed the united states supreme court. the supreme court appears right
>> you just alluded to it in terms of tim ryan having to do it on his own. you look at the financial resources that were put into those campaigns. not only did tim ryan have to do it on his own because the democratic senate campaign committee thought that ohio's too red, he's not able to do it, but jd vance was able to tap the bank of peter thiel. just like blake masters in arizona, jd vance is his other candidate, with women shouldn't be allowed to vote and all the rest of it. it should have a lot of baggage attached, but the endless, bottomless checks he was able to tap from that weird billionaire class is, you can't say that's not going to determine it. >> he is seen as this fly-in candidate from silicon valley. he's not seen -- ryan has made himself, he's so ohio, and he's kind of dr. oz, jd vance. so that's an interesting race. >> trump picked him and then