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for poland was kidnapped by hamas at the nova music festival october 7. and now his mom and dad are back in washington in studio with a message for the world's leading this hour, so many americans are wondering just how safe air travel is as we keep hearing flight controls getting jammed as pilots try to land or an entire piece of a plane billowing out mid-flight. today, we're hearing from a boeing whistleblower, a former senior manager at the company you said on cnn that the manufacturing at boeing is rushed and employees are under pressure to get planes in the air. whistleblower ed pearson also slammed boeing leadership calling the ceo david calhoun greedy and invasive. pearson is so concerned he won't even fly on boeing, max planes anymore i did four a plane and i actually had to get off the plane when i found out it was a max and that's a terrible thing. >> they have to say to somebody that worked for boeing calhoun was supposed to address some of those concerns and his company's overall safety record in a hearing on capitol hill yesterday. instead, calhoun faced intense questioning after saying he was proud of boeing's safety culture for the american people, they're in danger for your workers. they're in peril for your whistleblowers. they literally fear for their lives, but you're getting compensated like never before, don't you think maybe your priorities are misplaced here? i mean, don't you think maybe it's time to get back to focusing on making quality planes. and paying your workers well, and taking care of the little guys who got you to where you are that's not a rhetorical question. >> senator i don't recognize any of the boeing you described that was missouri republican senator josh hawley, who joins me now senator, did you get any satisfying answers from boeing yesterday? >> no, not at all, jake, it was a whole bunch of why he's not responsible. you had calhoun sitting there. he's making $33 million a year. >> that is a 45% increase over last year and it was all about how he wasn't responsible, get all he's doing, everything he can oh, he'll do better. >> his planes are literally falling out the sky in pieces. he's paying his workers in many cases next to nothing, they haven't had a way of wage increase in 16 years and yet he has no answers and wants to shift the blame. it's totally unacceptable. so calhoun insisted that the company is committed to safety. >> he said he listens to employees. what's your response to that? >> well, he said that he hasn't even sat down with the whistleblowers, jake. how about that? we've had numerous whistleblowers come to the senate. they've testified under oath that they had been raising safety and quality concerns for years. these are engineers now, they testified that they'd been reassigned. they'd been ignored. they've been threatened and sometimes bullied physically and this guy admits under oath yesterday, the ceo, he hasn't even met with them. >> i mean, come on. this is a farce and he knows that he's just there to collect a paycheck. >> so when yesterday's testimony on the subject of that paycheck, you got them to acknowledge his $32.8 million salary. now as a conservative, i don't expect you would support legislation that would specifically impact how much a ceo makes. but what do you think is the role of the government when it comes to how much a ceo mage, how much its employees make a deprived the deprived any, sort of raise and in several years, as you noted, like, what is the role of government in that well, let me give you one example. >> senator elizabeth warren and i offered a bill author to build together on executive claw backs for companies who take these big loans from banks and then fail and make off with the profits. and what we said that bill is listed you come in and you take government handouts you take bank bailouts, and then your bank goes under. you ought to give back all of your executive compensation from the last five years. i think we need to send a message to corporate america that it's not write that guys like calhoun are making 33 million when the 32,000 machinist, jake who worked for him in the civic northwest, haven't gotten a significant pay raise in 16 years, you know, it's interesting because there's this next-generation of republican leaders like you and senator vance from ohio and senator rubio from florida who sound different when you talk about ceos, then maybe you're bads or granddad, republican party. is that a fair observation? >> well, i hope so. i mean, i hope that's right. i mean, i think this is something that frankly both parties have gotten wrong in the last 30, 40 years. and what i mean by that is we've watched jobs go overseas. we've watched blue collar workers lose their jobs, lose their pay, lose the ability to support a family. jake, we can't have an economy where yeah. you got you got a guy who can make pretty 3 million a year, who's not even an engineer, calhoun's not even an engineer. while the folks who actually are supporting this company on their backs are making next to nothing. i mean, that that's just not right and you cannot build and sustain a great nation on that kind of an economy. we need to put working people first, given the complexities of the industry and the landscape for production globally what, what realistically can the us senate do to make it so boeing and other plane manufacturers are not only reliable, but transparent well, i tell you one thing that i've talked about with calhoun, with the ceo is this boeing used to jake manufacturer almost all of their planes themselves and house. now they have over 600 separate suppliers probably hundreds of more subcontractors worldwide, including many, many in china. i think that we've got to make clear to these guys. you need to bring that production back home. if that means tariffs on the parts that are made overseas, we should do that. if that means that we have tax incentives to make sure they actually make things in this country and pay their workers well, we should do that but i think the message to corporate america needs to be this era of offshoring and outsourcing. look where it leads it ends with planes falling out of the sky. that's where it ends. it ends with workers in this country not able to make ends meet. we've got to change all of the above so one whistleblower spoke to that who spoke to the committee alleges that boeing has been using subpar parts and actually lied to the faa about it. >> do you expect that person to testifying publicly at some point when might we expect that at what might we hear? i hope so, jake, i hope soon and listen if that in fact, if that testimony comes to be, it will be of a piece with testimony, public testimony. we've already heard from engineers who say that the 787 the 777 and other boeing components are not necessarily safe, less than we had a top quality engineer testified to us in april that he be very reluctant to get on a boeing airplane right now because so many corners have been cut and here's the thing. they deal with the guy like calhoun, the ceo is this. he's getting paid to do exactly what he is doing which is to cut corners, to squeeze profits everywhere he can to get his margins. and if that means that the planes are unsafe, hey, at least he's getting paid, right? that's what needs to change at boeing. they don't have a culture problem with their employees. they've got a culture problem in the c-suite and that's what needs to happen, that needs to change missouri republican senator josh totally thanks for your time today thank you and we should note that the lead reached down to boeing for comment after its ipo testified the company responded saying it did not have anything else to add we're going to have a major update to a lead exclusive that's just in the biden administration is bringing back a program for goldstar families that was shut down nine years ago. a program restored because of a segment that aired right here on this show. a couple of weeks ago on the 80th anniversary of d-day, we told you the story of ron de elliott, a goldstar daughter her father, corporal frank elliot, was killed during the normandy invasion. now for decades, rhonda and other goldstar families were able to call on the american battlefield monuments commission or a bmc to place flowers, flowers at the family's paid for themselves on the graves of their loved ones in the cemetery series oversees such as in normandy, it meant so much to them this is my father's ghraieb in normandy with flowers people walk into the cemeteries, they see these flowers and they know that there's somebody at home that's still cares about that soldier nine years ago presumably for cost reasons, the a bmc shutdown that program. >> retired marine corps general john kelly had goldstar dad himself first told us about this program being shut down i think it's minimal cost to the government, minimal work for the government. i suppose who some administrative costs and the battle monuments, but i can't imagine very much it even if it was a lot i've been they did give their lives for the country, but it just doesn't seem to me that steck much work and even if it was a lot of work i mean, just consider the sacrifice that was a lot of work to today because of our report, a couple of weeks ago, we can now report that this flower program for goldstar families is going to be re-established at the a bmc, a white house official tells cnn quip, the white house saw jake tapper is reporting on goldstar families fighting to restore the program, honoring their fall loved ones because of how deep and personal all this is to the president. >> the white house active quickly with white house chief of staff, jeff zients, directing the team to get the program running unquote the white house is working with the a bmc to get the flour program back online as quickly as possible. the white house cautions that it will take some time to do so 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reporter alex thompson this new reporting, some influential top democrats warn that this is a losing strategy. i want to bring into corresponding to cover national politics, including alex thompson of axios, as well as cnn's even mckinnon so explain this. i mean, you know, as they say the call's coming from inside the house, the the the who, who and biden world is driving the strategy and whose dissenting. >> so the main people they're driving the strategy or the president himself, you've seen whenever he gives democracy speeches, he has little extra oomph, a little extra perkin step. >> he really season itself as this bulwark for democracy. but the other main person in this is mike donlan, who has been with him since 1981. they basically have this mine melt and mcdonald's has argued that basically january 6 is equivalent to what 911 was during the 2004 election, which she also worked on. and he basically feels that the dominant met images in people's minds it's when they go to vote in november is going to january 6, but increasingly, especially as the biden campaign has been spending a ton of money has been ranking up their staff and the pull numbers have gone nowhere. >> there's increasing skepticism that this is the strategy that will work and including among biden people themselves. >> but there's sort of a culture within the biden world that's very insular blur, that makes some people scared to bring it up because they're scared of being labeled as being disloyal or not on the team and eva as biden and trevor drawing more attention, robert kennedy juniors, of course, trying to get ballot access in more states tell us more about that. so he's on the ballot in seven states. he submitted signatures for 23 and total and those still have to work their way through the process. the most consequential state where he's on the ballot of the seven, is michigan it is a swing-state. he got on the ballot there through a relatively easy process, through a minor party called the natural law party. and that is also helpful because even though he's an independent candidate, that party, since they've run candidates in the past they can advise him in certain ways about how to basically how to engage in this process as a minor party candidate in 2020, president biden won that state by just about 150,000 votes in 2016, hillary clinton lost it by 10,000 votes. i was in detroit over the weekend at the hyper maga turning point action convention. but what surprised me, these were by and large trump supporters was that some of them in detroit, from detroit detroit suburbs. they voted for trump in 2016 and 2020, but previously, some of these for these auto workers, previously voted for democrats like used to vote for president obama and so that tells me that democrats have a branding issue in certain parts of michigan and kennedy is really taking advantage of that. he no longer distance himself on the democratic party. he taxed to the right on a number of policy issues and he could still appeal to some of these disaffected voters yeah. >> and that's a must-win state for biden me if he loses michigan, it's hard to imagine that he becomes president it's incredibly consequential and they recognize that, and that's why they are doing outreach there as well, specifically to black voters in the state. yeah, they called the blue wall for a reason, right? yeah. >> alex, you also spoke to democratic strategists regarding biden's preparations for next week, a week from tomorrow. tell us about that. >> it's the highest stakes cram session. i'm probably since he was in college. i mean, this is this is he's been incredibly busy on the campaign trail doing fundraisers. he went to europe twice going back and forth, and essentially, what you're going to see is that he is going to be down for most of this next week and he is going to be preparing and trying to it's sort of an old rule that incumbent presidents do terrible on their first debate when they get 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