jacqui heinrich lab at the white house. what's on the campaign agenda today? >> well, john, the biden campaign seems to have noticed the trump campaign raking in the donations following that conviction, so they are leaning into the messaging, too. >> i have no doubt they raised a significant amount of money because his base we know is going to stick with him through thick and thin with her he's a convicted felon or not. this campaign did in fact have one of the best stretches of fund-raising since the campaign launched. >> there's at least one democrat he thinks that the wrong approach. congo's been dean phillips, who tried to primary biden this year, says donald trump is a serial liar, cheater, and philanderer, a six time to clear bankruptcy, and instigator of insurrection, and he thrives on portraying himself as a victim. governor kathy hochul should pardon for the good of the country. there are plenty of other voices within the party who disagree. >> i think the president should be leaning into this going forward. his competitor is a convicted felon, and you can only imagine, if the situation was reversed, they would be going after joe biden with a vengeance. >> the president will hold his first campaign event since the verdict in connecticut today. there are no cameras allowed inside that fund-raising reception, that reporters will be in the room to gauge just how far biden goes with this messaging. on friday he said he had no idea whether the verdict will help trump in the election, that the campaign seems to be a little bit worried about that, and in fund-raising emails since they have been soliciting donations based on trump's f fund-raising momentum. >> john: it's not hurting trump's fund-raising coming to be sure. jacqui heinrich, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: let's bring in former house speaker kevin mccarthy. welcome, good have you on the program today. first, your reaction to the biden campaign drawing what they see as a very stark contrast between the two candidates? >> you know, the only thing the biden campaign had an advantage on his money, and now, those who didn't support trump realize that this whole trial would have never happened had he not ran for president. the d.a. passed on it, the doj passed on it, the sec pass on it, so they know it is trumped up going after a political opponent. when that happens in real histories, it creates moving on the other side and comes back to bite you. i think that is exactly what biden is seeing happening now. >> john: as we look toward november and what might happen on the republican side, they can do pretty well in the senate, because democrats are defending a lot more seats and republicans are. they have a very strong candidate in the state of maryland in the form of larry hogan, the former gov governor. yet, while the rnc says it is still behind hogan, the trump campaign is on the warpath against him. why would you try to take out larry hogan when he could be one of your best bets for flipping control of the senate to? >> if you want to enact the senate, you want to be on offense, expand the playing field. if larry hogan was not running in maryland, it wouldn't even be a contest. you want democrats to have to spend money. i think people should take a deep breath, actually reread what larry hogan said in the process. it wasn't an anti-trump comment. >> john: he said we should respect the jury verdict. >> but the one thing i would look at from this is you want larry hogan going through. he's proven he can win in that state, a two-term governor. he's a conservative in the process, and if you want to win the senate yesterday playing in all these things. >> john: there's an old adage in politics that winning is not the most important thing, it's the only thing. but if you reduce your chances of that -- >> for the last two cycles, the republicans of lost in the senate. in the house, we want necklace cycles. when you think about it, we lost the presidency, the senate, two cycles, governors, the only place we did win was in the house. and even though everybody predicted we would lose 15 seats, we beat 15 democrats, then we went back again. we might not have won as big as ever but he wants, that all the other republicans lost, we were still able to win. >> sandra: when it comes to the former president's conviction, mr. speaker, our white house team is reporting as you just heard that democrats are urging biden to lean into trump's conviction. i mean, all along, as his trial carried on, republicans were saying this is only working for him, and noting fund-raising that we saw after the guilty verdict. so which is it? is this going to help or hurt the president for his reelection campaign? >> i think time will tell. the early answer right now is that it's helping him, firing at the base. one thing you always wanted an election, it is who shows up. the intensity to vote for trump is stronger than the intensity to vote for biden. this election is really not about trump, it's about biden. do you want four more years? if i was the biden family, i would be leery of going after somebody about a convicted felon when you have your own son going to trial right now. it's not just the sun, it might be about a gun, that you're going to get into the money, and it flowed to the rest of the family. you can be an unconvicted felons had the biden family. i would be leery of casting that, because this is something much different. he was picked, and i think this thing would be thrown out. >> john: i've talked to people and i don't know what the politics are, and they say they've never made up a legal donation until this verdict came down, and they found it so distasteful that they contributed. >> i have never seen it get shut down. >> john: i want to ask you this, it seems as though a lot of democrats are distancing themselves from joe biden as his poll numbers continue to tank. axios quoted some anonymous democrats who said more distancing now, as his neighbors continue to tank, pretty much washing my hands of the campaign. in other democrats that always an element where you run your own race, and now it is even more pronounced, given the president's weakness. you hope when you are in an election year that the top of the ticket goes all the way down ballot. but now you got the down ballot race and they want nothing to do with it. >> you would want the power of the president to come in for you, no one is inviting biden to come into campaign. and the thing you have found, as well, privately when you talk to these democrats the number one topic is, could we change them out and put somebody else in? that's a bad sign. remember, biden only won by 48,918 votes, and his favorability rating at that time was plus ten, now it's minus 20. the npr polled independents and they say by 53-42, four more years of biden is a greater threat to democracy. when you look at the cnn poll, asking if trump's four years are positive, 55% of america says yes. they compare that with her looking at now, no president at this time has ever had this level of a rating as president biden does. they are expanding the playing field. you look at regina, new hampshire, minnesota, those are a bad position to be in. for their party, they talk about 15 million jobs created. they talk about capping the price, making health care more affordable. they call it a record of historic results for the american people. that's what people across the country want. there was a biden spokesperson quoted in that piece. what i would add to, he said republicans are stuck defending his promises to cut taxes for the billionaires at the expense of the middle class and ban abortion nationwide. how do you respond to that? >> those comments you said at the beginning, no one in america is saying that outside the white house. they talk about the high cost of food, the gasoline costs, the border. the border is the number one issue out there. every advantage in this policy is leaning toward president trump. i will tell you, 55% of america thinks trump's policies were better, that's a bad position to be in. i would rather be in trump's position right now even coming out of that trial then i would with biden. this election is going to be based upon, can you secure the border? this is the number one thing people are talking about. abortion can be an issue. that's the only thing where the democrats have movement up. but it is in pockets. remember, abortion was a bigger issue in the last election, and those cycles, i want five more seats in california and five in new york. these are the bluest states that there. how strong was it? >> john: it's good to catch up with you. we will have to do it more. >> sandra: thanks so much. >> john: sandra, on that insulin thing, i seem to remember that back in may of 2020 the centers for medicare and medicaid said that president trump had signed an executive order to cap the price of insulin for medicare recipients at $35. maybe i am misremembering that? 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>> few people outside of manhattan have a lot of faith in the new york system right now, so far president trump may have some slow sliding initially on appeal, that many of us see layers of reversible error here, and it could end up in front of the supreme court. i personally don't see how this verdict can be sustained. i was in that courtroom and i was shocked by how the court was ruling. i would hope that eventually -- maybe not initially, that eventually, an appeal will prevail in the verdict will be thrown out. >> john: is there a possibility of this going to the supreme court before it goes to the appellate court in new york on an emergency petition? >> you could certainly make that three-point shot. i would bet against it. the supreme court has ruled against jack smith trying to short-circuit his case against trump. they basically said stay in the lane, stay with regular order. they're probably going to take the same position here and say there's a lot of issues here, get the new york courts a chance to do the right thing, and eventually the court will get it. it's unlikely this will be resolved before the election, which is what many were hoping in manhattan. >> sandra: as we wait for updates from the hunter biden trial, which we have moved on to now, jonathan. do you have a quick comment on that, by the way? >> in many ways, this trial has a marking of the jury nullification defense. there's no other defense i can see out of these facts. he has tried various defenses, and they have collapsed. hunter biden destroyed some of them, including the argument that he might have been having a moment of sobriety. his books blew that one away. but this is the hometown of the bidens. they may be hoping for a type of jury nullification. this is the opposite of manhattan. this is a great jury pool for the defendant. >> sandra: . >> sandra: wow. >> john: democrats seem to find them all over the place these days. jonathan turley, d good to talko you, professor. >> sandra: mexico making history electing its first female president, but will her landmark victory change anything about the border crisis? it all comes after the shooting of two new york city police officers overnight, reportedly by a migrant suspect. dave rubin will join us next with more. ing ughh from a backed up gut? ughh. miralax works naturally with the water in your body to help you go. free your gut and your mood will follow. for 8 grams of fiber, try mirafiber gummies. let's get started. bill, where's your mask? 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if so, what is it? >> she did win big, as you mentioned, sandra, and she does have a mandate to stop the crime and corruption stifling mexico, especially the seven mexican states largely under cartel controlled. for the u.s., the election was more about three things: trade, drugs, and immigration. as mexico want to control its own border and reduce the thousands of migrants who use the country as a stepping stone to u.s.? claudia sheinbaum is a former mayor of mexico city and a phd climate scientist, partially trained in the u.s. at uc berkeley. >> with the united states, we will have a relationship of friendship, mutual respect, and equality as we have had so far. we will always defend the mexicans who are on the other side of the border. >> now, sheinbaum vowed to continue the social policies of her mentor, current president manuel lopez obrador, that she may choose a different path on the cartels. under the failed "hugs not bullets" policy, crime became the number one issue with voters. with homicide rates near record levels. >> she will serve mexican women well by cracking down on crime, and that means going after these cartels. >> which of course make their money smuggling people and drugs. a member of her team has admitted that mexico does need to do a better job of controlling their southern border. >> mexico, probably more than any other country, can either undermine or strengthen the u.s. border and migration policy. >> on trade, sheinbaum want to assure u.s. manufacturing from china to boost the economy. her term begins october 1st, but with this new executive order, if we cap migration, that could have the effect of filling those shelters on the south side, testing their capacity, and whatever the new government does as the shelters for philip. >> sandra: which leads to what we will hear in our next story. william la jeunesse, thank you. john? >> john: as william just alluded to, president biden reportedly consider