their circumstances in lynchburg prison, they got somec good news. a new lawyer who wanted to try to reopen their case. >> it is no wonder orzo, the cat, came over to help. i don't think this was photobombing by a cat. i think this was encouragement n by cat. i think this was get it right, maddow. spit it out, you can do it. spit it out. i'm the times are you going to restart this sentence? thanks to kelsey and the rest of the podcast team. and most definitely, orzo, the producer cat. episode three of ultra was finally spat out by me. na it is available now for free wherever you get your podcasts, eight episodes altogether. this is three. dc it is a banger episode if i don't say so myself. you can take it for me or you can take it from producer cat orzo, who is a very, very good boy. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> at evening, rachel. i just experienced your description of that cat story the same way that all of our listeners on serious radio experienced it, which is to say , which is to say with no visual whatsoever, it was is i was driving down the 405 in l.a. on my way home from work in the studio or something. and it is good, i think for us to have that serious radio experienceus every once in a while. >> i started off the show with a visual thing, too. showing you this weird thing with vampire teeth and fake fire and people breaking windows with their heads. so if you stick with me for the hour, there has been a lot of visual description things that you can see that were very important. >> usually found the serious radio version is more than enough for almost everything that we do here. but i do think there's a bunch k of people in america right now who are driving home with it on and as soon as they get home they're going to get that tv on or somehow find the video of in rachel and the cat. >> my handle on threads is maddow maddow, my last name twice, and i posted that clip of orzo on threads. it is reason enough to join threads of you haven't already, particularly if you're still a refugee from twitter. you can meet orzo there. >> all right, and rachel, i will see you thursday night? we are going to watch tv together. >> yeah. we will listen, too. thanks, lawrence. >> thanks, rachel. i don't appreciate your town . that is what donald trump's favorite judge and later said, elise cannon, who said today to one of the prosecutors on special prosecutor jack smith's teamor, in the case of united states of america versus donald j trump in which donald trump is criminally charged with violations of the espionage act and onillegal possession of ga classified documents. i don't appreciate your tone. we will hear more about that tone from allen class feld, who was in the courtroom in florida today and we will get andrew wiseman and joyce vance is perspective on that tone as former federal prosecutors themselves. i don't appreciate your tone. it was, in its way, the courtroom equivalent of nevertheless, she persisted. >> it has been a long, uphill struggle to keep alive the vital legislation that protects the most fundamental right to vote. a person who has exhibited so much hostility to the enforcement of those laws. >> the senator is reminded thatt it is a violation of rule 19 of the standing rules of the senate to impute to another senator or senators any conducta or motive unworthy or becoming of a senator. >> mr. president, i don't think i quite understand. i am reading a letter from ea coretta scott king to the judiciary committee from 1986 that was admitted into the record. i am simply reading what she wrote about what the nomination of jeff sessions to be a federal court judge meant, and what it would mean in history for her. >> senator warren was giving a lengthy speech. she had appeared to violate the rule. she was warned. she was given an explanation. nevertheless, she persisted. >> and so, she continues to persist. here she is, persisting today in wisconsin. >> if donald trump takes the white house, if republicans get control of congress, they are coming for abortion everywhere. they are coming for contraception everywhere. they are coming for ivf everywhere. so when we go to the polls on november 5th, you are fighting for wisconsin, by fighting for joe biden and kamala harris. >> it has been exactly 2 years to the day since the united states supreme court overturned roe versus wade and unleashed new abortion bans in 21 states. >> i want to thank the six justices, chief justice jenna roberts, clarence thomas, samuel alito, brett kavanaugh, amy coney barrett, and neil corset. incredible people, for having the courage to allow this long-term hard-fought battle to finally end. >> but the battle has not ended and will not end. republicans want more. >> it is absolutely critical as we look at this particular l election cycle to remember who c it was that put pro-life and conservative judges on the district courts. on the circuit courts. and nominated three conservative justice to the united states supreme court that, after 50 years of fighting , we were able to overturn roe v wade. that president was donald j trump. >> today, the biden-harris campaign released this. >> i was at 11 weeks when i had a miscarriage. the pain that i was feeling was excruciating. i was turned away from two emergency rooms. that was a direct result of ec donald trump overturning roe v wade. he is now convicted felon trump thinks he should not be held accountable for his own ld criminal actions. but he will let women and doctors be punished. we want to support someone that does have our best interest at heart and that is why i'm so adamant about supporting president biden. >> i am joe biden and i approve of this message. >> adley developed suffered beingel raped by her step father. at the age of 12, she wanted an abortion and had a miscarriage before an abortion was scheduled. she joined the discussion on morning joe this morning. >> women today, if they are walking in the shoes that i was in, which was pregnancy from rape. they don't have a lock of options and a lot of state. s they at risk of having no options after the election. that is very terrifying. and still, for forever be that little girl and that is really who i do this for and knowing that i was in that position and the only thing that allowed me to hold onto hope were the words you have options. the first things i heard after i looked at a positive pregnancy test at 12 years old. >> now you are speaking out because a trump win would mean what for little girls in the situation you were in? >> it would mean the unimaginable. being that they have no options, not even women and girls but women with nonviable pregnancies. wanted pregnancies that are nonviable that are killing these women. they, there will be no traveling to another state. there will be no options based on where you live. it will just be one rule for everybody and that will be no abortions and that is a very, very dangerous world for women. not only young girls but all women. >> meeting after our discussion tonight is democratic senator, elizabeth warren of na massachusetts. a member of the senate finance committee. she is a biden-harris campaign national advisory board committee member and she is running for re-election to the united states senate in massachusetts. senator, thank you very much for joining us on this important night. what have we learned in the twon years since we lost roe versus wade? >> we have learned that the impact of overturning roe g versus wade is far bigger than any thing anyone imagined at this moment two years ago. so two years ago, we were talking about what this would mean for women who wouldn't have access to abortion, women who wanted to terminate a pregnancy. the thing about the stories we have heard since then, as 10- year-old girls have come forward, 12-year-old girls, 15- year-olds, 30-year-olds who 3 have been raped. as we heard more from people who have wanted pregnancies but are miscarrying, who have something that has gone terribly wrong in that pregnancy. the people who need access to ivf in order to have a family. you are hearing the stories of our sisters, our cousins, our friends, the people we went to school with. we are hearing the stories from ourselves about what it means for an extremist group to drive access to abortion, to contraception, to ivf out of the american medical system. we are learning what it means person by person across this country. and i've got to tell you, i am out here in wisconsin right now. and people are fired up to fight back. >> what would it take to legislate roe versus wade, pass it as federal legislation and get it signed into law? >> oh, i love this question because we are close. so what it will take is first and foremost, we have got to , have joe biden and kamala harris in the white house. if we want to preserve access to abortion, then we have got to have joe and, laura. we also have a majority in the united states house of te representatives. we think we are close, we think we can do this but it means we have got to be in that fight. and the third one is, we have to have a majority in the senate. we have got to johave 50 democrats who are willing to set aside the filibuster and say, your vote matters. we are going to depend on democracy and we are going to make roe versus wade law of the land. understand this, lawrence. we are so close. come november, if we can get those three parts. i think of it as a trifecta, we can make roe versus wade law of the land. not just in blue states, not just in purple state, but all across this nation. >> i have observed on this program that if there is another trump presidency, it seems to me he would have very difficulty in getting clarence thomas's resignation from the supreme court he could go into a happy, well-funded retirement. donald trump could replace clarence thomas with a 40-year- old judge, possibly judge cannon in florida, to conserve another 40 years on the supreme court. so it is entirely possible that another 40 years of rulings by the supreme court could be at stake in this presidential election. >> absolutely. and understand, that is roe, that is contraception, that is ivf. but it is so much more. it is about voting rights in this country. it is about the ability to join a union. it is about our climate. it is about money and politics. it is about corporate power. it is about a supreme court that, in the past few years, has just jumped the curbs, a supreme court that has put itself above the constitution, has put itself above democracy itself and is driving an extremist agenda. it is absolutely critical that we re-elect joe biden and we kamala harris. and knows mall part because they will be the ones to appoint the next round of supreme court justices. people who will bring some balance back to the court, who will restore some credibility in that court. ed and who will make sure that we understand we are a nation of laws, supreme court has a role to play, absolutely. but so does congress and so s does the president of the united states joe biden and ed kamala harris, they are the people whose strength and support in our democracy. and that includes taking this extremist supreme court, making sure that we have got better h people in that court and, in my view, expanding the court as needed if this court is going to continue to try to run roughshod over our democracy. >> as a former harvard law school professor, were, of course, you're talking about the work of the supreme court all the time, in class, as you have seen the work of the supreme court for the last two years and prior in your time in the senate, what has to happen to this court going forward? >> look, what has happened on this court, most recently, is is truly deeply shocking. this is a court that no longer feels bound by law. it is also a court whose, some of its members, just feel like they don't have any ethical ey constraints, that they can takeo money from interested parties that they don't even have to t disclose what is going on. we need to do a couple of gs in congress. the first thing that we need to do is we need to put ethical d rules in place that bind the supreme court. we have constitutional authority to do that. em we should do it my view also is that it is time to expand the supreme court. the constitution provides for that. p it has happened seven times in the past. we have supreme court that is way out of balance. supreme court that has become an extremist support court, that no longer limits itself to stare decisis. it no longer limits itself to the constitution itself and to the power to be exercised by congress and by the president of the united states. we need to save our democracy, and part of saving our democracy is making sure that this extremist supreme court does not destroy it. >> senator elizabeth warren, thank you very much for an starting off our discussions tonight. >> thank you. coming up, maryland senate candidate, angela walt brooks, who is with vice president harris today in maryland. >> so it comes down to this. donald trump thinks that the do government is in a better position to tell women what is in their best interest than women ought to know for themselves. but joe biden and i trust women. ♪♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. ♪♪ the cockroach. resilient creatures. where there is one, others aren't far behind. well that's horrifying. always scavenging... ortho home defense max indoor insect barrier. one application kills and prevents bugs for 365 days. nature is wild. your home doesn't have to be. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. 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do we trust women? do we believe in freedom? do we believe in the promise of america? are we ready to fight for it? and when we fight we win! god bless you, and god bless america. joining us now is a democratic nominee for senate in maryland, angela also bricks. see attended vice president kamala harris's's speech today. thank you very much for joining us tonight. this is a very important stake for senate campaigns. maryland could go either way. running against larry hogan who i assumed was a pro-choice republican. is that as clear as i assumed it to be? >> absolute not. what we have learned, first of all, that record is clear, he actually vetoed an important abortion care legislation that would expand abortion care in the state of maryland. that veto was overridden by the it is later and he withheld funding until the current governor came into office so he is a very clear record just this year, as he entered this race, he came in and said i understand that the issue around abortion care, because it is a very emotional issue for women. as well, when he was process whether or not he would vote to codify and federal law a woman's right to choose, he refused to speculate about that. >> that is the part that surprised me. i thought he was just a roe versus wade guy. but the democratic party of maryland has assembled his responses to this. let's take a look at this, this was all new to me, hearing him answer it this way. let's listen to this. >> would you vote for legislation that would guarantee the right to an abortion? >> i think that is an issue we will have to address. >> surely you have thought about it. >> i'm not going to speculate on any issue, on any piece of legislation that has never been written. >> there's a much longer version of it here, too. where he goes on and it just keeps going like that. in circles, where clearly he has thought about it and now he has thought about it enough that he is afraid to talk about it. >> yeah, you know what? the reality is, this is a very, very serious issue. we know that in maryland, maryland has now become the place that mitch mcconnell has selected as a place that he believes that republicans have the best chance of flipping the senate into republican hands led by donald trump. and he said that larry hogan was the get of the year, that he couldn't believe his luck in selecting larry hogan as the person he believed would give the republicans the best chance in gaining control and thereby, later on, putting a ban in place. so we know that this is an issue that is so serious khmer lenders have a whole different vision. they are pro-choice. i believe that marylanders will know the difference between larry hogan as governor and senator and the 51st vote is what this is about. and