states, not saying a word about that are going to address the crowd all about an hour ago. were up on that and we are up on this, obviously the big news is that hunter biden under the gun and guilty on all federal gun charges and know the question is whether he is going to face jail on those charges. again with all three convictions here. there's a possibility to spend as much as 25 years in jail. while unlikely it is out there and there is another trial coming up on tax related matters. welcome everybody i'm happy to have you, i'm neil cavuto, let's get right to it, david spunt in wilmington, delaware, what went down in the courthouse today because was quick, david? >> neal moylett was quick and it was tense. quiet in the courtroom when the verdict was read. the word "guilty memorial day three times with the son of a sitting president just looking forward, things happen so quickly of the all juries only deliberated for two hour to an hour yesterday things happen so quickly the first lady was not even in the building when the verdict was read. she has been here every day except one day last week when she was in france attending the day ceremonies with her husband. she rushed in the building when she came here moments after the verdict was read. the president's sister valerie biden was not even in the courtroom, she was in the hallway came in after of the verdict was read. ultimately the entire case was just about this one page that hunter biden filled out on october 12th, 2018 for managers didn't believe him, they say that he is guilty, he's not a convicted felon from guilty under extreme -- on the three felonies any checks known about saying he was not addicted to drugs when he purchased a firearm for 11 days. this is new video our fox news -- giving some security members hug and his detail. you left, he didn't have any comment. you just walked his -- to his suv, he was spotted having lunch with his family earlier, abbey, happy even after the verdict did not go his way. you and put out a statement the -- i want to read it apart. he says, "i am more grateful for today the -- from mel melissa, my family, my friends and my community then i am disappointed by the outcome committee continues "recovery is possible by the grace of god and i am blessed experience that gifts one day at a time period unless a counter is only deliberated two hours today. we spoke to juror number 10, my colleague jacobson who says the case was not complicated in the and mark. listen to juror number 10. >> nobody is above the law -- so that it not play a factor in my decision. it was not politically motivated. >> this is extraordinary. special council david weiss who was ready to enter a plea deal with hunter biden inside this very courthouse behind me less than one year ago today, one in court today he says this case was simple, it's about lying and breaking the law. watch... >> ultimately, this case was not just about addiction. this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction. it was these choices in the combination of guns and drugs that made his conduct dangerous. >> will likely see david weiss informants in october of that is when sentencing is expected to happen here. we don't have a specific date yet. hunter could face up to 25 years behind bars but he isn't -- is not meant to make it a crime before so it's unlikely you'll see anything close to that and want to point out, david weiss it is still prosecuting hunter on tax charges, felony tax charges in los angeles. is expected to go to trial on september 5th but it's always possible there could be some sort of plea deal worked out if hunter's teams watch -- and david weiss is okay with that to make sure that they don't have to go through a trial does two months before his dad is getting reelected potentially if he wins. macniel? >> martha: >> neil: if he wins. david spunt thank you very much -- when he was addressing -- it never came up, it's quite a lot of folks, wondering if it surprised my next guest paul ryan 54 speaker of the house so from 315 to 2019. he joins us right now. mr speaker, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> the. >> neil: there was a really -- little surprising wasn't it not even mention -- >> i don't think so. he just wanted to make sure it was not meddling with the justice department partition of her son. like anybody who's filled out these forms is pretty obvious it's as if you lie you're committing a felony on the form. anyone whose brought a gun knows this. didn't. you like, he was smoking was a pretty open and shut case. i think during a ten no -- got it right, know it is about of this is an open and shut case. >> neil: you're successor of the presidents speak of the house, was asked about whether there is a two your justice system. this was from about an hour and a half ago. i want you to react to this speaker johnson. >> mr speaker, you -- the presidents son being convicted on three counts does not undercut your claims? >> it doesn't. every case is different and clearly the evidence was overwhelming here. i don't think that's the case in the trump trial. other tournament brought against him were honestly brought for political cases. hunter biden is a separate instance is reviewed by the? >> i think i was smacked i do -- there's a lot of trump cases. this one here in new york i think was a bogus case. alvin bragg ran for office saying i'm going to get trump, that he guarded. you twisted in misdemeanor in the felony and got 34 felony convictions of it. if his name was donald cap caputo, i bet these charges will not have been brought against him. >> neil: probably would've been more charges. >> right. i think the other kids rcs from trenton. i think the federal cases are much more serious and much more legitimate cases. think this was a totally bogus case. so, yeah, i think in equal justice was applied in a particular trump case. as i mentioned anybody was brought again, you know, he fill out the form that best as an open and shut case for hunter biden. but i do think this bragg case was really -- and i'm not a trump fan but he was totally victimized i think i was -- >> neil: were going to have -- >> is progressive -- >> neil: but there is the novelty of smacked his work and presented the situation that we are going to have a former president with a convicted criminal, and we are going to have a son of a president with a convicted mental and i'm just wondering what you think of that. >> i think in a country with relatively many people this is the choice we have? i like the majority of americans which we had a different twist then the ones being presented with. i can't help but think nikki haley of the way she was drop -- she was 16 points on trenin. she probably when this thing by 12 points -- >> neil: but she is now supporting donald trump. >> my point is it's going to be a very, very close race. i think their terrible choices that we are being presented with and that's just the fit -- that's what the primary motor selected and regret the fact that there is where we are sort of set all right, were rallying around on a trip. you had said the that would not be the case, you had said that he is a populist and an authoritarian narcissist the character -- and is a job that required the kind of character he just doesn't not have. that's pretty strong. >> that's the way i feel. i agree with that. i don't support biden either. things policies are terrible. hate the fact that i feel like i have -- i voted for him in 2016, hoping that there would be a different in a person in office. anything character is a really important issue billing if you put yourself above the constitution as you has done -- >> neil: but what happened -- with it on january 6? >> is a part of it. these are controversial factors but i think it's really not his character at the end of the enemy but if willing to put yourself above the competition, an oath used where we take office in federal office mother's president or a member of congress, you -- and accruing to -- thing that makes you unfit for office. >> is and make you worry if he does get elected president that he'll attend to their? skew nothing or institutions are pretty strong. i do think, you're talking about all these court cases that this is just one more chapter or an episode in the institutionalization of our society. in this case, you know, the judicial branch. i do think our institutions are strong enough to endure this. we have a separation of powers, we have three separate coequal branches, -- but they are still strong enough to withstand whatever is going to be for other meaghan roy six is a good example of imaginary sex never had a chance of being successful because the institutions were too strong to have anything overturned that. so i don't think given the legislative branch counted judicial branch of the executive branch and attention that they have that we are going to have anything that disables our democracy movement out of hyperbolic talk about that. i don't buy any of that part. any of these institutions are strong. i like the way he makes decisions. >> neil: well he doesn't like you've got either. you heard your comments that he posted this on true social last month. rupert murdoch should fire his pathetic ryan, -- he said that ryan is a loser, always has been, always will be. he was a week and was incompetent speaker of the house in it's history. fox well lit sink to the autumn -- if all right has anything to do with the. you to serve on our board of directors so he's saying you shouldn't. >> look up i got death,, and worchester from donald trump of these are the three certainties in my left centimeters another day in the life. lookup field t-2 trump is what -- if you don't pledge fealty to this man than you are -- used to mean a liberal republican versus a conservative -- a conservative republican. he's a populist. is not a conservative. want to see someone who has fidelity to principles. out before a party that is based on principles, not personality or populism. this populism is untethered the principles and that is why, you know, i'm an anti- establishment republican. >> neil: but you need human early on. to be fair, donald trump said of you not to long ago when you were going to be leaving the speaker -- ryan is actually good man and while he will not be seeking reelection he will leave a legacy of achievement that nobody can question, we are with you, paul." what happened? >> i had no personal -- i think he got railroaded in this newer case. i don't want to see him go to jail. i do have any personal animosity -- >> neil: why do you -- while you keep saying stuff like this? because it rattled him. it gets them to see this stuff. >> because people like you asked me for the truth. you have any political ambition, not looking for anything in this asking that answering the questions truthfully which is -- understand many of your colleagues and the people you respect like the former -- will also share your concerns about latrobe and his temperament, when i spoke with him speaker he was just resigned to the fact that he is a guy that he's better than the guy, -- this is from bill bowler. >> i think trenin should be in the oval office, that's the fact. tree1 was discussed it in absolute terms and focus on the pose and cons of an individual. fine, we can discuss that but that interrelated in the a question of comparison. is a question of a choice of a binary choice. and i don't think either are, you know, should be near the oval office. but one of wendell gibbs going to be regular in my mind that it's better for the country, for the replicants to win the election. >> neil: what do you think? >> bill is a good friend of mine. i understand the binary argument, i agree with that. is just that simple. >> neil: mike johnson your successful, there that seem to be retribution to the -- without calling it retribution got a lot of people criticizing republicans for what they interpret as, you know, going after the system that under donald trump or the alvin bragg situation. this is what mike johnson has to say about that cabinet is not about retribution or doing donald trump's bending. to collect businesses. >> alvin bragg, who by some estimates, early estimates received almost a million dollars of federal taxpayer funds in the last year to do what? to have politicized persecutions of a political opponent of his party? iran on that grandmother was a premise of insulation listing attorney -- are you just doing it in the bigger platform? stockcar federal funding. congress is in charge of federal funding. congress is in charge of conducting oversight of how federal taxpayer funds are -- >> would you have done it if -- i don't know all the fact that he has in front of them but i do think he's right about bragg -- bragg which was this was a progressive and justified means vascular run on getting a guy that -- >> neil: but they're going so far and -- >> i didn't know this but i can understand there's some dod funds that probably go to -- >> neil: is more than that though speaker -- >> -- is to allow presidents [simultaneous talking] >> neil: i understand but who are dealing with burdens -- federal cases for the president has some control. >> what mike is basically saying is i will always defend the house' right -- diet healthy. attention that you have between three separate coequal branches of government is important attention to the wonders is an abuse their power. and the power of oversight is a power that angus had a need to maintain and basically you can -- a cat scan not like it but that republican selectman and a concept congress in a way that's as well but the point is on the negative branch as well within its rights the predicament of oversight over another branch of government. >> neil: do you think you can survive in hazardous environment right now? is sort of like likable was because right now. know you've got kevin mccarthy, is trying to make sure nancy made is not renaming -- for south carolina. congressional -- he's pouring it into her opponent in other words he's advocating -- >> i think mike johnson is doing a great job limiting mike johnson learned the key lesson early which is if you really are going to be good at that job speaker allows, you have to be willing to lose her job and mike did that. he put his job on the line to get things done like getting money to ukraine, israel a. one impacting experimental knowing that margarita le guin was going to do this. now mccarthy, you mentioned that when you have a once each margin and anybody can go the place of for self aggrandizement, for fame or later fortune as these nihilists have done and mutsumi takahashi is one of these people come here to change the place. and that means -- >> neil: for your support what he's doing? >> i support getting out of the primaries, legislators who are going to washington, with the congress to legislate, to join our team complements -- >> but that is what -- >> he's cost us a lot of seeds. and probably spent some time with the numbers, ycaza as the senate twice, he, at the house because he is nominated he's pushing through the primaries people who cannot win general elections but to pledge fealty to impairment that's a good way to build -- ever since 2016 -- >> neil: was a difference between that -- >> the point i'm trying to make -- let me finish my point, we have -- we need legislators and what -- making sure that we have legislators in his seat because the people that voted last him, he didn't deserve encounter with a reason to be mandated for fame later to become famous. there are nihilists that are not there to legislate their data entertained for the more we can replace entertainer with the legislature and getting actually done on the author congress as an institution will be strong in the republican majority will be. >> i disappointed though republicans have -- albeit with a summons of majorities? >> it's hard. had it when people margin. so it really is basically saying these guys can do a better job with both hands tied behind her back, i had both hands confirming mx oi and impressed with how mike johnson has handled this -- has recently. kevin for bringing a very simple piece of litigation -- to keep government open and not to -- because of this terrible low-margin we have this one rule are called motion to vacate one person can >> i think i should change. it makes a place ungovernable, unworkable and you have entertainers versus legislators and congresses as a outcome you will have a shorter think it's better to get a -- people who are six people gradually legislate advancements well in advance to own personal. >> really quickly and will take a break here, i love to have you back in excitement to pursue what's going on, he called donald trump a populist. well something is in the air because -- want to get your take on th that, how far this goes, what do you think you see in the trump administration? 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>> that you elections were pretty -- anything that surprising and frankly. i think europe is running up against is a decade of walk, you know, social policies and pervasive economics which gist don't produce. their slow -- how you're slain england? >> you can see the tories are in government but didn't run it like a conservatives chemical taken issue with tory governance which, you know, liz truss actually, you know, was there for a cup of coffee trying to put supply -- so the tories went back to work a green economic and high taxes and dated -- >> so they were and what they believed they were. >> neil: my point is in the