and all of her treasured photographs. but months later, a miracle. there was a craigslist post from a stranger over 50 miles away who had found a photograph in their yard. it was a picture sucked up by the tornado. a baby photo of amber. the only one to survive. the woman mailed it back to amber along with $5, all she could afford, but wanted to give to help amber start her life over. for more information on what you can do in a tornado and what you can do to help combat the growing climate crisis, go to cnn.com/violentearth. i'm liev schreiber. thanks for watching. good night. 'm very excited about our first guest and michelle, let's get right to it. >> i know why you're happy. it's summer, it's the first day of summer, wasn't siding summer what a week, summer today, wednesday, we celebrate juneteenth. was juneteenth was celebration end of slavery in america and ironically, the only person who party too hard was justin timberlake we've all been there. i've gotten a dui come on. it's not the worst thing in the rubble. yeah, he was the rule is long island got a dui. interesting excuse. he said he's bringing taxi back right on cue, right with the summer, we have a heat dome. they basically heat wave, i guess, same thing, but kids after rename member, they get to it to heat dome now. okay. well it's it's hot out there. that's the weather service is asking the elderly and the vulnerable to campaign for president indoors it is really hot out. there or do haters are protesting without the mask that's boy lindsey graham was squirting his face with a mr. mr mr. cool, i don't know it's so hot people are standing next to biden hoping no freeze up we're going to talk about that tonight on the panel. >> we're going to show it so you can decide for yourself, this is a big issue. now, cheap fakes, you heard that what they called cheap fakes, where they show biden, they're not doctored, but they are edited to make him look like he's a doddering old fool and that he freezes up and that's the difference between trump and biden. it's an embarrassing video for biden when he's not talking but all eyes are on next thursday, six weeks from six weeks, six days from today. this is unprecedented, is the first presidential debate using they're not till relax well we're more optimistic than i what i mean, it's usually don't have them until october, september the earliest, but this time they looked at the actuarial tables they said, let's get this show on the road. these, debates these debates are going to be a little different. >> there are rules for the first time. >> wow, we have rules like they're going to cut off the mic when you're not talking and, you know, huddling in in the breaks and it's 90 minutes with two commercial breaks there were going over the rules. biden said, can i go to the bathroom during the bait? and they said, no, you can't leave the stage and biden said, that's not what i asked danon the louisiana, they are now putting the tendon can madmen in the schools trump said, i loved the ten commandments they should be in the public schools, in the private schools, i got a better idea instead of ten commandments just put out a picture of donald trump. kids don't be like that this is a terrible news, actually are two biggest enemies in the world vladimir putin and kim jong un. they had a big love fest in north korea this week wow, this is not good news that gave each other gifts. putin gave kim a limousine and kim gave putin to dogs. and putin said, what do you call them? and kim said breakfast and lunch i've got a great show we have andrew cuomo, former govern new york, adam kinzinger, former republican first up i'm so excited for years. >> i've interviewed authors out here in our opening one-on-one interview spot. but now i find myself in the position of being the author rebook on the bestseller list i can interview myself. i needed someone to interview me. and we are so lucky tonight. we have a master, perhaps the master of the art forum, ladies and gentlemen, gemini glick you i guess. i'll tell this is going to be like, i'm used to interviewing celebrities. >> this the nice to me on time. sorry, i well, i'm an author in this space that's exciting excited. >> i turned off and you wonderful. i really, your timeless, your skin is so youthful i'm not saying it's firm. i'm saying its youthful yeah. >> that tell you the kylie jenner lip plumper and your wonderful shape fill someone who's let himself go you. >> looking male. marjorie taylor greene, really in other words, marjorie taylor greene so you're doing. >> political stuff is interesting. so get your smile, right yet for me, bells smile for me your smiles. like an email from grandma, all caps but i want to get to this book and i loved this book thank you so much. i haven't read it read it, cover and cover but nothing inside. >> word gets back. it's still light to top it is. yeah. really enjoyed i didn't really yeah. >> you're one of the few people that richard simmons, we'll talk to. >> is he okay dan part again i don't know. i've seen him on tmz and so forth. he seems like he's okay that people who know i'm seeing so he just wanted to take enough want to get back to this wonderful book. >> and as an author is this how you build births, see yourself go berserk, different convenient, entirely god, your bill maher, you know the combo of weed and chief anyway my cloners not so happy. >> well, belmonte are happy, belated. father's day. and i am excited i'm fine. >> i know you have four children. >> i have marghidan mason, matthew, and mood de, right? i i umbrella way. >> i was reading up on you to not that i don't know everything about you because you are a big celebrity, but thank you. i saw in your work a pdf page that you lost your virginity when you fell into a bar boy the judge and here's the thing. >> there's a few things i want to ask about this book of yours, because i love it. not that i've read in, but i love it. but everyone seems to love your book. but why trash harriet tubman no that's not in there. it's not in there are no, no well, my assistant is rarely one, but your book is a triumph when you owe it success to low expectation really how, does it feel to dominate a dying medium well, that's really interesting point. >> you grew up but you bring up because it is toughen that in today's world to get people to read because people would just not readers anymore. so i was very gratified that this should did so well was number one on the best toggle list a couple of weeks ago? staying on their people for years what do you think this is really interesting? >> anything to write a book? >> yes, it is to conquer a field because not many people next you'll probably get a deal with blockbuster video opinion. i loved the because i've always loved bill meds and pinion thank opinions about the whole covid thing. i always loved getting my medical advice from a club act a little bit, just study medical center. >> if you really want to get into that, i mean, we see now that we've couple of years have passed it so many the things they said were wrong there now, even the new york times now is saying that they started in the lab, that it was not from the wet markets. what do you think about that? what i didn't i wasn't listening but i. would call you see you, this is what i think you'd bill. i think i think you're renaissance man i mean, i'm looking at your notes. you are a talk show host if you're an author, yeah. >> sure. >> well, that's the whole list awesome. >> stand-up comedy wonderful things because you're still with opinions. >> or their topics for you that are off-limits other than for plight what that's a great question, jodi. good question about if people asked me, i would say only things that are boring. you know, i mean, i don't stay away from anything because it's didn't your glare that you get you going really clear everything up for what you're saying because it was interesting something about who your approach to yeah. well, you're asking me with anything is off limits and i always say nothing is off limits unless every the left sorry yes my down their hair. it's turning purple for a reason you. >> in the jacuzzi dot i'm. sorry go back. i know. >> trig by virtue here. >> i want to hear no, no. >> interesting. well, i'm glad you think that because i know you have interviewed like all the biggest stars in the world. i remember when you had as you called him, tom hank wonderful. yeah. >> i said to steven spielberg, winning, you get to do the big one that connects with the people i want to get. >> i want to talk to you about because it's this seems like a random conversation, but i think it's important question what's the oddest thing you've accidentally dropped into the toilet mine was a whole rotisserie chicken once and i don't know what about that. i want to know i want to know about the real know about the real bill maher. i want to know your personal journey. i want to know, but not too much detail because they don't really care, but other than l ron hubbard who has influenced certainly an l ron hubbard i mean, that's a religion rather famous as an atheist that's one of the topics we'll be talking about influence del mar, what well, when i was here tonight i got, to bring more kleenex out well, when i was a kid, of course, i wanted to be a comedian when i was very young. >> i can like, i mean, johnny carson carson and george cooper i've, written here. when i was first just thinking about being a committee, there was a chauvin from canada called sctp so for almost everyone in that case was a genius, almost but that was, that was a big influence on me. >> he bet you. well, thank you so much. >> on behalf of i interviewed with them and then now they don't talk to me and i don't know what that's about and you're also a big fan of peter peter, the people for the ethical treatment of animals yeah, bill, because i have one of the heaviest set dogs in the celina, the worms in her stool have type two diabetes and i'm because, like which endangered species do you feel what's kind of asking for us well, none of them, of course. i mean, all all the creatures in this earth should be able to live freely to not to be on did to extinction by man. i mean, we are getting to the point where we're only going to eat like three things and we'd pow pow cows, pigs. >> you tell me if you'd had a stroke when you it may be coming, but luck, let me just say this that you are, you are absolutely send sensational and other than lacking one, what do you think? comedy legend really belt because everyone loves you. thank do, they don't. i mean republicans don't like you democrats don't like you kids do the twin. now i never been married. well never married has been so much finally, i got to wrap it in your book is absolutely the way thank you because i've always felt and i mean, this honest-to-god, not going to but i feel that the boring and tedious guests make me a better interviewer. so thank you. >> remedy the funniest thing the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. >> the president and the former president one stage two, very different visions for america's future. the cnn presidential debate thursday net it now live on cnn and streaming on max known for following your dreams known for keeping with tradition, known for discovering new places. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be keytruda is known to treat cancer. fda approved for 17 types of cancer, including certain early stage and advanced cancers. one of those cancers is early stage non-small cell lung cancer, keytruda may be used with certain chemotherapies before surgery when you have early stage lung cancer, which can be removed by surgery and then continued alone after surgery to help prevent your lung cancer from coming back keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. >> this may be severe in lead to death. see your doctor right away? 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>> all right. follow that, guys all right. >> he is new york state's former three term governor andrew cuomo is over public and congressman from illinois author of the book, renegade and founder of the country first pag, adam kinzinger is so go down well such a pro just melted into laughter. >> but what can he do with that? i mean, that's the 20 well as in yeah. okay. so switching gears here now since both of you are people who have been in office and our recently out of office. i'm not sure that's your choice, but well honestly, i feel like you're both feel like the coach that you see in the booth on the nfl, the nba was really trying to get back in the game when he's mating for that coaching job has happened with the guy in the lakers. >> okay let me ask the political question. >> if if biden won't step aside and look so it won't even though i think he should have long time ago and still not too late. the question becomes, what kind of campaign is he running? as two political savants? here? >> is he running a good campaign? >> and how, what have you, we're running it. >> what would you be telling him? and what would you do to run it better? >> yeah i don't think he's running running an especially good campaign. >> frankly i think there's a big question that he has to answer, which is about his age as viability, et cetera. and i think the only way you answered that is by getting out there and letting people see you that's the only way you put it to rest. and i don't think you can hide from that bill and i think he should be more aggressive in that regard. i think you should also be more aggressive in talking about with this campaign is really all about, right? because it's really bigger than trump and biden and this campaign is about division versus unity. it's about whether we are going to exploit differences or whether we're going to find commonality still the united states or is it the divided states? and i think is that binary a choice? and i think you should frame the race that waits now, that seems, that seems like the kind of lofty ideas he is running on. that's not working. >> people seem to be saying we want we care about the pocketbook issues. >> yeah, we can this is a across the lines of race, of gender everybody seems to be saying the same thing. it's inflation, it's pocketbook issues, it's things like that that hit us every day in our everyday lives. and you guys are talking about ukraine and gaza and israel and depth democracy. i agree with your democracy he is on the line. it just doesn't seem to connect with the people. i mean, i could go through the stats here of the people he's losing. it's a little scary because he's losing the people who are supposed to be the ones in the democratic camp immigration. i saw this week. okay. he's allowing us citizens now to their spouses to apply for permanent residency been here for sometimes up to ten years, married, not a citizen. okay. that's kinda pandering to not working 45% of hispanic voters prefer biden compared to 39% for trump. last time he one 150, 9%. that was 2020. so he's lost 14 points there he went to morehouse. he said, what is democracy? we have to be ten times better than anyone else to get a fair shot that seemed like pandering to me black voters under 50 he led by 80 points in 2020. now by 37 still a lot, but he lost 43 points off the key constituency. student loans. >> he's forgiven $144 billion in student loans only 30 per 36% of student debt holders like it. i mean, if you can't win the people you're pandering to. yeah. i mean, i get it. politics is somewhat about pandering. that's not an insult you spoke to do what people want to a certain degree, also be a leader. but if you're not winning these groups and he's lost 8% off women since 2020 and yet i read in the polls, he pulled ahead this week explain that to me because trump's psycho and i think people are starting to see that if you look, the last few years, trump's kinda been in and out of the press. he still consumed everybody's consumed with them. but when you start seeing him talk again, i do think the felonies have heard him, but when you see him talk again, people feel this exhaustion coming back. so i think that's a change what's happening right now? is there's still this belief that identity politics works. and i don't think it works, doesn't, it doesn't work. people are voting now the political realignment is kind of this middle-class it to sign of progress educated, yeah, it is a sign of the progress we've made in this country. >> it is, and it looked, there's no doubt, but that you have to speak to people where they are, right? and it is about the cost of living and not as an abstract concept, it's about the cost of your groceries and gasoline and health care, et cetera. and those are the issues that he has to address. but i still think one of the issues he has little table bill is his personal capacity to lead and that has to be answered at the same time. >> it also wouldn't immigration. this is screaming at people as the number one concern and as political party of a choice to make, you can either listen to the concerns like you were talking about earlier or at some point say those concerns aren't real people are concerned with the border. i'm about as moderate to almost liberal on immigration. i think we have to be a welcoming country, but we have to have security on the border, i think is executive order was important but then they cut they then come out with this new thing, which kind of washes away what he did on the executive order. i think lean forward on immigration. you're going to tick off your left base, but that's okay because they're going to vote for you. who's not voting for you and who you have to try to win is the middle. >> yeah. right. >> and with that, i agree that his immigration policy was a mistake, right? >> i get the theory of the extreme left where land of immigrants let everyone come in. >> we all came as immigrants i get it. but how you do it makes all the difference in the world, right and to just open the borders with no plan, you don't know where they go. you don't know who's going to pay for them. they wind up in cities all across the co