and who will govern the islamic republic in very challenging times >> and we'll, while this country will be getting a new president, one thing that's unlikely to change is iranian foreign policy. the country's leadership having made clear that they will continue their hard line towards the united states. and of course, towards israel as well. we'll fred pleitgen in tear ron, thank you very much. >> erin burnett, outfront starts right now outright next, the breaking news, not repeating the bleep show new reporting tonight about what trump is telling confidence he will not do it. cnn's debate two days from now, this is we learned about one of the comebacks. biden is gearing up to deliver. also breaking polls about to close boost in the most expensive democratic primary ever. the biggest progressive names out in full force aoc, sanders, warren is it enough to save jamaal bowman and barak obama is half-sister teargassed, live on cnn. what happened? >> brown there. let's go out front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett and outfront tonight. it's not going to be a bleep show while that is a close confidant of the former president, a direct quote, who tells the bowl works, marc caputova, that cnn's upcoming presidential debate will not be like get the 2020 fiasco caputova, who has new breaking details tonight, he'll be here in just a moment. says trump realizes the chaotic debate four years ago cost him valuable support of course, here is just some of what we saw play out just as rational left. >> would you base and who is on your list? you don't, you write, gentlemen, i think i'm not here to call out his lies. everybody knows he's a liar, but i just want i want, to make sure that you wanted lasting it last. firstly i want to make sure. can you let him finish, sir? >> no, he didn't know how to do that 145 times. that is how many times trump interrupted biden or the moderator, 145 times. >> and computers reporting tonight, is it that maybe different this time tonight, trump telling the washington examiner, quote, i was very aggressive in the first one. the second one, i was different and i got great marks on the second one. and the final two days before thursday night's debate, the former president says he is not hunkering down is not spending hours upon hours preparing saying it's very hard to prepare. you've got to know this stuff from years of doing it. and i know all the leaders and i know what i know. it's largely based on common sense. i think debating is an attitude more than anything else. that attitude will be put to the test as we are now learning the two podiums will be eight feet apart. now, eight feet apart. think about that. that's not very far. it is much closer than the last trump biden debate during the covid pandemic when they, when more than 12 feet apart from each other could be the closest they've ever been, maybe at inauguration, it was closer, but it's really close. as for biden, he is leaving nothing to chance. he is ready to push back and he is engaged in formal, traditional debate prep are mj lee is reporting the biden's team believes if and when foreign policy comes up, there is no starker contrast. we even know what one of biden's comebacks might be when pressed and mj is out live is outfront live inside the white house tonight. and mj, you've got some breaking news on what biden is doing and thinking here on some of these debate moments. >> yeah, erin, even though domestic issues are really top of mind for the biden team, i am told by a source that the debate prep sessions at camp david have also focused on foreign policy with jake sullivan, the president's national security adviser, taking the lead on those discussions as the president is prepared for the possibility of foreign policy issues coming up on thursday night. one campaign officials said that when it comes to foreign policy really, the contrast of the president will try to draw against donald trump could not be more striking dark this is how they summed it up. they said president biden stands up to dictators and defend freedom. trump is a loser who is too dangerous and reckless to ever be anywhere close to the oval office. again one famous trump line, that one source had said is likely to come up on thursday night. it's just playing from donald trump recently that he would be a dictator on day one. but aaron, i think one thing that is important to note is that as you're talking about preparing to go up against donald trump on foreign policy matters. one challenge for the biden team is that his positions have actually been quite murky and ambiguous when it comes to gaza. for example, he hasn't actually said much when it comes to ukraine. he has said if he had been president putin wouldn't have invaded and he would have resolved the conflict in one day. but he's never elaborated. so all of that goes into the thinking and the preparations and of course, we've reported that mock debates have begun to camp david. the president is using a podium as a prop, and there are different a's that are playing the roles of donald trump are jake tapper and dana bash and all of that, of course, is meant to replicate the exact experience of the president could have on thursday. and that is really meant to test him on substance as well of stamp as well as stamina as well. >> all right. which obviously is going to be crucial here. >> mj. thank you. and more breaking news on the cnn presidential debate about donald trump's strategy. so let's go straight to the bulwark smart caputova, who broke this part of the story. so mark, you've got new reporting tonight that donald trump is that he gets it. it sounds like the confidence close to him are telling you that he is directly told them that he's going to he's not going to repeat that chaotic debate performance in 2020. what are you learning? >> quote, it's not going to be like last time he told one person who had spoken to me about it. it's not 2020. 'what donald trump is saying. >> his team is saying that he learned his lesson from the rather disastrous debate in 2020 but like in 2020, his debate preparation is not being called debate prep. >> don't call it debate prep. they're calling it policy refreshers he's having informal or better said, formal discussions with five top aides and some others who come in. but overall, it's not like what joe biden is doing not not at all. >> and you say, obviously they don't want to use the word debate prep so you also report to the extent that he doesn't have anyone playing biden in rehearsals, which is a crucial part of debate prep for moderators, as i can tell you, having done that or for anyone obviously preparing to debate. so what do you know about the preparations that are taking place and what are these policy refreshers entail? >> will, the policy refreshers and tail him just having about these hour-long meetings. there's been at least six, so far, there's probably gonna be at least one or two more before thursday where jason miller is could top communications adviser, stephen miller, no relation. it was top policy adviser. the campaign co-manager. >> susie wiles the two other top policy advisors are in these sessions every day and then other aids sort of cycle through. and then there are sort of special guests who come in and highlight various issues. and so we have a little sense of the things that he's interested in talking about, preparing to talk about one of them is abortion, foreign policy is another immigration, obviously another trade. >> so what he does and how we respond to some of these other questions, like it's going to be in georgia. >> so he's probably going to be asked about whether he won georgia or not. obviously, he didn't we don't know how he's going to respond, but i'm sure that they're expecting that question to be asked. >> right? right. and then perhaps even they will have no idea how he it wasn't responding until the moment that he does some argue recently, you and i were talking you had reporting about trump's vp shortlist that you had learned that it appeared to have been whittled down to three names. now, you have learned that when you talk about these, you just said hour-long sessions, at least six of them that trump has turned to two of those three to help him in these policy refreshers. tell me more right. >> jd vance, the ohio senator, is there to talk about sort of the what they called the america first movement and sort of heartland issues being from ohio, the midwest, the rust belt, being of great importance. he's sort of participated or he has participated at least one of these sessions and then florida center marco rubio has been there and discuss with him foreign policy and national defense a specialties of rubio. now i wouldn't read in to that too deeply as the fact that they might be favored or disfavored trump recently said that he knows who he is going to pick as his vp, that vp candidate will be at the debate. but everyone's probably gonna be out the debates. so we have no idea of who it is or when he's going to make the announcement. >> right. all right. mark. thank you very much with all those new details. and now to menu know all about preparing for a debate like this. david pollyanna, cki, former chief of staff or senator ted cruz. and for me to former deputy campaign manager for the ron desantis campaign, also the chief strategy officer of acts advocacy which is ironic because david axelrod is karen get a patent. maybe not, maybe there will be after tonight. we're senior adviser, president obama, and of course, senior political commentator. okay. so let's just go through some of this reporting here. actually, venn diagram overlap on foreign policy which may not be the first place you'd expect it, but obviously they're both cv preparing there what do you understand here when you look at biden's preparation, very traditional. it is prepared. >> his someone close to them using the word loser described trump, unclear whether biden would use that word, but as he ready to play phi returned fire with fire, he did four years ago. >> i mean, one of the things that i think really benefited him was that he was very much in the moment he pushed pushback. he had trump on his heels at times and he didn't let trump rattle him in those debates. and that's even more important this time that's the first test for him. so i'm sure that's part of what they're drilling. the other thing is former i mean, current president's incumbent presidents tend to stumble in that first debate because they, they want to defend the record. they know more and they want to share all these details and so on. i'm sure they're trying to rip all that wiring out and say, here's this is how we want to handle this issue. this question, these are the leinz we want to land and they're going over it again and again. >> so they were probably ascii when you have when you hear what we're learning marks reporting on trump hour long sessions. >> so that is prep. >> i mean, it may not be standard prep, but that is his memorizing things at some level, at least six of them you've got marco rubio and jd vance involved having done this with ron desantis and had crews who have been on stage well, one of them with with trump what do you make of this debate prep in debate prep, i think it's a great example. some candidates need to prep like there former litigators and supreme court clerks and some need to practice in different ways, maybe in a more entertaining style. and you have to read your candidate, know how to prep them and in this case, i don't think sitting down and mock debate sessions doesn't sound like the trump team feels that's the way to roll. i think they're trying to slip the pill and the apple sauce. they know he has to prepare, but he doesn't like to be prepared. he doesn't like to be handled, so they are calling them, you whatever they're calling them, but he calls it trump saying debating is an attitude on a certain level. >> is he right yes. >> i mean, i think people read how you handle yourself on the stage, whether you're in control of the stage and so on. but it does matter how you handle a specific questions. and i was interested. marc said, well, they're really eager to talk about abortion. i'm not sure they're eager to talk about abortion. it's got to be ready because that's going to be a major sure. issues. so in classic preparation the, the key is to anticipate as much as you can. and when you're preparing someone for debate, you're comfortable when you hear a question and you know how your candidate is going to handle that question. i think it must be anxiety producing for both these prep teams because they're not quite sure. >> so the distance i was just looking at you, i was wishing i had my tape measure, so i'd say what i mean from need any or say three, three-and-a-half feet. eight feet on some level is actually far. but for this for these two and in this setting it's very close what it was 12 feet last time, they may never have been this close together, maybe maybe inauguration and yet eight feet what does that do? i mean, when you think about when you're prepping before, are you does that distance matter and how do you play that? >> absolutely, it does, especially when you don't have an audience because it seems and feels even closer, you're in a studio. just the two you just the two of you. and clearly there's bad blood between them. we saw that in 2020, we've seen it escalate over the last few years. but i also wanted to touch on one thing i think he campaigns are about prep and being ready to go in, but they're also about confidence going in. and i think right now, the former president walks in with a pretty significant polling advantage. i mean, at this point of the race and 20 on this date and 20 joe biden was leading nationally by ten points. now, you know, donald trump's up by 1% and that holds true in a lot of the battleground states. >> i'm not sure confidence necessarily as his friend, that's when trump tends to get in trouble, is when he's over-confident, but on this thing about distance, one of the reasons that incumbent presidents, and frankly, we've never had this situation before. but trumped intubate in the primaries. neither of these guys are used to having someone this close in their grill, recreating them without deference and challenging them. and that's one of the, one of the things that makes it difficult for an incumbent to prepare now we have to open in common and a former incumbent, right. we'll see how that goes distance, i guess that is that kind of fixed physical proximity when you are a person who is so isolated, each in their own way. yes. age is going to matter. age is going to matter you that 90 minutes going to matter for both. >> we'll see we'll see, but certainly biden's age is at the front of us, right? >> everybody is watching to see how he is back in 2019. remember that debate? yes. we asked him about it. i just want to play how we answered the question at the time that was his pat answer here is vice president biden. if you're elected, you will turn at during your first term. >> last month, former president jimmy carter said he could not have undertaken the duties of the presidency. the years old why are you so sure that you can because i've watched it. >> i know what the job is. i've been engaged. look, one of the reasons i am running is because of my age and my experience with it comes wisdom we need someone to take office this time around who on day one can stand on the world stage so how does the answer that now he's not going to answer it that way now. >> but what he can say is look, this isn't about my future, his future. we're both at the ends of our of our careers here. this is about your future the question you have to ask is, is this person going to fight for mayors? this person had a fight for themselves, and that is very, 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