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government shutdown. now just six days away. the big question is, can he get his members to support it? in a moment, i'm gonna speak to democratic congressman, greg casar about the potential shutdown. as well as his call for a cease-fire in gaza, which puts him at odds with the white house. we're gonna be on the ground in israel, with fighting ongoing. at least one major hospital, just heard from israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, vowed to continue to war on hamas undeterred. donald trump on the campaign trail in new hampshire, just days after unleashing a vision of what would be the theme of a second trump presidency. revenge. >> that could certainly happen, it could certainly happen in reverse. what they've done is, they've released the genie out of the box, you understand that? they've done something that nobody thought would happen. i happen to be president, i see somebody who's doing well, beating me very badly. i say, go down and indict them. mostly,of business. they'd be out. out of the election. >> that's the former president of the united states threatening to jail, to imprison, his political opponents if he gets the white house back. all of that plus hollywood scrambling to get back to work after the end of the sag strike. how long will it take before we actually get to see all the new stuff that has been delayed. we're gonna look at that, coming up as well. we begin this hour with breaking news out of washington. house republicans are set to unveil a stopgap funding bill to avoid an impending government shutdown. with so much disorder within the republican party, can they actually get a bill passed and approved by the senate by friday's deadline. nbc congressional correspondent, julie tsirkin, is joining us with the very latest on this. 301. what are we hearing? >> well, the call is just getting started, i'm told, by members who are joining it. again, as i told you last hour, he has been, this is really the first opportunity for these republican members of congress to hear from their new speaker of two weeks. facing his first big test, to try and avert that government shutdown deadline, now six days away. i'm told johnson is still leaning toward that two-tiered so-called -- cr they talk about, that continued resolution that would extend current funding levels, i'm told, through at least january and february those. some of the dates that we're talking about. certainly, this plan is not one favored by democrats. because democrats say this would make things logistically complicated. hard-line conservatives want to reduce spending, they say that would force the senate to pass individual spending bills, rather than those big packages we often see at the end of the year just before christmas. that's something johnson, who really wants to avoid here. the question is, can he get to 2:17 on the floor tuesday? that's the earliest, i'm told, they can vote on this plan. that 72-hour rule getting members a chance to digest what's in this bill. if he can't, that means he's more likely to consider a quote unquote clean cr, the democrats prefer. something heading into mid january, without those teared deadlines. funding some agencies on one day, other agencies on the other. a logistical nightmare for all of capitol hill here. we will really see in the next couple of hours, as we see this bill text hopefully, what johnson's plan is all about. >> okay, julie, when we get word of this bill, you're getting some reporting from this call, let our producers know. we'll get you back on as quickly as we can. we are certainly anticipating and curious as to what exactly speaker johnson's gonna lay out here to avert government shutdown. for now, julie tsirkin, thank you. i want to get right at the texas democratic representative, greg casar, to talk more about this. congressman, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. we got a couple things to talk about. i want to talk first about what i just talked about my colleague, julie tsirkin, awaiting this plan coming from speaker johnson. the first time we're going to see him, hear him, lay out what he wants to do to avert this government shutdown. this to teared cpr that would get us through into the new year, i believe into february. what are your thoughts on this? i want to be clear, obviously, we've got the text of what he the plans layout. this is our reporting indicating this is what he wants to do. >> yasmin, thanks so much for having me on. as your colleague laid out, we keep on hearing these proposals coming from the republican side that shut down some agencies, open, others and more chaos. your colleague said, democrats prefer a clean cr. it shouldn't be a partisan issue one way or the other. this isn't just a simple policy disagreement. a clean sergeants is, let's not hurt the american people. let's not damage our air traffic control, it's not damaged our economy. if there isn't a budget agreement, with the senate being run by the democrats, the house being run by the republicans, let's just not cause intentional damage. that's the place that progressive democrats like myself or. of course, there are progressive things they would like to get out of the cr. instead, i and so many others, are just saying, let's not shut down the just keep working together, and unfortunately, it is those hard right republicans who are trying to cause the admission. these lettered started on the way of saying, let's shut down some essential government services for people. here and there. it's that kind of chaos and damage that they're trying to use, essentially, in their quest to earn president biden politically, even if they're throwing the american people under the bus in the process. >> he had to pull two spending bills in the last minute this week. i'm wondering even with all what you said, even if he has the votes to get this across with his own caucus. knowing how senate democrats feel about this as well. >> well, i'm a new freshman democrat in congress. and this is become the new normal for us, it's coming for late night votes. we there aren't the votes. things fall apart. it's become clear, the republicans aren't interested in the house, in governing. they are interested in getting their news clips, interested in trying to help elect president trump, even as trump says the outrageous things you heard in the earlier segments. they don't have the capacity to govern. they don't have the responsibility, it doesn't seem like the will to govern. and make those sorts of hard choices. the least we can do is say, okay, if you guys aren't ready to govern. let's just not hurt the american people by having a shutdown, government servant services people will. and i've seen turn into texas in my district. military city usa. we're talking about hundreds of thousands of active military having to work without pay. that's what they are starting to threaten us with. they are not interested in helping make things better. in fact, chaos is the point for so many of them. >> i want to talk and pivot to israel. we were just listening to prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and along with his defense minister as well. thematically, one of the big things that came out of it, he said, now, he's been waffling on this back and forth. he's changed his mind a couple of times. now saying, israel will indefinitely provide security for gaza after this war is over. when the end comes. none of us really know. you, alongside 13 other democrats, have called for a cease-fire. in gaza. what do you make of this plan from the prime minister to provide security for gaza indefinitely, knowing the history of the region. and also, these intermittent humanitarian pauses they have allowed. so far refusing any type of cease-fire. >> so many of us in the congress or talking with constituents in our community as so many people are dying and being killed in gaza we want to see hostages return we want to see hamas stopped. but the idea of continued and indefinite war, and continued an indefinite occupation, is something that doesn't actually provide real safety to us. for those of us that grew up in the bush era, seeing how occupation of afghanistan and iraq did in fact make us safer. we can see that it's not targeted operations. i hope we see the hostages returned, doesn't seem to be much progress on that. instead finding a way that the global community can come together, stop the killing, get the hostages returned and create long term peace and sovereignty for both palestinians and israelis alike. it has to be the solution. permanent military occupation has not worked to this point. and we should try to find a way to not continue to go backwards amidst the bloodshed. >> i know there's been a lot of fractures within your party as well, over this particular issue, there is the center of your colleague congresswoman rashida tlaib. the only palestinian congresswoman congress person i should say in the house, also reports that you had a confrontation with representative josheime over remarks made du a conference meeting allegedly. can you walk us through what happened there? >> yeah, this was a private democratic meeting, private caucus meeting and i hate to speak ill of anyone. but tensions were high. a member of congress was standing upright policing, we need to bring our muslim constituents alongside our jewish constituents and warning after these tariffs attacks. by hamas. and she said she wanted to to try to make some spaces comfortable for muslim clerics in her community to be able to join. comment was made saying, that those muslim community members weren't coming because they felt guilty or. they were all guilty. i think that that was said by my colleague in a moment of intense feeling. and i think it was a terrible thing to say. i had the conversation with them. unfortunately, of course, those comments were leaked. it does give you a sense of the way that we are really humans in congress. we're trying to wrestle with these questions. we have to put some of those very intense disagreements, not just aside, but to look at them and say how are we feeling? how can we work together? how can we find common ground? even if our tactics may be different. how do we figure out how to reduce the killing? had we figured out a reduced that? death? how do we reduce antisemitism and islamophobia both in this moment? so, in a moment where i was upset another upset i think we saw some of our own humanity on display, some people at home feel. i know you've reported some of these fractures, but i think all of those fractures are coming from us honestly trying to figure out how to make things better and difficult time. >> congressman greg casar, thank you so much appreciated. >> thanks a bunch. >> i just mentioned with the congressman, we're back in 60 seconds with more on this breaking news that we got from prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who says israel will take control of security in gaza, quote, indefinitely. we're gonna go live to israel for the very latest on that. we'll be right back. 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it did not seem initially during the initial days of this war, that israel had much of a plan. now we're hearing of course from the prime minister, that israel will retain security control of gaza indefinitely. this is happened before. it did not work. i'm wondering in reaction that you're getting, i know it's just happening and also, what more he is saying in sharing in this conference? especially when it comes to, this these hostages, their safety and their potential release. >> yeah, well, the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu doubling down on his assertion that he made at the beginning of the week, that israel mate will maintain overall security control of gaza. and this press conference, clarifying saying islamic -- the idf or control the gaza strip as long as necessary. it will never agree to give up on security control under no circumstances. whatsoever. when he said this early in the week, it raised a lot of eyebrows here in the region. many leaders very concerned that this war is a pretext for israel to go in and re-occupy gaza. something that u.s. officials say they are vehemently against, calling for a political solution on the ground. something in which the palestinians would be able to determine their own political future although the u.s. secretary of state, antony blinken did acknowledge that there may need to be a transition period prior to that. the question of senior palestinians that i've been talking to here is that if you have political control, you also need security control. security control amounts to reoccupation of the gaza strip. also, in this press conference just happening now, the prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that he's going to continue with this war full force. full power. he declared that hamas lost its grip over the gaza strip, it has no place to hide, hamas is doomed to death. he also had a warning for hezbollah in the northern front do not make the mistake to enter the war. he also addressed the hostages, although he had no update, no concrete update there. we know that hostage negotiations are going on, mediated by qatar. but he said there will be no cease-fire until the hostages returned, and at the hostages remain at the forefront of the israeli effort in this war. he said that when there's something concrete, then he will update the families. i was just at a rally, just a short while ago, thousands of israelis here in tel aviv railing against the lack of information, wanting to know where their loved ones are all 239 that were kidnapped by hamas on october 7th and brought into gaza. they are complaining that they have had no proof of life. there is a concern that as this war continues and rages on, hostage lives could be lost in the process. yasmin? >> any indication, erin, that he mentioned an extension of these humanitarian pauses longer humanitarian pauses days instead of hours? >> well, he was reiterating his position that there will be no cease-fire until all hostages are released. so far, with the israelis have agreed to at the behest of the united states or these so-called tactical pauses. the small windows small windows for palestinians to be able to evacuate from the northern part of the gaza strip to the southern part of the gaza strip. they have agreed, at the behest of the united states, to expand that two and an additional corridor along the coastline. but humanitarian community is absolutely outrageous. seeing this is not enough. ahead of the ioc saying, that other berreman, about what is necessary here is that five-day pause in the fighting to facilitate not only more palestinians ability to get to areas of safety but also to get humanitarian supplies into the gaza strip. that's necessary to avert humanitarian catastrophe. what we're hearing from the israeli prime minister's resolve to continue on with the current course full power amidst growing cries from the international community including even the french president, that what we're seeing the violence that we're seeing there in gaza in the words of a mini macron, is not justified. it appears that this point based on what we just heard, that the israeli government is continuing with its plan full force. >> digging. in i don't to be clear before that you go, i understood the rate. essentially the israeli prime minister said they will continue indefinitely to control the security in gaza. and they will never give up control of security in gaza. is that accurate? >> yeah, that is accurate, the notes i have here, he will never agree to give up on security control, quote, under no circumstances whatsoever. again, the israeli prime minister doubling down on his assertion from earlier in the week that israel intends to maintain security control over the gaza strip. >> that is unbelievable. erin mclaughlin, thank you for covering all that for us. we have much more ahead, we'll be right back. be right back. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and the majority of people experienced long-lasting remission at one year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn's disease. ♪ now's the time to ask your gastroenterologist how you can take control of your crohn's with skyrizi. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're building a better postal service. for more on-time deliveries. and easier, affordable ways to ship. so you can deliver even more holiday joy. the united states postal service. delivering for america. 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