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>> john: that was a smile, what do you think i am thinking grin. i am john roberts in washington as we codes in our number two. >> sandra: that was a moment that happened moments ago. great to be with you, i'm sandra smith in new york and this is "america reports." those jurors, two days of deliberations and a guilty verdict. donald trump is the first former president to be convicted of a felony but it is far from over a. >> we will be appealing this scam. we will be appealing on many different things he would not allow us to have witnesses, he would not allow us to talk or do anything periods view on former president trump's legal team pledging to appeal the verdict and sentencing could be stayed during appeal so that could push any punishment beyond election day. let's bring in jonathan turley and janine shapiro on this. already thinking about it they have until i think the second week of june to file it. judge, how do you think this proceeds in the days, weeks, and potentially months ahead? >> the sentencing will occur on july 11th and of course the defense has the opportunity to say in front of judge juan mershon to have a postconviction motion that the evidence is contrary that the verdict is contrary to and we know that. once the sentencing occurs they can appeal to the appellate court to try to stay that sentencing until the appeal has been added or perfected. the division handles it first of course and will take probably six months to a year and probably the court of appeals. although mark levin is talking about possibly taking it to the supreme court and basically constitutional basis that is kind of like what happened in the gore versus bush case. the normal process will be sentenced on the 11th, there is a wide panel of sentencing options he has. four is the max on the class e felony counts. to simply suspending a sentence or simply saying the sentence there will be no punishment in terms of jail time but simple probation or maybe even a conditional discharge. >> sandra: i think it's important also thank you both for being here to replay dustin biden from a moment ago what he set off the very top as we were anticipating his remarks, listen. speak of the american principle that no one is above the law was reaffirmed. donald trump was given every opportunity to defend himself, it was a state case not a federal case, and it was heard by a jury of 12 citizens. 12 americans. 12 people like you. like millions of americans who served on juries. this jury is chosen the same way every jury in america is chosen. >> sandra: heat chose to lead with that. any color you can give us from inside the courtroom? what you saw. >> he emphasized that the state not a federal case but it's hard to tell because the feds had decided there was not a basis for civil fine coming from federal election commission. and yet you had state prosecutor vaguely suggesting a federal election violation. we still do not know what he was convicted of with any specificity. we know they were unanimous that there was a secondary crime that was the motivation for the dead to misdemeanor or misdemeanors being committed. but the judge said you can pick from the menu. there are three here and you don't have to be unanimous so you literally could have had a 4-4-4 jury and they could have disagreed as what was intended, what occurred here. inside the courtroom, it was -- you could feel the weight of history there. it was very solemn at the end. in one of the things that i thought when i was looking around is that the question is what is the history being made here? part of it is not good. i've always said this case was illegitimate. i don't see the law here, i don't see the crime, i think this is a political prosecution. even analysts on other networks have said it would not be brought against anyone but trump it has never been brought against anyone like this. there's also this question of the weaponization of the criminal justice system. we are not used to that. and we have not seen it in this country really since the adams administration. the use of the courts in this type of predatory way. it is going to be interesting to see how americans react to that. it is in our dna that we have this resistance to the use of the courts. this may be a moment where we make mistakes in the court system. we have a court system that corrects them so we have have to have faith but sometimes mistakes can produce reform so the question is will this galvanize the country to say enough, we have gone too far in our? >> john: in terms of this issue of weaponization the former president spoke to that earlier today at trump tower here is what he said. >> i don't mind being out there because i am doing something for this country and i am doing something for our constitution. it's very important, far beyond me and this cannot be allowed to happen other presidents. this is bigger than trump it's bigger than me and bigger than my presidency. >> john: judge we talked to the former acting whitaker that this is the beginning of a slippery slope you've convicted trump of crime what if biden gets defeated in november? does a prosecutor somewhere who is on the republican side go after biden? >> you don't even have to wait for that, jon perry do you have tens of thousands of prosecutors in this country who now know they have the green light to go after whomever they want to in terms of political prosecutions. you know, jonathan is talking about the dna we have as americans. instinctively this was a gut punch to all of us. we do not do this to candidates who are running for president and i don't want to hear you are not above the law or below the law i mean we all argue that in normal cases. the other man is a former president running for president being prosecuted literally by a progressive d.a. at first look said no, i am not going to handle this. the fed saying we are not going to handle this and then they violate all these constitutional requirements of a unanimous verdict and a unanimous jury, we don't even know -- just talking about the federal campaign alleging campaign violation, there is a federal tax violation as one of the three columns upon which they resurrected these dead misdemeanors. i mean we don't have to wait for biden to be defeated or elected. they are right now saying hey, i can make a name for myself are going after the guy running for d.a. going after the guy running for county executive. governor, this is wrong. it's wrong and i believe americans on november 5th will say no more. we cannot tolerate this is a country. we are not a third world country. >> sandra: and yet biden just said this on anybody who suggests this was rigged. listen. >> it's reckless. it's dangerous. it's a responsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict. our justice system has endured 250 years and literally is the cornerstone of america. the justice system should be respected. we don't want anyone to tear it down it's as simple as that. >> sandra: final thought? >> there is irony with special counsel saying i'm not indicting the president because he is an elderly man with a failing memory. >> trump brought that up what about me. >> there is that irony. this was an abuse. i think people who are fair-minded is this is popular justice of manhattan but it's not the justice we look for in our legal system. speech i think judge had one final thought, john. >> americans, we are better than this and we will prove it on november 5th, hopefully. >> sandra: i think we bought ourselves some more time here. [laughter] >> john: we did no question about that. let's get you to speak to this idea, judge of biden saying don't criticize or say anything about this verdict and the wheels of justice should roll. i could see the supreme court from here a small piece of it but a member the crowds out in front of the supreme court after the dobbs decision came down and what reverberated in legislatures across the country and all the way down pennsylvania avenue to the white house where people said that is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong we have to do something to turn that back and biden says you must respect the will of the people. >> yes in other words keep your mouth shut and we know with this administration is capable of doing if you don't. and it was not the verdict, it's not only the verdict people said was rigged. they knew it was rigged. jonathan, we were talking about this in terms of the statements allegations and opening statements in charge of the jury. we did not need to wait for the verdict to say it was rigged. everything leading up was that case. but sure, any kind of protests we want to shut down and that was set a sad commentary. >> sandra: it was great to have you here onset. >> we will miss each other. >> i know i have to tell you she is a load of fun. >> sandra: i swear we have the best legal teams in the business. >> john: like the last day of can't. see you next summer. >> we are coming back. >> sandra: thank you so much. correspondent bryan llenas guess where he is? live outside trump tower getting reaction from americans from people on the ground in new york city. brian, what are people saying? >> sandra look there are about a couple hundred protesters out there from both sides while the former president was making his comments in trump tower behind me. for president is speaking when he spoke to both sides you realize those who are willing to come out here not surprisingly for the most intensive trump supporter's and the most intense anti-trump supporter's. when we spoke to trump supporter's they told us this was a shame. and one woman name was alexis she is 27 years old saying she did not vote in the last election and did not support trump but now she says she does because she is motivated by what she says is a sham and rigged a trial. she says she is most motivated by the fact the former president was still continuing to run despite all these roadblocks as she put it being thrown in front of him. now with the latest guilty verdict and we also spoke to biden i would say a liberal person who is here was a biden supporter but is also a professional protester and says she has been protesting with rise and resist for seven years and she says basically she is afraid there could be more people that potentially could support trump because of this verdict but ultimately she believes this case needed to happen. the poll showing two-thirds of folks out here thing would it make a difference? the biggest question the jury is still out on independent and swing voters. on top of all of that we know the former president we were able to turn that over to hear some of the sound. >> i didn't like trump in the beginning but then i saw what he did for the country and i was like you know what? it's way better than what we are doing now. >> this motivates you anymore this guilty verdict? >> yes it motivated me much more and i'm hoping a lot of people will see it. >> you know what? the real verdict is november 5th. that's when he will be back in the white house. >> i'm wondering if you're at all concerned about this backfiring in any way. come november 5th. >> the truth is i don't think we can think about backfiring. we have to pursue justice. >> [chanting] >> of course the trump campaign we see no time raising $35 million plus from 485,000 donors and the hours after the verdict they hope this will continue to build momentum for the former president, sandra. >> sandra: that is and was a lot of activity. i am sure there will be more. thank you for bringing it to us. >> of course. >> sandra: a did not take long for the presidential campaign to slam president trump and fund raise off of the guilty verdict. how will the conviction impact the 2024 race? >> john: plus jury selection monday in hunter biden's gun case could that end in a conviction as well. done my mark shannon bream is coming up next i do a lot of hiking and kayaking. i needed something to help me gain clarity. so i was in the pharmacy and i saw a display of prevagen and i asked the pharmacist about it. i started taking prevagen and i noticed that i had more cognitive clarity. memory is better. it's been about two years now and it's working for me. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. we always thought there was something regal about scraps here. so we got a dna test from embark. 91% golden retriever. 9% cavalier king charles spaniel. a king. 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this is how our legal system works at bob woodward's immediate response was this. >> maybe the country is not as divided as we think it is. that this jury was able to quite quickly reach a consensus and the consensus is that donald trump is a felony. and that changes politics. that changes the whole understanding of trump and the presidential election going on. >> sandra: that they made decisions based on politics? big i don't know if a manhattan jury represents america. this went 85% roughly in president biden so i think most americans would say that's not exactly representative of the rest of the country but a jury makes any decision based on politics but in some way is a political statement so i think that is the last thing they want and the biden-harris ticket they have tried to become careful about this because they don't want to give the appearance that this is political because that has been president trump's argument all along. >> john: as we mentioned a moment ago massive fund-raising hall after the verdict is what the chairman michael watley said about "more than 485,000 donors h