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BBCNEWS The July 1, 2024



expected imminently. these are the live pictures from the general assembly. this was an emergency session brought by the arab countries after the united states vetoed a resolution on a cease—fire within the security council last week. tonight 193 countries voting on a similar text. it is a nonbinding resolution so it does not carry any legal weight but the result, which we expect to be in favour for the resolution will add to the pressure mounting on the israeli government. we will keep watching that. we will take you to new york as and when we get a vote in the assembly. back to events in westminster. the government has tonight seen off, at least for the moment, a rebellion that was building over its rwanda legislation. this is the new bill they have proposed that is supposed to counter every legal challenge to deporting asylum—seekers to rwanda. here's the moment the speaker announced the result. the ayes to the right, 313. the noes to the left, 269. so the ayes have it, the ayes have it. unlock! 313-269. 313—269. those on the right of the party say the legislation doesn't do enough to stop the boat crossing the chattel or the legal challenges to removing people opting to abstain tonight rather than vote against it. the conservative mp. we have decided collectively that we cannot support the bill tonight because of its many omissions. therefore, while it's down to every individual colleague ultimately to decide what to do, collectively we will not be supporting it. let's speak to our deputy political editor vicki young, who's at the house of commons. good to see you, vicki. it might be worth explaining to viewers joining us what the implication of the nights votes were in the dangers for rishi sunak. i nights votes were in the dangers for rishi sunak— rishi sunak. i think the dangers were huge _ rishi sunak. i think the dangers were huge because _ rishi sunak. i think the dangers were huge because he's - rishi sunak. i think the dangers were huge because he's got - rishi sunak. i think the dangers were huge because he's got sol rishi sunak. i think the dangers - were huge because he's got so much effort, money, capital into this very essential piece of policy. the idea that that could at this stage have been voted down would've been very undermined into his authority. he is thought it through with the majority of 1m. i think the threat is still there from some of those mps. they still want to see changes further down the line thatjeopardy still does exist for the batches of the house of commons, then it has to get through to the house of lords. still a lot of unhappiness on the tory side but no doubt the government will be delighted tonight they've got it through with a relative healthy majority. what does labour have to say about all this? yvette cooper is the shadow home secretary you are able to stand back and watch the tories fighting with each other, i suppose. if you get your way it will be you dealing with immigration. what is labours approach going to be to this? stronger border security and stronger— stronger border security and stronger action to fix the tories asylum — stronger action to fix the tories asylum chaos which is gotten worse and worse _ asylum chaos which is gotten worse and worse of the last few years. we've _ and worse of the last few years. we've seen over the last few days, the tory— we've seen over the last few days, the tory party civil war erupting with different groups taking lumps out of _ with different groups taking lumps out of each other. that chaos continue _ out of each other. that chaos continue it _ out of each other. that chaos continue it looks like it will continue _ continue it looks like it will continue into the new year. we also learned _ continue into the new year. we also learned that the costs of this failing — learned that the costs of this failing row on the plan look like they're — failing row on the plan look like they're going upwards to 400 billion, — they're going upwards to 400 billion, not even 300 million without— billion, not even 300 million without a _ billion, not even 300 million without a single asylum—seekers are being _ without a single asylum—seekers are being set— without a single asylum—seekers are being set for that —— 100 back n1iiiion~— being set for that —— 100 back mitiion to _ being set for that —— 100 back million. to the smuggler games, the criminal— million. to the smuggler games, the criminal smuggler games did gangs who are _ criminal smuggler games did gangs who are putting lives at risk. if we stop the _ who are putting lives at risk. if we stop the dangerous crossings and also have — stop the dangerous crossings and also have a new return unit to actually — also have a new return unit to actually reverse the 50% drop in returns — actually reverse the 50% drop in returns for — actually reverse the 50% drop in returns for people who don't have a i’i l ht returns for people who don't have a right to _ returns for people who don't have a right to he — returns for people who don't have a right to be here.— right to be here. government ministers _ right to be here. government ministers say _ right to be here. government ministers say they _ right to be here. government ministers say they are - right to be here. government| ministers say they are already right to be here. government- ministers say they are already doing all of these things. they've got a returns agreement for example with albania and that has brought down the number of people coming here from that country. you are offering nothing new and that is why they have been trying to come up with something different. they're not alone, there are other countries in europe to see this as a major problem and actually, this could be the answer for them too.— problem and actually, this could be the answer for them too. we've seen this problem — the answer for them too. we've seen this problem grow _ the answer for them too. we've seen this problem grow over _ the answer for them too. we've seen this problem grow over the _ the answer for them too. we've seen this problem grow over the last - the answer for them too. we've seen this problem grow over the last five i this problem grow over the last five years _ this problem grow over the last five years. we've seen the tories allowing _ years. we've seen the tories allowing criminal gangs to take hold along _ allowing criminal gangs to take hold along the _ allowing criminal gangs to take hold along the channel because they didnt— along the channel because they didn't do— along the channel because they didn't do the early work with france to stop _ didn't do the early work with france to stop the — didn't do the early work with france to stop the criminal gangs. they also preside of this collapse and home—office decision—making. that's what's _ home—office decision—making. that's what's ted _ home—office decision—making. that's what's ted to — home—office decision—making. that's what's led to the backlog soaring and 56,000 people in hotels with that we've got to have action to tackle _ that we've got to have action to tackle this _ that we've got to have action to tackle this that's why were calling for stronger action on border security, _ for stronger action on border security, also on returns clearing the backlog. we support the albania agreement, that's the right thing to do and _ agreement, that's the right thing to do and also smuggle work along the french— do and also smuggle work along the french coast but we have to go much further~ _ french coast but we have to go much further. really the government is not doing — further. really the government is not doing the basics, convictions of people _ not doing the basics, convictions of people smugglers have dropped by a third. _ people smugglers have dropped by a third, they cannot tell is that going — third, they cannot tell is that going after the criminal gangs because — going after the criminal gangs because those convictions have plummeted. that's why labour would setup _ plummeted. that's why labour would setup a _ plummeted. that's why labour would set up a new cross—border police unit to _ set up a new cross—border police unit to work— set up a new cross—border police unit to work with euro pole, other european — unit to work with euro pole, other european forces across europe to stop the _ european forces across europe to stop the supply chains, to stop those — stop the supply chains, to stop those boats making it to the french coast _ those boats making it to the french coast in _ those boats making it to the french coast in the — those boats making it to the french coast in the first place with a proper— coast in the first place with a proper cracked and we need. get a new security agreement in place of work cooperating, sharing proper intimations that you can move fast against _ intimations that you can move fast against those gangs.— intimations that you can move fast against those gangs. ministers say the are against those gangs. ministers say they are having — against those gangs. ministers say they are having disagreements - against those gangs. ministers say they are having disagreements but they are having disagreements but they are having disagreements but they are cooperating and they say they are cooperating and they say the idea of setting up a new unit is simply not going to be enough to solve this issue. are you concerned that some voters might think you don't have the answers to this? you not to don't have the answers to this? you got to have — don't have the answers to this? you got to have the _ don't have the answers to this? you got to have the additional police officers — got to have the additional police officers to be part of this unit. this— officers to be part of this unit. this is— officers to be part of this unit. this is about having the police able to do— this is about having the police able to do that — this is about having the police able to do that work, to have the security— to do that work, to have the security agreements in place and also to— security agreements in place and also to set— security agreements in place and also to set up a new returns unit. the returns — also to set up a new returns unit. the returns of those who don't have any money — the returns of those who don't have any money to be here, all sales asytum — any money to be here, all sales asylum cases who dropped by about 50% sense — asylum cases who dropped by about 50% sense the last labour government. that's a complete dereliction of duty in terms of making — dereliction of duty in terms of making sure the asylum system is property— making sure the asylum system is properly being enforced, making sure that is— properly being enforced, making sure that is fair— properly being enforced, making sure that is fairand properly being enforced, making sure that is fair and effective and instead _ that is fair and effective and instead that isn't happening. we've also got _ instead that isn't happening. we've also got this huge long delays, this coitause _ also got this huge long delays, this collapse and decision—making, the soaring _ collapse and decision—making, the soaring backlog to record highs. you've _ soaring backlog to record highs. you've got— soaring backlog to record highs. you've got to get the basics right. we set _ you've got to get the basics right. we set out... if this were wandered agreement to get off the ground, literally, you would still appeal it? , ., literally, you would still appeal it? , . , . ., , literally, you would still appeal it? ,., ,. it? the permanent secretary of the home office _ it? the permanent secretary of the home office himself _ it? the permanent secretary of the home office himself and _ it? the permanent secretary of the home office himself and said - it? the permanent secretary of the l home office himself and said there's no evidence of a deterrent effect. the reason — no evidence of a deterrent effect. the reason for that is even if the scheme — the reason for that is even if the scheme does start to work in terms of being _ scheme does start to work in terms of being able to send people is only iikeiy— of being able to send people is only likely to _ of being able to send people is only likely to cover around 1% or less of the people — likely to cover around 1% or less of the people who are currently in hotels, — the people who are currently in hotels, the people who have arrived in the _ hotels, the people who have arrived in the uk _ hotels, the people who have arrived in the uk in — hotels, the people who have arrived in the uk in the last year. in some figures _ in the uk in the last year. in some figures suggest it might be closer to not— figures suggest it might be closer to not put— figures suggest it might be closer to not put 1%. were talking about a tiny number— to not put 1%. were talking about a tiny number of people being covered try tiny number of people being covered by a scheme that's costing £400 million _ by a scheme that's costing £400 million of— by a scheme that's costing £400 million of taxpayer money. a scheme that's— million of taxpayer money. a scheme that's currently sent more home secretary— that's currently sent more home secretary is that asylums seekers to rwanda _ secretary is that asylums seekers to rwanda for the claiming to do one of these _ rwanda for the claiming to do one of these things and each time they make all these _ these things and each time they make all these promises, they set up a new law, — all these promises, they set up a new law, they make all these grand plans— new law, they make all these grand plans but _ new law, they make all these grand plans but it's always about gimmicks rather— plans but it's always about gimmicks rather than _ plans but it's always about gimmicks rather than getting a grip. there's a really— rather than getting a grip. there's a really practical sayings, and basic— a really practical sayings, and basic things you have to do to get a grip _ basic things you have to do to get a grip time — basic things you have to do to get a grip. time and again that too busy fighting _ grip. time and again that too busy fighting amongst themselves to actually get the basics sorted out. we're _ actually get the basics sorted out. we're to— actually get the basics sorted out. we're to be able to have a cross party _ we're to be able to have a cross party agreement on some of these basic— party agreement on some of these basic things about going after the games, _ basic things about going after the games, clearing the backlog, getting returns _ games, clearing the backlog, getting returns and plays and proper enforcement in place was they're not capable _ enforcement in place was they're not capable of— enforcement in place was they're not capable of doing that because they are too— capable of doing that because they are too busy taking lumps out of each _ are too busy taking lumps out of each other— are too busy taking lumps out of each other because they're more interested — each other because they're more interested in their own civil war than _ interested in their own civil war than they— interested in their own civil war than they are in actually tackling the problems and actually doing a fair deal— the problems and actually doing a fair deal for the country.— fair deal for the country. yvette coo er, fair deal for the country. yvette c00per. thank _ fair deal for the country. yvette cooper, thank you _ fair deal for the country. yvette cooper, thank you very - fair deal for the country. yvette cooper, thank you very much. l fair deal for the country. yvette i cooper, thank you very much. the views from the shadow home secretary. the conservatives would argue to my have managed to speak with one voice on theirs. but it's not necessarily the case that it will stay the same over the next few months. ., ., ., ., ., months. no, long road ahead for the prime minister. _ no, long road ahead for the prime minister. let's speak to whitehall editor at the financial times and host of the ft�*s political fix podcast, lucy fisher. they spoke with one voice today but there's been a lot of arm—twisting in the background, the breakfast this morning at 10 downing street, graham stewart the climate minister is supposed to be in dubai negotiating a cop28 was flown home to vote it was so tight.— to vote it was so tight. that's ri . ht. i to vote it was so tight. that's right. ithink— to vote it was so tight. that's right. i think we've _ to vote it was so tight. that's right. i think we've seen - to vote it was so tight. that's right. i think we've seen a . to vote it was so tight. that'sl right. i think we've seen a day to vote it was so tight. that's . right. i think we've seen a day of high drama in west minister that is frankly laid bare the divisions in the conservative party for that although rishi sunak has avoided a significant rebellion, the threat of their feet at this early stage of their feet at this early stage of the bill today is still facing trouble in the new year for that and when this comes back for the third reading. you mentioned how close those in government thought it would come to the wire, the fact that they cancelled all approvals for mps to be away from the commons barring the very minimum few. mps, not only graham stewart but also foreign affairs committees were told to cut short trips and fly back early from qatar. beyond that you've also heard mps, particularly on the right of the party accused the government of using dark art tactics of threatening consequences to those thinking of rebelling against this bill. those close to the webs office denied that anyone was threatened with using a party whip. you have had the sense of turmoil in solving the conservative party that i think really paints a negative picture bar at the public and indeed i was smoking too many mps despairing at what they see is irreconcilable differences —— spoken to many mps. they cannot see how rishi sunak can move forward on this. it they cannot see how rishi sunak can move forward on this.— move forward on this. it felt like the old brexit _ move forward on this. it felt like the old brexit debate. _ move forward on this. it felt like the old brexit debate. those - move forward on this. it felt like | the old brexit debate. those sort of implications for the prime minister. a lot of it come down to the language used at the breakfast meeting this morning. some interpreted bears word, tightening the build to meanings prepared to move with the others saying that actually, there wouldn't be much wiggle room at all. where do you think the government is tonight in terms of the amendments that might come at the third reading? i terms of the amendments that might come at the third reading?— come at the third reading? i think ou are come at the third reading? i think you are absolutely _ come at the third reading? i think you are absolutely right, - come at the third reading? i think you are absolutely right, there's i come at the third reading? i think| you are absolutely right, there's a lot of interpretive work being done on this word "tightening". i spoke to torres who are very doubtful that sunak is gonna bring forward amendments. do you notice he didn't use amendment during this breakfast this morning. last week at the emergency press conference he called on thursday morning, he said that the bill was as far as he was prepared to go in terms of pushing the envelope regarding uk's commitment to international obligations. one tory mp voted today, which version of rishi sunak was telling the truth? the version of sunak last week was at this as

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