extend their truce another day? that and a new report from "the new york times" that israel actually knew the plan for the hamas attack more than a year before it happened. plus indicted congressman george santos could be out of a job in just hours from now. and now he's threatening to take down his own colleagues if expelled from the house. and racism, hazing, sexual assault. what top ranking military officials have been concealing from the public for years. we expose a coast guard cover-up right here tonight. i'm pamela brown, and this is "the source." ♪ and good evening to you. kaitlan is off tonight. just three hours from another truce deadline, what could be the end of the pause in fighting between israel and hamas. negotiations going down right to the wire once again on this seventh day of the truce, as a seventh group of hostages were freed and are now safely back in israel. only eight hostages released in this handover. israel and hamas agreed to count the two extra israeli russian hostages released yesterday as part of the ten required in this deal. there are significant questions about whether this deal can survive another extension. negotiators initially believed hamas wouldn't likely be able to offer more women and children to stretch the pause beyond an eighth day. and meanwhile, there is a major story tonight from "the new york times," also reported by israeli media, that israeli officials had the battle plan for the hamas attack more than a year before it happened. but the israelis largely dismissed it as aspirational, considering it too difficult the record hamas to carry out. i want to start with cnn's oren liebermann who is live for us in tel aviv tonight. oren, let's start with the truce. it expires in less than three hours from now. what are you hearing from your sources in israel about what will happen next? >> pam, it is just after 4:00 in the morning here, so there are three hours until this truce is set to expire. with no announcement from any of the sides here, underneath israel, hamas, nor from qatar, which has led the negotiations, that there is a deal in place to continue this at least for another 24 hours. it has been qatar that has made many of the critical announcements, saying it will continue, that there will be more hostages released. we haven't seen that announcement yet. the idf has said they're ready to continue operations as soon as the order is given. we expect that order would come shortly after 7:00 in the morning, unless hamas announces they are ready to release ten more israeli women and children. we haven't heard from the political echelon here about where those negotiations stand. we know they are ongoing. secretary of state antony blinken was here and continues to be here, but spoke and said that the need for a continued pause is critical, not only to allow the release of more hostages but also for more humanitarian aid to go through. he also said before israel launches the second phase of its offensive in gaza, it needs to have a plan for both humanitarian aid and a plan to reduce civilian casualties in gaza. that's been a major concern of the u.s. and the international community. crucially we are simply watching the clock. last night this went down to the final few minutes, when hamas produced a list that was acceptable to israel. as our colleagues have reported, including alex marquardt and mj lee, hamas produced two lists that were unacceptable to israel. it's unclear if we're in the same back and forth right now. this will very much go down to the wire, pam. we will absolutely keep an eye on it to see if this war restarts in just three hours now. >> really getting right down to it, as before. thank you so much, oren. appreciate it. i want to go to "the new york times" reporting, as well, that israel obtained hamas' attack plan more than a year ago. it has also been reported in israeli media. and "the times" reports that a veteran analyst warned hamas conducted a training exercise similar to what was outlined in those plans. i want to bring in our alex marquardt on this, our chief national security correspondent. you know, this "new york times" article really lays out all the warning signs from this pamphlet that the israeli intelligence officials had received. would the u.s. intelligence have been aware of this? >> it is possible, pam. they obviously have such a close intelligence-sharing relationship. this "new york times" article, which just has some extraordinary warnings about this document, they nicknamed the plan, jericho wall. it ended up being hamas' phrasing for it was the al aqsa flood. you had this character in this piece, a female analyst, who warned that this was a plan designed to start a war. she said, it's not just a raid on a village. and her officer, a colonel, ignored that. this was military intelligence. so, it is very possible that it was shared with the u.s. side, which would be the defense intelligence agency, which is the pentagon. this "times" article is also saying this may not have been shared with the highest levels of political leadership in israel. so, it likely was not shared with the highest level of u.s. intelligence leadership either. but we did see some warnings both from israel and from the u.s. that we've reported on in the days before this horrific set of attacks on october 7th. but essentially they weren't taken seriously. and what it's being called is not only an intelligence failure but a lack of imagination. the u.s. and others thought that hamas could do something, but if they did something, it would be rockets fired across the border that might get intercepted by the iron dome, but certainly not that hamas would be able to break out of gaza and carry out this kind of attack. the u.s., since october 7th, has made clear they view this very much as an israeli intelligence failure. hamas is not a major focus. >> it's interesting that in this reporting that the view from some top officials in israeli intelligence and defense was that it was aspirational, they wouldn't be able to pull this off. but you see some of the hamas, the go pro video they had, just waltzing across the border essentially unobstructed, without really anyone there to stop them. so, it really raises the question of why they were able to do that and why israeli officials thought that it was so aspirational. you know, you heard oren talk about the produce that could end in a few hours. i want to talk about that now because you have been extensively reporting on, sort of, why it has been going down to the wire. what can you tell us about what is going on right now? >> reporter: it really could go either way. we've got less than three hours before this deal expires. and the ball really is in hamas' court. israel has made clear that they will continue this pause if hamas is able to come up with ten more women and children. the u.s. and qatar, which are the center of these negotiations, they want to see this pause continue. but hamas really does have to release more hostages. oren referenced the list that had been rejected by israel last night. that's because they didn't include only women and children. they had some dead bodies, of which we believe there could be a significant number that hamas has. another list included elderly men. but israel is saying, you have to give us all the women and children. so, there's a lot of focus on what happens tonight. if they come up with a list of ten women and children, we'll see this pause extended by another day. but the u.s. definitely wants to expand the conversation to include some of the men that they have, to include the israeli soldiers that they have. so, even if tomorrow goes smoothly and another ten are released, we're getting into possibly another chapter, where negotiations will have to start over the next categories. and in the meantime, if those negotiations -- if the releases stall, we could see the military operation via israel start back up again. that could happen, if not tonight, then certainly in the coming days. >> the big question, if it starts back up again, we heard what antony blinken has been urging, to limit the civilian casualties. i now want to bring in the former israeli ambassador to the united states, michael oren. i want to start with this new reporting that we were just reporting with alex from "the new york times." what does this mean to the people of israel, if as "the new york times" is reporting that the government knew about the hamas attack plan more than a year ago? >> well, good to be with you, olivia. it was that the army knew. we don't know how high up the chain of command that information went. but it's part of an investigation that will follow this war, and it'll be a very thorough and far-reaching investigation. and everybody will be investigated, including the military, including the government echelon. clearly there was an intelligence failure here of a magnitude of october 1973 at the outset of yom kippur war, when there were warnings and those warnings weren't taken seriously. personally speaking, i was in the government and i was involved in the gaza issue. we all thought that, you know, hamas wore two hats. it, sort of, wore a terrorist hat but it also wore a government's hat. it was the defacto governance of gaza. and that hamas could be incentivized to wear the governance hat more than the terrorist hat by giving them a lot of qatari money -- a lot of money -- plus allowing about 20,000 gazan workers into israel every day to work. that gives hamas something to lose. so, it wasn't just that people in the government were, sort of, underestimating the military prowess of hamas, but really thinking that hamas could be induced, be something else than what it was, which is a terrorist organization. >> well, and i -- you were right to state that we don't know if the whole of government of israel knew. "the times" says it is uncertain, this reporting could not indicate whether netanyahu knew or not. wouldn't that be a failure in and of itself for something like this to not go up to the highest levels. according to "the times" you have an analyst raising the alarm bells saying, we're seeing hamas fighters training exercises that match exactly what is in this blueprint that we have. they're using the same words that are in this blueprint. why wouldn't that have gone up to the top levels of the government? >> well, again, i can say, as someone who spent a lot of time in the military and a lot of time in government, you get a lot of warnings of this nature in israel. we are in a terrible neighborhood and surrounded by enemies on all sides. so, warnings are coming in every day and frankly all night. and there's a lot of fog, and you have to see through the fog and see, okay, what is the real threat here. it's not always easy. this is not to exonerate or to give anybody -- clearly there was a serious intelligence failure here. but just to give you a sense of the complexity of these issues. i must say also i'm a little disturbed by this report, not just because of what it says about the intelligence failure. but it seems to me already part of the -- i don't know, sort of, the political back and forth about who is going to be responsible for this intelligence failure, whether it's going to be the government or the military. obviously someone gave this report to "the new york times," and i have to ask, what is the motivation of the person who did so. >> that aside, it is important reporting to understand what was known, what wasn't known, before this horrific attack on october 7th. i want to talk to you about moving forward, as we look at these next few hours. we don't know if this truce is going to hold, right? it is right down to the wire. so, that means that israeli military operations could start back up right after. the biden administration has urged israel to be more surgical with its military operations once the truce ends to limit civilian deaths. so far the hamas controlled palestinian health ministry says more than 14,000 civilians have died, many of them women and children. here's what secretary of state antony blinken said today. let's listen. >> before israel resumes major military operations, it must put in place humanitarian civilian protection plans that minimize further casualties of innocent palestinians. clearly and precisely designating areas and places in southern and central gaza where they can be safe and out of the line of fire. >> do you expect israel to be receptive to these demands? >> i think israel's always been receptive to these demands and they don't even have to be made as a demand. israel, both on the moral plain, we have no interest in causing deaths of palestinian civilians. but on the strategic level. the more palestinians that are hurt by the fact they serve as human shields by hamas, that creates political pressures on us to agree to a ceasefire. it's actually a boomerang. and a ceasefire wins hamas wins. it means hamas gets away with mass murder. it means 250,000 israelis can't go back to their homes because they've been removed from those homes. they wouldn't go back to their homes if hamas can organize and launch further strikes. and that's what hamas has said they're going to do. it is not in israel's strategic interest to increase the number of palestinian casualties. israel will do its utmost to limit casualties, but it's going to be difficult because hamas is going to continue to hide behind them and use them as human shields. at the end of the day, we're fighting a vicious enemy who doesn't care anything of the lives of palestinians, nothing. >> but -- i -- so you say israel has been receptive to u.s. demands. but clearly the biden administration doesn't believe it's been receptive enough or has been following it enough. and we know that per what the idf has said and testimony that they have been using dumb bombs, which they say is to get to the tunnels there in gaza, that hamas uses. dumb bombs, though, are more indiscriminate. they kill more people. they're not surgical. so, clearly the biden administration believes that it could be doing more to limit those civilian deaths. and do you worry that israel's mission to destroy hamas in the way that it is carrying this out with more than 14,000 deaths could actually backfire by, you know, radicalizing more people to sympathize with hamas and then join its ranks? >> well, let me just take issue with the 14,000. that's put out by hamas. let's be very straight about that. hamas routinely inflates its numbers. we know that. we know they conflate the number of palestinian terrorists who have been killed in that number, as well as the significant number of palestinians who have been killed by palestinian rockets that fall short. about 30% of their rockets fall short and fall on palestinian neighborhoods. we all remember what happened to the hospital several weeks ago. so, yes, any casualty, doesn't matter what the number, civilian casualties, are too many. and it's in israel's interest morally and strategically to limit that. keep in mind, we're deal being a densely populated and densely built up area, and hamas is under that area, over 300 miles of tunnels. you imagine what this is like for a military to try to remove that threat. at the end of the day, israel has to remove that threat. we cannot live as a country, and we will have to make some very difficult choices about the hostages. i don't know how long these truces can go on. we are trying our best to get as many women and children out of the hands of hamas. but at the end of the day, let's be clear. hamas will not give up all the hostages. the hostages are the get out of gaza free card for the hamas, and they know that once they give up the last of those hostages, israel then could flood those tunnels. it could set those tunnels afire. they can't do that as long as there are hostages there. perhaps we could reach a situation where -- please, go ahead. >> go ahead, no. you were talking about the hostages. i want to follow up on that. hamas released this video of yarden bee bass today. he is the father of a 4-year-old and 10-month-old. and just yesterday hamas claimed without any evidence that the boys and their mother were killed by an israeli air strike. cnn has no evidence of their deaths or the air strike that hamas is claiming. we are not showing the video of yarden, but we do have an image from it that we have showed. that image, in this video, it shows yarden begging israeli officials to bring him and his family home. what video does this have on the families of the hostages? >> it's not the video, it's the whole story of the family. . it has become emblematic for the israelis in general. orange balloons, that's a reference to the red-headed children here. and we don't know, we can't know, we can't verify, whether hamas' claims that most of the family, except for the young woman, young girl, has been killed. we know in the past that hamas has said that hostages have been killed. we found the bodies of two women who allegedly, according to hamas, had been killed by an israeli air strike. but forensic evidence showed they were alive and had been executed by hamas. so, we don't know. but olivia, if i could, i don't think i responded to your question. and i wanted to get to it. will israel will risking creating another generation of terrorists through its military activities in gaza? shall i answer that? >> yes, go for it. we'll make time. >> go for it. okay. thank you. because it's an important point and it comes out often. it simply is this. first of all, if every time a country went to war against an evil enemy, united states and world war ii thought it would create more nazis by destroying nazi germany, then united states would never have gone to war against nazi germany. and every time we've gone to war in the middle east, and we've gone to war quite frequently since our founding in 1948, yes, we risk creating another generation of terrorists. but we have no option, of course. this is our option we have to live. but the opposite, the positive side of this whole process is that every once in a while, people in the middle east will internalize that war is not the way. you could get an -- egypt, egypt made war against us four times, wars of national destruction. jordan made war twice, wars of national destruction. and king hussein internalized this wasn't the way, and we made peace. and we made the peace with four arab countries who are part of the abraham accords. so, it's not true that continued war is always going to create generations that want to wage war. some generations will wake up and say, you know, maybe this is not the way to get a better future for our children and grandchildren. and that's the hope here. at the same time, we're going to have to continue to defend ourselves. >> all right. michael oren, thank you for coming on to offer your perspective and analysis. another long-awaiting reunion caught on camera. an israeli mother finally coming home to her husband and daughter she saved from being kidnapped nearly eight weeks ago. her cousin is with us up next. plus indicted congressman george santos defying calls once again to resign on the eve of another vote to expel him. and claiming he is being bullied out of congress. tonight we are learning more about newly released hostage yarden roman gat. family saved from hamas when they were kidnapped on october 7th, after they all jumped out of a car headed to gaza, yarden handed their 3-year-old daughter to run. they escaped. yarden did not. that was the last time they saw her until now. more than 54 days later, they are finally together again. >> hi! >> it was beautiful to see that reunion. maya roman, yarden's cousin, was also at the hospital, is here with us. you were there to welcome her back. we should note. maya, it is so emotional.